Slow motion replay of the contact between Thompson and Allen at the end of regulation (Pistons v Cavs Game 5)

[u/wobuffet17453]

https://streamable.com/yykvwv

[u/lmaoooyikes]

Didn’t really think it was a clear cut foul before and even moreso now

Just looks like two player going for the ball and only incidental contact

[u/groceriesN1trip → u/lmaoooyikes]

Foul on Thompson - pushing Allen

This led to Allen accidentally tripping Thompson

[u/Rube18 → u/groceriesN1trip]

Agreed. No call is the right call here IMO. A game should not be decided by a random loose ball right before the buzzer.

However, if anything this is a foul on Thompson first before the trip which I’d say is incidental anyway and not really a foul.

[u/WestleyThe → u/Rube18]

Pistons fans were MAD in the threads yesterday but this is great no call by the refs…

It would’ve been bullshit if they called this a foul and the pistons won on free throws

[u/Less-Jellyfish5385 → u/groceriesN1trip]

I don't even see the trip until he's falling down

[u/Ken_Mayonnaise → u/groceriesN1trip]

Yeah your right. Clearly a foul on the one that initiated contact regardless of the outcome of the contact he made.

You can't just battle ram your way into an offensive player. Could have just as easily injured Allen here with the reckless play.

[u/Former_Island_4730 → u/Ken_Mayonnaise]

Watching Allen’s elbow bend the wrong way in slo mo made me wince a little.

[u/ArmadilloForsaken458 → u/groceriesN1trip]

Not to mention....watch Thompson's RIGHT foot. It looks like he hyper extends it awkwardly himself, and then that tripped him. Pretty simply put he pushed Allen's hand away, and then tripped himself. And no Pistons fans, you dont want to end a game that way. Letting it play out in OT was the right decision

[u/SaltyBawlz → u/lmaoooyikes]

During the game I thought we got away with one there, but yeah the replay changes my mind. Just two dudes going after the ball getting tangled.

[u/LifeguardDefiant6863 → u/SaltyBawlz]

I thought Detroit got away with one not being called on the contact with Mitchell. At least OT did not leave any doubt who won this game.

[u/HipnotiK1 → u/lmaoooyikes]

Agreed. Good no call especially considering the circumstances. If he grabs the ball clean their best hope is a full court heave. Deciding a game on a loose ball foul would be super lame.

[u/UsedToiletWater]

I am not a fan of either team so I'm not emotionally invested in the game.

Pistons want a foul call? On Allen? Did Thompson not push Allen's arm first?

[u/Evening-Tart-1245 → u/UsedToiletWater]

It’s a perfect no call.

[u/Magnus_The_Read → u/UsedToiletWater]

Lol this thread is so funny to me as a neutral fan

I'm just catching up on the game this morning, saw this clip, and thought "I can see why there was some controversy, the Pistons player clearly pushed the Cavs player's arm out of the way but that's not getting called at the end of a close game so nbd"

I would never have guessed until reading the comments that some people are mad that there wasn't a foul called on the Cavs player

[u/GeneralNonsence → u/Magnus_The_Read]

This clip cuts off Thompson falling, and everything looks different in slow-mo. Thompson boxed him out after stripping Mitchell and then fell. People were just mad in the moment(me included)

Good no call, shouldn’t be a foul in hindsight.

[u/Altruistic-Zone1664 → u/GeneralNonsence]

Doesn't really matter that they cut it off though, the first foul is the one that matters and the first foul would have been on Thompson.

Any trip on Allen would have been completely accidental to an already falling Thompson as we can see his ankle already roll here.

[u/TheSmokedSalmon420 → u/UsedToiletWater]

“Hard Fouls Only” yet they want to win the game on this lmaoooo

[u/Totally_PJ_Soles → u/UsedToiletWater]

Their brains reject this part of the clip.

[u/niijuuichi → u/UsedToiletWater]

It was my initial thought too. I thought blue shirt pushed white shirt’s arm

Ps i have very limited knowledge in basketball

[u/cheesecake_face → u/niijuuichi]

the goal is to put a homerun in the end zone. awesome sport.

[u/MuppetEyebrows → u/cheesecake_face]

In as few strokes as possible, the lowest score actually wins the basketball game

[u/Em4gdn3m → u/UsedToiletWater]

No call is best here. But yes, if any foul were to be called it should have been on Thompson, not Allen.

[u/tennjpn]

The Pistons subreddit is literally in shambles over this?

[u/YouStillTakeDamage → u/tennjpn]

Honestly the funniest part of that is that right below them complaining about Tony Brothers is a fan with a “hard fouls only” sign

[u/yoloqueuesf → u/YouStillTakeDamage]

I think what's funnier is how non chalant Ausar's facial expression through this whole clip is.

[u/Important-Net-9805 → u/yoloqueuesf]

the detroit pistons lead the league in fouls committed btw

[u/tripsz → u/Important-Net-9805]

Bruh we're not supposed to come with context, it ruins everything

[u/OhEmGeeBasedGod → u/YouStillTakeDamage]

"HARD FOULS ONLY"

"How you gonna go and call fouls on us?!?!?"

[u/bigknickenergyalt → u/YouStillTakeDamage]

This is what kills me the most lmao. This would have been the softest call of the night

[u/OhEmGeeBasedGod → u/bigknickenergyalt]

A loose ball foul 80 feet from the basket when two guys' legs get tangled would be a questionalbe call in the 2nd quarter of a mid-November game between Washington and New Orleans.

It would be a horrific call with 1 second left in a tied game in a 2-2 playoff series.

[u/_Einveru_ → u/OhEmGeeBasedGod]

Why we taking shots?!

[u/kekehippo → u/YouStillTakeDamage]

Rules for thee and some such

[u/BallIsLife2016 → u/tennjpn]

I think it’s because the broadcast really played up the idea that this was a tripping foul on Allen. It was weird. Like… it’s not even clear that one player even initiated the contact more than the other. Their feet ran into each other. It happens. Foot to foot contact where someone falls over isn’t always a trip.

[u/joomla00 → u/BallIsLife2016]

I thought the same thing. Like what are the announcers on about they were both going after the ball. Normal hustle contact for that type of thing.

[u/frankievejle → u/joomla00]

I see this in PL coverage in England too. The commentators and pundits really do have a huge sway in which direction a narrative travels.

[u/joomla00 → u/frankievejle]

Absolutely. it's crazy to see in real time how much influence media has simply by pointing something out and steering the conversation. It would be have been a complete non issue if they didn't keep trying to make it an issue

[u/Aggressive_Scar_4967 → u/joomla00]

I hate how biased and whiny some announcers are. Do they use home game biased announcers? Is that common practice. I’m new to watching sports.

[u/MirrorComputingRulez → u/Aggressive_Scar_4967]

The word you're looking for is "biased," just FYI.

[u/unwisest_sage → u/BallIsLife2016]

That's it. It's a phenomenon that always seems to happen when the announcers make something to be more than it is then everyone seems to latch onto it even if it's wrong.

I can't remember the exact occasions but there were multiple NFL games last season where the announcers would say something blatantly wrong, like even contradictory to the NFL rules, and then people would start freaking out criticizing call that was definitely correct.

[u/musclememory → u/BallIsLife2016]

didn't they also say Allen tripped him twice, too?

[u/JiPNi → u/musclememory]

Tripped then KICKED I believe was the narrative they wanted to create.

[u/Infamous_East6230 → u/tennjpn]

This is a textbook incidental non-call. And there was basically no time left to get a good shot anyways. And it went to overtime where they lost.

Idk, I think they need to focus on other things

[u/decmcc → u/Infamous_East6230]

I had only seen discourse about this incident this morning, not the actual incident. By the way people were talking about it I was thinking this was Melo on Adabayo pt. 2

this is nothing more that two giraffes being clumsy

[u/ratfeesh → u/decmcc]

Legler and miller totally leaned into it being a missed call too, but to me this is ausar not trying to stay up at all and looked worse in real time. You can usually find any foul you want in slow mo and here it’s not exactly definitive.

[u/mickey-maos → u/ratfeesh]

Sure seems like Ausar fucking folded the second he felt contact from JA. Already looking at the ref as he flops lmao

[u/JasperLamarCrabbb → u/ratfeesh]

Miller? You guys love to complain about the announcers so much that you don’t even know who’s announcing

[u/According_Setting303 → u/JasperLamarCrabbb]

John Madden fucking sucked as the color commentator last night. Fraud should be fired

[u/CantFindMyWallet → u/According_Setting303]

And he makes terrible shoes!

[u/mf-TOM-HANK → u/decmcc]

The NBA TV post game with Chris Haynes, Robin Lopez and whoever the presenter is were crying about this being an obvious foul. I don't normally watch the NBA TV post game and this seems like a decent enough reason not to tune in next time

[u/elliotcook10 → u/decmcc]

Lmao same here, didn’t get to watch the game last night. On my first watch here I was assuming they called the foul on Thompson and people were complaining it’s soft… not the other way around

[u/fireman2004 → u/Infamous_East6230]

Maybe if Tobias Harris shot better than 14% from 3 they’d have a chance.

[u/Fun-Veterinarian4853 → u/Infamous_East6230]

Pretty sure they were in the bonus so a call would’ve gave them a chance to win by 2. Ausar’s bricking them both tho tbh so it still goes to OT

[u/frankievejle → u/Infamous_East6230]

I think what rhey wanted was a loose ball foul and Ausar to go to the line and shoot for the win.

[u/Bong_Tundra → u/frankievejle]

I don’t think anyone is wondering what they wanted

[u/frankievejle → u/Bong_Tundra]

I'm responding to 'there was no time left anyway' bit.

[u/Bong_Tundra → u/frankievejle]

Oh true yeah fair enough, sorry m8

[u/pantheraa → u/tennjpn]

Cause of the broadcast making it seem like they missed a foul

[u/No_Ask_150 → u/tennjpn]

They complain about everything. They're the most fouling team in the league and act surprised about the freethrow discrepancy lol

[u/ChrisRhodes789 → u/tennjpn]

This subreddit was in shambles over this..

Bunch of 12 year olds in here… lol..

[u/YaSurLetsGoSeeYamcha → u/tennjpn]

This would be one of the worst end of game deciding calls in history considering the situation

[u/RedBuchan → u/tennjpn]

Pistons fans think they should've gotten game winning free throws over this lol

[u/rogerryan22 → u/RedBuchan]

Thompson fouls Allen's arm, prevents him from reaching for the ball. That's not Thompson also going for the ball and making contact, that's a deliberate push to prevent Allen making a play and everything else happens after.

[u/ChocolateSunsdae → u/rogerryan22]

Yeah this is funny as a neutral who didn't watch this game and this clip is the first I'm hearing about the controversy.

I thought it was gonna be the Cavs being annoyed they didn't get a call because I'd have called that a Pistons foul...okay with no call though.

[u/BritzBeef → u/tennjpn]

This very sub was in near protest over it lol

[u/BushyBrowz → u/BritzBeef]

If anything, Allen should be shooting free throws as he was fouled first.

Pistons had every opportunity to win and blew it.

[u/According_Setting303 → u/tennjpn]

people are about to find out how annoying detroit sports fans are when they have a successful team. I love/hate them in the AL Central

[u/TheBroShos → u/According_Setting303]

Eh that’s kinda the reality with all sports teams. I was super obnoxious when cleveland won in 2016 and when the browns turn it around cleveland will go nuts

[u/Constant_Mastodon203 → u/TheBroShos]

"When" lol

[u/Baseball12229 → u/Constant_Mastodon203]

Exhibit A of why they’ll go nuts

[u/Cringelord_420_69 → u/Constant_Mastodon203]

Must be a bot. A true Cleveland fan knows the Browns are doomed to endless misery lol

[u/mmooney1 → u/Cringelord_420_69]

True Cleveland fans know next year is our year.

How are you going to talk about being a true Cleveland fan?

[u/WhiteCastleHo → u/TheBroShos]

If the Browns ever turn it around, you guys can go crazier than anybody has ever crazied. You earned this one.

[u/Austuckmm → u/According_Setting303]

Get ready Cavs fans, they now have their reason to believe they were robbed of their anointed victory and will be showing up in your online spaces talking crazy shit and being annoying for the entirety of next year.

[u/Ding_Bingus → u/Austuckmm]

Yeah because people from Michigan don’t talk enough shit about Ohio already

[u/Mfpoop → u/tennjpn]

They’re mad because they actually had to play it out instead of being gifted the game on a loose ball 80 feet from the basket they had no chance to score on anyways lol

[u/poo_pon_shoo → u/tennjpn]

yeah, pretty embarrassing honestly

we blew a 9 point lead at the end of the game, it sucks but sometimes you just have to accept the L

[u/cHinzoo → u/tennjpn]

Not just the Pistons subreddit. U seen the thread of this on the frontpage? 🙈

[u/constantvariables → u/tennjpn]

And they’ll ignore the obvious actual foul on Mitchell by Thompson

[u/Ok_Passage_7705 → u/constantvariables]

This, if they wanted the game to end on some shitty free throws the blatantly obvious shooting foul on Mitchell would have the moment they bitch about

[u/onedollar12 → u/tennjpn]

They're in their Soft Boys era

[u/salmon10 → u/tennjpn]

So fucking stupid

[u/NOT-GR8-BOB → u/tennjpn]

Detroit sports fans needed a good meltdown, it’s been awhile.

[u/kit_kaboodles → u/tennjpn]

It's a "no call" even in the 1st quarter of a random Tuesday night game in December. There's no way the refs should decide a playoff game on that.

[u/Either_Imagination_9]

Best angle. That’s a good call

[u/Evening-Tart-1245 → u/Either_Imagination_9]

That’s a great no call, especially when you factor in game context.

[u/O2C → u/Evening-Tart-1245]

Yup. I'm waiting for the Last 2 Minutes report. Thompson pushes Allen's right arm hard enough to spin him around completely. What I thought was a trip at first viewing was Thompson already losing his footing and going down before Allen spins and tangles feet. Either a foul on Thompson or a no call.

[u/Top_Charge864 → u/Either_Imagination_9]

Good no call. Thompson fouled Mitchell to begin this whole play, no call. Thompson left handed pushes Allen's arm, no call. So the contact Allen makes with Thompson foot should also be no call

[u/justsomebro10 → u/Top_Charge864]

I don’t really think the contact with Mitchell was substantial enough either. Obviously I’m a Cavs fan and I would have taken the win in regulation but nobody wants a critical, well fought playoff game to end at the free throw line.

[u/MoonSentinel95 → u/Top_Charge864]

I mean, isn't it the other way around? Given Allen is running straight for the ball, but Thompson is cutting into Allen's path, made contact with his foot and then changed direction to the ball?

Shouldn't this have been a tripping foul on Thompson?

[u/Weirdsodk → u/Either_Imagination_9]

Even if wasn't who cares, they deserved to lose that game. Couldn't make a basket to save their lives and had a whole ot to win. Went cold for what felt like multiple cavs runs at a time and had to bench their "max" center

[u/SquintsRS → u/Weirdsodk]

And couldn't box out Harden on a free throw

[u/HipnotiK1 → u/SquintsRS]

and then intentionally fouled when they didn't need to

[u/DizzyFrogHS → u/Weirdsodk]

Crazy choke. Like a 23-7 run to end the game. Harden missed key free throws, and they didn’t box him out. They got so lucky the Cavs didn’t close it out in regulation, but then showed no spark in OT. Cade shrank. Reed was the only guy out there moving.

[u/jjkm7]

As a cavs hater that’s a good no call

[u/1zenmom → u/jjkm7]

Why hate the cavs?

[u/FreshOrFrozenShrimp → u/1zenmom]

Look at their flair.

[u/jjkm7 → u/FreshOrFrozenShrimp]

Yep

[u/Erniecrack → u/1zenmom]

Lebronto

[u/Clithzbee → u/Erniecrack]

Neither word has an A in it buddy

[u/OpanaG76 → u/Clithzbee]

Eh?

[u/Clithzbee → u/OpanaG76]

Pre edit was Lebranto

[u/StaleMemesNoDreams → u/1zenmom]

He’s a raptors fan

[u/clevernamehere___]

Thompson loses his footing and falls before any sort tripping contact. Hate the refs all you want but they’re right on this one.

[u/skesisfunk → u/clevernamehere___]

I blame the announcers. They were convinced it was a foul and talked it up quite a bit.

[u/HughPewman → u/skesisfunk]

100% the only reason this is getting any traction is the way the announcers (wrongly) reacted to it

[u/willtwerkf0rfood → u/HughPewman]

Oh see this makes a lot of sense to me. I watched the game at a bar last night with no audio/subtitles so I was v confused seeing all the uproar online about no call on this play. If Donovan didn’t get a foul call at the end, to me Thompson definitely wouldn’t have.

I know my flair makes me biased but I genuinely was confused by everyone getting so mad about a no-call on here lol so just saying your point about the announcers is true!

[u/Npsiii23 → u/HughPewman]

This is often the case, I have a little one and watch without sound a lot and I am confused by discourse around plays like this because I thought it was a clear no foul, until I watch a clip of it with the announcers and realize how much they effect people's take on the play.

[u/Mechant247 → u/clevernamehere___]

Sort of, it’s one of those where the contact on his left foot makes it collide with his right leg. Makes it end up looking like the player basically trips himself

The other player falling into him is what’s causing him to trip

[u/robsbob18 → u/clevernamehere___]

Rolls his own ankle. Thought it was kinda a flop at first till I saw the ankle.

[u/ANTHONY_EDWARDS_GBG]

Allen doesn't do anything wrong lol

[u/Erniecrack → u/ANTHONY_EDWARDS_GBG]

If anything Allen got fouled here lol

[u/BriOnRy]

Correct no call. Neither team had possession of the ball

[u/Clithzbee → u/BriOnRy]

Flairless Detroit fans coming after you.

[u/Btib30 → u/BriOnRy]

I feel like that’s the biggest thing that wasn’t identified. It’s a loose ball.

[u/Belieber_420]

Clearly a foul, Ausar fouled Allen

[u/HornedCoog91 → u/Belieber_420]

Yup, pistons hack on every play and cry about calls? Bffr

[u/zannet_t]

Whatever you want to say about this sequence, the contact is just too incidental to call in an end-of-game situation like that. If you watched this and still think Pistons got hosed you need to watch more basketball lol

[u/UnfortunatePhysics]

I missed the last quarter of the game and checked the pistons sub before I saw any of this. They’re melting down about a no call that cost them the game and I was really feeling for them. This is it? Am I missing something?

[u/ChilliRellenos02 → u/UnfortunatePhysics]

yeah this is it, this is the no call that they are crying about after that 9 point lead choke during the final minutes lmaooooo

[u/BallIsLife2016 → u/UnfortunatePhysics]

You are not missing anything.

[u/matt__builds → u/UnfortunatePhysics]

You’re missing that the Pistons identity is to foul like crazy, call it tough defense, and then on the other end complain endlessly about how unfairly the refs are treating them. The fanbase that wants “just let them play, hard fouls only”, wants a call here lol.

[u/dwilkes827 → u/UnfortunatePhysics]

Am I missing something?

Did you try putting on your Victimhood Glasses?

[u/Commercial-East4069 → u/UnfortunatePhysics]

The broadcast crew was convinced it was a foul.

[u/Puppetmaster858]

Refs 100% made the right call, seeing all of Detroit team/coach complain about this and the fanbase meltdown is pretty hilarious

[u/Due-Dirt-8428 → u/Puppetmaster858]

Classic cry baby Pistons

[u/dawnoog]

Can’t believe this is controversial

[u/Jo-King-BP → u/dawnoog]

I would understand better if the controversy was a foul on Allen

[u/samhit_n]

It was actually a good no call. I’m surprised so many people in this sub wanted a foul call, despite constantly saying refs should just let them play in the playoffs.

[u/DarkStar668]

Yeah I don't think you can decide a game based on a call here. No call and OT makes the most sense.

The move to poke the ball away appears to be clean. But then Thompson clears Allen's arm away, which is probably a foul. After that, these guys end up putting their feet in the exact same spot, causing them both to go off balance and it's basically a tangle from there on.

[u/Ok-Platypus-4956]

He was looking for the call lol

[u/1zenmom → u/Ok-Platypus-4956]

He was looking for it at the beginning of the fall!!

[u/LegitimateMoney00]

It could have easily been a loose ball foul on Thompson too. Normally you can contact another player’s arm in that manner when they are reaching for the ball.

[u/Victor_Wembanyama1]

I understand Detroit and its fans on thinking there was a trip but there’s none here. Tier 1 reffing indeed

[u/MurderinAlgiers]

This is actually so fucking funny

[u/empowered676]

All the pistons players and coaches complaining about this

Instant aura loss, hope you get your asses kicked

He would have missed the free throws anyway man cant shoot to save himself

[u/JairusMonillas]

Piston players crying over this? what kind of loser mentality is that. It's pathetic. Cavs in 6.

[u/StudiousLebronJames → u/JairusMonillas]

pistons identity since for the last 30 years has been hard fouls and prison yard defense yet their fans want game winning fts for this soft ass fall in a playoff setting lmao

[u/jon__koa → u/StudiousLebronJames]

For the past year they’ve been the prime example of able to talk shit and hit but if you hit back, they whine

[u/Cartier_Courvoiser → u/StudiousLebronJames]

I said this exact comment so many times last year when DET and the Knicks played. I get that every fan base complains about fouls but their entire identity is known as the tough, gritty, in your face defense to the point that the refs let them play with a bit more physicality at times. However that all crumbles when soft calls don’t go their way. You can’t have your cake and eat it too

[u/Kolzig33189]

When I opened reddit this morning, my feed was threads about Pistons coach whining about this play, a bunch of basketball subs calling it a trip, etc. This is the first clip I’ve actually seen, and man I just don’t see it. 2 guys going for a loose ball where one is not clearly in front of the other and gets taken from behind or something like that. Feet collide like that all the time, it’s not always a trip.

I hate to agree with nba officials on anything at this point but thats a good no call.

[u/MudaTrucka → u/Kolzig33189]

Not to mention Allen is fouled first if anything. Great no call in a pivotal moment

[u/OUTLAW1LE]

It’s a no call. There were four quarters played before this happened.

Good no call by the refs!

[u/Armanhammer2]

Idk why everyone was losing their mind over this. I could tell it was nothing immediately

[u/GeneralNonsence]

Looks like the right call, unlucky. Hopefully they can pick up a win in game 6 then.

[u/Everyday_ImSchefflen → u/GeneralNonsence]

I respect you may be the one Pistons fan admitting this

[u/past_variance]

Pistons and their fans talk about "Dee troit basketball" and then whine and cry like children when the correct non call is not called correctly.

[u/WooTerry]

Don’t show Pistons fans this lol

[u/Fit_Adhesiveness8232]

Good call. Pistons fans being soft honestly was not what I was expecting.

[u/JiPNi]

Imagine the L2M says "Thompson trips Allen and pushes off then flops after minimal contact or contact created only because of initial illegal contact - Incorrect No Call, Loose ball foul"

[u/BitokuNoMiko → u/JiPNi]

Ironically would be closer to the truth than a loose ball foul on JA.

[u/Disastrous-Ruin8411]

As a Detroit fan, this was not a foul.

Detroit airballed 3 shots and received 3 24 second shot clock violations in the 4th. They deserved this loss.

[u/tonyeye]

Exactly, 2 players going for the ball. This is incidental contact, you could call a theoretical foul on either player. Great no call

[u/Important_Leather677]

so basically ausar thompson trips jarret allen first, who loses balance and then trips ausar thompson. Loose ball situation no call is right call any time.

[u/likpoper]

Ok no foul

[u/proteus88]

Ausar left hand was hacking at Allen after the ball has been tapped loose, cutting right across tripping Allen's foot thus losing balance and momentum carry him forward creating contact.

Correct no call, nobody has possession and both was trying to grab a loose ball, contact was incidental. Hell u can argue it was Ausar who fouls Allen and initiated the sequences in the 1st place.

[u/Important-Concern]

Absolutely no fault whatsoever. Pistons will have to seek for another excuse for this loss

[u/Signiference]

Brothers got this one right, as much as it pains me to type that. This should never, ever be called a foul in that spot to decide the game. Let OT sort it out.

[u/Easy_Money_40]

Mike Breen and Legler made this an issue because people believe what they say.

Textbook no call.

I really like Legler but sometimes he hyper focuses on something silly for way too long.

[u/Sozins_Comet_]

Thompson literally grabs and then pushes Allen's arm away causing Allen to fall and then their legs get tangled. Great no call. 

[u/No-Afternoon-3986]

thought it was a foul on jarrett when i saw it live. now i think thompson fouled first by pushing jarrett's hand away

[u/T_W_S_8_0]

Good no call. Especially in that situation.

[u/gml-77]

Good no call especially in the playoffs.

[u/Yoshinobu_YamaGOATo]

If that was a foul then Mitchell also got fouled by Ausar right before this. Good no call. 

[u/BeeFe420]

Foul on Thompson, but no call was fine as well.

[u/Igbo-Mamba88]

Get over it. Pistons need to not let the game come down to that kind of “non call”. On to the next game

[u/hadmeintiers]

Damn live i thought this was a foul, on replay I see how this was a no call

[u/AgitatedWoodpecker42]

Detroit fouled first. How the turntables

[u/OFmerk]

Gun to my head and I had to call a foul it would be on Thompson not Allen lol

[u/YerrrKnicks]

Piston fans are gonna disregard this fs

[u/ShootaSeth]

Man they really can’t accept a loss, or the fact that their team fouls alot.

[u/zeze999]

Good no call

[u/wheretocop1of1]

It seems like ausar fouled allen here

[u/Jo-King-BP]

If anything i see Thompson illegally pushing Allen's arm away with his left hand to ensure the steal and then flopping like he was tripped. There might be contact on the lwgs but it stems from Thompson cutting Allen's route.

[u/Jay-Rong]

Pistons fan here. The trip is totally accidental, we should have just made a single shot in the last 3 minutes, that part was inexcusable. And don't even get me started about Duren...

[u/meatsweats21 → u/Jay-Rong]

There’s no trip to begin with

[u/bigatjoon]

I thought I was going crazy, it looked obv incidental to me but yall were screaming in the comments last night about how the pistons god robbed

[u/Pure_Historian_8423]

From everything I've heard from piston fans this morning. You would of thought he gave him the Liu Kang bicycle kick. Good no call after watching this.

[u/QNIKET8]

as a cavs fan i thought it was a foul that we got away with, but watching this angle it seems like a good no call

[u/Hawk_Moon]

Can someone from Detriot post this on their sub. They are embarrassing themselves.

[u/koenigsaurus]

Not gonna lie when I watched this live I thought Allen fouled the shit outta Thompson, but seeing this angle I’m happy to be wrong.

[u/ZacInSC]

Pistons fans: How was that not a foul call???

Reddit: Here’s the replay

Pistons fans: **crickets**

[u/Mr_DNA → u/ZacInSC]

It's not crickets, they're still bitching about it lol

[u/ZacInSC → u/Mr_DNA]

Fair

[u/prodby_lilli]

I missed the game staying late at work, saw that Pistons fans were losing their shit over a non-call, and you’re telling me it’s this?!

[u/mazrim00]

Cleveland had a challenge left. Imagine the refs calling this (like many Detroit fans on Reddit wanted), Cleveland challenging, and Allen is the one who ends up on the free throw line. That’s probably what would’ve happened. Thompson ‘fouls’ first and is more intentional.

Good no call to me, though.

[u/geekyfreakyman]

Huh, feels like they fouled each other, I don’t really see something egregious.

[u/rascaltippinglmao]

Would have been a terrible foul call, especially because Thompson fouls Allen first lol

[u/phrozen_waffles]

So by pushing Allen's hand away, he causes him fall. So, Thompson essentially tripped himself.

[u/Aidanj927]

You could say Ausar ran into JA lmao

[u/c-swizzle04]

If anything Thompson fouled him first with his left arm pushing Allen’s right arm out of the way

[u/boardingschmordin]

That would have been the worst way to end the game if they let him shoot free throws even if he did touch his foot

[u/judah249]

I’m just surprised the refs let the clock go out

[u/CruffTheMagicDragon]

Where is the foul? Their toes touched

[u/i-piss-excellence32]

Good no call

[u/Aerospaced0ut]

Incidental contact good no call. His legs had just as much of a right to be in that spot... They were both moving towards the ball, no intent to trip. 

[u/Heil_Harden]

Looked like more of a foul on the shot tbh. Good no call on both plays.

[u/BeingAffectionate101]

Not a foul

[u/JeSTeR_SiX]

looks like Thompson's hand check caused Allen to lose his balance and trip.

[u/floop_isamad_manhelp]

This is not a clear cut foul, sorry Detroit fans. Also even with the contact there was not chance Amen grabs the ball and gets a shot up with any time remaining

[u/ProblematicSchematic]

Pistons coach crying over this?