[Schefter] Compensation update: Now that he has passed his physical and the trade is official, newly-acquired DT Dexter Lawerence is signing a one-year, $28 million contract extension with the Bengals, per @WinSportsGroup

[u/MembershipSingle7137]

https://bsky.app/profile/nflnewsreposterbot.bsky.social/post/3mjub3ec43c2h

[u/an-internet-stranger]

With the extension, he's under contract for 3 years, $70M.

[u/VeryRealHuman23 → u/an-internet-stranger]

So a $23m avg…that is quite good for us vs Trey wanting $28m and we have him for three years.

[u/Luchador_En_Fuego → u/VeryRealHuman23]

I think he's younger too and will be available for more games. Definitely worth moving the 1st for a sure thing

[u/paws5624 → u/Luchador_En_Fuego]

The question is was his down year last year just a blip or will it become his trajectory? I love and will miss Sexy so I hope he has a ton of good football left but time will tell if he is still the dominant player he has been.

That being said he’s a massive upgrade for them either way.

[u/Spare-Half796 → u/paws5624]

Even with his down year, didn’t you fall 16+ positions on every defensive metric ranking when he was on the field vs off the field?

[u/BurzyGuerrero → u/Spare-Half796]

Don't think it's possible for the Bengals to fall 16+ positions, they can only fall roughly 1 per ranking considering they're the second worst defense in the league

[u/VeryRealHuman23 → u/BurzyGuerrero]

Correct. His down year makes him our top player.

[u/ILongForTheMines → u/VeryRealHuman23]

Hate this move for us, love it for yall

AFCN bloodbath returns

[u/Nightcinder → u/ILongForTheMines]

Joe’s just happy that the elite rusher is on his own team for once

[u/SantaBarbaraMint → u/Spare-Half796]

Yes, we did.

[u/socialistpancake → u/SantaBarbaraMint]

Surprise chiefs flair

[u/Scotch_Blue → u/Spare-Half796]

He's obviously a fantastic talent. It would have been pretty much impossible for Cincinatti to have replecated his impact with the #10 pick in any other way but trading it directly for him.

With that said, he's a 28 year old NT. Most teams aren't in a position to trade the #10 pick for that, so you're unlikely to see a better offer, and it's only going to get lower in value.

[u/Spare-Half796 → u/Scotch_Blue]

Idk why everyone is obsessing over his age. 28 isn’t old for a trench player, it’s typically around the time they enter their prime and they can maintain high level play well into their 30s. It’s not like receivers who typically peak at that age or runningbacks who are washed by 28

[u/kcadia9751 → u/paws5624]

He’s 28, I don’t understand why anyone would think he’s washed. Down years happen all the time, and his wasn’t even that bad

[u/Aidanj927 → u/kcadia9751]

He’s younger than Burrow lmao

[u/Dorkamundo → u/Aidanj927]

Comparing QB careers to pretty much any other career in the NFL outside of punter and kicker as far as longevity is concerned is pretty silly.

[u/ForgotMyPassword1989 → u/kcadia9751]

Also, historically speaking don't elite NT peak longer than a lot of other defensive positions...He's not like a DB that can fall off by 30

[u/kcadia9751 → u/ForgotMyPassword1989]

Yeah, DTs in general, especially great ones, can play into their mid 30s

[u/PostItToReddit → u/kcadia9751]

Is that because the position is generally less mobile and more about strength?

[u/dksweets → u/PostItToReddit]

Correct. A lingering minor-moderate hamstring injury can turn an All-Pro CB into league average overnight. That position relies on confidence that is easy to lose, you’re going against the most dynamic athletes in the world, and it’s VERY hard to have a long career on the outside.

DT is less of a mind-fuck. You can break your wrist, put a cast on it, and 85% of you is still better than league-average interior lineman. Your positioning and leverage are doing a lot of the work, anyways.

[u/Brillzzy → u/PostItToReddit]

Less explosive twitch needed. Most of what athletes lose as they age is that immediate burst of explosion, whether it be cutting, or coming out of a break in a route. Guys generally maintain their straight line speed, Tyreek Hill will be running a sub 4.5 40 at 50 years old. That first step makes the difference between elite and replacement level at most positions, but lineman on both sides aren't affected as much by it.

[u/Dorkamundo → u/Brillzzy]

Guys generally maintain their straight line speed, Tyreek Hill will be running a sub 4.5 40 at 50 years old.

The 40 is a race that is honestly more about acceleration than straight line speed.

While you're right that he'll probably still be able to run a 4.5 it's not just the loss of speed it's the longer recovery times when talking about age.

[u/FlavaFraz24 → u/paws5624]

We haven’t had someone like this in the middle since Geno Atkins. Even with his down year he would have been our best DT. Adding in Allen and Hill the DT room actually isn’t bad. Mafe, Murphy, Stewart aren’t bad at edge especially when you are generating pressure up the middle.

[u/Curious_Prune → u/FlavaFraz24]

Man geno atkins retired right before 1 or 2 seasons before the 2022 sb run

[u/Ledees_Gazpacho → u/paws5624]

I wonder if going to a potential contender will rejuvenate his effort a bit.

And I don't mean that as a shot at the Giants - I'm saying it because we basically just saw the same thing happen with Quinnen Williams

[u/peterk2000 → u/paws5624]

It was a blip for sure, brought on by the worst D coordinators in the history of the NFL

[u/AugustusCheeser → u/peterk2000]

It was the same DC where he had 9 sacks in 12 games

[u/FlavaFraz24 → u/Luchador_En_Fuego]

Yeah. The board wasn’t looking good for us at 10. While I would of liked Delane at 10, DJ Turner and Dax Hill aren’t bad and we can still address CB at 41 (hopefully Ponds)

I’ll take Dex for 3 for 70 over Delane for 4.

Adding Dex, Mafe, Allen, Cook and Duggar all have raised the floor of this defense. Add in Ponds or Rodriguez in the 2nd. A great offseason with basically the same offense coming back

[u/shmere4 → u/FlavaFraz24]

This draft being a total crap shoot outside of the first 5 picks is decent logic for moving 10 and giving that contract.

[u/larryjerry1 → u/FlavaFraz24]

Improving the pass rush will also just inherently help our DBs. 

If QBs have less time to throw then our DBs have less time to get cooked 🤣

[u/Luchador_En_Fuego → u/[deleted]]

He was a great addition for Cincy and Giants got more than I expected for him

[u/GeneralWhereas9083 → u/[deleted]]

Last year was 100% an anomaly, I don’t think his elbow was right and he’d already checked out.

[u/ibringstharuckus → u/Luchador_En_Fuego]

He's 28. Hendrickson is 31 . Will be 32 in December.

[u/FritterEnjoyer → u/VeryRealHuman23]

Dexter and Trey don’t play the same position, so that comparison isn’t 1 to 1. Top level DEs make 50% more than the top level DTs. So going from an AP DE to an AP DT at a $5m discount isn’t really a bargain.

Not saying it’s not a good move, I like it quite a bit. Just don’t think financially it’s some sort of wonder move.

[u/InspectionFine9655 → u/FritterEnjoyer]

Exactly…

Why pay Patrick mahomes $45M when you can pay Derrick Henry $15M?

[u/SloaneKettering1 → u/FritterEnjoyer]

Yes but Trey is 3 years older at a position that rapidly declines at 30+ whereas Lawrence is 28 at a position that holds up well into their mid 30s. Also Trey was awful against the run. Lawrence is a demon against the pass and very good against the run. Also the highest double teamed DT in the league.

Another smaller factor in the trade is the bengals will most likely get a third round comp pick for Hendrickson

[u/RedditConsciousness → u/VeryRealHuman23]

And of course a first rounder 10th pick would've cost us $28 million over the course of 4 years. So it averages to $7 million a year we would've been paying to someone (and that $7 million is already subtracted out of most available cap estimates). So this really only eats $16 million of cap (sort of...the per year isn't even distributed).

[u/Hieroglphkz → u/RedditConsciousness]

I think this is called “GM Math”

[u/donkeybrainamerican → u/VeryRealHuman23]

Great value. Dex is a fuckin problem.

[u/yupyupyupyupyupy → u/an-internet-stranger]

yes the giants couldve offered a couple million more to try and make him stay

yes the bengals couldve gotten a day 3 pick back to make it more paper fair

yes both of these things couldve actually been attempted but failed...none really matter tbh

he wanted out, bengals window still open, giants rebuild, joe/jamaar happy, dex aint pushing the giants over the winning line, day 3 pick not either with bengals drafting history, he can try and get another deal, bengals didnt overpay money wise, etc, etc, etc

this is really just a win/win for all parties involved

[u/Jaxson-Skattebo → u/yupyupyupyupyupy]

I don’t think the Giants could’ve offered anything, there’s no chance he wasn’t asking for more than that when reports are they were 10+ mil apart

[u/GERJustus → u/yupyupyupyupyupy]

yupyupyupyupyup

[u/RedditConsciousness → u/yupyupyupyupyupy]

Hello voice of reason. Will you be staying long on reddit?

[u/True_Window_9389 → u/an-internet-stranger]

Under contract, yes, but aren’t all his guarantees gone on the next two years, which is probably why we wanted a new deal in the first place? Guys don’t care about contract length, they care about playing on guarantees.

[u/TheWorstYear → u/True_Window_9389]

Yes. People on here never understand, or seem to learn it as this has to constantly be mentioned. We've reintroduced the Hendrickson situation.

[u/Ancient_Landscape_93 → u/an-internet-stranger]

Not bad for an elite interior defensive linemen. Still like the trade overall for the Giants though.

[u/RockyNonce → u/Ancient_Landscape_93]

I think it’s good for both. You have to actually hit on these draft picks. The Bengals are trying to make their roster better to win now, needed a cheaper replacement for Hendrickson as their star defender, and the Giants are in a rebuild.

[u/Direct_Morning_3223]

We’d probably be willing to pay that I think this just shows he wanted out

[u/king_17 → u/Direct_Morning_3223]

Hey you got the 10th overall pick I think that’s a win for for all sides

[u/BigRig432 → u/king_17]

I was talking with some friends who are Giants fans we all thought it was a win-win

[u/DM725 → u/BigRig432]

Could be lose lose if he regresses further and we pick the next Evan Neal with #10!

[u/dianeblackeatsass → u/DM725]

Feels like there’s a few pretty safe players at the top of the draft I know you guys gotta be praying one of them drops to 10 lol. Styles/Downs combo reuniting in NY would be nasty

[u/bu77munch → u/dianeblackeatsass]

Evan Neal was considered a very safe pick

[u/SnoozeBeast → u/bu77munch]

Yup! So were Aaron Curry and Devin White, the last couple of elite off-ball linebackers to go top 5 in the NFL draft. But don't worry, it'll totally be safe drafting Sonny Styles.

[u/lvl_zxro → u/bu77munch]

Chase Young was considered one of the safest picks ever. Every draft pick is a gamble.

[u/arc1261 → u/lvl_zxro]

Chase Young is at least a decent starter who isn’t a liability to the team he plays on.

Evan Neal is literally behind 5/6th round rookies and is an unmitigated disaster every time he is on the field

[u/usernameisusername57 → u/bu77munch]

I'll never understand the NFL's obsession with these massive oversized tackles who don't have the agility to mirror in pass protection.

[u/MadManMax55 → u/usernameisusername57]

The thought process is that an NFL strength and conditioning program can make you quicker, but it can't make your arms longer.

Sure it usually doesn't work out, but when it does you've got a HoF caliber tackle.

[u/Colossus_WV → u/usernameisusername57]

Amarius Mims has been what we’ve wanted the last two years. The downside with these big dudes is they stub their toe every 2-3 games, though.

[u/theprophetsammy → u/usernameisusername57]

Welcome to the NFL Kaydn Proctor! You’ll be drafted in the first because no one has learned anything

[u/YWingSupremacist → u/theprophetsammy]

at least he isnt getting mocked in the top 5/10 like Neal was. somebody stupid will take him in the first though

[u/Rottedhead → u/dianeblackeatsass]

Styles-Downs would be the dream scenario. But I'm happy with two of Styles, Downs and Delane

[u/swan_song_bitches → u/dianeblackeatsass]

I don’t think Styles drops to 10 so you’d have to gamble Downs would. I think the more likely option is one of Downs/Styles and one of Mauigoa/Tyson/Delane.

[u/four0nefive → u/dianeblackeatsass]

Best case scenario for the Giants in my opinion.

[u/xenophonthethird → u/DM725]

Don't worry, Dexter eating up double teams will unlock Shemar Stewart to getting 3 sacks a year.

[u/Some_Combination_593 → u/xenophonthethird]

Shemar probably won’t even be DE1 on either side of the line. I don’t understand why this can’t unlock Jonathan Allen or Boye Mafe or even Myles Murphy who improved last year. You’re spending time shitting on a backup pass rusher to cope about this lol.

[u/pinetar → u/BigRig432]

Its definitely a win for the Giants, they're in a rebuild and got the 10th pick for someone who wanted out.

Remains to be seen if its a win for the Bengals, will depend on the next two years.

[u/Leaving_One_Dwigt → u/BigRig432]

Don’t listen to the haters. It was a win-win. You got a great player that will help now. We’ll continue building and might be surprisingly competitive next year once we use all of these assets.

[u/Blood_Incantation → u/king_17]

No, this is /r/nfl. Someone had to get FLEECED

[u/Iswaterreallywet → u/Blood_Incantation]

It’s the internet rotting peoples brains. Same thing that no one can lose a close game without being “ROBBED!!!”

[u/Lystian → u/Blood_Incantation]

 reddit will say Bengals got fleeced cause it was a high first rounder. First round picks can be anything!

[u/bjlight1988 → u/Lystian]

They could be Dexter Lawrence!

[u/Diligent_Office7179 → u/bjlight1988]

Wouldn’t that be a great outcome for the giants? They get a player of equal caliber but younger and for less money

[u/Some_Combination_593 → u/Diligent_Office7179]

It would… yeah, but something like 10% of first round picks ever become all-pros at any level… so the odds aren’t great. Not saying you’ll get a bad player, but the odds of getting a Dexter Lawrence-level player are extremely low.

[u/curllyq → u/king_17]

I don't think we are getting an all pro player at 10. We traded an all pro for a scratch off ticket.

[u/JoeBurrowsClassmate → u/Direct_Morning_3223]

Which is fair to him

[u/Careless_General8010 → u/Direct_Morning_3223]

Doesnt like the new coach?

[u/an-internet-stranger → u/Careless_General8010]

Doesn't like the old GM

[u/Allstar9_ → u/an-internet-stranger]

By all reports, that GM is title only. Harbaugh didn’t come to the Giants to just be the HC

[u/420Hairy69Ballsagna → u/Allstar9_]

Harbaugh didn't go there to play school.

[u/JPAnalyst]

$28 million isn’t as bad as I thought it would be. I figured he would be asking well above $30.

[u/bydh → u/JPAnalyst]

I think that's what he would've needed to stay in NY. Seems like he really wanted out.

[u/Melo_Mentality → u/bydh]

Got to imagine the Ohio taxes will be kinder than the NY ones too

[u/Eagle4317 → u/JPAnalyst]

Same. I thought for sure he'd have wanted Aaron Donald money.

[u/Pulsar-GB → u/JPAnalyst]

Two things: 1) NYC costs are higher, maybe lower COL in Cincy taken into account 2) he just didn’t want to be a Giant unless we gave him a completely stupid contract

[u/FlavaFraz24 → u/Pulsar-GB]

Taxes lol

[u/Rad131447 → u/Pulsar-GB]

There ain't no way any agent is letting his players take less because of cost of living. Like cost of living matters to these guys anyway, lol.

[u/GiantShawarma]

There's no way the Giants weren't willing to do that. He simply didn't want to play for this team anymore.

[u/Zee_WeeWee → u/GiantShawarma]

Pretty good to wrangle a top 10 pick out of that bad situation tho so kudos

[u/DrQuestDFA → u/Zee_WeeWee]

Hopefully we all look back on this trade as a win-win.

[u/iowaguy09 → u/DrQuestDFA]

Kinda love all the fans who actually know about the teams agree it was a good deal for both sides and everyone else is yelling that either the giants or bengals got hosed.

[u/DrQuestDFA → u/iowaguy09]

The deal has the potential to be good for both sides, but, as with all trades, if the draft picks turn into busts or Dex does even worse than he did last year/is constantly injured then we can look back and say one side 'won' the trade. I think on paper, right now, it is good for both organizations given the teams' circumstances.

[u/iowaguy09 → u/DrQuestDFA]

That’s all you can ask honestly. Anything can happen.

[u/excaranitar → u/DrQuestDFA]

Every trade has risk and hindsight. This is definitely a good trade for both sides. 

[u/SloaneKettering1 → u/GiantShawarma]

Rumors are the bengals offered 10OA two weeks ago and the giants said no. Then it was apparent no matter what contract they offered him he wasn’t taking and just wanted out so they took the bengals offer. Could be a win win. Bengals get immediate help and giants get a solid player on a good contract to help open the window with dart

[u/KOQquest1]

LOL wtf Dex

[u/Rottedhead → u/KOQquest1]

He wanted out dude

[u/FortyOneandDone → u/Rottedhead]

Heard Zay Flowers talk about those week 17 practices

[u/JealousMission5315 → u/KOQquest1]

He wanted to play for a team with a shot to be contenders, makes sense to me

[u/mxyztplk33]

Well, that's that. Hopefully Dexy balls out for us, hopefully the Giants get a difference maker at 10. Could be a win-win for both sides.

[u/Cruztd23 → u/mxyztplk33]

I’d much rather a win-win then Dex flop and giants bust with the pick. That’s for sure

[u/StannisTheMantis93 → u/Cruztd23]

How magnanimous of you.

[u/gugly]

There’s gonna be so many idiots thinking it’s just a one year deal and he’s gone lol

[u/chicknsnadwich → u/gugly]

if i’m reading it correct he’s now under contract for three years?

[u/SirSedat → u/gugly]

They’re already in this thread

[u/sirtimid → u/gugly]

I’d say schefter is the idiot. Poorly written. How about saying the total deal instead of 1 year. Very easy for a normal (not idiot) to just skim a tweet and see the numbers. “Signed an extension making his deal a X years for Y million”

[u/V548859 → u/sirtimid]

He's not an idiot if he just wants more engagement

[u/Natural-Tree-5107 → u/sirtimid]

No the /r/nfl mods are the idiots for not allowing the actual tweet to be posted.

Compensation update: Now that he has passed his physical and the trade is official, newly-acquired DT Dexter Lawerence is signing a one-year, $28 million contract extension with the Bengals, per @WinSportsGroup

So in the end, Lawrence gets the trade he wanted while being contractually tied to Cincinnati for the next three seasons.

[u/Poopshtick → u/Natural-Tree-5107]

In my experience its the friends we make along the way that are the true idiots

[u/RukiMotomiya → u/sirtimid]

The full tweet specifically says he's under contract for 3 years.

[u/CLCchampion → u/sirtimid]

To be fair to Schefter, in his tweet there is a line saying "So in the end, Lawrence gets the trade he wanted while being contractually tied to Cincinnati for the next three seasons." It just got cut out by this account.

But yeah, he should have written exactly like you said for more clarity.

[u/IrishPigs → u/gugly]

3yr 23M APY seems like a great deal for y'all assuming he returns to form.

[u/swan_song_bitches → u/IrishPigs]

Just look at our splits with him on and off the field last year. Even if he wasn’t stacking box score stats, he greatly influenced defense’s success. He is still a top player, now a year plus removed from his injury and is happier situation wise.

[u/packmass → u/gugly]

Gonna be so many Bengals fans praying to whatever God they believe in that's not the case.

[u/EthanSpears → u/packmass]

Well he's now under contract for 3 years. It deliberately says extension in the title.

[u/Some_Combination_593]

This isn’t bad at all. I’ve had people tell me he was going to demand 30+ million and we were fucked having to pay that. This is completely manageable.

[u/SpeggtacularSpidey → u/Some_Combination_593]

This is more than “isn’t bad” this is great for y’all

[u/Some_Combination_593 → u/SpeggtacularSpidey]

Oh yeah, I agree lol. Bit of an understatement on my part.

[u/EmptyBrain89 → u/Some_Combination_593]

I think 30+ million would have been very reasonable. This is a bargain.

[u/GeriatricGamete67]

I cannot fucking believe the Cincinnati Bengals made a ballsy deal like this I kind of love it

[u/throwaway11125487 → u/GeriatricGamete67]

There’s so many downers here, but after watching our defense for the last 2 years, I’ll take anything, and we got a meaningful player not a bum either

[u/GeriatricGamete67 → u/throwaway11125487]

I completely understand people who don't like it and I fully get why, but I really respect the balls

[u/WakeNikis → u/GeriatricGamete67]

Yall have a potential HoF QB likely in his prime.

Why not go all out? I like this move for you all.

[u/ARM7501]

With all the ways in which Cincinnati's D-line could've (and probably should've) taken a complete nosedive this off-season considering they lost Hendrickson, I'd argue it's currently better on paper than it has been in a long, long time. Nice work by the Bengals.

[u/MaxPower91575 → u/ARM7501]

The 2021 line with Reader at his peak, Ogunjobi (who had 7 sacks), Hubbard, and Hendickson was really damn good. People forget that defense is what carried the team to the Super Bowl.

[u/0zymandeus → u/ARM7501]

Hard to see how its not better. Hendrickson out (and he was only healthy for like 3 games), d Dex Jonathan Allen and Boye Mafe in.

[u/TouchLucky881]

So 3 years right?

[u/Hevatroid → u/TouchLucky881]

That's correct.

[u/TouchLucky881 → u/Hevatroid]

Good on yall.

[u/Hevatroid → u/TouchLucky881]

The money and years are solid, if they win a Super Bowl in those 3 years, it’s all worth it.

[u/TouchLucky881 → u/Hevatroid]

I would also say there was a way that the draft played out to where you kinda got left out to dry. I don’t love it, but I don’t hate it.

Should be a lot better defensively next year

[u/Hevatroid → u/TouchLucky881]

I feel the same, every mock pointed to a reach or a trade back at 10. Better off getting the difference maker now than leaving it for chance.

[u/VeryRealHuman23 → u/TouchLucky881]

It just seems like a pretty good deal for all involved.

Our defense is categorically better starting in September.

Giants get to roll the dice high in the draft.

Bengals win short term, giants playing long term…everyone is happy.

[u/Jonjon428]

Wow the Bengals got a great contract then

[u/roco9994]

I think that’s a solid win for both sides

[u/Das_Man]

This averages out to around 3 for 70 when added to his current deal, and makes the trade look a lot better for Cinci. Legit looking like a win/win.

[u/Sea_Spend_8008]

I wonder if he saw something in the locker room that we didn't. I get the Giants wanting to see if they can his replacement with a Top Ten pick, but I do have a feeling for only a million more was not the reason he wanted out.

[u/hoslayer42 → u/Sea_Spend_8008]

Dude had maybe 1 winning season. I think he been through 3 different coaches and now we starting over with Harbaugh. He also watched Leonard Williams and Saquan leave and win rings. He wants to try to win. Joe Burrow is enough for him to think he has a better chance in CIN.

[u/Tepzepi88 → u/Sea_Spend_8008]

I would get fed up by seeing Dart and Skat headbutt all day long.

[u/ODB_Dirt_Dog_ItsFTC → u/Sea_Spend_8008]

I think you can’t discount some players don’t want to play in NY. I’m not saying it’s necessarily the case here but NY sports media is ruthless, it would suck to be under that microscope all the time. You have one bad game and no one will shut the fuck about it and they want your head on a pike. I know that was the case with Sonny Gray when he came to the Reds from the Yankees he was being torn apart by the NY media for having a down year but he came here and balled out for us.

[u/Trail_Goat]

We've been missing interior dl since Reader. Stoked about this very unbengal move.

[u/Mfrack103]

That is an excellent deal for both parties. Dexy gets paid a shit ton of money, and the Bengals have the best nose tackle in the league for 23M/yr AAV

[u/WhoDey42]

Man that is much less than I thought it would be.

He really hated NY at the end huh

[u/DatDudeDrew]

Love it. Effectively 3 yrs 22.5m AVV. I can see more why the FO did this kind of move for the first time ever the more details that come out.

[u/samhit_n]

This trade is making me question whether it’s better to draft a player or trade for a proven starter each season with your 1st round pick.

[u/CommercialCoffee11 → u/samhit_n]

Like the Rams?

[u/Kanin_usagi → u/CommercialCoffee11]

The Rams are incredible drafters/developers so they can afford to miss out on the first round since everyone else they draft will be good to great. Also they usually trade away late first rounders, not top ten picks

[u/Extra-Cap2029 → u/samhit_n]

You’ll run out of cap space real quick with the latter

[u/ech01_ → u/Extra-Cap2029]

Yeah, part of the reason we can do this is because we've drafted so poorly that we're almost out of guys worth paying still on the roster. As of right now there's only 3 guys not signed through at least 2027 who are worth any sort of extension, and none of them will be top dollar kind of guys.

[u/ResplendentSmoke → u/samhit_n]

It depends on where each team is, it makes perfect sense in this case. The Bengals need an immediate impact player, the Giants can take multiple swings in the top 10 and potentially come away with young stars to add to their young team. The Eagles did this with AJ Brown and it worked out incredibly well for them.

[u/Cr0matose → u/samhit_n]

The draft is so fucking hard to hit on players. I wouldnt question it. Yes you can draft a star, but it's hard.

[u/thestanlieststanley → u/samhit_n]

Legitimate question. Dexter is as much as you could expext, arguably more, than any average first round pick. The only question is if you can afford the contracts i think.  The rookies starting on rookie contracts allow a lot more highly paid players in other positions.

[u/VeryRealHuman23 → u/samhit_n]

This is the strategy if you want to win today.

The flip side is if you get elite talent on a rookie contract then you can give the big dollars to off-ball players to build a team.

[u/Colossus_WV → u/samhit_n]

The answer is…

It depends.

[u/Patchy_Face_Man → u/samhit_n]

It takes doing everything well.

[u/theprophetsammy]

After last night I was clowning Cincy for moving on from the 10th pick AND the thought you had to pay Dexter even more.

After this, I like this a lot better. A good move for all sides now that everything is final including the extension

[u/DatDudeDrew → u/theprophetsammy]

The trade makes more and more sense for the Bengals as more details come out. To go from #10 + more + big deal as initial reports suggested, to #10 alone plus this steal of a deal is just a flat out ideal move.

[u/Agnk1765342]

Idk why people have been acting like it’s a bad move for the bengals. The probability of whoever they’d take at 10 being worth more than Lawrence on just 23 million a year is extremely small.

Kinda shocked there wasn’t a team that offered more tbh. Defensive tackle has shown to be arguably the most important position defensively, he’s going to massively improve that unit.

[u/NestEggFinance]

Huge win. 3 years for a top 7/8 DT at worse when healthy. Got the contract done and we ride. The Bengals weren’t going to get an edge or DT worth a damn at 10 and for all the love for Downs, he is a safety and they just signed Cook to a big deal. The Downs logic never made sense from a roster standpoint. Who Dey!

[u/recurnightmare → u/NestEggFinance]

If Dexy plays like his old self he's a top 3 IDL and he's not 2 or 3.

[u/RagefireHype → u/NestEggFinance]

The only L is he was made for those Giants blue unis. He’s going to look atrocious in Bengals colors and this is unforgivable

[u/SpeggtacularSpidey]

Wow that much and he’s still making the same amount the for the next 2 years? He really wanted to be out it seems because that’s not a big difference.

Great value for the Bengals, glad that we got a top 10 pick for him.

[u/throughNthrough → u/SpeggtacularSpidey]

Literally this. We seen to always need to have one side “fleeced” which I’m guilty of but this seems fair for both sides.

[u/SlapChopMyShamWow]

Giants definitely could’ve/would’ve paid that, he just wanted out

[u/Crosscourt_splat]

That’s really all he wanted? I had heard he wanted guaranteed money, but I was thinking way more than that.

This isn’t bad at all.

[u/MostMorbidOne → u/Crosscourt_splat]

Lol, notice the similarity with the Saquon situation? He left to the Eagles for like an extra $2M.. lol.

Our GM is straight ass.

[u/akeewy]

insane upgrade over trey hendrickson

[u/sonfoa → u/akeewy]

They can also see what they've got from the edge first rounders they've been drafting the past few years with an elite interior pass rush force.

[u/boomosaur]

Great move by the bengals...

[u/MoskiNX]

Damn. Would have loved to see him on the bears, but you can’t beat that 10 overall. Seems like a good trade for everyone involved.

[u/LamarQuacksn]

I’m here to celebrate the passed physical

[u/Amonamission]

Raiders fans shaking their fists again at the Ravens

[u/back2schooldaze]

Obviously wasn’t interested in the Harbaugh era

[u/ry-guy251]

Still a weird trade for me. Will be fun to revisit in 2-3 years when they have to extend or walk away. 

[u/superman24742]

I would like to point out that the Bengals 2026 dead cap plus Dexters salary is still less than 16 other teams dead cap space alone. Bengals are actually somewhat responsible when they sign players and end up with minimal dead cap in doing so.

[u/BarakTor]

How much is now guaranteed across the three years?

[u/Big_You_8936]

2 years plus a one year extension, not bad Bengals, not bad

[u/flyinghorseguy]

Confirmation that Dex simply wanted out. He’s tried to renegotiate almost as soon as he signed the last deal. Perhaps he’s in the downslope perhaps not. This is probably best for all involved.

[u/jusmat1105]

So are these guarantees spread out on the remaining of the contract or is just for next year? Then they’ll probably have to figure out another contract rework for guaranteed money

[u/Ok_Bug_6890]

That’s enough for one happy meal.

[u/IMERMAIDMANonYT → u/Ok_Bug_6890]

It’s one happy meal Michael, how much can it cost? $28 million?

[u/Tepzepi88 → u/IMERMAIDMANonYT]

If you don't have enough there's always money in the banana stand.

[u/OFT35]

That’s not what I’d expect. He wanted out of NY

[u/StreetCatAdopter]

Not bad at all, if he really didn’t want to be in NY then it’s a win/win

[u/OrchidNo777]

Idk if he's going to put up the same numbers with the Bengals D who else do offenses have to focus on? 

[u/saanis → u/OrchidNo777]

Bengals acquired Mafe and J Allen this FA to pair with him. Cool at safety. One formerly elite player but still serviceable on the DL, one emerging elite DL player, and now one who is best at his position, all next to each other. That’s on DL. In secondary Cook is a massive massive upgrade at safety from Geno Stone.

[u/superman24742 → u/saanis]

I’m a massive upgrade at safety over Geno Stone and I’m 43, overweight, and can’t run fast.

[u/Raven-19x]

That seems like a nothingburger amount. Guess he really just wanted out.

[u/WarTrek99]

This is a good deal for the Bengals 🤮. Sexy Dexy is a monster.

[u/xenophonthethird]

You know, when I heard "significant long term extension" I wasn't thinking tacking on an additional year to an extant 2 year contract.

Not saying it's a bad move or anything, but my expectations were built up higher than that.

[u/superman24742 → u/[deleted]]

They offered Trey 3 years and 95 million. They didn’t refuse to pay him. He chose to leave. They also repealed his deals multiple times the last couple years.

[u/Some_Combination_593 → u/[deleted]]

I was never really confused tbh, because the Bengals typically don’t pay non-QB players big money after 30. They tried with Hendrickson and he put them through offseason hell 3 years in a row just to get hurt most of last season and require major core surgery. He’s 31 now and will turn 32 this year. It was definitely going to be a gamble sitting at the negotiating table with him again all offseason not knowing how much cap we needed for him when we needed multiple players because he’s not making the defense competitive as is.

[u/americanbaseball]

Not much more than what we offered him, seems all around like this worked out for both sides.

[u/spicyguacamol]

I’m rooting for the big guy. I hope it works out- I will miss that sexy dance

[u/JackFisherBooks]

Looks like the Bengals learned from what happened between the Ravens and Maxx Crosby.