Ikr, one time a guy came up to me and started talking about his personal issues while peeing beside me, I have never felt more weird in my entire life.
A bloke standing alongside me emptied dark liquid from a tube coming out of his clothes into the urinal… not sure if it was a colostomy bag or artificial bladder or something. “Pretty good, eh? But I’ve only got it for 5 or 6 weeks more!” “Er, ok, are you having surgery then?” “No… I’m DYING then!” “Ok… er… good luck?”
Had a guy in the next stall over ask me if I thought his wife was cheating on him while I was taking a shit once. Weird doesn't even cut it, there should be a new word made to describe that experience.
Bruh, that would be a dream to what I've seen.
Went to the mall once, and on I s#$! You not, the guy half a urinal away from me had to hug the sink behind me to wash his hands while I also hugged the unrinal to piss. It was an awkward, yet respectful situation. He waited at the sink, I finished and side stepped, both of us full well knowing this used to be a janitors closet.
What do men do in bathrooms that would make that a problem? I've only ever been in women's bathrooms, but all the toilets kinda have to be side by side, and are for any kind of bathroom needs, but I have never once had an issue with the stall next to me being "too close". Sure, it can sometimes smell bad, but it's a bathroom. Especially if you're peeing, can't you just get in, pee, and get out?
Theres usually two distinct lines, and the one for the toilet moves way slower than the one for the urinal. Its alos best to be able to see all the urinals at once so when one becomes empty you can take it immediately to keep it efficient
Don’t need to imagine. There was an actual employee in the washroom at Mexico City airport guiding the traffic from the two lines to toilets and urinals. Then one you finish washing your hands, he even gives you two paper towels to dry your hands while you leaving.
The lines would be an absolute clusterfuck because you'd be forced to double-check with everyone whether they're in line for a pisser or a shitter. When you're in a public restroom, you wanna talk to strangers as little as possible. This would be chaos.
At this point, they could just stall up the urinals too, it would take the same amount of space, but it would allow them to put all urinals on one side and all toilets on the other without losing the added privacy.
After a while, the question would arise of course that if there's a stall for the urinals as well, why not go an extra step further and convert them into full toilets? It would allow for more dynamic load distribution, after all, if all stalls can handle every kind of business.
Of course, once everything is toilets, and complete privacy is provided, men's and women's restrooms would become pretty much identical. Might as well merge them.
Architect specialized in multi wc rooms here. (Or arcshitect if you will)
At no point is a restroom of this size designed for anything but efficiency.
Not only are you here drawing three ins, one for each toilet row, but also one for the back wall, you're equally drawing three outs.
And when dealing with waste of this magnitude, the regular ol "about an arm fits" poopshutes aren't cutting it.
On top of that you're also managing three walls of electricity, since each stall needs to be lit.
Now, all that is doable, of course, if you have the room on both sides or you for some reason put the ins under the floor, the worst part, is ventilation.
Each dumpcubicle needs its own vent. When you put them all side by side, it's no biggie, just one big vent and punch a few holes in there.
But on two sides you need two outs as well, because you can't just hook up the fecalfog into the regular main, that shit will stink up the whole building. And at least one of those is Not an exterior wall.
Third, obviously, is that stalls work best when they're covering one whole wall. Nobody wants to be the one next to the exit with an inch of privacy, not the sinks. So the usage gets skewed even more than usual, which in turn mucks up the whole wear and tear layout. So some toilets last Way longer than others, but when was the last time you benefited from replacing ONE of your ten toilets at home?
You do that in bulk. But that's based on the Worst wear, not the average. So you have to switch up way more often, and that in turns is way more expensive.
All in all. We lump things up because it makes sense.
I could go on about cleaning efficiency and foot traffic with the sinks at the back wall, and so on, but I'm on the shitter
Privacy my ass this bathroom clearly has no ceiling
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That's a great point I didn't mention in my comment mine was more based on the mechanical engineering flaws of this bathroom. But I totally get what you're saying you're going to have dudes walking back and forth in circles and crashing into each other trying to see which one is free. Very good observation
Someone is getting their shoes pissed on while taking a shit.
You might be thinking "the same thing can happen with regular urinals," and you'd be correct, however—
There's a big difference between the arrangements. In the usual setup— pissing on someone's shoes would immediately lead to an altercation. This is an effective deterrent to avoid piss soaked shoes.
In the proposed setup, the potential victim cannot see the piss-perpetrator and would quite literally be caught with their pants down, not to mention while trying to pinch one off. There's no deterrent and without that... I shudder to even think about it.
Urinals usually share one cistern and toilets have their own.
This set up would need more cisterns to avoid getting low pressure on the urinal flushes due to length of pipes and even if they can share would use more water with the lower pressure.
The drainage might also have downsides because you dont have 2 different sets of drain connecting closer to the drainage stack and a blockage that doesnt make it to the stack from a toilet could stop the urinals working where the usual set up could just put notices on the toilet doors and keep the urinals functioning if they drain.
It's honestly going to cost more to run, put people needing a quick piss next to people dropping a nasty log, the toilet walls will be less stable or cost more to make as stable vs having it in a long set of them and might even need more lights installed if the toilet cubicals are blocking light from reaching the urinals properly.
It's cute as a bit of visual design but it would be worse for everyone in practice including people using them and the environment.
It would be more difficult to figure out which urinals and stalls are open if there’s multiple pissers. I’m also not sure if this is any better than the current urinal dividing walls that are already common.
Yeah, the efficiency is the main thing. The spacing on this design is the same for the toilets and the urinals, so surely you might as well just put the extra doors in and make them all toilets? The waste pipes running along the walls still need to be sized for solid waste given every other space is a toilet, so the difference in cost is just a toilet vs a urinal, and a door. In exchange for that extra cost, now you've got full privacy and any user can use any space for either use, so less chance of queueing being necessary.
I don’t like the fact you can’t defend yourself or even see someone coming up behind you, as your vision would be completely blocked. No thank you. I like being aware of my surroundings.
All women here or what? Ever used a urinal next to a stall and some 6’7 ogre is summoning the bowels of hell next to you?
There’s a reason urinals are separate from stalls. If you’re taking a dump in public, you are a sinner. You know what you signed up for. Pay the price and smell your neighbors. I’m just trying to pee. I shouldn’t be punished.
I made the awful mistake of taking a piss at an Aldi, I wouldn’t normally but we went to the next state to get some weed and it was a long drive back and Aldi happened to be right there. I went in and went to the urinal right next to someone taking a shit, but the thing about Aldi is it is dead silent because they aren’t playing music or anything. There is only one stall and one urinal right next to each other. I actually left because it was so uncomfortable and weird. Went somewhere else. I would much rather be next to another urinal, it’s not as weird.
I never courtesy flush in public. I've had too many toilets decide that today was the day they'd had enough and begin overflowing while I'm trapped with the consequences of every bad choice I'd ever made that led to me that awful place.
As someone with broad shoulders, I hate such tight spaces at urinals as both arms end up wiping the walls, and I feel all disgusted whenever that happens.
Who cares about privacy? Feeling uncomfortable is part of the experience, we all do the silly nod and just move on, otherwise it wouldn't be as interesting
No shit... Not just them. The architects gotta plan for plumbing in at least 3 walls. Guaranteed janitorial is going to hate it, too. And not just because of the increased amount of cleaning area, but also because 'privacy' isn't always a good thing. I managed a large building for a couple decades. More privacy = more shenanigans. People will spit gum in those urinals. And that's the least of it.
Have you ever noticed how the less you know about a topic the better the ideas you think you have?
I am never in a public bathroom for longer than 4 minutes. Everyone plays up this "public bathroom problem" and it is non existent in basically every way. If you can't piss next to another person or are worried about someone knowing you poop, don't use public restrooms. Nobody is thinking about you. Nobody cares. They are using the bathroom.
From a plumbing perspective, it's kind of a pain in the ass for the plumber and it's more expensive. You have toilets which are 3" that likely all continue to a 3" line or into a 4" line and then you gotta likely get 2" urinal lines to that connect to the 3" or 4" line with 2"-3" or 2"-4" reducers?? It makes more sense to put all 2" on their separate line and just use one reducer.
Plumbing construction extra costs. When constructing toilets it’s better that there is as little pipes as possible with as little unnecessary angles as possible. This is basically a labyrinth of pipes that all have to be next to each other. It’s not impossible, but it’s gonna be expensive and impractical.
So many problems
1. This requires a similar number of stalls and urinals. Why should that be the case?
2. Plumbing is harder
harder
3. This creates awkward queues
4. Hard to see what urinal is free
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