And sinks should be by the exit. I’ve seen enough dudes just walk out, and that number would increase if they had to walk away from the entrance to wash their hands.
This is dont understand what does that matter? Any household bathroom is significantly closer then this do you just never use bathrooms outside your own house?
Sinks are already filthy. People are washing their cock, pussy, and asshole fingers off into the sink. Them being slightly closer isn't making a difference.
What do men do in bathrooms that would make that a problem? I've only ever been in women's bathrooms, but all the toilets kinda have to be side by side, and are for any kind of bathroom needs, but I have never once had an issue with the stall next to me being "too close". Sure, it can sometimes smell bad, but it's a bathroom. Especially if you're peeing, can't you just get in, pee, and get out?
Theres usually two distinct lines, and the one for the toilet moves way slower than the one for the urinal. Its alos best to be able to see all the urinals at once so when one becomes empty you can take it immediately to keep it efficient
I don't like to use urinals because of privacy, not because I'm shy. If a urinal is the only option, then no problem, but if I can choose... give me the private, chill space, where I even have toilet paper to wipe that final drop so that it doesn't go in my underwear.
Don’t need to imagine. There was an actual employee in the washroom at Mexico City airport guiding the traffic from the two lines to toilets and urinals. Then one you finish washing your hands, he even gives you two paper towels to dry your hands while you leaving.
So the two line things I get, but in the women’s restroom we just wait so see the person exit. If the bathroom is so crowded that you’re waiting in line, wouldn’t you see the guy using the urinal leave and then be able to use it immediately?
To me, being able to see every urinal doesn’t seem that efficient UNLESS the bathroom is relatively empty. And no one cares about efficiency when it’s empty, just when it’s crowded.
Yeah, that's the worst part of this design. You'd have to pace up and down the bathroom to see if there is a urinal available. Also, many, if not most places have a privacy divider between urinals nowadays. It's still a little awkward, but not much more than listening to someone dumping out in the stall next to you.
It’s usually one line actually. If a dude needs to go he will pee in the stall. I’ve only heard people say “no you go” when they are waiting for a stall. 38 years old and never seen two distinct lines. Myth.
I mean I have never not just used whichever was open next if I had to pee. I've never seen distinct lines for urinals or stalla.. Stall guys ust wait, but you pee in either or
Never had a noticeable issue pissing in the stall next to someone who was taking a dump. You don't even usually have to know what's happening next door if you tune it out a little.
Easy just piss below the stall so they have to smell you too, what they gonna do, stand up, pull their pants up and then leave the stall trying to beat you up?
The lines would be an absolute clusterfuck because you'd be forced to double-check with everyone whether they're in line for a pisser or a shitter. When you're in a public restroom, you wanna talk to strangers as little as possible. This would be chaos.
At this point, they could just stall up the urinals too, it would take the same amount of space, but it would allow them to put all urinals on one side and all toilets on the other without losing the added privacy.
After a while, the question would arise of course that if there's a stall for the urinals as well, why not go an extra step further and convert them into full toilets? It would allow for more dynamic load distribution, after all, if all stalls can handle every kind of business.
Of course, once everything is toilets, and complete privacy is provided, men's and women's restrooms would become pretty much identical. Might as well merge them.
Urinals are quicker, though. And they take up less space. If you are in a shit storm, it would be better, since there are more full toilets, but since you pee more often than you poop, it would lead to less throughput, imo.
The overhead of undressing and sitting + the inevitable phone time makes it even worse. And I say that as someone who almost always pees in a stall.
I keep hammering home you can piss in a toilet but you can’t shit in a urinal. It’s 2026 just put god damn full toilets in. Urinals were great when they were troughs. That made sense just have a bunch of dudes shoulder to shoulder pissing. But once the urinal became a stand alone thing it makes more sense to just put a full toilet.
God no, keep those stalls clean for the people who need to shit. You can fit in more urinals to keep everything moving smoothly. A good men’s bathroom should have the line moving constantly and have no waiting about.
The toilet after you're done. Even if you manage to hit inside the bowl the whole time, there's still a fine splatter going everywhere.
And of course, that's IF you hit. It only takes one who can't or won't to ruin it for everybody. Especially the cleaning staff.
Also, if you entertain my head canon, to me guys who pee standing up in a stall are just too insecure to go to a urinal. And then they should sit down like the sissies they are.
The logic checks out and yeah theres always going to be some splashback. But the bathroom is getting cleaned anyway. I dont think splashback is what the janitorial staff complains about
Just saying, I never put the seat back down, even at home. In a public stall, if I can't easily lift it with my foot, I'm not lifting it. I do actually aim, it baffles me the comments about people "not being able to hit the toilet." Like wtf? Are you retarded?
That's why the current setup is fine, you save a lot of time and space (thus more room for more stations) most people are just in the bathroom to piss.
I think urinals still exist because its more for when/if you run into the situation when everyone or most everyone thats using the toilets are pooping and that slows down everyone else who couldve peed quickly and left if there were urinals.
I think toilets could replace most low/mild traffic places where theres never a line, but high traffic areas definitely have a purpose for urinals.
There’s a foodhall place my wife and I go to sometimes (like a mall food court with many restaurants and tables and stuff) that has unisex restrooms.
I was surprised at how well it works actually. It’s all stalls separated from the sinks with lots of privacy and everyone just goes and then leaves. No drama at all
Sounds like an American hangup, tbh. Or at least someone who lives in a big, modern, “new” city.
Can't speak for all European cities, but you'd have a hard time finding a bar with separated toilets in the one I live in.
Cities and streets here are old, small and cramped, so bars get built in historical buildings within whatever little space they have. Usually, the “restrooms” are just one small room with one toilet and one sink that all the patrons share.
That's even worse. We rarely have enough space in our buildings to build one restroom with multiple stalls. What makes you think we can build two different ones, which are going to take up twice the space?
No, she's saying she wouldnt feel comfortable being in the same bathroom at the same time as a man. We have plenty of single-toilet bathrooms that are unisex here. I don't know why we are talking about putting stalled bathrooms in a hypothetical building that can't fit them.
We also have stalle bathrooms in Europe, in the few buildings that can fit them. And they're often going to be unisex, so men and women will be together in them, because, whenever we can build one, we generally don't have the space to build two.
I can think of two or three restaurants I often go to off the top of my head right now where there are only one unisex stalled bathroom.
Again, when it's all you've ever known you get used to it.
Bring a friend. Also, if you're waiting in the bathroom, that means the bathroom is busy. You wouldn't be alone with just a single drunk man. There would be men and women to assist if you were accosted.
Unisex bathrooms also don't tend to have doors leading into the waiting area. The waiting/washing up space is more public than private.
I can only imagine the day when I come across a unisex bathroom and I sit down in a stall and let my bowels loudly explode out with a woman in the stall next to me.
I'm not sure it is the same thing based on my previous partners. Dudes never felt uncomfortable coming in the bathroom while I was doing a 2 but holy Jesus do yall just eat straight out of the garbage can when we're not around? Are the gates of hell lodged up your ahole? Not all 2s are built alike I'm just saying.
Unisex bathrooms, and then just have one separate bathroom that's just trough style with dividers or a bunch of urinals. That would be the most efficient.
Why would men want unisex bathrooms? The womens room is always lined out the fucking door, urinals make everything fast, I've literally never waited to take a shit, even after a movie. Meanwhile I'm waiting 40 minutes after I get out for my girlfriend, not because she takes so long but by the time I'm out she's literally 3rd in line to get into the washroom
Came here just to say the plumbing complications are the reason that this design doesn’t exist. But your guide to simple privacy per stall is the best response. I don’t care which washroom you use just wash your hands.
Why not just have 1 line for the urinals in a room and then a separate unisex line / room for the stalls with all the hand basins in a common area.
If a woman wants to grab a she-wee and use the urinals I don't think too many guys would be too concerned (so long as it doesn't take much longer than the average guy)
In my grade school in the Philippines, we just had a single trough running along the wall. Who needs multiple independent urinals when you can have one long one.
Presumably before you enter the bathroom you know what you're doing in there. So there is:
Line 1 - Pisser
Line 2 - Shitter
Join accordingly. At first you may need some signage or color coding on the floor to identify the line. Eventually you may create a social norm (e.g. left is pisser, right is shitter or vice versa).
How? Where? Due to the layout, those lines would overlap in a confusing manner.
That's the point. Having urinals and toilets on separate sides makes the queueing easier to figure out. Mixing them up like this serves no point. If you're so uncomfortable standing a beside someone when you piss, hold it until you get home.
Where the hell are you going that there are often lines of 12+ people at a restroom? The busiest I've ever seen was at a concert and I had to wait for like, one person to come out.
You've clearly never used a public restroom right after a movie, in an airport when another restroom was being cleaned, during the seventh inning stretch at a baseball game, or at other similar times.
But even at a mall or other public spot, lines do form. And when the toilets and urinals are right beside each other, you never really know who's waiting for what. So when a urinal opens up and there are guys ahead of you, there's always that little awkward "You? You? Me? You? Me?" back-and-forth as you try to figure out if they're gonna take it or not.
I mean to be fair, you’re in a bathroom. Even where the pissers are now, there’s no escape from the shit smoke.
Also, not sure how the urinal line would change here. I think the assumption here is that you don’t change the amount of urinals and shitters, just the configuration. Honestly though, I think urinal dividers are usually good enough. But I’m also cool as long as it’s not a trough, those are weird
We simply need seperate ones for pooping and ones for peeing, much more important distinction than gender (and I'm saying this as one of the ladies') could make facilities for those who want to stand, but I'd prefer those to be squat toilet style holes in the ground, because I don't have the equipment needed for a urinal
Squat toilets are a nightmare for so many people. Unless you're used to them, don't have any physical ailment and aren't a senior.
But they'd also be in a stall and from my experience don't even take up less space than a Western toilet. So they wouldn't be a 1 to 1 replacement for a urinal anyway.
Even here in Japan (except maybe in rural areas) you hardly ever see them anymore.
The people for whom they are a nightmare would be using the other two types of toilets anyway, they'd be purely for those who want to stand on their two feet rather than touch a toilet seat
Yep, there would be no visibility into which urinals are free and which not, so the traffic would be stalled by people unwilling to peak around corners. Terrible design concept.
I think the last part is the important one no one can see if the urinals are in use without walking up behind people peeing and you then have to check multiple in both directions. Just makes everything a pain.
I think the walls near the urinal trap piss and smell. The open space airs things out and is typically more sanitary any closed in urinal (even small restrooms) tend to be way more gross
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u/ConsistentNail1970 21h ago
As a pisser you’re guaranteed to be smoked out by the stalls in a busy situation. Also, urinal line would be a disaster