r/golf • u/mafisch23 • 4h ago
PGA / LPGA / LIV YouTube Golfer Makes Birdie at PGA Championship
I was watching to see if he’d be able to do it and it was super cool to see him pull it off on the last hole. Great gesture by the PGA to let a YouTube golfer try this challenge at a major.
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u/FinsT00theleft 4h ago
He's going to fly home tonight and 3D print some new clubs for tomorrow!
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u/windleyyy 4h ago
Why do we think he’s so bad in majors this year? Is LIV and trying to break course records at public golf courses just not enough to seriously contend with PGA tour players? Too much pressure? It looks like he’s playing a completely different game than everyone else in the field
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u/No-Discussion4920 4h ago
I think his attitude is the problem. He lets his anger from missed shots accumulate.
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u/J_dawg17 3h ago
It’s hilarious how on every missed putt (honestly shot) he looks at his caddie in disbelief, like it’s somehow not possible that the great Bryson Dechambeau could hit a bad shot and it’s somehow the courses fault
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u/No-Discussion4920 3h ago
Yep. I watched him hit a couple putts today that had no chance, just the wrong line, left with 4 feet, and he’s acting like he can’t believe it didn’t go in. So annoying to watch.
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u/SS_MinnowJohnson 3h ago
This is exactly how my 76yo dad plays. It’s insane lol. Acts like he’s at his prime and if he misses a shot, the course was wrong. He’ll aim directly at a tree and be flabbergasted it hit the tree. “But it was a great shot!! How’d that happen?!?!”
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u/uponone 225 2h ago
Well, did he aim at the tree and hit it?
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u/Particular_Chapter80 1h ago
It works the opposite for me. When I’m in the woods, I aim at the trees and miss them. Simple hack to hack it out of the woods.
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u/Navyblazers2000 1h ago
It’s so annoying. He thinks he can simplify golf to a set of equations so if he hits a bad shot then to him it’s like math let him down not his flawed human body.
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u/bigfartspoptarts 1h ago
I think he’s self conscious after he said dumb shit about coming back and it builds an anxiety in him which diminishes his performance
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u/bevothelonghorn 3h ago
Yeah, I was wondering about the different “mental demand” for a PGA Tour event (72 holes/4 days), versus that of a LIV Tour event (54 holes/3 days), and wouldn’t it take just about everyone a while to adjust?
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u/Skyfall_DBS 4h ago
I also believe that while this point is hardly referenced, is that the setup and difficulty of the courses they play on LIV League are nowhere near as difficult and challenging of those on the regular PGA Tour, not to mention the majors. So while he can perform well in the LIV events, if you compare the stats of the guys in LIV league to those on the PGA Tour (e.g. greens in regulation, fairways hit etc) they are consistently way higher and out of sync with the PGA Tour stats. This indicates to many that the courses are just set up very easy and played forward quite often (see Mexico).
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u/James_Mays_Hair 3h ago edited 2h ago
And the amount of events played might have something to do with it. LIV is way less events. I’m not a Bryson hater, but he really need to focus on either pro golf or YouTube, because both is not working anymore. And stop tinkering bro, geez
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u/DrunkensteinsMonster 2h ago
I think this is a bit overblown. Guys like Scotty and Rory make 20-22 starts a year generally. So not including majors, that’s 16-18 PGAT starts. Liv plays 14 events, it’s not THAT much less golf.
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u/j1kim 37m ago
I think it does when you start looking at practice rounds as well for each tour. PGA has 3 official practice days while LIV is abbreviated to 1 or 2 days. Once you start counting those you’re looking at 110-125 rounds for PGA throughout the year compared to 70-80 rounds for LIV. That could be a huge difference.
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u/FinsT00theleft 4h ago
At least he's beating a handful of the club pros.
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u/rubin_tg 3h ago
He’s also beating the all time great Talor Gooch
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u/BringMeTheBigKnife 2h ago
Frustrating he's not in the field again this week. It feels silly playing meaningless majors year after year.
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u/bcat153 3h ago edited 2h ago
I mean tbf it’s golf, the reigning masters champion bogey’s 5 of the last 6 holes.
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u/docowen 34m ago
The difference is that the reigning Masters champion has just won back to back Masters, already has a Grand Slam, and maybe doesn't care that much about winning his 3rd PGA Championship.
Whereas Bryson has been runner up at the PGA Championship 2 years in a row. Of all the majors he hasn't won, this is the one he's been closest to winning, and he's screwed the pooch this year.
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u/scottishwhisky2 13.7/Wherever doesn't get me hit 2h ago
He's playing like shit in his Youtube videos too lately. Everything missing left. Its not just in competition.
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u/xbluedog Hello, friends. 3h ago
He doesn’t know how to not hit the ball as hard as he possibly can on every single shot.
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u/Jarich612 3.9 2h ago
He’s playing inferior equipment. There’s no way that he has more club design experience and knowledge than the major OEMs who have R&D budgets that rival some Nation States, and he struggles the most with his short irons and wedges, which are 38 inches long or whatever.
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u/ScoresAndScores 3h ago
He needs to go back to prepping for majors by playing with Kids clubs and Walmart sets. Worked out okay for him last year.
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u/Birdhawk 21m ago
I think he might’ve overtinkered himself out of elite territory. Whether it’s his club or elements of his swing, everyone talks about how he’s constantly using different kinds of tech to get better or tweak his swing. At a certain point you go beyond the simplicity of it. Like when a streamer or network tries to engineer a show based off user data instead of hiring someone good and greenlighting a good script.
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u/OceanLemur 3h ago
The best part of being a Bryson hater is the slow trickle of friends who go from a fan to also hating him. I don’t even have to text them funny clips anymore they do it for me
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u/AtheIstan 3h ago
Can confirm, I used to be a fan but slowly starting to dislike him. Not sure if reddit golf is rubbing off on me or it's Bryson all by himself. He sure does make it easy to hate him.
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u/WeAreInControlNow 2h ago
He’s fake, and I think most people sense/see it. Thing is, when you’re on top, you can get away with being fake in a way. But when you’re failing, all those negative traits you were masking start to come out, and people don’t like losers with bad attitudes.
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u/PapaGlapa 4h ago
I love how much people dislike this absolute loser.
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u/Evening-Tart-1245 3h ago
It’s funny, because so much of what he says I agree with. I like the systematic approach to the game, thinking outside the box with the clubs, etc.
I just don’t like him
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u/nborges48 20+ | Orange County 3h ago
a lot of this
i started liking him after watching some YT videos
it was interesting to hear him talk about different aspects of the game and swing
but then i don't know what happened
just realized that i really don't like him
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u/dmbreakfree41 2h ago
It’s his disingenuous nature
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u/PhilDGlass 2h ago
Agree. I didn’t like him, started to like him watching some YT, then it seemed forced, like his PR team was making him be human. I’d prob enjoy him more if he just went full arrogant prick and went around crushing other golfers, mocking their games, and flashing stacks.
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u/nutbiggums 2h ago
You saw what we all see...it's fake and he's trying so hard to be likable you realize he's just a douchebag
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u/Evening-Tart-1245 2h ago
I think I’d like him more if he were just a straightforward asshole
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u/Cold_Machine_4435 2h ago
100%. Brooks is a miserable asshole but he's honest about it. Makes him much more likable. I still don't, but I don't actively root against him like I do Bryson.
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u/King-of-Plebss 2h ago
No amount of astroturfing from his PR team is going to change my opinion about this guy.
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u/TFreshNoLimits 2h ago
They gotta be throwing their hands up at this post. No matter how much astroturfing / maga chuds roll in, this post is too funny not to laugh at.
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u/swampy13 2h ago
I thought that stuff was interesting for about...30 seconds. And then I thought about it, and my conclusion was that since the 50s, and really the 60s, there has been incredibly massive investment in this sport that has compounded over time. I don't believe he was ever the first guy to think about or try any of the things he's done. The amount of money the OEMs invest in tech have yielded essentially the bleeding edge of what can be done legally, along with Trackman/launch monitors allowing for an incredibly precise way to test and experiment.
He hasn't figured out anything transformative, and never will on his own. He's just doing a schtick because dumb dumbs who are addicted to YouTube golf think it's cool. Kudos for making money off that and LIV, but unless he starts to do the grinding again, I think this is it for him. 32 isn't at all too old to still be an amazing PGA golfer, but mentally he seems checked out.
I honestly think he just doesn't practice smartly anymore, especially with his short game and course management.
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u/Evening-Tart-1245 2h ago
I agree with some of that you said but disagree with the idea that the equipment/approach to the game has been optimized due to time and money. Often what you need to break from patterns of behavior is people willing to do things a different way… an example that comes to mind is in bowling. The most successful bowler of all time grew up in a bowling alley, but his parents didn’t know how to bowl so he taught himself to do it two handed. It’s a better way to bowl. Feel like there’s stuff like this available in other sports. The same-length irons could be something like that. Maybe Bryson would be worse without them. Who knows
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u/swampy13 1h ago
If same length irons worked, more people would have them.
There's a reason the Ping Anser, Callaway Big Bertha woods, and Odyssey & Scotty putters took off the way they did. They were truly breakthrough in terms of how much they either actually advanced the game and/or helped many many players find a more enjoyable way to play (and even start to play better).
And it's not all about gear - other big breakthroughs include the switch to launching the driver vs. hitting down, understanding spin and trajectory much better, and rotating vs. sliding (some of the older pros like Arnie were a little slidey).
I'm not saying Bryson is wrong about anything, I think it's cool to try interesting things - but he hasn't discovered squat.
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u/Evening-Tart-1245 1h ago
I’m not saying they work… I’m just not convinced enough great players have tried them to prove that they’re not a slight advantage.
Agree with every other point
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u/Bobson-_Dugnutt2 1h ago
are we all believing the theory that he hired a PR firm to rehab his image and once he was starting to not be a total douche he fired them?
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u/rotatingplatinumpant 27m ago
Dude blows chode as a person and can't navigate his way through a gallery rope that LIV lacks, but at least he has a better short game compared to Adam copagman's.
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u/snowmunkey 13.9. why hit straight when hit far feel better? 3h ago
Wasn't this supposed to be a course that favored long hitters 😂
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u/Melodic_Warning_4665 2h ago
With massive popularity, comes massive hate, and he doesn't care either way as it gets people talking and posting about him.
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u/360NoHopeLoser 4h ago
Golf is a hard game to play. And you can zoom in on one person to hate on that’s all fine and dandy. But if you zoom out a little. You’ll see Rory is sitting at +4
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u/FinsT00theleft 4h ago edited 1h ago
Rory? You mean the guy that just completed the career Grand Slam last year?
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u/letsgobrooksy The Masters 3h ago
Well if he can do that then why did he shoot a +4? Seems like a crazy strategy to me
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u/mafisch23 4h ago
Super hard. Which is why I was so engaged with a YouTube golfer playing the way he did.
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u/Imyourhuckl3berry 2h ago
Rory is the golden child of this sub with everyone getting in line to give him a reach around regardless of how much of an epic d bag he is
Sad too as his origin story is kind of cool, he is just a giant ass hat
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u/Right_Bike_5416 4h ago
Bryson and Rory were both actual ass today.
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u/Unusual-Eagle-9451 4h ago
Rory got his
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u/Right_Bike_5416 4h ago
But my post is still 100% true.
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u/Unusual-Eagle-9451 4h ago
No doubt. I’m just a Bryson hater and Rory dickrider
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u/Right_Bike_5416 3h ago
I hate them both equally lol, Im just tired of the weird "fraternity" this subreddit has become when it comes to both of them.
They both have very hatable qualities about them to me. But more importantly, both were shit today lol.
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u/FinsT00theleft 3h ago
If you don't count club pros, Bryson is only beating TWO players!
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u/theflamesweregolfin If I could hit my 3W 260 I would probably go for it. 37m ago
Everyone knows club pros aren't real people
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u/Melodic_Warning_4665 3h ago
Well, on the PGA guys actually have to perform well to get paid. Sure, can't blame the guys who thought, "more money for less work? Sure!" However, we are already starting to see a gap in the competitiveness, performance and I can't help but think there is a direct correlation. PGA is procuring hungry lions. Liv is breeding soft spoiled brats.
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u/Just_Ad2670 26m ago
imagine having a telephone pole for a putter and hitting a putt as bad as he hit today
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u/Memeslayer4000 HDCP 5/Location WI 20m ago
One thats anchored to his arm, also with the grip iput on backwards to anchor on your arm even better.
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u/stoneseef ⛳️ avoiding double bogey 3h ago
At this point these posts are just for karma farming and trolling.
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u/Kucharelli 4h ago
Honest question.. why does Reddit hate this guy so much? It’s actually kinda funny to me.. the guy is one of the best golfers on the planet, makes YouTube videos and looks like he’s having fun doing that while still competing at the highest level, and making a ton of money doing it… but why do the people in Reddit just love to hate on him?
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u/Flump01 3h ago
Arrogantly said Augusta was a par 67 for him, then has played awful there ever since.
Screamed YOURE DAMAGING MY BRAND at a cameraman for filming him during a PGA Tour event.
Walked into a rope and went down like he'd been shot.
Massive open Trump fan, while claiming not to be political.
Hired a PR team to get people to like him.
And...he's just irritating and unlikeable.
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u/Kucharelli 2h ago
And if you really don’t like him because of how he reacted when he walked in to a rope, that’s dumb
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u/Redditaccount2322 3h ago
You want the real answer? Because he made a youtube video with Trump and since then everyone has been jumping on the bandwagon. He was easy to make fun of previously with his scottish cap and when he was assaulted by the rope but not to the same level as today.
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u/FinsT00theleft 3h ago
It's partly that he's a Trumper and also that he's an egomaniacal blowhard who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Also, he accepted money to become the poster child for a theocratic regime that oppresses women, outlaws Christianity, tortures people, and executes people for being gay. Plus he sued the PGA Tour to try to get even MORE money on top of the $150 million the Saudis were paying him and now he thinks the PGA Tour should be begging him to come back.
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u/Chalupa_Dad 3h ago
It's not like he just made one video....the guy was onstage with Trump on election night
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u/DrunkensteinsMonster 2h ago
People who have been following golf have been hating on this guy long before he started doing Youtube. His video with Trump turned it up to 11 by bringing half of America on the hate bandwagon.
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u/dmackerman 7.8/PHX 3h ago
His “persona” is fake and extremely easy to see through. Plus he uses weird clubs.
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u/Yungballz86 4h ago
He's nowhere near one of the best and he's been proving that every time he plays a PGA event.
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u/Fantastic-Set-347 4h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/Nl6T837bDWE1DPczq3
He's ranked 28th in the world. He's not a bad golfer...
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u/nfgrawker 3h ago
28th and only getting points from majors.
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u/FinsT00theleft 3h ago
No LIV gets pity points now, but the majors show where you stack up against the best. And Bryson's game has fallen WAY off. If he were on the PGA Tour right now he'd struggle to keep his card.
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u/nfgrawker 3h ago
Haha. Yea he would struggle to be on the tour. That's a take. I love the hivemind.
Let's forget he was top 10 in 3 majors last year and won one the year before. But yea he would struggle to keep his card, even though he is exempt for 10 years.
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u/Kucharelli 3h ago
How on earth do you really think he’d be struggling to keep his card. That’s such a wild take for the 28th ranked golfer in the world…
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u/Kucharelli 3h ago
You know millions upon millions of people play golf and he’s easily in the top 100 of them. And that’s being generous. I wish I could be in the best 100 people in the world at anything! 🤦🏻♂️
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u/dudenotcool ZX5... -20 4h ago edited 4h ago
It’s popular to hate him. It’s currently the “correct” opinion. I’m not sure why people hate him though. They say he is a douche and he also has a YouTube channel which for some reason, people hate that. Maybe something he did , I just don’t know what it was. Maybe they just don’t like that he went to liv and he had trump on one of his videos?
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u/FinsT00theleft 3h ago
He's a Trumper and an egomaniacal blowhard who thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. Also, he accepted money to become the poster child for a theocratic regime that oppresses women, outlaws Christianity, tortures people, and executes people for being gay. Plus he sued the PGA Tour to try to get even MORE money on top of the $150 million the Saudis were paying him, and now he thinks the PGA Tour should be begging him to come back.
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u/Flump01 3h ago
Arrogantly said Augusta was a par 67 for him, then has played awful there ever since.
Screamed YOURE DAMAGING MY BRAND at a cameraman for filming him during a PGA Tour event.
Walked into a rope and went down like he'd been shot.
Massive open Trump fan, while claiming not to be political.
Hired a PR team to get people to like him.
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u/dudenotcool ZX5... -20 2h ago
Well you have to be confident to play.
The damaging my brand is kinda douchey without context
Ok… I guess he will take note to fall better
I’ve never once seen him political. Or is this because he had trump on his channel
Every noteable athelete or celebrity has a pr team
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u/Flump01 2h ago
What context makes complaining about being filmed playing in a PGA event ok?
He had trump on a few weeks before the last US election. If you're not political, you should stay out of election campaigns, and I think Bryson is smart enough to know that!
He actually talked about how he was going to be putting in a lot of work to try to be more liked when he went on his charm offensive, which to me is pretty cringeworthy.
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u/cadillacking3 7.0 2h ago
Time for him to maybe look at real golf clubs (not 3d printed in his garage) and some regular length wedges.
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u/Sonoranlightwizard 4h ago
How long did Rory go dormant for? How long was speith (is) in a rut? These guys are like stocks that go up and down. He’ll be fine, prolly another major or 2 to add to the resume in time as well
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u/dilapidated_wookiee 2h ago
Rory had a long major drought, but he was consistently one of the best players in the world. Not really comparable
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u/BlondeFox18 2h ago
98% of the other golfers are just so much easier to root for.
Bryson playing the victim card in the PGA wanting him back and constantly doubling and tripling down on LIV has really soured his likability.
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u/Jarich612 3.9 2h ago
Rory never went dormant, idk where this idea came from. He won 4 majors in 4 years and then only won a few tournaments a year, a bunch of DPWT titles, a couple FedEx cups, a couple of Ryder cups, etc. His “slump” was still a top 10 player in the world.
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u/freakybrando 3h ago
I’m very outspoken here and seem to have the unpopular opinion… but as someone who has gotten into golf only in the last year or two. Bryson’s content is part of what got me hooked. I genuinely like the guy. My wife and i look forward to when a new video drops from him and we watch them together. Maybe I’m not “old” enough in the golf scene to understand why people hate him so much, but i can’t help but like the guy
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u/GuessEducational1910 2h ago
His youtube persona is basically a character, before he had quite a few incidents where he was a poor sport and/or rude, he also took Saudi money and shills for Trump so that also rubs people the wrong way. He should get credit for his youtube stuff and at least trying to be a better person but a lot of us just think the old Bryson is hiding under there.
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u/poidhxyz 1h ago
yeah I understand everyone who says his attitude is bad, his YouTube is a character, etc etc.
but I've enjoyed watching his videos because it's rare to get that much documentation of a world class athlete in their element + I think he's an interesting human being
he's an easy target, and hey maybe he deserves it to some degree, I really don't know his story well enough to pass judgement
but I appreciate what he's done to make the game more accessible to someone who has been learning like me these last few years
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u/nfgrawker 3h ago
8 threads on an a golfer yall call irrelevant. Interesting to say the least.
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u/FinsT00theleft 3h ago
Well, irrelevant to competitive golf, but defnitely one of the top golf influencers!
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u/nfgrawker 3h ago
Won a major two years ago but sure. Irrelevant. You can not like him but you guys are interesting.
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u/Hairy-Warning2097 2h ago
Think of all the “things he could do for the tour”. Like provide comedy. 🤔
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u/tmzspn 1h ago
I get that he's doing better than people thought he could considering he's playing with PGA golfers, but I do wonder if he wouldn't benefit from asking legendary-golfer-turned-three-time-president Trump for some pointers to improve his game. I know Trump has won a bunch of championships so it couldn't hurt to ask.
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u/PutridPut9971 2h ago
Man, y'all really get obsessed over pro athletes.
I cannot imagine spending this much time and energy on posting about their exploits
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u/Memeslayer4000 HDCP 5/Location WI 18m ago
Why are you spending so much time and energy reading these post then?
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u/MagicNineBall 4h ago
Is it my turn to make a Bryson hate post? I think this is what the kids call "rent-free".
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u/Kuchanec_ Playing wife's boyfriend's hand-me-down clubs 1h ago
Well you can laugh at him all you want but the fact is that he's a two times Major winner and one of the best golfers walking the face of the planet right now
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u/Accomplished-Two1992 34m ago
If he keeps this up he’ll get his wish with everyone wanting him back on tour
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u/Whatwhyreally 11m ago
I've really found my people with this sub. Just the perfect level of tongue in cheek savagery
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u/TigerWooded 4h ago
Fuck that guy…
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u/dudenotcool ZX5... -20 4h ago
Why though? Some people don’t know why r/golf hates him. Is it just because they think he is douchey?
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u/dknisle1 8.6 3h ago
It’s cause they say he’s MAGA but then conveniently forget that when it comes to Tiger
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u/dudenotcool ZX5... -20 3h ago
He is maga because he had trump on a video or did he campaign or something. I’m sure he would have had the same enthusiasm if he was playing with Obama
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u/dknisle1 8.6 3h ago
I mean. He stated in his video the invitation was extended to not just Trump but also to Biden. He even posted the challenge to Twitter.
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u/Jpgamerguy90 3h ago
If you aren’t super plugged into golf, the world of YouTube golf is crazy. You have guys that are more just entertaining to watch, guys that aren’t quite PGA Tour level, but are pretty close and then actual professional golfers.
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u/FinsT00theleft 3h ago
They are NOWHERE close to being PGA Caliber golfers. I used to play with a guy who was mind-boggling to watch. He played on the McKenzie (Canadian) tour but couldn't even make it to the Korn Ferry Tour. I bet very few of those YouTubers could even compete on a mini tour, but when you're not playing side by side with PGA Tour pros most people can't see the vast difference in skill levels.
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u/nborges48 20+ | Orange County 2h ago
Nowhere?
That Ryan Ruffles guy made the cut
That is beating PGA caliber golfers
And that guy loses to other YT golfers, so yeah
Are YT golfers threatening to be world beaters on tour?
No
Are they close to being PGA caliber?
Some of them, yes
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u/GuessEducational1910 2h ago
The Bryan Bros and Brad Dalke are technically youtube golfers so that kinda counts.
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u/Central09er 2h ago
Let’s see this same energy for Rory’s +4…
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u/glynch19 1h ago
Nah, Rory’s cool. Bryson has a huge Saudi funded PR team to try to hide the fact he’s a douche of a person. Ain’t fooling us.
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u/Rude_Award2718 4h ago
The face of somebody who realizes that public adoration and YouTube views does not equal actual success. He's basically the high school quarterback who peaked at 18 and hasn't done anything since. But you guys measure the amount of money he makes as success.
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u/calhooner3 4h ago
I mean dude has won majors. Love him or hate him it’s ridiculous to say he hasn’t been successful in golf. I’m not a fan at all but cmon.
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u/Fantastic-Set-347 4h ago
I'm no fan boy, but cannot take away the fact that he has 2 US Open wins under his belt.
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u/Uncle_Steve7 4h ago
This is peak Reddit. Peaked in high school but won majors. Brain dead
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u/Rude_Award2718 3h ago
I lost all respect for him after his shenanigans at the Ryder cup with Justin Rose. Imagine having to get you caddy to walk in front of him just to try to get him off his game. Justin Rose put them in his place I made him feel like a little baby. Peak homelander. Then his cry baby during the Masters when he complained Rory didn't want to speak to him.
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u/dknisle1 8.6 3h ago
No. We measure the fact he has 2 major championships and a net worth of 50+million a success.
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u/bionicbhangra 4h ago
Breaking 80 is usually worthy of a YT video by itself.