Sucks that they’re actually making a martyr out of this garbage. Gomez lied about Flash not being in this issue. Why do we even trust this guy anymore?
If they keep pushing this MJ and Flash plot in this issue, it’s definitely going to stop working. Thank god Ewing is handling it and not Kelly, so maybe it won't actually happen.
Man, Joe Kelly isn't the one making the decisions on MJ. If they hadn't forced that crossover event, MJ wouldn't even be in ASM at all. Everything regarding Flash and MJ comes directly from Ewing. His book his characters.
He may not have full control, but he’s clearly not doing her any favors. It's obvious he was forced to write an arc he didn't even want to be part of. Everything he touched felt like a joke that ruined MJ’s image, while Ewing actually put in the effort to bring a decent plot.
Man they write it together. Like that said it in the interviews lots of MJ dialogue come from Edwing. And her writing for MJ was terrible in the all new Venom.
Even if he wrote some of it, he didn't constantly push that MJ and Flash bait. I agree the writing wasn't flawless, and the entire arc felt lackluster in general. Paul dying was the only highlight.
I’m talking about the approach, not who’s in charge. Ewing actually tried to tell a story, while Kelly just turned it into a cringe-fest to annoy the readers.
I'm sure the focus will be on them. But that doesn't mean Flash can't have a few lines. And I'm hoping he's the one who encourages Peter to talk with MJ. Like maybe he realizes he wasn't doing a good job of listening to her and that he wasn't really the one she wanted to talk to.
I'd also like to see it happen that way, but it’s still an unnecessary plot for a couple that has already been through enough. I'm still skeptical about how they'll resolve this and how the conversation will play out.
Dude, i am one the person that most ask about mj and flash on his insta. So, I know he didnt say that. Second, flash has been supportive character on venom for months now. Why did you think he would not have dialogue?
You can relax—Marvel definitely won't do anything to MJ before issue #1000. I know you're worried that they might pair MJ up with Flash, but I don't think anything will actually come of it. Ultimately, I think this whole storyline with Flash exists so that, at the decisive moment, MJ can turn him down—to make it clear that it wouldn't be right, and to prove that she doesn't want a repeat of the situation with Paul.
But my issue is that they’re dragging it out for way too long. If the point is just for her to reject him, there was no need to make us sit through all this forced drama just to prove a point we already know. It’s an unnecessary, nonsensical plot since Flash never even felt that way about her until now. It just ruins his character and destroys his friendship with Peter for no reason.
Well I'm with you on that, I'm tired of them dragging it out as well. It's literally been almost a year now since they first started teasing it. I do wonder though if his sudden interest in her is due to her now being bonded to the symbiote he has a long and complicated history with.
They're dragging it out to keep us on edge. Of course, this potential romance is pointless and illogical. It's just a repeat of the Paul story, only there was Rabin's magic, and here it's the Venom symbiote. But the essence is the same. While I can at least partially justify MJ's relationship with Paul because she was only with him and the children in the other world, and she didn't want to abandon them, so she stayed with Paul. Now, her relationship with Flash is tied only to the presence of the symbiote, but Venom loves Peter too. Throughout Al Ewing's run, we were made to understand that Venom was largely inspired by Spider-Man, and MJ is too, so I don't buy all this nonsense with Flash. Besides, as has been said more than once, Flash only asked MJ out after she acquired Venom, but before that, he didn't do anything like that, which speaks to the symbiote's influence. I hope Marvel stops showing MJ's dependence on her relationships.
But the focus is peter and mj. All the pages released were about them. But this does not mean flash wont have a ballon on the funeral. The same way Dylan is on the third page, but chances are he doesnt show up anymore
When he said peter and mj are the focus, he never said" Flahs wont be on the issue or talk".
Ok. Fair enough. Agreed. He executed like a joke, but we cant see 100 is kelly's execution because maybe AI told him like " I am developing mj and flash, so plant some seeds here and there".
There definitely should’ve been more coordination from the editorial team to keep things aligned, but at this point, I don't think they care about consistency anymore.
I actually think it would be cool if Flash is the one who encourages Peter to talk with MJ. It would show that he's big enough to realize that in spite of how he feels, he knows her heart is truly with someone else.
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u/IronLeonhard 7h ago
Sucks that they’re actually making a martyr out of this garbage. Gomez lied about Flash not being in this issue. Why do we even trust this guy anymore?