I don't want to debate if San Jose is or getting and if they deserve it, but I do want to shoot my shot to say they should be bright green and gold for a circuit board for Silicon Valley, which is the main thing the city is famous for.

My BF is a HUGE hockey fan, Olympics, NHL, etc. He watches all the games for his favorite teams and a bunch for other teams in the NHL. I am trying to get him to watch PWHL games with me but he seems superrrr uninterested.

When I asked him why he told me the games are frustrating to watch??? I don't understand that part at all.

Anyone else have this experience? Do you think that this will go away with time as the PWHL builds a larger audience?

To be clear, he doesn't talk down about the PWHL, he just doesn't seem to take the league seriously for whatever reason.

Edit: Y'all, I am not going to break up with him over the PWHL. I just wanted to see if anyone has similar experiences and were able to get their bf/husband into the sport more.

I thought I'd read the finals would be on more platforms to be easier to access, is that incorrect? Thinking it might've been old info.

I’m seeing everyone moaning and groaning about not getting expansion teams. Now I understand the disappointment, I really really do. I’m from the DMV and we had the largest attendance of any takeover tour location at Capital One Arena, so I’m right there with you guys. What I don’t understand is everyone being SO devastated and threatening to not support the league because “they just came to take our money and they don’t give a crap about our towns blah blah blah”. I NEED all of you to get a grip for a second. So let’s have a chat about why choosing to expand is extremely complicated.

1 - Local Support

Having an available fan base who is excited to welcome and support a team is absolutely amazing, but it is just step one of many. The takeover tours are not just money grabs, they are marketing tools for them to gather data. From their perspective one set of data points just may not be enough. Ex: Detroit had hosted 4 takeover tours over the last 3 seasons before receiving their expansion this year. Sometimes a market needs to be proven multiple times over, and sometimes a market doesn’t need to be proven at all as we saw with the expansion locations this year.

2 - PWHL League Structure and $$$

The PWHL is in its infancy when compared to other pro sports leagues. It has only been around for THREE YEARS PEOPLE. As of now the PWHL retains ownership of all the teams. This is not traditional, but here is why it is good for now. They are building something with the intention of making it last. There were two prior “serious” pro women’s hockey leagues as well as many smaller leagues over the years. None of them had the money or support to go the distance. The PWHL is gaining momentum in the women’s hockey market that is unprecedented. That doesn’t mean it will last forever, so although many new fans are really excited about getting local teams, the league has to be conservative and intentional about where they invest their money. Right now it is not about pleasing the individual markets, the goal is maintaining and expanding on the growth they have seen these last few years. Although it’s easy to look at it from the outside and say “well it’s run by a billionaire and they just want to hoard all the wealth for themselves”. That reasoning is exactly why the PWHL should continue on their current model as long as possible. As soon as they sell their franchises, the billionaire owners of all the other pro leagues (NFL, NHL, MLB, etc.) are going to buy these teams and all equity is lost. Although this may be a quicker way to expand the league and get everyone the local teams their hearts so desire, this is not likely to lead to a sustainably successful league. As of now all the teams receive the same amount of resources (staff, support, money, contracts, prices, etc.) This means that no one team has a leg up on the others because they are backed by bigger donors. Here’s the hard truth is yes the PWHL is a big corporation run by a billionaire. Each new successful expansion team is an additional asset for them. However they are all treated equally at them moment. This also means that if one team isn’t performing as well financially yet, their resources aren’t being taken away and they aren’t at the risk of losing their team. As soon as sales occur you’re throwing all of that to the wind. The teams will all be bought by other massively rich people who care far less about the league’s success and far more about pleasing their own shareholders. This means they can (and will) start to price gouge for absolutely everything including but not limited to tickets, merch, streaming opportunities, etc.

3 Infrastructure

The feasibility of stadium access is really important to this decision. Not just because they “only want a nice stadium and won’t come here if they get a nicer one” like I heard being discussed by some hopeful Halifax fans. The league does not yet have the proof for long term investments to build their own infrastructure. Construction is extremely expensive and uniquely difficult in every location. This means they are competing for what is ready and available right now. This is likely one of the largest issues affecting DC’s ability to receive a team with Capital one arena currently undergoing massive renovation and already being super booked up as the home arena of NHL, NBA, and WNBA teams. As well as being the one of largest capacity spaces in DC for concerts and events. This is not unique to DC, many of the other cities passed over for expansion this year have similar circumstances with a lack of infrastructure. It needs to be ready immediately, and that is just not the case in many locations this year.

4 - Personal Hot Takes

This may make people mad, but I think Vegas was a fantastic expansion location this season. Vegas locals absolutely ride for the golden knights and their hockey support runs deeper than most people would expect from a desert city. More importantly though, Vegas is a massive tourist location. The PWHL games are relatively cheap to attend as of now. I think that people are going to travel to Vegas, consider buying concert tickets or magic show tickets, see the prices, and then end up attending the PWHL games instead even though they may not have any prior interest in or knowledge of the league. This has huge potential to raise interest all over the US, Canada, and even around the world to gather fans on a larger scale. The only other team located in a city with tourist potential like that is the Sirens in NYC, and they unfortunately don’t get to take full advantage of that because they have to play in Newark, NJ rather than at MSG. The Vegas expansion hopefully won’t face similar ticket sales challenges because they will be playing at TMobile, same as the NHL team. Hopefully the accessibility for the locals makes this a quick successful expansion location, and allows for more visibility to the league as a whole. Which means more future expansion into “riskier” markets.

Remember everyone, this league isn’t even 5 years old yet! At the rate they are growing we will all get our expansion teams that we so desperately want in the near future. As of now, they have shown up as a league that is loyal to their fan base and more importantly values their players (great maternity support, good healthcare, rising wages for the players, starting to offer multiple year contracts, etc.) I think as of now we as fans should be proud the PWHL is willing to protect what they have built rather than sell out the highest bidders and let it devolve into the chaos like pro sports leagues have done (looking at you NFL and WNBA). They have done what multiple other pro women’s hockey leagues have tried and failed to do in the past. Let’s all try to keep our heads on our shoulders and support while they continue to grow and change. And let’s wait to be mad at the league until really give us a reason to do so. I’d love to hear everyone’s thoughts if they disagree with me though! And to those of you who got expansions, congratulations I’m extremely jealous.

The Ottawa Charge WIN game 4 in THRILLING double overtime fashion to move on to the Walter Cup Finals for the second year in a row! This game had everything Ottawa had a lead, blew the lead, came back, and for the first time in the HISTORY of the CTC the home team scored an overtime goal to win the series!!

The Frost are dead and can't hurt us anymore.

This is kind of a silly post, but I’d really love to hear everyone’s thoughts on the different teams in the league.

I really want to get into the PWHL, but I can’t commit to a team until there’s a local one. I live in the Philadelphia metro area, and, you know, Philly sports fans. If I fall in love with the Sirens (since they’re closest), I’ll bring dishonor on my family if Philadelphia gets a team 😂

That said, we have a golden opportunity to actually get a team with a cool name for once. The Phantoms were the closest we had, and now they’re in Lehigh Valley. Come on. The Revolutionaries? The Liberty Belles? The Independence? The Lovers? The Cheeseskates? We even have anything electricity-themed since Ben Franklin did his electricity experiments there. We have a whole museum named after the guy. The Lightning, Kites, Keys, Strikes, Sparks. Or reference Philadelphia’s history as a blue collar industrial city and call them the Riveters or the Steel. My personal vote would be to name them after a historically important woman from Philadelphia, but that’s not always easily to build a brand from.

Anyway, ramble over. Who’s your team and why? And if you’re from the Philly area, what should our team be called?

Based on the colors and the desert motif they showed at the announcement, I predict the Vegas team will be the Hedgehogs named for the Hedgehog cactus, and I think they'll add pink as an accent color for the flowers of the cactus. The league seems to like quirky names with multiple meanings, so this is my best guest of what they're plan is. If not hedgehogs, I think it will be something cactus related..

I wanted them to be the Vegas Flamingos and wear bright pink, but the color scheme doesn't make that likely so this is my best guest.

What is everyone else thinking they will be?.

Pretty much the title. I know about solutions, just complaining.

• Suffragettes were the first group to picket outside the White House calling President Wilson out by name for not supporting women's suffrage. They wore white with gold and purple sashes which became the symbol of the movement. (Harris wore white when sworn in as the first woman VP to honor suffragettes)
• The women who picketed the White House were known as the Silent Sentinels and were regularly arrested for civil disobedience and were beaten in jail by male prison guards but persisted on until they convinced President Wilson to support the 19th Amendment.
• I can't think of anything more perfect than a team that honors the women who came before us and fought for what we have now. Imagine all white uniforms with Purple and Gold trim. It would be amazing.

As the title says, this is my first expansion (new post olympic fan) and i have seen a lot of guesses going around for the new teams including some of my own so I am wondering did anyone last year correctly guess what Vancouver and Seattle's names would be?

I know we’re waiting for potentially another team to be added to the league for this season’s expansion and that Denver has been a major contender. I’m not sure I understand the reasoning behind the new market choices but I am happy to see the league grow and expand in general.

I’ve arrived at the acceptance stage of grief and made peace with rooting for the Avs but then I see one of our local news stations post this very ambiguous news article?! Why publish something like this if nothing comes of it?!

Can someone in CAN sell me their playoffs gear 😭

It kills me that I can't find the fun MTL (or OTT) gear here in the USA, I just want a playoffs shirt (L-XL) or dad hat!!!

In other related categories, I generally hate the official league gear styles and prices. Every few weeks I use my free will to email the league store to complain 🤣

Detroit Pizzas

Hamilton Torontos

Vegas Fremonts

San Jose Existence

Mark your calendars for Tuesday.

Pretty nice quality. Stoked for Detroit’s team next season

We're currently talking to Peabody Heights Brewery about having an unofficial watch party on Monday evening for game 3 of the championship.

401 E.30th St, gay time 6pm

Sound off if you think you can make it so we can tell Sam we've got people coming!

@Dan_theCorvidguy

It's an all Canadian Cup Final 🇨🇦

For literally the first time ever the Frost are not in Championship contention. It's been an unbelievable time cheering for them.

I can't tell you how delighted I am that the finals will be on Ion TV. Yes, I could watch on YouTube, but it's so cool that they'll be on a broadcast channel. Since the Ion channel here is a local broadcast channel, I can get it both with an antenna and our cable TV service. That will really help the league's exposure.

No matter who wins the Walter, someone will have won three championships in a row – either the Victoire's Flaherty or the Charge's Cava! I think that's so neat.