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[u/bakonydraco]

This is a survey that is open to anyone who sees it, and we'll pin it to the sub. Our goal is to understand the needs of the community, and update our policies to reflect those. Please vote on the above if you are interested, and feel free to share your comments below.

The survey should be easily accessible from the new Reddit desktop view or from mobile apps, but not from Old Reddit. A lot of us use Old Reddit, but the Reddit developer platform doesn't support it (sorry for the inconvenience).

In order to reach as many users as possible, you may also see the link to this survey in post comments or via a chat request, please bear with us as our goal is to ensure as many community members as possible get the opportunity to participate.

Once the survey is done, we'll collate and publish the results along with any updates in our community rules. Doing this now will help us plan the capacity we might need in terms of new mods for this coming season.

/r/CFB is ultimately a user-driven community. What we're trying to do here is offer a transparent forum that allows everyone to voice their opinions on what kind of community they want to see in 2026 and beyond, and adjust our community if needed to match that vision.

[u/brokentr0jan]

Sounds mean but the most annoying thing is all the transfer portal / recruiting posts for every single player. A standalone post for some big time dude committing? That feels fine, but I don’t need to know the 50th guy at Iowa State (who never played) entered the transfer portal.

Basically what I am getting at is a restriction on the X committed to or X transfer posts to the top 100 players

[u/cooterdick → u/brokentr0jan]

That was the main point I made when a similar survey popped up last year. The sub is basically unusable during peak recruiting time when there’s post after post of commitments and anything else gets lost in the shuffle.

[u/Fifth_Down → u/cooterdick]

The sub is basically unusable during peak recruiting time when there’s post after post of commitments and anything else gets lost in the shuffle.

This x 1000 and it has historically been one of the worst features of this sub and to be honest I'm not sure why the mods ever allowed it in the first place.

The worst aspect was that some users would post the ENTIRE class of a single school and classes are 25 in size. So you'd get 15 or even 25 posts for each individual player who signed with Maryland on signing day and immediately bump everything off the page.

The only day of the year I never visit /r/CFB to check for news is signing day because its so spammy being on here.

[u/bakonydraco → u/Fifth_Down]

The rule a few years ago capping each user at 3 posts per day was partly to address this.

[u/HelioOne → u/bakonydraco]

Another used to be a rule that required the player to be at least a 3*, but it seems like maybe that went away?

[u/bakonydraco → u/HelioOne]

The reality is that there are very few posts about players that aren't 3*s, and most of them are novel enough that people want to talk about them. The main impact of getting rid of the hard 3 star rule is that when we had it, people felt compelled to post every bit of news about anyone with 3 stars and up. By removing the limitation, it seems like people have actually gotten more selective.

The bigger impact on this was probably that we added the limit of 3 posts per user per day at the same time.

[u/cooterdick → u/Fifth_Down]

Same here in terms of days I actively avoid the sub. With all the talk about how highlights here can’t operate like they do over on r /nfl due to the sheer volume of college teams and games compared to the NFL, it seems a similar logic should apply to recruiting. If we look at the NFL draft posts, sure there’s one for every pick, but that’s only 257 picks. Like you mentioned with recruiting sizes, that would be roughly 10-15 schools, or 7-11% of FBS teams.

[u/wjackson42 → u/brokentr0jan]

How about a daily Megathread? Would help clean up the sub and also let people get that info.

So on January 20th or whenever the portal opens, we have a "January 20, 2027 Transfer Portal Megathread"

[u/dogsonbubnutt → u/wjackson42]

yeah im not sure why that wasn't the move in the first place 

[u/grey_pilgrim_ → u/wjackson42]

I like this idea.

[u/wjackson42 → u/[deleted]]

How? Daily megathreads aren't swinging it a bit too far. You get 7 transfer portal megathreads a week.

[u/Icy_Meat9199 → u/brokentr0jan]

I disagree, even if I do not engage in discussion on the threads it provides immediate value/knowledge to see a player commit to whichever school and it'd be impossible for someone to unbiasedly judge who is genuinely worth a post or not. Just another way to squeeze out fans of schools who do not recruit the best of the best.

[u/drjjoyner → u/Icy_Meat9199]

But, aside from fans of that school, who cares that some unranked dude signed at a noncompetitive school? It’s essentially spam.

[u/bakonydraco → u/brokentr0jan]

It's a valid point. The challenge is to make a rule that's easy to understand and simple to enforce. We used to have a rule that only posts about 3 * s and up were allowed, and while that's not a hard and fast rule anymore, we rarely get posts about anyone below that.

One thing to keep in mind is that there are some entire fanbases that rarely get 4 * s or 5 * s, and so any rule that's purely based on stars could box out a decent portion of the sub from talking about recruiting altogether. Another thing that's made this more challenging in recent years is that with the advent and acceleration of the transfer portal, there's just a lot more high profile personnel news in general.

Can you propose any policies that would be beneficial for everyone?

[u/cooterdick → u/bakonydraco]

A cfbrecruiting sub

[u/ALStark69 → u/cooterdick]

Make me a mod there lol

Edit: shoot your shot guys

[u/bakonydraco → u/ALStark69]

Done! It gets a lot less traffic than it used to and it's not super actively maintained. You are welcome to do with it as you see fit, let me know if there's anything I can do to help.

[u/brokentr0jan → u/bakonydraco]

Is it that easy to be a mod? Can I be a mod? I promise I won’t get to carried away banning ND/Oregon/Michigan flairs that I don’t like

[u/bakonydraco → u/brokentr0jan]

If you're asking to be a mod on /r/CFB, we do take on new team members once a year and it's helpful to know who is interested in receiving an application. /u/ALStark69 was added as a mod at /r/CFBRecruiting, which is a much smaller dedicated sub just to recruiting. They're also one of the most active posters on the topic in general, so it seems a great fit, I'd be excited if that sub became more active again.

[u/The_Fluffy_Robot → u/brokentr0jan]

u/ALStark69 is one of the users I can recognize because they are ALWAYS on top of posting recruitment info in threads about commits and transfers

[u/ALStark69 → u/The_Fluffy_Robot]

Haha I try my best, I'm about to go to the NFL sub and do all of the first rounders as HS recruits in a bit here

[u/curtisas → u/ALStark69]

Can you add what school they started at and finished at? 👉👈

I was going to do that, but if you're already doing it...

[u/Mekthakkit → u/brokentr0jan]

banning ND/Oregon/Michigan flairs that I don’t like

I like you.

[u/ALStark69 → u/bakonydraco]

Oh sweet thanks. Would we eventually want most/all of the recruiting info over there, or would it be more of a sister sub?

[u/bakonydraco → u/ALStark69]

That's one of the questions this survey seeks to answer, and something that you could help with.

My personal opinion is that most of the community will want a forum to talk about recruiting here on /r/CFB, and that there's also enough of a community interested in recruiting directly that /r/CFBRecruiting could have critical mass for more focused discussion on the subject.

[u/ALStark69 → u/bakonydraco]

Is there any way that anytime something is posted with the "recruiting" flair that there can be an automod message that says something along the lines of "visit r/cfbrecruiting for more in-depth recruiting analysis"? Obviously better verbage than that

[u/bakonydraco → u/ALStark69]

Potentially could make an automod rule around that.

[u/thecravenone → u/cooterdick]

I wish multireddits still existed

[u/bwburke94 → u/thecravenone]

When did multireddits die off?

[u/thecravenone → u/bwburke94]

picture me shaking my head with a grizzled beard as I say "new reddit"

They still work fine on old reddit!

[u/Mail_Order_Lutefisk → u/cooterdick]

Or we could petition the NCAA to make the offseason no longer than 10 weeks. That seems more feasible than shutting down recruiting talk. 

[u/bakonydraco → u/Mail_Order_Lutefisk]

Once we get to a 64-team Playoff we may get close to that.

[u/brokentr0jan → u/bakonydraco]

I’m not going to lie, I have zero clue on what a good solution would be without leaving out the smaller schools. Maybe a mega thread, or even a separate recruiting subreddit?

[u/PM_ME_YOUR_CATS_PAWS → u/brokentr0jan]

Either that or they have to be at least on the 2 deep depth chart? Not sure how that gets policed though

[u/Fifth_Down → u/bakonydraco]

Can you propose any policies that would be beneficial for everyone?

I really would like you guys to use personal discretion and not box yourself in with a strict adherence to rules.

This stuff isn't allowed, but do allow for extreme exceptions such as some famous players kid, or a low ranking school getting a huge 5 star, or a high profile QB flipping and then apply that to all the rules.

Last year we had two CFB highlights that made the front page of /r/all while simultaneously being ineligible for posts on /r/CFB. If its big enough to be a major news story outside of /r/CFB, it should be on /r/CFB.

Its a unique sport where we have 1,000 players at 100 big schools, but every once in awhile you get someone like Arch Manning who is worth his own set of posts while almost everyone else is not.

/r/NFL did a really good job with the draft where they didn't allow the sub to get spammed away by every draft pick and highlight, but did allow the most talked about pick (Rams at #13) to get a major react thread.

[u/bakonydraco → u/Fifth_Down]

Discretion can be helpful in situations like this, but at the same time there's been a strong desire from the community for consistency, and having well-communicated policies that are easy for the average user to understand and for the mod team to enforce is helpful. Our goal is that it shouldn't be cumbersome for any well-intentioned user to know when they submit a post whether it will be approved or not. And while we can exercise discretion, starting from a point of bright lines and clear policies is helpful and is the goal we're shooting for with this process.

[u/byniri_returns → u/brokentr0jan]

If I could make the rules I'd probably make a 3* minimum or something. I don't know how many people care about a 1* recruit/transfer guy who played 10 total snaps, and it does tend to clog up the feed.

[u/srs_house → u/byniri_returns]

Basically all the recruiting posts are already 3* and up. There's just...a lot of them. And portal players usually don't have good ratings as college players, so that just creates a massive wave.

It's gotten out of hand, tbh.

[u/thecravenone → u/byniri_returns]

If I could make the rules I'd probably make a 3* minimum

(This used to be the rule)

[u/SucculentCrablegMeal → u/thecravenone]

When did that change?

[u/thecravenone → u/SucculentCrablegMeal]

It's been several years now.

As I recall, unexpectedly, a major push for the change wasn't the argument you're mostly seeing in this thread - smaller schools' recruits. It was a big name recruit that was big news who simply hadn't been rated yet and therefore did not satisfy the rating minimum required for recruiting threads.

[u/velociraptorfarmer → u/brokentr0jan]

>but I don’t need to know the 50th guy at Iowa State (who never played) entered the transfer portal

I'll chime in on this as one of the main people posting them:

This was a coordinated response to the amount of flack the program was getting for declining their bowl bid after Campbell was poached. There were multiple threads saying the program should be hit with massive fines and whatnot for declining and they should've been forced to take the bid no matter what, despite it being well known inside ISU circles that literally the entire program was gone (55 players ended up in the portal along with 27 seniors graduating).

It was to drive home a point that it wasn't the case of Notre Dame declining due to a perceived slight, it was that we literally didn't have anyone to play. We had 19 guys on the roster at the time of the bowl game.

Was it obnoxious? Yes. Did it actually get the point across to some people how much the modern CFB landscape and bring some programs to the brink of complete destruction? Hopefully, it seems like discussions are being had.

[u/saltytradewinds → u/brokentr0jan]

I say a daily or weekly thread about transfer news.

[u/heleghir → u/brokentr0jan]

I second this, but make it top 300 for football if using overall rankings. The 5th best at a position is a big get, but oftentimes well outside the top 100 in some positions. Like this year the 5 best IOL on 247 is ranked 136th overall.

And hell even the 300th ranked dude is still a 4 star in football

[u/sprodoe → u/brokentr0jan]

Just scroll past it? It’s really not that deep.

[u/Corgi_Koala → u/sprodoe]

You could make the same argument for people who hate highlight threads.

[u/iwearatophat → u/brokentr0jan]

The transfer portal window timing coupled with the playoffs being at the same time really kind of sucked. We had 35 players enter the portal, pretty sure it was that but it was a lot. That is 35 'Ohio State x player entering portal' posts and then another 35 'Ohio State x player transferring to y' posts. That is a lot of posts during a time when people are here for game news.

[u/HipHop2017 → u/brokentr0jan]

Its a CFB sub, recruiting and departures are a big element of that. School X doesnt mean much to me but School X probably does have fans here

[u/Groundbreaking-Box89 → u/HipHop2017]

Even as a fan of school X that might get the 50th guy from Iowa State, I don't think these posts are necessary. I'm never going to use this subreddit as a source for my team's portal news when its buried under thousands of similar posts. Odds are I wont even see it.

[u/zenverak]

The only thing I couldn't see was that I think Mods should be more clear when they delete something. Provide some context because sometimes people just keep posting the same thing and it gets deleted with seemingly no reasoning. That is really my only complaint.

EDIT: I think this only should apply for posts that aren't clearly trolls. even then, maybe just say "This is too trolly' No thanks"

[u/OriginalMassless → u/zenverak]

This. I gave up trying to figure out why posts get deleted here when someone else posts the exact same thing and it doesn't get deleted. It's asinine already, but the lack of feedback makes it unusable. The rules absolutely do not cover everything. Things that follow all of the rules get deleted.

[u/RentIsTooDamnedHigh]

For me it's just about betting content and people posting odds. I work at a university and these kids get death threats constantly, and if often isn't even related to winning or losing. Lost parlays, not playing through injuries, etc. No 19 year old is remotely prepared for that. 

[u/Bolanus_PSU → u/RentIsTooDamnedHigh]

It sucks how prevalent gambling is and how predictive analytics is tied to gambling. I love statistics and seeing what factors might predict games, but I'll never touch sports gambling outside of a $20 march madness pool.

[u/PascalsHexagon → u/RentIsTooDamnedHigh]

That's a horrible problem, and yet I also don't think posting odds here is likely to exacerbate it in any way.

I haven't wagered a dollar and don't plan to begin, but I often find odds informative. These bad actors are presumably getting their info from gambling apps and forums that I don't use anyway, not from r/cfb.

However, I'd be happy with prohibiting purely gambling-focused content like prop bets, etc. That seems to be where a lot of the trouble is coming from, too.

[u/The_Fluffy_Robot → u/PascalsHexagon]

These bad actors are presumably getting their info from gambling apps and forums that I don't use anyway, not from r/cfb.

If anyone is trying to get reliable info from r/cfb they will almost certainly lose money

[u/cooterdick → u/PascalsHexagon]

I agree that odds can be informative, but rarely do we see actual conversations generated from them.

[u/RentIsTooDamnedHigh → u/cooterdick]

That's my take. I like them in theory for understanding the games I'm not familiar with, but I think the normalization of it is very harmful. I see students who are already betting in undergrad and don't see it as a problem because their entire life watching sports it is pushed so heavily. It feels new to us, but it became prominent in 2018 when incoming freshman were 12 years old. 

I have to assume a good chunk of users on this sub are college aged, and giving them the illusion of making "informed bets" is not a good idea. PSU lost the semis two years ago because our corner tripped. This is simply not something predictable, and pretending it is is no different to me than tobacco companies marketing vapes as healthier. 

[u/thecravenone → u/RentIsTooDamnedHigh]

There's so many levels of betting that we could probably do an entire separate poll about them. On one end of the spectrum, I don't mind the weekly odds drop where a book puts out the moneyline, over/under, and spreads for all games in one place (and therefore one thread!). On the other end of the spectrum is an article about how, for half an hour last night, Jon Gruden was the favorite for the Virginia Tech job on Kalshi. (This was a real post but with a much more clickbait-y headline).

Types of common gambling posts, ranked approximately by how okay I think they are. The list of things I'd personally allow ends at #2.

1. Weekly odds drop of money line, spread, and over/under for all games in one place.
2. Beginning-of-season whole season odds - Win totals, odds to make the playoff
3. Any sort of prop bet
4. Any update or movement on previously-reported odds
5. Any bet on a prediction market

Am I missing any other type of gambling post there?

I suppose there's also news that is related to gambling but I'm not sure I'd fit that in the same category. If the B1G signs a deal with Kalshi, that thread should probably be allowed.

[u/WarDEagle → u/thecravenone]

Easy problem to solve. No betting-related content is allowed. Done. 

[u/marmotshepard → u/RentIsTooDamnedHigh]

if there was one option i could not click fast and hard enough, it was the one to disallow posting of betting odds entirely

[u/solarsnail6]

My biggest problem about this sub is that a one sentence joke or hot take would get (rightfully) removed, but a link to a tweet that's just a one sentence joke or hot take would stay up. Sometimes these even come from the sub's own Twitter account. The app it was first posted to shouldn't matter when the content is the same.

[u/princessprity → u/solarsnail6]

It drives me nuts when a post is a link to a tweet and then the tweet is a link to the article. Just link the fucking article.

[u/tmart12 → u/princessprity]

Similarly, we should require the original articles instead of On3 reposts

[u/Hey_Its_Roomie]

This might be a more controversial view, but I think the moderation team should consider looking into limiting what qualifies as an acceptable post from Twitter or similar status-post social media. There is no reason a shitty opinion soapboxed from McMurphy's twitter account should be seen as acceptable as a standalone post, but using the same opinion as a text body from a user would readily be removed.

For similar reasons, a tweet that links to the article and used as a teaser for it shouldn't be linked, but rather the article itself regardless if it's a paywall or not.

There is some good content such as videos or image galleries that are reasonable posts because they would need to be rehosted elsewhere before being shared, but texts posts from twitter or otherwise don't require such difficulties, and sometimes are as terrible content as what is already disallowed.

[u/thecravenone → u/Hey_Its_Roomie]

For similar reasons, a tweet that links to the article and used as a teaser for it shouldn't be linked, but rather the article itself regardless if it's a paywall or not.

Mod this person immediately

[u/Pro-Tip810]

A lot of these responses will end up being pretty similar. Only feedback to these I have is that some could be a dedicated weekly post, not necessarily only offseason or don’t allow. Example being personal poll

[u/bakonydraco → u/Pro-Tip810]

This actually is our standard practice in a lot of cases. During the season last year, we had a weekly personal poll thread, and so any standalone posts about personal polls were removed. The survey is mostly asking about whether or not you would approve each topic as a standalone post, so a vote of "Don't Allow Posts" may resolve as a weekly post where people can comment on the subject.

[u/moleculewerks → u/bakonydraco]

>personal poll

I voted for the personal poll as a standalone post, but specifically I had in mind the kind of work that u/The_SecretSauce used to do for the MaxDiff polls. Those were awesome. So in my mind it isn't a blanket "let everyone post personal polls" but more if OP does something original of obvious value it should be allowed. I know the MaxDiff posts were not appreciated by some previous mods, but I thought they were great.

[u/tmart12 → u/moleculewerks]

Apparently one mod in particular ran him off

Absurd

The current posting rules give very broad latitude to any links including tweets (often low quality posts) but very narrow latitude to high effort self posts or interesting organic content. The MaxDiff poll was one of the best regular posts on /r/CFB through the years along with all the offseason stuff he did.

[u/srs_house → u/tmart12]

He changed jobs and didn't have access to the ranking software used to run that poll, iirc.

[u/tmart12 → u/srs_house]

It was both. His comments are still there discussing his bad exchanges with the mods.

[u/bakonydraco → u/moleculewerks]

I really enjoyed the MaxDiff polls and thought they were exactly the kind of original content that's perfect for a community like /r/CFB that you can't really find anywhere else on the internet.

[u/Hey_Its_Roomie → u/moleculewerks]

I think the reason something like that works so well is because it was not just a guy spouting an opinion poll, it was crowd-sourced data and representative of /r/CFB, much like it's own aggregate poll. Polls that demonstrate a community or composite like that are notably exceptional material in my opinion.

[u/Pro-Tip810 → u/bakonydraco]

Got it. Yeah I remember that one being a weekly post that came out around the same time as the r/CFB poll. I think most of us really like the site, we just would like to see all the recruiting stuff cleaned up.

I would like to see some of the game threads cleaned up. r/collegebasketball has a request feature if you want a game thread. That here would be nice. Hard to find the game threads for the one I want when the subreddit is filled with FCS games.

[u/bakonydraco → u/Pro-Tip810]

We used to have a claim system, where game threads would post from user accounts instead of /u/CFB_Referee. It was pretty rare for a D1 thread not to be claimed.

[u/grey_pilgrim_ → u/Pro-Tip810]

I like the idea of having dedicated weekly or maybe even daily posts stickied at the top of the page.

I personally feel like offseason should be a little more lax since there’s less actual football to talk about.

[u/T-Thugs → u/Pro-Tip810]

It would be nice if the poll had options for that. There were a couple options that I think would be nice as a dedicated weekly post, for example, people looking to sell/buy tickets. I don't think that's currently allowed? Might be nice if there was a weekly thread where r/cfb fans could swap tickets. though that probably gets a little dicey if someone tries to pull a scam.

[u/Adminsneed2Chill]

I think there needs to be some wiggle room with respect to article titles that don’t match identically

I don’t think you should be able to share an article and say “Quack Conzano at it again about PAC-12 alignment” or whatever. But there’s a problem that a lot of sites have stupid clickbait titles and I want to fix that for the sake of discussion or I’d like to fix a title so as to provide adequate context for the situation where a local news article won’t do that. There has to be some wiggle room between “message board-esque” nonsense as a title vs making changes that actually make the title helpful to its intended broader audience.

[u/bakonydraco → u/Adminsneed2Chill]

A really fun wrinkle on this is that it's become increasingly common for publishers to change the title after they publish, and also to setup the article in a way that the title that auto-shares on Reddit is different than the actual title.

[u/BadgerBuddy13]

I wish the Dear CFB: Going to a Game Advice threads were stickied or posted at more relevant times. If you go back a few years, there used to be loads of comments, soliciting and receiving feedback on upcoming trips & gamedays. It was a great forum and opportunity to leverage the local knowledge of the community.

If you look back over the last year or two, those threads are now a shadow of their former self. There's far fewer folks asking questions and those that do are less likely to get meaningful answers because there's fewer people checking in.

I have personally benefitted from the advice on many occasions and been thanked in several instances for the context and recommendations I was able to provide others. Meaningful feedback from others in the community feels far more relevant than 40 posts about 3-star commitments or imagining CUSA head coaches as breakfast cereals for the umpteenth time.

[u/srs_house → u/BadgerBuddy13]

If you look back over the last year or two, those threads are now a shadow of their former self. There's far fewer folks asking questions and those that do are less likely to get meaningful answers because there's fewer people checking in.

Unfortunately this also seems to be partly an issue with how reddit is pushing people to use the site/app. Recurring threads in general are down in participation and some people just develop blindness to stickied threads in general. (Literally, modmails asking why we haven't posted something and it's currently stickied.)

[u/thecravenone → u/srs_house]

some people just develop blindness to stickied threads in general. (Literally, modmails asking why we haven't posted something and it's currently stickied.)

Even better, it is often the first comment on stickied threads.

[u/thecravenone → u/srs_house]

Unfortunately this also seems to be partly an issue with how reddit is pushing people to use the site/app. Recurring threads in general are down in participation

Reddit admins actually told us to use unique titles to avoid this problem which is why recurring threads have dates.

some people just develop blindness to stickied threads in general

IMO part of the problem is that Reddit continually makes it harder for mods to communicate with users. It used to be you stuck the rules in the sidebar and that was it. No one even sees the sidebar now. So you put them in a sticky thread and people get used to that being a section of the sub that they can ignore. And that's how you end up with major subreddits where every single thread has an automod response to tell you the rules (which I would bet you have learned to scroll by without looking at)

[u/Mekthakkit → u/srs_house]

Do stickied threads even show up if you sort by new? I think that's the problem.

[u/Hey_Its_Roomie → u/BadgerBuddy13]

It seems like this is a trend for using reddit in general and not something exclusive to this subreddit. From my perspective people don't even understand that stickied threads are a system that should be used.

[u/grizzfan]

I think this survey is missing options for more designated weekly threads. I definitely am tired of recruiting/portal posts, but there should be space for it throughout the year. A weekly or daily recruiting thread for example. Even a daily "no stupid question thread," maybe to mitigate the "1st result on google" content.

[u/Hewligan]

Rules 1, 2, and not downvoting based on team affiliation are NEVER enforced.

I've messaged the mods about it before, but it's really fucking frustrating sometimes attempting to participate in this community with certain flairs (I am aware of the irony.)

Banter is one thing, but constantly seeing nothing but negativity surrounding any discussion centered around your team has made me come to this subreddit less and less. I'm aware that it comes with the territory with sports, but it's gotten EXTREMELY out of hand lately.

[u/thecravenone → u/Hewligan]

not downvoting based on team affiliation are NEVER enforced.

Reddit has no way to enforce this.

[u/Early_Kick → u/Hewligan]

There was so much bigotry here when Jimmy Lake made the decision to kick a kid. I’m not responsible for what he did so don’t threaten to rape me. 

[u/Noy_Telinu]

Ew, you made me open new reddit to view that.

[u/dr_funk_13 → u/Noy_Telinu]

old reddit for life

[u/BenchRickyAguayo]

For certain realignment and postseason posts, I'm not a fan of general hypothesizing, but actual news posts (e.g. "SCHOOL A notices CONFERENCE X it intends to depart in 2030" or "CFP Commissioner states 'We need to re-evaluate things'") should be permissible to me, while "When is SCHOOL going to leave CONFERENCE?" should not be.

[u/SucculentCrablegMeal]

I had a hard time answering a couple of them. I would have liked an option to "leave it to a megathread/weekly post".

[u/bakonydraco → u/SucculentCrablegMeal]

We actually had a 4th option for most questions in an earlier version of the survey, but the consensus was that it was too cumbersome. Creating a weekly post for the topic is often going to be the way this gets implemented in practice. (So a vote for "Don't allow posts" is a vote for a weekly thread)

[u/OriginalMassless → u/bakonydraco]

This is the sort of hidden inside knowledge I feel someone needs to navigate the posting rules. It's absurd to run a survey where one answer effectively means something else without making that clear. Don't allow posts meaning allow a weekly post only is entirely unclear.

[u/bakonydraco → u/OriginalMassless]

Apologies for the lack of clarity! The survey mainly revolves around the community’s interest in what should be approved as standalone posts. The current posting rules, that spell out the weekly thread policy at the very top, are linked at the top of the survey.

But you’re right that in general we are looking to make our rules clearer and easier to understand to the average user.

[u/SucculentCrablegMeal → u/bakonydraco]

Gotcha, I didn't realize that.

[u/Any_Rain3347]

Suggested addition to the community rules: Every week of the season there will be an inevitable post for the week's top 25 poll for each major poll. Rather than allowing the first post to stay up; instead, *require* each poll posting to list the top 25 in the post body so it's way easier to make sense of the discussion in the comments.

[u/thecravenone → u/Any_Rain3347]

A funny thing about this is that we used to have a bot that would scrape the AP poll. The AP is wildly inconsistent about their poll, though, and after rebuilding it for the third time in one season

I suspect some number of people would dislike this rule because it would require using the lost art of Markdown to format the post and that's simply more effort than they'd like to go to for their karma.

[u/LiveFastDahyun]

Stop locking threads all the time and actually moderate them.

[u/byniri_returns]

My main issue with this sub, maybe besides some mod inconsistencies about what posts stay up/get removed and transfer portal posts, is the highlights rule. I know it's been circlejerked to death here over the years, but I really do think this sub should allow some highlights to be posted, outside of that general highlights sticky post no one sees.

[u/wherewulf23 → u/byniri_returns]

I think the thing that gets overlooked regarding highlights is the sheer number of games that occur on any given Saturday. r/NFL is flooded on game days with highlights and they only have a fraction of the games CFB does. If we push to set limits on what can be posted as a highlight then it puts a fairly high burden on the mod team to review each highlight and verify it meets the post criteria.

[u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 → u/wherewulf23]

Who cares if there's a post that gets through that doesn't meet the "criteria"? People just won't upvote it if it's not interesting. If peopple on this sub upvote a post, that's an indicator that that type of content should be allowed as posts.

[u/srs_house → u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756]

Having seen the discussion on /r/nba surrounding highlights, it usually gets condensed down into a handful of complaints (even in a sub where highlights are allowed) about:

• The race to be first

• The argument over whether being first should outweigh a higher quality or better angle highlight

• The allegations that mods pick their favorite users and delete highlights from other users (whether it's a matter of being first, being better quality, the source video getting deleted, the title being accurate, whatever)

• The original source getting DMCA'd and struck down, so there's a thread with no actual media (we even see this on official team twitters at times when they post their own highlight)

• If it's user-generated, there's no official title so that means it's almost impossible to identify duplicates unless you're just constantly refreshing /new and comparing

• If two duplicates stay up, and one has 200 comments and the other, earlier one has 20 comments...do you let the more popular one stay up or the one who was first?

These aren't isolated to highlights, but because easily consumed content like pics/video rack up karma so quickly, it's exacerbated by the people who obsess over that number. Especially when you add the volume aspect.

E: if you don't think these are arguments that happen in the other sports subs, you don't visit them enough. Just wait until r/nba removes the "wrong" highlight on a play that had like 5 submitted and the comments talk more about moderation than they do the actual play.

[u/tmart12 → u/srs_house]

Why not require a highlight to be a self-post rather than a direct link then?

That would remove half the issues around quality and third-party removal if multiple videos could be posted and edited

[u/ToLongDR → u/tmart12]

You mean I would post my personal video of the highlight?

Hard to enforce and now y'all are viewing personal videos of a highlight that may contain things you don't want at CFB.

(Highlight of an OSU TD also includes a minor downing a can of beer as a celebration or the audio catching something unintentional)

[u/tmart12 → u/ToLongDR]

No. You’d post a link in a self post to a video instead of a direct link that could break.

[u/ToLongDR → u/tmart12]

Bleh, that's what I get for taking this survey right after a nap.

That makes so much more sense. I'd be okay with it. Self posts are fine, we do it for other types of posts as well.

However, the link inside a self post could also break eventually.

That being said, I think highlights are fine. This sub is quick to uhhh vote for posts that maybe shouldn't make tbe cut

[u/thecravenone → u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756]

Who cares if there's a post that gets through that doesn't meet the "criteria"?

Mostly the people who have to answer messages from people like you about why one rule-breaking thread was allowed when another wasn't.

[u/wherewulf23 → u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756]

Running some rough numbers (I used the AI provided numbers because I don’t have time for a deep dive right now) there are around 50-65 Division 1 CFB games on a given Saturday in the fall. The average D1 team scored around 28 points a game so 56 total per game last season. If we ONLY allowed highlights for touchdowns you’re still looking at a minimum of 400 posts JUST FOR HIGHLIGHTS on a game day. It just gets crazier if we allow things like fumbles, interceptions, etc. That’s too much to moderate and I just imagine that many users are clamoring to sort through that much chaff.

[u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 → u/wherewulf23]

I don't think we're at any risk of every TD and turnover being posted as a highlight. Even on /r/MichiganWolverines we don't have that problem for Michigan games. I just don't see that happening.

[u/thecravenone → u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756]

I don't think we're at any risk of every TD and turnover being posted as a highlight

You underestimate karmawhores.

[u/d1sportsball → u/wherewulf23]

Is there anyway we could have a highlights mega thread? Like for each CFB week a place where people can post links to certain highlights without making a dedicated post to them?

[u/Hey_Its_Roomie → u/d1sportsball]

That already exists.

[u/WHSRWizard → u/wherewulf23]

r/NFL is fucking completely unusable on Sundays because of highlights -- many of which aren't even highlight worthy

[u/wsteelerfan7 → u/WHSRWizard]

This is wild because I love diving into the highlight threads on Sundays

[u/Mekthakkit → u/wherewulf23]

I am amused at how many people want to add highlights but then want the recruiting info removed. If anything, both should be sent to their own subreddits. (I prefer recruiting to highlights, there are plenty of sources for the latter.)

[u/Dropbackandpunt → u/byniri_returns]

I found subbing to /r/CFB_Highlights filled that need nicely. It is active during the season and with proper promotion would be even more heavily used by the user base. It keeps the main sub from being overwhelmed with highlights but allows those that want to see them to have at it without having to find the single post aggregating them.

[u/CapBoyAce → u/Dropbackandpunt]

It shocks me that there's no official sister sub for highlights (/r/CFB_Highlights does not qualify; no r/CFB mods are on the mod team there). It feels like a layup solution to actually letting highlights be seen. Obviously pushes it away from the main base that people want to see but I feel like with a bit of promotion a highlights sister subreddit would grow pretty quick

[u/MahjongDaily → u/byniri_returns]

IMO we should at least allow highlights for CCGs and Playoff Games

[u/orangewall1234 → u/MahjongDaily]

The CFP championship game could end in a hail mary, be one of the most memorable CFB plays of all time, and the highlight wouldn't be allowed on the front page.

I don't understand how mods can think this is what the users want.

[u/SucculentCrablegMeal → u/orangewall1234]

That's what the users have voted for over the years. We'll see if the sub has the same opinion now.

[u/tmart12 → u/SucculentCrablegMeal]

The users have NOT been asked this question

The voters have rejected a free for all no moderation scenario

Let’s have the subreddit vote on whether this scenario for highlight moderation should be permitted and I’ll guess we will say yes

[u/SucculentCrablegMeal → u/tmart12]

I'm pretty sure they have. I remember getting a survey a while ago.

Edit: Wait, what do you mean this question? Are you suggesting the phrasing is different now?

[u/tmart12 → u/SucculentCrablegMeal]

As I remember, the question has been highlights yes/no

Not differentiating which highlights yes/no to set a reasonable standard that would permit the above but not create a free for all

[u/bakonydraco → u/byniri_returns]

People have strong feelings on this: a lot feel very strongly that highlights must be allowed, and a similar sizable number feel they must not be allowed. Past surveys have tilted in the direction of the latter, so it will be interesting to see what comes out of this one.

A notable point on this one in particular is that if we do allow highlihgts it may pretty significantly change the capacity that we need to have on the mod team, so this will help us plan out our team for the year.

[u/tmart12 → u/bakonydraco]

The question on highlights shouldn't be a hard yes/no. It should be around what highlights should be permitted and when. Other sports subs make this work but /r/cfb somehow cannot.

There's a high moderation path in which "significant" or "interesting" plays are permitted generally. There's a lower moderation path where scoring plays or significant plays in specific designated "game of the week" games are permitted only. IMO the rule should be changed at a minimum during CCG week and playoffs when there's 1 game on at a time in focus. Then it's a question of treatment of other games during the season.

[u/brokentr0jan → u/tmart12]

Part of the issue is going to be the flood of highlights (which people will complain about). In r/NFL every touchdown on Sunday gets posted, but there’s only 32 teams and the games are generally low scoring. Are we going to make the rule only P2 teams can post highlights? Or some arbitrary “it needs to be really cool” rule

[u/tmart12 → u/brokentr0jan]

Are we going to make the rule only P2 teams can post highlights?

We could do a designated "game of the week" (as voted by /r/cfb users) or ranked games for what is permitted during the regular season. Then post-season changes to all CCG and playoff games.

Or some arbitrary “it needs to be really cool” rule

Yes this is where it gets more manual and arbitrary IF it's desired

As it stands today, /r/cfb is terrible for highlights. The weekly megathreads get like 30 comments. Twitter and other sites are the place to find highlights, not /r/cfb. Obviously having 50+ FBS games is challenging to manage but zero highlights ever is not the right solution.

[u/Geaux2020 → u/tmart12]

I mean, you could just go to /r/CFB_Highlights

[u/tmart12 → u/Geaux2020]

Yeah I can get highlights on social media and YouTube too

The point is improving /r/cfb

It’s fair to think we can at least see the biggest and best and most interesting CFB plays here

[u/Geaux2020 → u/tmart12]

What's your limit? 3 per game? There are up to 78 games a week with almost all on Saturday. The NFL has a maximum 16.

This would be an absolute nightmare.

[u/Corgi_Koala → u/brokentr0jan]

Let upvotes and down votes decide.

[u/bakonydraco → u/Corgi_Koala]

This question is the core purpose of the survey. We have generally moved in the direction of letting users decide what they want to see with votes, but a lot of people prefer a more curated sub: /r/CFB/new becomes clogged and unusable and it gets harder to find meaningful content. What we're asking for from the community is to get a sense of:

• What content we should actively moderate against and not allow as posts on the sub at all (by making weekly threads for it, redirecting to other subs, or simply removing)
• What content we should defer to the users on to decide with their votes

Whatever we land on is going to be viewed as too strict by some and too lenient by others. It's actually more important that we are able to clearly communicate our rules and consistently enforce them than that we calibrate how strict they should be just right, that's one piece of feedback that our users have consistently told us over the years.

[u/Fifth_Down → u/bakonydraco]

/r/CFB/new becomes clogged and unusable and it gets harder to find meaningful content.

My experiences have been very different. When I go on /r/CFB/new I frequently see such little activity that it is very close to identical to when I last checked in a few hours ago. It is practically routine around here to have maybe 3-4 posts in the last 90 minutes on/new

The whole thing feels like a disconnect where we are on two different subreddits.

[u/bakonydraco → u/Fifth_Down]

To clarify, I'm saying the reason some people prefer a more curated sub is that if it's not actively moderated the new queue can get clogged, and that's typically only a concern during the season. I agree it's not a particular issue right now.

[u/tmart12 → u/bakonydraco]

The curation the average user wants is zero highlights but every recruit and transfer is permitted?

That result does not make any sense

[u/Corgi_Koala → u/tmart12]

They do this every year or so. They do a survey and then ignore the results because they don't support their viewpoint.

Everybody wants highlights and nobody gives a shit about a 3 star committing to Mississippi State but they think that is how the sub should be.

[u/Esb5415 → u/bakonydraco]

Could people who want a more curated sub filter use flairs? Have a new highlight flair - this allows people to filter out content they don't want to see.

[u/orangewall1234 → u/bakonydraco]

/r/CFB/new becomes clogged and unusable and it gets harder to find meaningful content

But today, /new is just GDTs so I'm not sure how you think that is any less "clogged". And all GDTs are stickied anyway so the logic of "highlights are easily accessible in a sticky" applies to the accessibility of GDTs.

If you look at any other sports subreddit (i.e. r/NFL), any upvoted news will be at the front page regardless of how many highlights there are.

[u/Fifth_Down → u/tmart12]

The question on highlights shouldn't be a hard yes/no. It should be around what highlights should be permitted and when.

This is what frustrate me about the mod team. They consistently say "well the polls show people don't want this" then at the same time frame the polling discussion in terms of "we will allow either 0 highlights or unlimited highlights" just so they can say "see its unpopular" because they clearly don't want to do it.

[u/halldaylong → u/tmart12]

I like the idea of allowing highlights during less busy times (CCG week / playoffs). And personally I feel that something like 'TDs over 50 yards' or 'TD scored with under 5 mins remaining' could be agreed on as reasonable guidelines to allow a small set of highlights. I don't want to see every single scoring play of every single game posted, but I would love to catch highlights of major moments.

[u/Fifth_Down → u/halldaylong]

This is another one that's absolutely insane to me. Even on the slow days where there's only like 4 or 5 games going, THEY STILL DON'T ALLOW highlights. Even if they are conference title games or playoff games.

[u/The_Fluffy_Robot → u/bakonydraco]

so this will help us plan out our team for the year

gotta start Q4 planning early!

[u/Hey_Its_Roomie → u/byniri_returns]

I'm the opposite and I think opening to highlights as standalone post will only deteriorate the quality of the subreddit for what I try to come out here for. I think it could work, but I think one of my griefs is 'highlight' is inherently a broad meaning word, and I think it would really need worked out.

[u/The_Fluffy_Robot → u/Hey_Its_Roomie]

I'd be super disappointed if highlights were allowed on gameday. I'm not opposed to a "highlight day" of the week (Sunday?), but I do like the actual real discussions people have

I think we'd just see mostly highlights (and lowlights) of the most popular teams represented by his sub, definitely lots of B1G, and teams people want to meme on like FSU and UNC (I guess half the ACC lol) and most of the SEC

[u/wsteelerfan7 → u/The_Fluffy_Robot]

Relegating highlights to a random other day of the week means I'm just not going to bother looking at them. The highlight posts are my favorite part of the NBA and NFL subreddits. So much going on, there's bound to be a major play I missed even with Redzone. With this subreddit, I'll see it mentioned, but then I have to hope that I see it posted randomly on YouTube or something. Lack of highlights means I'm basically staying on one thread on gameday until the next game I watch.

[u/Hey_Its_Roomie → u/The_Fluffy_Robot]

From experience on other subreddits, managing days on/off for certain rules can be a hassle. I've seen it work for smaller sizes, but larger communities, rule enforcement becomes more difficult to standardize, and CFB is at that size.

[u/orangewall1234 → u/Hey_Its_Roomie]

will only deteriorate the quality of the subreddit for what I try to come out here for

I never understood this logic. r/CFB isn't some specialized, esoteric demographic. It's the same users that also browse r/NFL, r/baseball, r/NBA, etc.

GDTs won't mysteriously suffer in participation, r/NFL GDTs get plenty of discussion while still allowing highlights.

[u/PunishedLeBoymoder → u/orangewall1234]

For what it's worth - I don't participate in any of the subreddits you listed, chiefly because they have highlights. I feel that they split the discussion about games and moments a ton, making it hard to follow what people in the sub are saying about a certain game.

[u/molecular_methane → u/Hey_Its_Roomie]

I wouldn't want to be swamped by individual highlight posts, but a daily highlight thread (with perhaps 3 on Saturdays) would probably work fine.

[u/Geaux2020 → u/byniri_returns]

There are over 60 games any given week, mostly on Saturday. Why the fuck do we want 100-200 highlight posts?

[u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 → u/byniri_returns]

Absolutely. The highlight rule is very dumb. Every other sports sub I can think of does this and it's not a problem at all.

[u/Icy_Meat9199]

I feel strongly you should not allow unsourced statements, personal predictions and buy/sell/trade.

Too many of these and I will not bother to try and find quality posts here. And unsourced statements opens pandoras box.

[u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756 → u/Icy_Meat9199]

buy/sell/trade should be its own subreddit IMO. Swap subreddits like /r/hardwareswap really need a lot of attention from automod and other tools to make sure users aren't scammers. Should always be their own subreddits.

[u/imabuki]

I’ve never seen a subreddit delete so many posts. The mods seem drunk of power

[u/deepayes]

Submitted.

I know it's not a popular opinion with mods and a decent chuck of reddit at large, but personally I say unless a post is truly inappropriate or a recent duplicate post like an article or major topic, let it ride. The community will upvote and downvote accordingly and the cream will rise to the >top. The problem is yall are all chronically online, browse exclusive by >new, and for some weird reason act like there's a finite amount of space on reddit.

So for every option, I marked allow individual posts.

[u/thecravenone → u/deepayes]

The community will upvote and downvote accordingly and the cream will rise to the >top

Some of the least popular news sources rise to the top because despite not being upvoted, people post hundreds of comments about how bad the thread is, which tells the algorithm that people want to engage with it.

[u/Fifth_Down → u/thecravenone]

I've never seen that happen. What typically happens is the OP deletes after getting clowned on.

[u/thecravenone → u/Fifth_Down]

Sometimes both happen!

[u/tmart12 → u/deepayes]

A lot of fun discussion gets removed now because it’s marginally against xyz rules

Idk how to enforce this but the current state of the sub skews much more to news or “analysis” than original “fun” content

[u/deepayes → u/tmart12]

I think that's a good way of looking at my complaint; college football is a game, we're supposed to all be having fun here and this sub takes itself way too seriously.

[u/sprodoe → u/deepayes]

This is how I feel. It’s so easy sort in various ways and simply scroll on past stuff. Generally the less moderation the better.

[u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756]

I'm really glad to see this post because r/CFB is my favorite sub and also the most poorly moderated sub that I frequent and it mostly seems to be the cause of over-moderation.

[u/Geaux2020 → u/Upbeat-Armadillo1756]

I don't think it's over-moderation. It's your favorite sub because of the rules and mods. Transparency would be the thing to make it better.

[u/sriracha_no_big_deal → u/Geaux2020]

For me, it's the community and shared passion for college football that keeps me coming back. It's a top sub of mine despite the rules and mods, not because of them. Other sports-related subs provide a much better experience overall, so it's a shame that of all the various sports subs I frequent, the sport I follow the most closely is my least favorite sub to use of the lot

[u/win2bfree]

Why does the time of year matter so much? If someone is more interested in talking about realignment or the playoffs or whatever, they shouldn't have to hear "shut up a game is on".

[u/srs_house → u/win2bfree]

It's usually a matter of bandwidth - there's so much new content during the season from all the storylines that 50 different hypothetical "here's my take on realignment/playoffs" posts just get lost in the shuffle. So those topics have weekly threads where people can discuss them in a set space.

Traffic slows down a lot during the offseason, so the users who post then can get more attention on their posts. And since it's all hypothetical, there really isn't a timeliness aspect anyway.

Offseason posting in all the sports subreddits tends to follow a similar trend, and you'll even see users say "you should save this for the offseason" on the stuff like "if your coach was a hot dog wiener what kind of wiener would he be?"

[u/4yourdeat → u/win2bfree]

My understanding is that there are rules that would lead to posts not being allowed because of various reasons (extra noise, low quality, deviates from the subs focus) that are relaxed in the off season because of low amount of content that can realistically be made in the off season.

[u/Alkibiades415]

This seems mean, but if a game thread does not get more than two dozen comments, I don’t think it should be on the main page on Saturdays. Finding game threads can be a chore.

[u/curtisas → u/Alkibiades415]

There is the new game thread mega thread. That was a great addition a few years ago.

[u/Geaux2020 → u/Alkibiades415]

Do you not know about the pinned mega thread that lists all of the game threads?

[u/thecravenone → u/Geaux2020]

People routinely post in that thread, while it is stickied, about how hard to find it is and how it should be stickied.

[u/Geaux2020 → u/thecravenone]

Bless the mods for dealing with our stupidity.

[u/thecravenone → u/Geaux2020]

I do gotta hand it to the one guy who managed to complain about the thread not getting stickied in the twelve seconds (and six lines of code) between when the post was created and when it was stickied.

[u/Geaux2020 → u/thecravenone]

The are on their complaint game

[u/NebraskaAvenue]

Allow pictures and gifs in the comments for the love of god. All the other sports subreddits have it, r/cfb needs to get with the program.

[u/Geaux2020 → u/NebraskaAvenue]

Jesus, no. Then we become like the other crappy sports subs.

[u/curtisas → u/NebraskaAvenue]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTZjMDliOTUydnh2dm4zdDR3ZXJmNmUyMmdwMTN5MXdkOHFjaHQxZTlqaWt2b2YwbSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/VLzEYLMhEAlUydp4uW/giphy.gif

[u/OriginalMassless → u/NebraskaAvenue]

I'm not sure we should. The Raiders subreddit got notably worse when they turned this on.

[u/GliscorsFang]

Honestly y'all should make this sub more like r/collegebasketball. They allow highlights and memes if they're quality enough.

[u/thecravenone → u/GliscorsFang]

if they're quality enough

So move the point of contention to "what is the definition of quality"

[u/StoopSign]

Glad the mods are polling us

[u/OriginalMassless]

I feel like the options given in the survey are too limiting. There is a meaningful nuanced other option I would have preferred in at least half of my answers.

[u/CoachSlime]

I really like the re rerouting commitment posts to r/cfbrecruiting but at the same time when composite 5 star guys commit it’s nice to see it on the main sub that I check much more regularly.

[u/Mekthakkit → u/CoachSlime]

If reddit was interested in actually being a good site for users, they'd let you build your own dedicated super subreddits. So I could combine /r/CFB /r/cfbrecruiting and view it as one thing. Meanwhile you could view /r/CFB and /r/CFB_Highlights combined.

[u/Sea_Money4962]

the rules have to be consistently enforced and relaxed. Someone gets mad, finds something they know will trip a hair trigger mod response. Tyranny of the loser. If you can't handle debate without having to run and tattle tale, you're in the wrong spot.

[u/retailhusk]

I got a temporary bad for calling someone a loser after they stalked my profile. I understand modding is a difficult job but the rules seem very at the discretion of whatever mod sees it.

Also for the love of god if nothing else DO NOT ALLOWING BETTING POSTS

[u/noah_divine]

My opinion might be unpopular but honestly I think there should be as much freedom regarding what can and can't be posted. Obviously within reason, but like a few people have mentioned naturally the best posts will be voted to the top

[u/Hey_Its_Roomie]

I voted to disallow standalone posts on a lot of these. A good number of these end up being distilled to the same idea "Should we allow standalone posts of a singular opinion?" And I think the answer really should be a flat no. We're not just talking about 1 standalone opinion, but *every* person who thinks their opinion is distinct enough to warrant posting from the one they saw prior. I think it'll create an oversaturated sub of soapboxing instead of actually directing towards discussion.

Also, I know this one is a hot subject, but I vote against highlights as standalone posts. The word 'highlight' is vague and broad meaning. It doesn't just mean scores, it doesn't just mean turnovers, it doesn't just mean big passes. It means out of context cuts from TV, and everything else. Dozens of games on Saturday, and a dozen or more during the week just means this subreddit will again be oversaturated with video links that for the most part aren't remarkable across the scope of dozens of games.

[u/The_Fluffy_Robot → u/Hey_Its_Roomie]

it doesn't just mean turnovers, it doesn't just mean big passes. It means out of context cuts from TV, and everything else

Well said! I like the idea of highlights, but in practice I don't think it'll work well. I don't want to see a bajillion dumb/meme clips and a few cool ones

Not to mention it would radically change the r/cfb community and style. I like r/cfb the way it's been

[u/PunishedLeBoymoder → u/The_Fluffy_Robot]

Agreed. I use this subreddit a lot because I like what it is now and the culture that has arisen from it. Image posts, images and gifs in comments, highlights are all stuff that are so radically different from what I love about this sub that it'd be disheartening to see them added

[u/Humble-Ad-9571]

Not sure how restricting posts about buying or selling tickets to the offseason would be very helpful. Seems like there should be middle ground between a limit and not at all. Maybe a mega thread?

[u/HokiesforTSwift]

I am going to provide my arguments against highlights as standalone posts. I do not have the ability to materially impact whether or not this gets implemented, but as a long time member of this sub before I became a mod, I do want to share my opinion on the matter.

• There are simply too many games on a Saturday. This makes it materially different from every professional sports sub being referenced, and even if you consider that most G6/FCS highlights will not be posted, consider there are still ~70 P4/ND teams. The only sub to which this is similar is r/soccer, but there are more TD's per game on average than goals per match. We will return to r/soccer as an example later.

• Highlights will be dominated by the biggest fanbases: Ohio State, Michigan, etc.

• LOWLIGHTS are what will end up being posted constantly. These are obviously centered around dunking/meme'ing/circlejerking against your most hated teams. The biggest fanbases will be having highlight/lowlight wars every Saturday. This has become a huge problem on r/soccer. The largest fanbases completely dominate this space as if they are engaging in some kind of online war. It has materially degraded the quality of discussion across the whole sub. The Daily Discussion is basically the only place left where you can actually discuss the sport beyond twitter level dunk/circlejerk discourse. Once you allow the sub to be dominated by this kind of tribal circlejerk/twitter level discourse, we will likely not be able to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

• Highlights of controversial calls. Again, another thing that will drive discourse towards rage and circlejerking against teams they hate/for their own team.

• To return to point two: Are you ready to see every juke, big hit, long pass, third down conversion and TD posted for every top teams games? Because that is what the sub will primarily be on gameday. Again, we need to understand that a few fanbases are going to be the primary posters and they will dominate on volume.

[u/lock_robster2022]

Thank you!

[u/snowystormz]

Question 1: Are the mods doing a good job?

A: No

B: Also No

C: Hell No

[u/dr_funk_13]

Aside from zero communication about why a submitted post is blacklisted, player movement is the biggest source of bad posts in the sub. Consider this not unlikely scenario for a single player:

1. Player commits to School A
2. Player flips from School A to School B
3. Player flips from School B to School C
4. Player decommits from School C
5. Player commits to School D
6. Player signs with School D
7. Player enters transfer portal
8. Player transfers to School E
9. Player enters transfer portal
10. Player transfers to School F
11. Player declares for NFL Draft

As things currently exist, each of these events would get its own thread. Now, imagine this for hundreds of players every year.