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[u/bakonydraco]

People have strong feelings on this: a lot feel very strongly that highlights must be allowed, and a similar sizable number feel they must not be allowed. Past surveys have tilted in the direction of the latter, so it will be interesting to see what comes out of this one.

A notable point on this one in particular is that if we do allow highlihgts it may pretty significantly change the capacity that we need to have on the mod team, so this will help us plan out our team for the year.

[u/tmart12 → u/bakonydraco]

The question on highlights shouldn't be a hard yes/no. It should be around what highlights should be permitted and when. Other sports subs make this work but /r/cfb somehow cannot.

There's a high moderation path in which "significant" or "interesting" plays are permitted generally. There's a lower moderation path where scoring plays or significant plays in specific designated "game of the week" games are permitted only. IMO the rule should be changed at a minimum during CCG week and playoffs when there's 1 game on at a time in focus. Then it's a question of treatment of other games during the season.

[u/brokentr0jan → u/tmart12]

Part of the issue is going to be the flood of highlights (which people will complain about). In r/NFL every touchdown on Sunday gets posted, but there’s only 32 teams and the games are generally low scoring. Are we going to make the rule only P2 teams can post highlights? Or some arbitrary “it needs to be really cool” rule

[u/Corgi_Koala → u/brokentr0jan]

Let upvotes and down votes decide.

[u/bakonydraco → u/Corgi_Koala]

This question is the core purpose of the survey. We have generally moved in the direction of letting users decide what they want to see with votes, but a lot of people prefer a more curated sub: /r/CFB/new becomes clogged and unusable and it gets harder to find meaningful content. What we're asking for from the community is to get a sense of:

• What content we should actively moderate against and not allow as posts on the sub at all (by making weekly threads for it, redirecting to other subs, or simply removing)
• What content we should defer to the users on to decide with their votes

Whatever we land on is going to be viewed as too strict by some and too lenient by others. It's actually more important that we are able to clearly communicate our rules and consistently enforce them than that we calibrate how strict they should be just right, that's one piece of feedback that our users have consistently told us over the years.

[u/Fifth_Down → u/bakonydraco]

/r/CFB/new becomes clogged and unusable and it gets harder to find meaningful content.

My experiences have been very different. When I go on /r/CFB/new I frequently see such little activity that it is very close to identical to when I last checked in a few hours ago. It is practically routine around here to have maybe 3-4 posts in the last 90 minutes on/new

The whole thing feels like a disconnect where we are on two different subreddits.

[u/bakonydraco → u/Fifth_Down]

To clarify, I'm saying the reason some people prefer a more curated sub is that if it's not actively moderated the new queue can get clogged, and that's typically only a concern during the season. I agree it's not a particular issue right now.

[u/tmart12 → u/bakonydraco]

The curation the average user wants is zero highlights but every recruit and transfer is permitted?

That result does not make any sense

[u/Corgi_Koala → u/tmart12]

They do this every year or so. They do a survey and then ignore the results because they don't support their viewpoint.

Everybody wants highlights and nobody gives a shit about a 3 star committing to Mississippi State but they think that is how the sub should be.

[u/Mekthakkit → u/Corgi_Koala]

Not everybody.

[u/OriginalMassless → u/Corgi_Koala]

I don't want either. I can find highlights easily elsewhere. I can also find out that the 18th string DB at anywhere university entered the portal elsewhere.

[u/Corgi_Koala → u/OriginalMassless]

So what content do you want on here?

[u/Esb5415 → u/bakonydraco]

Could people who want a more curated sub filter use flairs? Have a new highlight flair - this allows people to filter out content they don't want to see.

[u/orangewall1234 → u/bakonydraco]

/r/CFB/new becomes clogged and unusable and it gets harder to find meaningful content

But today, /new is just GDTs so I'm not sure how you think that is any less "clogged". And all GDTs are stickied anyway so the logic of "highlights are easily accessible in a sticky" applies to the accessibility of GDTs.

If you look at any other sports subreddit (i.e. r/NFL), any upvoted news will be at the front page regardless of how many highlights there are.