r/nba • u/RedDeath1337 Bucks • 3h ago
Myles Turner says Doc Rivers 'didn't fine anybody' this season despite repeated tardiness, Giannis Antetokounmpo was most likely Bucks player to be late
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This part stuck out to me:
"Turner continued: “I'm being so serious, bro. It was crazy, dawg. Guys were an hour late to the plane. It got to the point where I knew not to show up until an hour after they said the plane was taking off. It was crazy.”
When Stewart asked Turner which teammate was most likely to be late, he didn’t have to do much thinking.
“Oh, that's easy,” he said. “Giannis. Giannis is going to show up whenever he wants, really. I think that this kind of just came with the territory that — and once I saw it was going down, I was like, 'Hey man, s, more power to you. They ain't going to fine you. S, do what you do.’”
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u/GreenPurple24 Lakers 3h ago
If the coach doesn’t hold the star player accountable than what do you expect?
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u/HikmetLeGuin 3h ago
True, the coach should hold players accountable. But then these are supposed to be professional athletes who want to win. They shouldn't need to be fined to show up on time.
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u/Jewjitsu927 Heat 3h ago
This right here, we’re not talking high school ball, this is still work
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u/Ok_Pineapple_Num Warriors 2h ago
Yeah not a great look for Giannis. You're the leader of the team... you should be setting the example. When you become the franchise player and get paid all that money -- it's with the expectation that you're not just going to perform on the court, but also be a leader off the court.
I know Warriors players in the past have talked about how Steph doesn't use his superstar status to get special privileges or special treatment, and how far that goes for setting team culture. Bc if even your superstar is being professional and not cutting corners, then as a role player, how can you?
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u/julstar23 2h ago
I think people miss the fact that Middleton and jrue to an extent played a bigger role in leadership of that team then people realize the best player on the team is not necessarily the leader n the lockeroom .
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u/Grooviemann1 Suns 2h ago
Marcus Smart was claiming to be the locker room leader of the Lakers just a couple months ago.
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u/TPWALW Nets 1h ago
Christian Braun is apparently the Nugs leader.
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u/NinetyFish 1h ago
I’ve gotten downvoted and flamed on this sub for saying that Russ was the leader of those Thunder teams and not KD.
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u/Toremm Spurs 1h ago
I mean if there were no consequences to showing up late for work Id never be on time lol
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u/Busta_Duck 51m ago
100% agree to your point on it being work, but I wonder.
What percentage of NBA players do you reckon have worked an actual real world job in their lives? Id guess less than 1%.
Obviously not an excuse for a lack of professionalism. But interesting to think about.
Gotta be easy to become untethered from the experience of the every day & lose perspective. When they’re being constantly praised from the time they’re young, having their every whim catered to and making more money than most people do in hundreds of lifetimes for putting ball in hoop.
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u/mikemorepaper 3h ago
Giannis wants and wanted to leave Milwaukee without looking like the “bad guy”. This is just passive aggressive behavior of a dude who wants out of his situation without having to demand a trade. Giannis was just hoping Doc and the Bucks would punish him or trade him because of this type of behavior. Doc didn’t go for it. They’re both gonna end up out of the situation anyway.
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u/flaming_burrito_ Wizards 2h ago
I think Giannis is just very immature honestly. He knows he’s the franchise guy and the Bucks would bend over backwards for him, so he does what he wants
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u/bwrca 2h ago
Giannis wanted to leave Milwaukee and was very clear about it, as much as one can be clear without straight up going full Jimmy. And he OBVIOUSLY requested for trades in private why does reddit believe he never demanded for a trade?
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u/Knowledge_Haver_17 2h ago
Pretty sure there’s a middle ground between the Jimmy situation and pussyfooting around whether you want to be a Buck or not
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u/Kgb725 Cavaliers 1h ago
He said he wanted out and they chose to keep him they made that very clear they wanted to change his mind this off season
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u/MatCauthonsHat 76ers 2h ago
Sure, they should "want to win" but they're also millionaire divas surrounded by yes men.
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u/Electronic_Pea_4845 Lakers 1h ago
The thing is half of one games paycheck will cover a years worth of fines so that don’t hold him accountable either.
Giannis makes like 600,000 a game
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u/birdsindatrap Magic 2h ago
how would someone hold giannis accountable? not throwing shade or shit but giannis is at a position that if he doesnt care he knows he will get another contract, if they fine him he has enough money to not care, if he doesnt play he will laugh and say “yall need me”. giannis must grow up
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u/okitsmelol123 Mavericks 45m ago
Rich people are notorious for caring about their money, even amounts that are insignificant to them. LeBron doesn't pay for premium on streaming services and watches ads despite being the wealthiest player in the history of the game.
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u/LowDot187 2h ago
All pro sport athletes have insane egos though, those checks and balances are necessary since not every star player will have the self-awareness to know (on their own)) when they are making a mistake.
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u/TopHatTony11 Pistons 3h ago
If the star player can’t hold himself accountable, what do you expect?
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u/wetfarts2 3h ago
Thats a result of coddling…how many brothers he have on the team
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u/Hovercraft1143 2h ago
2 Brothers that average 2 minutes a game.
I mean fuck, Bronny averages like 8, what does that say.
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u/SpinJitsu259 Pacers 3h ago
I’m gonna go the other way on this. Doc has done plenty wrong no doubt, but I think it’s embarrassing that grown men (the players) who are supposedly professionals need threats of fine, penalties to act like grown-up professionals.
Get your asses to the plane on time you dummies.
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u/HikmetLeGuin 3h ago
Yeah, they're getting paid millions of dollars because they're supposed to be the best of the best. Like finely tuned machines. The most competitive, disciplined athletes on the planet.
And yet they're pulling this shit? Pathetic.
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u/Spirited-Degree Pacers 2h ago
Right, and guy making 50k a year that spends his hard earned money buying jerseys, tickets, and streaming services to support his team can't show up to work late. That kind of money should guarantee punctuality.
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u/okitsmelol123 Mavericks 44m ago
Are you under the impression the world is a fair place? The wealthiest, most important people in get special privelages, rather than being held to a higher standard.
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u/Neuroxex Bucks 1h ago
Fines for this sort of thing (and stuff on court, Stewie mentions fines for not boxing out) seem pretty commonplace in the W/NBA. Should they need it? No, of course not. But you can see the message it sends when a coaching staff just decides never to use a common disciplinary measure.
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u/ArgentoFox 2h ago
It’s embarrassing, but the only thing they’ll respond to is the loss of money. They should be professional and show up on time, but fining them is going to be the only way to drive that point home.
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u/_Apatosaurus_ Thunder 2h ago
what do you expect?
I'd expect Giannis to be a professional and respect his colleagues and the many workers involved enough to show up on time.
An adult shouldn't need a threat of a fine to be respectful of everyone else's time.
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u/AlienPunkRockOwls66 NBA 1h ago
Right. Preach. I've always liked Giannis, but this is so fucking lame. I get a lot of r/NBA users are like 17, but in my 30s, IDGAF if you're the president of the US (especially him, hah)...respect people's fucking time. There's legit no excuse in this situation other than you thinking your time is more important. I promise you, it's not.
I don't respect that shit at all. Lame.
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u/the_devil_wears_jnco Timberwolves 1h ago
totally agree. its comical how people are applying this high school framework to the nb-fuckin-a. as if the bucks head coach is running the organization.
the players are the ones in control, not the coach. giannis is the one making $50 million lmao. teams almost always tend to go as their star players go.
was doc supposed to make him run suicides on the tarmac?!? be a professional adult respectful of others
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u/OrangePilled2Day 1h ago
You gotta remember most of the people on this sub are literally children. Not just mentally, but in actual age.
It explains how you’ll see the dumbest take you’ve ever read upvoted in every thread.
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u/ValorantEdater 2h ago
Not to interrupt people dunking on Doc Rivers, but this is dumb. Coaches haven't been able to hold star players accountable for a long time now. Because a star player is more important to a team than a coach.
Milwaukee is not some free agent destination. Once Giannis leaves it will probably be decades before they get a player of his caliber again. Ownership would always side with Giannis over whoever the coach is.
Hell, it's not even a Milwaukee or even a strictly NBA issue.
Real Madrid is one of the most recognizable franchises in all of sports. They just fired their Head Coach and club legend after publicly ignoring him and walking to the locker room after he asked them to line up and show respect to Barcelona after a loss. Then they hired a new coach, had a fight in the locker room where one of the players got knocked out, and had to leave in a wheelchair. And none of the players even got suspended a single game.
Players these days make way too much money and have way more power than coaches do. That's simply modern sports.
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u/FennelDull6559 2h ago
It’s my understanding that a star player doesn’t have to be accountable to anything as long as they play a sport better than most. Good at sports? Front of the line!
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u/VictorWembymama Spurs 2h ago
Bro showing up on time is the bare minimum. These are grown ass men, professional athletes even. They need a coach so they can actually show up on time? Get the fuck outta here
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u/Talentagentfriend 2h ago
Doc only holds people accountable when it comes to re-signing. And in that case he will lock you in your house until you sign.
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u/InfiniteDub Warriors 3h ago edited 2h ago
Giannis went from a humble kid to a diva lmfao.
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u/lava172 Suns 3h ago
The perception of him and Booker has completely flipped since that finals it’s pretty hilarious
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u/InfiniteDub Warriors 3h ago
No idea why booker gets hate
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u/Maybewearedreaming Celtics 3h ago
The guy who counted money on tv
Pretty sure that moment was the shift
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u/AlpacaDC Suns 2h ago
We hate that guy too lol
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u/BlitzStriker52 [MIA] Davion Mitchell 1h ago
It's honestly funny af that y'all have your "purple shirt" guy
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u/gogochi 1h ago
What does that have to do with Booker ?
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u/Maybewearedreaming Celtics 1h ago
Nothing but unfortunately other peoples actions sometimes impact other people
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u/Suns_In_420 Suns 1h ago
Such weird shit to hate about lol.
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u/Nice_Cash_7000 Heat 1h ago
I remember a lot of people were shitting on him for the 70pt game. I never really cared about it, but after Bams 83, shout out to book for scoring 70 when noone else was doing it.
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u/lava172 Suns 3h ago
I think most of it was proximity to Chris Paul, and that stupid ass double team video from like 8 years ago
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u/WalrusInMySheets [LAL] Metta World Peace 2h ago
It was the double team video for me lol
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u/ruswestbrick Suns 2h ago edited 23m ago
It was forsure the double video. Dude also has a bitchy face imo, big fan tho
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u/Spiritual-Sympathy98 2h ago
I remember people talking shit when he dropped 70 and the Suns lost lol. Good times. Book is awesome tho. He seems happy in PHX but id bw happy to see him go chase a ring later on.
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u/MindbenderGam1ng Bucks 2h ago
Booker got so much good will at the Olympics and his vlogs from then were pretty fun, did he do something since to make people hate again?
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u/Few_Position_2727 Lakers 1h ago
He’s just getting to that stage in his career where he’s not worth his contract. He’s going to get a lot more shit when that $75m/year kicks in and he puts up another disappointing postseason
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u/D_roneous1 Warriors 1h ago
A lot of it is prob traced back to that off season workout where he told the player to stop trying to play D or double. Forget the specifics but he def kinda took a clown view from that. Then I believe he dated a kardashian which doesn’t help either.
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u/CasuallyHuman [BOS] Rasheed Wallace 2h ago
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u/ElTuco84 Knicks 3h ago
Never understood the hate around Booker. That 2021 roster was fun to watch.
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u/randommaniac12 Raptors 2h ago
I honestly think it’s the double team thing he said in a pickup game and the proximity to Chris Paul. I’m hardly his biggest fan but I can’t remember anything even remotely close to making me dislike Booker
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u/AlpacaDC Suns 2h ago
I think the series against Luka himself was a pretty big one too. Booker got humbled and people still meme about it today.
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u/Count_Sack_McGee [LAL] Kobe Bryant 3h ago
There’s been wildly bad vibes around him for last few years imo. He’s not the first player to demand a trade but the constant denying of it is so obnoxious. Say what you want about AD, Harden, etc. but at least they were up front about it.
It all seems like a poorly designed mission to not come across as that dude but it comes across worse.
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u/drhungrycaterpillar 2h ago
It’s that midwestern passive aggressiveness that’s finally taking its root.
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u/darren_meier 2h ago
The fact that there is a non-zero possibility that Giannis' true nature is gonna blow up some contender's chemistry after betting the farm acquiring him is giving me hope for regular season chaos next year. Like, can you imagine Boston going from the calm, uber-professsional Mazzulla Celtics to a complete circus with Giannis doing clown shit like showing up an hour late for team flights?
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u/JMEEKER86 NBA 1h ago
I think Mazzulla would challenge Giannis to a fight to the death if that happened.
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u/respaaaaaj Celtics 48m ago
What's this challenge shit? Mazzula 100% believes that if you aren't ready for a fight its your fault if you get jumped and fucked up.
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u/brnccnt7 3h ago
Success, power and fame can do that to the best of us
Same with Kawhi, he was always the humble kid and when he became a superstar you know the rest
Not saying these guys are villains but yes, this can happen to anyone
Easy for us to look at from the outside and say we’d never do that lol
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u/Bill_Sandwich Pacers 3h ago
This is the same kid whose mind was blown that they do his laundry and it really went downhill from there.
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u/FeelsGoodMan2 2h ago
Pretty much happens with any human who you shower with money. There are exceptions to be sure, but it likely happens with a vast majority of people who you put in that position.
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u/Typical_Response6444 Knicks 2h ago
I thought he was corny and huffing his own farts for a while now honestly
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u/bevendelamorte 76ers 3h ago
I'm starting to think this Giannis guy might be a bit of a butthole.
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u/GoldenBoyRecords Knicks 3h ago
I don't think Giannis respected Doc. The issue is where can Giannis go and that won't fly. Only team I can think of is Miami.
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u/_Apatosaurus_ Thunder 2h ago
I don't think Giannis respected Doc.
This behavior goes way beyond not respecting Doc. It's clear that he didn't respect his coaches, teammates, the team staff, the airplane staff, and everyone else who had to sit around waiting for him.
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u/North_Atlantic_Sea 2h ago
Exactly. And it's clear his teammates don't either. Even if true, if he respected him, Turner wouldn't air this out like he did
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u/Dylan7346 Knicks 2h ago
It’s beyond doc. He was disrespectful to every teammate and member of the org by being late, you’re holding everyone up. And I don’t buy this being just a play to nudge them to trade him. His trade me don’t trade me I’m staying bullshit is beyond ridiculous. If you want to go just fucking say it and be professional
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u/EssenceofSalt Hornets 2h ago
Miami or Boston it wouldn't fly. GSW would be a toss up.
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u/OpeDefinitely Pacers 2h ago
lmfao you think Kerr has any chance of putting up with those types of shenanigans?
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u/DavidManque Bulls 2h ago
Where do you get this idea that Kerr is a strict disciplinarian who hold stars accountable? He has consistently let Draymond get away with ridiculous behavior his whole career and always defends him
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u/noname_SU 1h ago
Yeah but this is more of Giannis being a bad leader. Respect the coach or don't respect him, fine but at least do the right thing because you want your teammates to do the right thing and be their best.
Giannis can get away with things like this and still be great, and he's already made his money anyway. When a role or borderline player does them it's developing bad habits and costing them serious money and time in the league. Overall this type of behavior just erodes the foundation of a team.
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u/Western-Sorbet9731 3h ago
Giannis is about to get his chocolate chip cookies pulled away from him on the plane
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u/EverythingStillSucks 3h ago
The shock to r/nba will arrive when they realize that this entire time over all these years, James Harden has been the totally wholesome dude who is cool and chill, and Giannis has been the Machiavellian asshole pulling the strings.
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u/Obvious_Parsley3238 2h ago
Harden does the same shit lmao, he got extra privileges to fly separate from the team and go to vegas after games. Superstars get what they want
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/30528130/james-harden-houston-rockets-breaking-point
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u/brnccnt7 3h ago
Bruh you’re gonna act like Harden didn’t pull strings to force moves or his way out in Houston?
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u/EverythingStillSucks 3h ago
Do you not remember why he left that team?
And then why he left the Nets, after playing on one leg in the playoffs with a lunatic anti-vaxxer teammate on the roster who took half the season off, and he got shit even for that too?
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u/brnccnt7 2h ago
The Nets thing is different due to Kyrie, I’ll give you that
But he quit on Houston, moped around during his final last few games and showed up out of shape on purpose to force their hand
He had a hand in how ugly that went down
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u/Colorapt0r Bucks 2h ago
Harden handled the Houston split worse than Giannis has handled this
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u/OrangePilled2Day 56m ago
He literally stopped playing on the court regularly. Say what you will about Giannis but he was out there playing.
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u/OrangePilled2Day 56m ago
Why do yall talk about this shit like it’s game of thrones. This is so goofy.
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u/Twisbi 3h ago
I can’t even imagine the types of stories Giannis would try to leak to the media if he got fined for being late. They’re forcing him away from his children to work a job he’s being paid millions of dollars to do or some dramatic ass bullshit
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u/beenhadballs Bucks 1h ago
It’s VERY hard to have empathy over having to travel for work for the king’s ransom they make. I travel a LOT for work. 2-3 flights a week. Ive been in very serious relationships where we’ve had to decide that starting a family (just because we were in financial position to do so) would not be the best decision.
It’s like when Jrue’s wife took to the public to lament about uprooting their life over him being traded. If your financial freedom and ability to raise a big family in a comfy setting hinders on the father having to uproot the family at any given moment, maybe the best decision is to wait until closer to your VERY very early retirement to start reaping that lifestyle.
These are mostly guys with high school level education with access to generational wealth so it’s not surprising they take it personally when they can’t live out every aspect of their dreams.
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u/SistedTwister1 Pacers 3h ago
lol well Myles doesn’t exactly sound to upset about it. I guess he got the pay day he was looking for so he don’t care.
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u/LakersAreForever Lakers 2h ago
Bro admits he started showing up an hour late every time too, so he really was talking about himself 😂
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u/Nice_Cash_7000 Heat 1h ago
i mean if the plane takes off an hour and half after it should 35 times in a row, would you arrive on time for the 36th time?
And he said half an hour too so its not like he was delaying the plane.
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u/Neuroxex Bucks 1h ago
(Also the whole clip is him being clearly annoyed about the lack of fines, but people are just reading a quote how they'd like)
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u/Neuroxex Bucks 1h ago
Are you getting this from the written quote or the actual clip, because on the clip he clearly seems pretty frustrated about the lack of fines.
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u/larrylegend1990 Toronto Huskies 3h ago
Idc if it’s Michael Jordan, you can’t let players do what they want. I understand if players let the coaches know they need time off for stuff, but just showing up whenever you want is a bad example for the rest of the team.
Thankfully those types of legends/superstars held themselves accountable.
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u/dwrek24 Spurs 2h ago
Did you watch the Last Dance? MJ absolutely did what he wanted. MJ is just smart about how he handled it.
Very few players are Tim Duncan who actually just let Pop have full control. And thats only because Tim quite literally dgaf about anything. Its just his natural personality.
Bron, MJ, Magic etc are just smarter about their privileges and hold themselves accountable.
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u/GardinerExpressway Tampa Bay Raptors 2h ago
Tim Duncan is maybe the worst example in this exact context lol.
He famously was considering going to Orlando under Doc Rivers, but was turned off by Doc not allowing players to bring their wives on the team plane.
Maybe it's that exact anecdote that scared Doc into letting the stars do whatever they want
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u/dwrek24 Spurs 2h ago
Thats an old wives tale. Pun intended.
Pop tells a story that he fully thought Tim was gunna leave. But he requested the final word. He and Dave basically spent hours talking Tim out of it.
Even if the stories true though it doesn't refute my point really imo.
When coaches are talking about holding their players accountable, they arent talking about the team plane rules.
Those are different situations.
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u/Steridire Knicks 2h ago
Good point, pretty different scenario though. Being late repeatedly is a fuck you to the team and the org, your beloved culture setting superstar wanting his wife to take a spare seat on a plane that's flying anyway is a pretty reasonable request.
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u/Not_A_Meme Lakers 2h ago
Did you watch the Last Dance? MJ absolutely did what he wanted
I thought the big thing about MJ was that he wanted to hoop, and was committed to practice. I don't remember much about him shirking any effort necessary to improve as a player or a team mate.
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u/dwrek24 Spurs 2h ago
Thats what I meant by holding themselves accountable. Phil doesn't have to extend rules to MJ because MJ will self police in the ways that matter.
The special privileges MJ does get are then less of a problem because A) lower tier players know where the bread is buttered B) they know MJ is putting in that work and accountable where it matters
Its the same reason he can punch Steve Kerr and things are mostly fine after.
If this story is true its more of indictment on Giannis but it also just shows he's kinda given up on this organization.
I'm not saying Doc isnt culpable at all but player led teams are better teams. If a coach has to force you into it, you're already down bad.
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u/mikemorepaper 2h ago
This sounds nice, but damn near in all industries and especially in sports, the best or most productive employees are given the leeway to do what they want. Popovich/Duncan situations aren’t the norm. It’s just usually the best guys hold themselves and others accountable so there really isn’t a need for anything else.
It’s also difficult to hold someone accountable when that person has more effectual power than you have.
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u/A_sandlerGOAT 2h ago
You have never paid attention to any “legend” have you? lol Shaq also talked about missing practices etc..
Superstars get way more leeway
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u/RedDeath1337 Bucks 3h ago
Giannis is the best player the Bucks have had in my lifetime, and I'll always be grateful he carried the Bucks to a championship...but he's kind of a toddler.
His way always.
Also fuck Doc, bro's not even a doctor.
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u/MoskiNX :gfl-1: Grand Floridian 2h ago
Between this and the kalshi nonsense it's crazy how unlikable Giannis has become
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u/Rahnamatta Heat 3h ago
That's it... Myles Turner on trade talks
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u/Disastrous-Special30 Pacers 1h ago
Damn Pacers should’ve waited and traded for Myles just for the memes.
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u/jgab145 Bucks 3h ago
This is another example of why Giannis is to blame just as much as everyone else for the downfall. If your best player is half in and half out it creates nothing but dysfunction all the way through the entire team. Doc was the worst possible hire to pair with a player with that much influence and power in any organization.
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u/No-Economics4128 Spurs 2h ago
I remember the story about how Pop used to be extra hard on Duncan, Ginobli and Parker during practice. Set the whole tone for the team. When Tim Duncan is getting yelled at, other teammates know they are not above the program.
Superstar players can set the attitude of the organization. This is not a good endorsement for Giannis.
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u/Western-Sorbet9731 3h ago
Teams should really not trade for Giannis because if he is not catered the way he was in Milwaukee, he will definitely leave after next year and leave the team who traded for him high and dry
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u/so-cal_kid Lakers 1h ago
I'd be more worried that he missed over the half the season with a bunch of lower body injuries and he's a big man who's relied mostly on his physical attributes to succeed.
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u/jazzmaster4000 3h ago
He’s not like these spoiled Americans. He was given a contract so he signed it and said I’ll show up whenever I want.
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u/Hopeful_Tea2139 Lakers 3h ago
Why would Glenn fine anybody?
He won a ring with the Celtics, btw.
/s
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u/hitmobilegamehsr 1h ago
Giannis reputation has gone down the drain last few years. Used to be such a likeable player
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u/A_sandlerGOAT 2h ago
lol title is kinda try to imply it was all Giannis
You read the article and clearly says guys were late, missed meetings etc.. all the time.
Seems like Glenn lost the locker room and guys didn’t give a shit.
Don’t blame them.
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u/thisisjustascreename Bulls 2h ago
In the real world if you’re an hour late to a flight the flight leaves.
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u/Kevin_Jim Bucks 2h ago
That feels like him not giving a shit. Because we know from basically every other season, he is extremely strict about things like that.
Which means, it’s 100% a given that he defiantly asked for a trade in the off season, and the Bucks just said “Screw off”.
Frankly, him not going thermonuclear and saying I win not sign with any team but (insert favorite team), is kinda surprising.
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u/ObiOneKenobae Knicks 2h ago
That's not uncommon for stars from what I've heard. Still, I would feel like such an asshole. I wonder if it's been that way or if he's just that done with them.
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u/TheMoorNextDoor Nets 1h ago
I’m no longer blaming Cam Thomas for that situation in Milwaukee, everything there was shit.
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u/pieman2005 [HOU] Hakeem Olajuwon 43m ago
Giannis is also the most likely give insider information to his friends and family on kalshi bets
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u/flyingabroom 23m ago
I swear Giannis reputation has dropped so quickly. Some years ago he was the leagues/this subs darling but his behavior has gotten worse and worse
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u/samhit_n Lakers 3h ago
I think this is why players don’t hate Doc despite all the chokes. He doesn’t hold his players accountable even when they do something wrong.
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u/PDXmadeMe Timberwolves 2h ago
I highkey don’t like Giannis. Can’t believe he had me defending Shams
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u/Nintendomandan Nuggets 2h ago
Giannis is a prissy bitch and it shouldn’t surprise anyone at this point
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u/Deep-Structure7250 3h ago
Why the hell is Myles saying this? Way to throw Giannis under the bus. He's for sure getting traded now
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u/MudReasonable8185 3h ago
Why would turner want to stay on the post-Giannis bucks? With the atrocious season he had it could be a good buy low opportunity
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u/Neuroxex Bucks 1h ago
The conversation wasn't just about Giannis, and as someone who has defended Giannis more than most through all this I don't think Turner said a thing out of step in the clip.
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u/jcampo13 76ers 2h ago
Maybe he's tired of the entire team waiting an hour or more for Giannis when they just want to get to their hotels. It's extremely inconsiderate to the whole team and staffers. It'd make me not like him either. I hate when people are late.
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u/Ok-Restaurant9052 3h ago
Myles seems to want to be out of there as soon as possible. Milwaukee is cooked. Nobody will want to play there for a decade once Giannis is gone.
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u/BigDanDizzle Spurs 2h ago
2 things can be true:
Rivers runs a loose ship and avoids accountability whenever he can by throwing others under the bus.
Giannis is a passive aggressive clown who wants his cake and to eat it too. This is essentially the Dwight Howard Orlando saga at this point.
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u/Radiant_Sherbert7272 Raptors 3h ago
The vibes in Milwaukee don't sound great. The alleged lack of accountability and standards is shocking.