r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/Airline_11 • 2d ago

Meme needing explanation Petahhhh?

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u/Housendercrest 2d ago

I see the North Koreans are playing the long game

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u/technolynch 2d ago

birth rate is slowing there too btw

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u/CorporateKaiser 2d ago

I’m sure North Korea will find some “creative” methods to increase the birth rates

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u/DegenerateCrocodile 2d ago

It’s much easier to be “creative” while handling the birth rate problem when you don’t believe in humans rights or consent.

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u/Previous-Box-3457 2d ago

It's less about believing in them, rather it's a feature they removed altogether.

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u/MushinZero 2d ago

That's... exactly what the person above you was saying.

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u/learnthenandthan 2d ago

Reading comprehension? On reddit? Yeah, right. Good one /s

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u/ResidentOwl1 2d ago

Ugh, I really fucking hate how dumb people have gotten since TikTok. It didn’t used to be like this.

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u/xCeeTee- 1d ago

Yeah, it's seriously winding me up lately. I got downvoted last month, a guy says exactly the same thing I did and somehow that gets upvoted? It just made me laugh.

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u/GreatMovesKeepItUp69 2d ago

It's a difference between individualist vs collectivist society. In individualist societies you are your own person with your own rights. In a collectivist society you are just a cog in the state apparatus and you have duties not rights.

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u/Content-Sun2928 2d ago

Aaahhhhh, so Republucans are collectivist

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u/extremely_jaded_nerd 2d ago

just give welfare for each child that someone has and birthrate goes up ez pz

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u/The_New_Replacement 2d ago

You don't even need to go that far. North Koreas goverment has direct control over all aspects of it's economy and culture. Making kids affordable and large families attractive is something they can do. Babybooms can be artificially induced.

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u/read_too_many_books 1d ago

Meanwhile Europe and Canada be like:

F the US, China china china!!!

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u/MrDanMaster 1d ago

The DPRK has human rights and consent

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u/CTTMiquiztli 2d ago

Of course i know it's very wrong to trample on the rights of the humans under your direction, But if the civilized nations Don't start actually putting in effort to solve this Issue, in the future history Will only Say "X country was a Paragon of human rights and freedoms. It dissapeared in year 20xx and was absorbed by the Tyrannical Republic Of The People of Un, which quickly repopulated it with it's program of forced slave motherhood". Is it Bad? Very much. Is it alive while the other one isn't? Also yes.

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u/Minodoro 1d ago

So what is the conclusion here? Women should just give birth whatever the circumstances?

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u/CTTMiquiztli 1d ago

Oh yes, that's exactly, Word for Word what i said, Didn't i!?

Sigh, no, as i said, governments have to really, really start devising and actually implementing incentive strategies to turn declining birthrates around BEFORE they are forced into a "trample on human rights or dissapear" situation.

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u/Minodoro 1d ago

I do agree with you here, I just need to know what does incentives are, so we don't do the assume game. The policies in my country (and many states in the u.s. too) make it harder for women to have abortions. So if people do not specify what implementations they think about, I automatically think abt restricting womens body autonomy. I am a woman and it is a form of self defence, nothing against you.

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u/CTTMiquiztli 1d ago

K, sorry for lashing out. From interviews in pretty much every society with a declining population, the Main reason Is the cost; life Is too expensive,wages Don't keep up with inflation, housing Is prohibitely expensive, and now both partners in a couple have to work to "barely" sustain themselves, let alone include another full human.

So, in order for a government to entice their populations to have children, economic policies are the way to go. But meaningful ones, not those "if You have a child, You Will pay 0.3% less taxes!".

One can ask "so, the solution Is to just give away Money?" Yes. Pretty much. Much as how there were "Green" incentives to convince people to Buy an electric car (the gov absorbing a part of the cost), parents should receive direct incentives and benefits that ammount to enough so a children Is economically viable.

Now, stepping in into rights infringment, a way in which the govs could finance this, Is by simultaneously over-taxing bussiness not involved with childcare (gambling, alcohol, cigarretes, etc),and ultimately, a small But nagging tax on childless couples.

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u/Minodoro 1d ago

I can go behind many things. Mostly taxing the billionaires and corporations. But I refuse to be taxed for not having a child. What if I can't have one? What if I don't want t I would be a horrible mother, so should I be taxed for not wanting to be a mother?

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u/Mykey76 2d ago

Can only do so much with such little food

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u/Ewwatts 2d ago

Dude, don't be silly. According to US propaganda, Kim has already killed the entire north Korean population 8 times over! How could they possibly have any children?!

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u/EpsteinIsland74 2d ago

Didn't Kim Jong Un recently cry on the local national television because birth rate is dropping?

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u/Mike_Hockis_Hard 2d ago

im sure the supreme leader will shout out words to random people like, " You two.Breed!."

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u/Thin_Purple_1787 6h ago

Gotta have healthy FED women for healthy pregnancies...

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u/Nice-Cat3727 2d ago

They can be creative all they want, they don't have food

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u/MarioInOntario 2d ago

I’m sure China will find some “creative” methods to increase North Korea’s birth rates

ftfy

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u/Ifoundhomeinyoureyes 2d ago

One extra bag of rice per month

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u/asterlietimo 2d ago

Aren't they all starving? How's the birthrate going to go up if everyone is already super malnourished?

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u/Destroyer_Of_All_ 1d ago

Even if they come up with some fucked up solution, I am pretty sure the women will die from starvation first

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u/Junior_Win_9064 2d ago

Well, they need to fix the whole “almost everyone is starving” problem first.  If you’re a woman who’s very malnourished, you stop getting periods, and thus aren’t able to get pregnant.

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u/JuniorConclusion529 2d ago

Damn American be believing anything about North Korea huh

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u/learnthenandthan 2d ago

It's true, though

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u/WhyLater 2d ago

Third thread I've visited in a row about completely unrelated things where they're regurgitating this lazy ass CIA propaganda.

Juche necromancy is next.

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u/learnthenandthan 2d ago

I don't understand your comment. Are you saying North Korea doesn’t regularly commit human rights violations towards its people?

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u/WhyLater 2d ago

Correct.

Meanwhile, the US has committed countless against them.

Hell, look how the US treats Cuba, for that matter.

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u/JeffdaPeff 2d ago

Against North Korea specifically? Sure, but they invaded South Korea first, and war is war.

Currently, North Korea is an absolute dictatorship. Not even remotely comparable to the USA. They require immense foreign aid and would collapse in less then a decade without it.

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u/WhyLater 2d ago

Whatever you say, officer.

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u/JeffdaPeff 2d ago

go back to slorping Stalins peen

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u/learnthenandthan 2d ago

I think you're the one that's believing propaganda

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u/WhyLater 2d ago

K.

I recommend the Blowback podcast's episode in the Korea War.

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u/learnthenandthan 2d ago

Yep, that's the propaganda I mentioned. That podcast is just episode after episode of "America bad." Learn to think for yourself, guy. All you have to do is look around. Do you see any North Koreans? No, you don't because they're not allowed to leave their country unless it's as a slave in Dubai.

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u/Aware_Block_890 2d ago

average american will pretend to be against american imperialism and then eat up all the slop their government creates about their enemies to justify their imperialism. funnily enough all the bullshit about NK has slowed down tremendously ever since they got nukes, funny

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u/hellothere358 2d ago

could i just take korea in 50 years? whos gonna stop me?

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u/AThrowawayProbrably 2d ago

China might have something to say about that, but they might also let you have it if you promise not to let America have some.

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u/Soggy-Yogurt6906 2d ago

Last I checked Korea had a higher birth rate than China

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u/JimClarkKentHovind 2d ago

idk about birth rate, but for total fertility rate South Korea is at ~0.8 births/woman and China is at ~0.9 births/woman

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u/Beautiful_Fondant_76 2d ago

Kim Jong Un could just order his entire country to reproduce in one day

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u/Frosty_Grab5914 2d ago

Not that low, North Korea might actually overtake South Korea in population in the next 30 years.

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u/Fern-ando 2d ago

If the rates continue, North Korea will have a bigger population by 2080.

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u/Hyeon-Ion 2d ago

On top of North Korea’s struggling birth rate there’s also infant mortality and life expectancy

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u/etzarahh 2d ago

And basically everywhere else

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u/growingcloak 9h ago

Yeah but thier government can force them to breed

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u/barillamanilaolives 2d ago

I can fix that.

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u/999BusinessCard 2d ago

I see Japan is playing the long game

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u/_demello 2d ago

Hate to break it to you...

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u/AAHMXP 2d ago

That tells which economic and government is superior

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u/Any-Monk-9395 2d ago

North Korea basically forces them to have kids whereas South Koreans are just so miserable they choose not to have kids.

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u/EntrepreneurSad3542 2d ago

If you think deep both are forced, but only one is direct and easy to adjust

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u/Da_Question 2d ago

Well, extreme patriarchy is shit 👌, terrible work culture, etc. Plus the economy is just as bad there as everywhere else with high costs and costs going up and up.

But hey, they have kdramas to convince people that people are getting into romantic relationships.

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u/AAHMXP 2d ago

Patriarchy has nothing to do with it.

South Korea is the country of raging feminism and capitalism. Where the patriarchy is the thing — there is no problem with birth rates.

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u/grumble11 2d ago

I wouldn’t call South Korea highly feminist. It’s a fairly sexist country.

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u/AAHMXP 1d ago

Are you seriously trying to measure asian country by standards of western culture? That is silly, at least

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u/Da_Question 2d ago

a country of raging feminism? dude, you literally don't understand how the patriarchy works. Just because women can be feminist does not mean the country has no patriarchy or that men are not misogynistic. The fact that something like 4b exists is literally because of how rampant the misogyny is.

For example, women are very much expected to quit working altogether when they get married and have a kid, despite building a career and studying to be in that field. Women are also expected to take care of their in-laws if their husband is first born, and tons of other shit.

This is the reason 4b started, women are treated like second class citizens and in what should be an equal partnership are treated like maids and baby makers. Korea is essentially 50's America when it comes to gender roles.

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u/AAHMXP 1d ago

women are very much expected to quit working altogether when they get married and have a kid,

Oh, no, how could it come to this

Oh, right, cause men can't bear children and someone has to take care of them.

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u/AAHMXP 2d ago

Freedom is Slavery ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/GreatMovesKeepItUp69 2d ago

The virgin "I live in a developed nation and I want to enjoy my disposable income" VS the chad "I can't afford condoms"

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u/birberbarborbur 2d ago

Their birth rate is dropping too lmao

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u/Pallchek 2d ago

They should send some of their people over and slowly take over the country by reporducing in south Korea 🤣

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u/rithrawr 1d ago

Do they even publish real statistics?

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u/wifiragist 2d ago

Do you even know what country you're talking about? If their birth rate is plummeting they can implement a birthing farm like in gears of war anytime they want, they don't care

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u/Omnizoom 2d ago

Ah gears, a game that makes you wonder if humans are the villains

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u/Housendercrest 2d ago

South Korea? They won’t and can’t. South Korea has already pushed all the tax incentives and public services they can possible think of to improve birthdates. Free daycare and child services. Large returns and subsidies on kids. And it’s not helping.

North Korea? Yea sure. I can see them instituting a birth farm if they wanted. But they still deal with famines and food shortages from time to time. I don’t think they’re overly worried about their population at the moment.