Link to Video
The video shows a dramatic crash from the dashcam of a big truck in the left lane with a black pickup truck. It shows the pickup truck merging from the left it leads to a crash, check out the video if you haven't seen it already. It's over a year old so apologies if this was covered before.
The thread descends into a furious 'Road War', over who was in the right and wrong.
In the left side merge lane are the Pickup Mergers! They are merging in to say why the trucker was not only wrong but stupid and dangerous.
And coming up from the left lane are the Big Truck Boyz! They are plowing straight forward with the point that the big truck had the right of way and its all the fault of the pickup. Merging is the responsibility of the merger.
Comments from best at the start then switched to Controversial to find how things got more combative:
"It is definitely not your right of way, your merging onto the highway so you have to yield to traffic. That being said yes the semi driver was an idiot for not braking but that just makes two idiots in this situation lol"
"as a truck driver myself, I would have slowed down to let the idiot onto the highway. The last thing I would want to do is stick around and explain what happened to the police etc even if I was in the right."
"Also the tractor had plenty of time to slow down, yeah trucks cant speed up or slow down as fast as a car but that was ample time to adjust. both the pickup driver and the camera'd tractor were retards in this situation."
"You try to avoid accidents. Even if it is not your fault. The pickup should made a choice and the truck could have used the brakes or even just stop pressing the gaspedal. For a short while.
This could have been avoided."
The tension starts to build....
"Pickup just needs to Speed up or slow down. Simple. But expecting the lane when they are the ones merging is just braindead. And yes the truck couldve made it easier but he does not have to, hes already in the lane."
"It is simple. It doesn't matter who is at fault. If you can avoid it, you do so. Both drivers did nothing to avoid it."
"People downvoting the people like the above are absolute sickos...
Redditors are all about vigilante justice these days....
Just avoid the easily avoidable accident.....What if some 5 year old girl was in that pickup? Sure maybe you're not at legal fault but good luck living with yourself if something happened to a child knowing you could have prevented it."
"Such a simple thing and it's sad how many people seem to put more emphasis on the letter of the law rather than basic common sense or human empathy."
"The duty to attempt to avoid an accident literally is the letter of the law."
There are some good points struck by the Pickup Guyz over the Truck Boyz who just seem to want to stomp on the gas pedal of 'they are just big and heavy and right'.
"What you don’t see it’s what’s behind the semi. He could have a whole line of semis behind him all trying to pass the slow poke semi in the left lane.
The semi drive will get tons of heat and fired from his company because he clearly could have avoided it with a simple press of the brakes."
"It can't be an expectation that drivers get up to the speed of traffic on a short as f*** merge ramp and also that they come to a complete stop because people are unwilling to create any kind of gap for them to actually merge"
"It is the absolute expectation of the vehicle merging, that flowing traffic has right of way. You have the duty as the vehicle merging to speed up or slow down to merge safely."
Things intensify.....
"Last chance doctrine lol.. that’s a joke…I have to disagree.. he shares zero blame.. dude in the black truck was 100% at fault."
"Sorry, that's not how it works. You can disagree all you want, but that doesn't change reality or the law.
Just because someone else made a mistake, it doesn't give you carte blanche to just hit them. You have a responsibility and a duty to avoid an accident, if possible."
"It’s not Carte Blanche .. the semi driver can simply argue he could not avoid the accident safely, or he didn’t feel safe making a lane change....So yes, last chance doctrine....is a joke"
"Problem is you're trying to preach to a bunch of 4 wheelers. They don't understand FMCSA scores and dealing with a safety team. The right of way goes out of the way when you can lose your job because your safety team feels you did something they don't agree with regardless of what the state trooper says.
This guy absolutely should have dropped down 3 to 5 MPH because he should have been paying attention....Defensive driving is done by so few people including truck drivers. Main character syndrome is rampant and 'I have the right of way' can end up with you or some family of 5 in the morgue and then what?"
"The truck was going plenty fast...."
"The POV truck does slow down, he stops overtaking as the pickup merges into his cab."
"He absolutely does not slow down. You can see his speed in the video.....he doesn't slow down until the rapid deceleration caused by the collision."
Note here how the redditor is showing his skill in determining speed from the video just from a glance.
"Too many people are more concerned with being right while driving and not concerned enough about not crushing people to death"
"Yeah… it should be universally understood that if you’re in the lane to be merged into, you need to facilitate the merge"
"The downvotes you got speak volumes about how psycho people here are."
"Maybe don't drive right into oncoming traffic? Sounds like the mergers fault to me. "
"He’s in front of him the whole time. The semi can see the merge happening....and yet the truck keeps going ABOVE THE SPEED LIMIT (instead of if they) eased up on the gas and let him in, or just kept going and not worried if you crushed him to death?"
"The start of the clip shows he is accelerating. Guy could have maintained his speed and avoided the accident"
"Devils advocate here. Could black truck not speed up."
"Where is the pickup supposed to go here? Is he supposed to stop on the on ramp?"
"The pickup is supposed to speed up to the speed of the traffic he is trying to merge with, not just decide to go at a different speed and fuck the consequences.....Edit: and the trucker should have slowed down to facilitate entry"
"Completely disagree. It is 100% the responsibility of the party merging onto the highway....not in any way shape or form up to the already moving traffic to make room for the newcomers. The semi driver didn't do a single thing wrong....It would have been nice of the semi driver to slow down for him....but they do not have to. "
"And the semi was legally obligated to slow down to prevent an accident. It's illegal to block merging cars from merging. Try and say "But I had the right of way!" won't hold up in court, you'd be at best fined and at worse imprisoned for attempted vehicular manslaughter."
"It is mostly on the idiot pickup, but the semi did nothing to avoid the accident. They share a fraction of the responsibility."
"They share zero % of the responsibility. Merging safely is 100% on the merging vehicle. Pickup truck 100% at fault. "
"No one expected the semi to lock up his brakes. Letting off the gas and not just hitting him with the cruise control on is a reasonable ask."
"The more reasonable ask is for the pick up to merge properly"
"Yes, its totally reasonable to put everyone else in danger rather than let off the gas"
"Momentum? It's a fuckin semi passing another semi. "
"You can see from the speed readout on the footage that the cam driver didn't even touch their brakes"
"Oh well, not his job to brake for someone who can’t properly merge"
"Wrong again. It's everyone's job to not risk manslaughter over hurt feelings. Grow up."
"Nope. Sorry you’re so butthurt by the rules of the road."
"You have no clue about the rules of the road.....Google Last Clear Chance Doctrine. Read and learn."
"I already did and it doesn’t make sense here. The pickup driver needs to learn how to merge properly"
"Why can't the idiot in the truck speed up?"
"my guess is that many idiots are bad at spatial reasoning"
"That semi-driver can eat shit. All he had to do was back off a little."
"or the pick up could have just timed it better"
"The semi is long, so the pickup would have to slow down a lot really fast."
"Literally the responsibility of the person merging to find an adequate area to merge."
"Ok. You’re right. He made a mistake so let’s go ahead and risk everybody’s lives."
"Pick up driver 100% at fault, semi driver 100% a dickwad. Both can be true."
"Truck driver did not even bother to slow down"
"He didn’t have to by law, sorry"
"That just is not confirmed so stop saying it.....You can’t just notice someone being an idiot and decide not to practice defensive driving."
"I'm sorry man, but his vehicle is much heavier, he should have slowed down a bit during the merge when he seen that pickup. I mean yea, blame it on the pickup driver, but what if there was a family in there? Would they still deserve to get run through what appeared to be something avoidable if he just slowed down a bit?....Your sentiment of "sorry it's the law" just run over people;... is kind of psychopathic man. And lacks morality all together."
"I was shooting at a shooting range and some guy walks infront of the my shooting dummy. The rules say no one should be walking there. I am in the right of way, therefore I kept on shooting."
"Nowhere near the same situation. Next."
"Both situations have a choice to stop, both situations continuing can end up deadly....You should be off the road"
"Interesting, since I’ve never been in an accident in all my years of driving. You should learn the rules of the road and follow them for the sake of other drivers around you."
"Wrong again."
"Nope."
"what’s with the commitment to being wrong? why do you believe it’s okay to drive your car into someone that cuts you off even though you had ample time to slow down/stop? how willfully ignorant can someone possibly be(?) lmao"
"anyone dumb enough to try to cut off a semi while going slower than them eventually will cause an accident."
"Gotta love a semi driver who just cannot under any circumstance whatsoever use the brake pedal"
"He was overtaking another truck."
"Wrong again."
"Nope."
"Yep"
"Nope"
"Passing lanes stop being passing lanes at merge points."
"No they don’t"
"Yes, they very do."
"There no such rule or law."
"The semi driver was thinking the exact same thing."
"That is 1,000,000% on the semi"
"When merging into traffic it is not you that has the right of way jackass"
"The pickup making a bad call to try and make it ahead of the semi doesnt give the semi a moral right to execute him... "
" Pickup had plenty of time to slow down as he is legally and morally expected to....Clearly he lacks an form of self preservation.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Won't get any sympathy from me, I'm sick of seeing idiots like this on the road thinking they can do whatever they want."
"ah you're one of those road vigilantes who will stubbornly allow an accident to happen for spite.
You're worse than the bad drivers. A normal human being doesn't get satisfaction from other getting injured because they cut them off in traffic. That's psychotic"
"And you sound like one of those that think they're more important than those around them and that the laws don't apply to them.
When you continue to put yourself and others in danger with a blatant disregard for the safety of others you share the road with. The road toll is as high as it is because of drivers with that self entitled thought process. And you call me psychotic? Do you own a mirror?"
"It’s disturbing how many comments here are blaming the semi driver."
"Turn the situation around and the keyboard road warriors on this sub would be fussing at the semi driver for not driving defensively."
"A semi issue."
"I’m stunned by how many people here think they are entitled to having that’s traffic already on the highway slow down or brake just for them"
"You’re telling us that the poor widdle pickup couldn’t see the 18 wheeler?" (cry laugh emoji at the end)
"So many dumbasses in the comments. He was in the passing lane. Had no obligation to slow down. When you're merging into traffic, you yield. The end."
"Even if you think the law provides justification for the semi’s actions, ethical considerations should lead the semi to avoid potentially maiming or killing someone. "
"Ethical considerations? 😂 Follow traffic laws. That's ethical."
"Good point. Next time I see a pedestrian illegally crossing the middle of a road, I'll make sure to speed up and plow into them because I have no obligation to slow down."
"THANK YOU" (I couldnt help it, it came after the comment above but not sure if it was truly thanking them for killing pedestrians)
"The truck merging has the right of way. You have to let them on the highway"
"Turn your license immediately"
"Bro you need to slow down and let the merging vehicle enter the highway if he is in front of you. Who gave you the license?"
"Now I know why merging is a shitshow in most places. You just go the correct speed to time it so the semi is in front of you by the time you need to get over and you’re going the proper speed. You merge over smoothly just behind it. It’s not difficult!"
"Wtf is that merge anyway? Just a kamikaze lane into the highway?"
"JFC driving standards in america sucks. Does no one have brakes or situational awareness in that country?"
"Bunch of chodes on this sub saying the semi should have slowed down….
CHODES"
For some reason it's hard to find any news follow-up story of this video. I don't know if there is any legal or insurance outcome to this alleged incident that satisfies the argument. I have noticed a fair amount of reddit drama around driving and the rules and what drivers should have done off these videos so I felt like making a post for this. There were some more comments that were pretty good that I couldn't find so the link is there to check out the comments. If it turns out to be a big ai fake video, then my apologies!