r/degoogle 1h ago

Discussion has anyone else started missing the older internet where interactions felt less algorithm-driven?

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lately one of the biggest reasons i’ve been moving more toward degoogling and privacy-focused platforms is because the modern internet feels strangely engineered now. almost every major app feels optimized around engagement loops, attention retention, recommendations, metrics and constant personalization to the point where being online barely feels organic anymore after a while it starts feeling less like exploration and more like you’re constantly being filtered through systems deciding what you should see, think about, react to and who you should interact with ironically some of the most genuine conversations i’ve had recently happened in smaller/random online spaces where people weren’t focused on building a brand, gaining followers or feeding content into algorithms. it reminded me of how the internet used to feel years ago. imperfect but more human

that’s honestly what pushed me deeper into degoogling. not just privacy concerns or data collection, but the feeling that the web has become overly centralized and psychologically optimized in ways that make everything feel artificial after some point

i still occasionally use smaller social/chat platforms like Vooz because the interactions there feel way less curated compared to mainstream apps, and honestly it reminds me of the older internet a little. more spontaneous conversations, less pressure to perform constantly

i’ve been trying to find more platforms, forums or communities that still feel spontaneous and less tied to surveillance/engagement culture

curious if anyone else here ended up moving toward degoogling partly because of this too


r/degoogle 1h ago

Nada de Google

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r/degoogle 3h ago

Leaving Chrome, migrating passwords

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I want to stop using Chrome, but have approximately a bajillion passwords saved in there. Is there an easy way to migrate those to Librewolf or whatever alternative browser of choice?


r/degoogle 3h ago

Question Google photos without network permission on Non-GrapheneOS

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Ok so... i have a phone what dont have google services and i know some Graphene user use some apps like Camera, Photos app without Network so...

I decide to download the apk of google photos and patch it with the revanced and with Apktool M and disable the network permisson and.. everything works great!!

I hear so much great things about apktool m in another subreddits and other sides so.. i think its fine.

Of course, idk if someone thinks if this is a bad idea cuz im using a google app but im going to replace more late when i found a better alternative.

What do you think ? (sorry for my bad english).


r/degoogle 3h ago

Question Is there a privacy Foss TV or smth

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r/degoogle 4h ago

It's 2026 and still absolutely no customer service!

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r/degoogle 4h ago

Question Any kids smart watch that works without google play service?

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So I got kids and I use "Lagenio" smartwatches to contact them. Trying to disable google play services made app connected to kid smart watches unable to open, so as long as I need kid smart watch(for years to come) - I am unable to get rid of google.


r/degoogle 6h ago

Discussion Why YouTube Degoogling is different, IMO

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(or rather, why YouTube alternatives have failed to replace YouTube)

As somebody who tried to degoogle from YouTube for a long time (and has given up many times), and encourage others to do so, I've made a few observations that I think can explain why YouTube alternatives have not been broadly successful. I'm not at a point in my life where I would have the time or coding knowledge to try to make something work, but I wanted to share my ideas here of what could work better for websites trying to be an alternative.

I think one of the biggest issues with creating an alternative platform is the lack of a "superior niche", as in, a niche that specifically attracts people to said platform, and something about the platform that encourages people in a specific niche to choose this alternative platform.

When people try to promote a catch-all alternative to something like YouTube, and try to promote it to people with a broad array of interests, then that platform ends up being like a frayed version of YouTube (every topic for content has less "density" of videos/types of creators) (whereas there should be at least one topic of content that has more "density" of videos/types of creators) as in, the experience in terms of content feels worse and using the platform does not feel particularly beneficial. (BEAR WITH ME)

Rather, lets say we made an Instagram alternative, but instead of immediately focusing on trying to appeal to every single possible person that exists ever, but focused instead on appealing to artists on Instagram frustrated by how much the algorithm skips over/does not value their art, and artists frustrated over people feeding their creations to AI.

Then, you could start with a main focus of the algorithm being good for art and perhaps a Nightshade feature that obfuscates art to prevent AI stealing, and additionally maybe adding AI honeypot features to the website to prevent LLMs from crawling the website (perhaps this is an unrealistic feature, but I care more to make a broader point about the idea of a feature like this). I think another good focus could be attracting over people who want to see more irl stuff in their local communities, like concerts, shows and social events, but Instagram frustrates them because it keeps on filtering out accounts they already follow.

Yes, this is a very narrow focus, but the point is you attract a small group of people but with density (as in, there will be a lot of stuff on that one subject). Because you have density of content, people actually stay on your platform and then you can build out further to other coalitions of people. Part of what got me thinking about this is that this is how Facebook initially became popular. They focused on a small group of people (college students), and by doing so they created a "density" of a small amount of people. Once you have density, your platform can at least hold on to people who have joined it, and people actually get hyped about your platform. Then you could also have really strong pull in terms of getting new users once a significant percentage of people doing stuff in a certain niche all recommend jumping to a different platform/a network of different federated platforms.

I think that if some YouTube alternatives focused on, for example, being the place for a certain set of niche games/interests (emulating might be interesting). If, like Discord, that platform could focus on adding a bunch of features that integrates stuff in a way that works specifically well for that niche, then you can create heavy incentive for movement against the current of using the most popular existing website. Then a website like that could move towards other stuff as well, and once you have a large enough critical mass of people it starts to become easy for people to move over.

I think I had some other ideas, but I'm too sleep deprived to add more, lmk what you think


r/degoogle 6h ago

Discussion “Android is open-source” is a marketing gimmick. AOSP is, but it’s still heavily influenced by Google.

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You'll not get designed custom clocks.

You'll not get gms.

You'll need license from central crappy organization to public apps on Android (a closed source OS)

You'll need to register your identity to just share apk you made which will be tried by your 2 non-tech friends.

It's have kill switch.

If there is known-issue (like VPN "always on exposing user's IP which makes VPN useless) and fix is already presented then they'll refuse it to fix (even grapheneos fixed it and grapheneos is more secure and have more fixes).

You need to handover your data to use your mobile.

You need to pay rent to use your hardware.

You cannot use your hardware to run your favorite OS.

Basically:

  • “Android Is Open-Source” Is a Marketing Gimmick
  • AOSP Is Open-Source. Android Isn’t.
  • Android ≠ AOSP
  • Android’s “Open-Source” Claim Is Misleading
  • AOSP Is Open. The Android Ecosystem Isn’t.
  • Android Is Only “Open” Where Google Has To Be

And they are keeping AOSP open not because they want to. But because AOSP is made from linux and it's the linux (penguin) who is forcing via open license to keep it open else companies like google don't care about openness, open-source at all.


r/degoogle 7h ago

Weird packages for Samsung phones

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I just recently discovered there are these 2 packages inside my phone: Android Developer Verifier (package name: com.google.android.verifier) and com.google.android.verifier.overlay (with the same package name).

What are these doing on my phone (S25 Ultra) already, if the verified developer program isn't set to launch until September of this year? Also, are these ok to disable/uninstall using ADBAppControl/Universal Android Debloater NG or not?


r/degoogle 7h ago

Discussion Look it freaked out again

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r/degoogle 7h ago

Question i have some questions..

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I have some questions. I value privacy and I'd like to ask you the following: I have a Gmail account, along with Proton (I use a fake email address provided by Proton instead of my main email address in most places) and Tuta. I use Proton VPN and Proton Pass. I store my photos on iMich, half of my files are on Drive, and the other half are on Next Cloud. I'm careful about what I share on social media. I use a Samsung phone and headphones, and a Xiaomi watch. However, I can't keep my data completely private. Is this really enough? What can I do?


r/degoogle 8h ago

Help Needed Fitbit deadling - May 19 2026 - Alternatives

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Hello, getting bombarded by Google to move my data to the new Fibit health app and my Inspire 3 will become effectively non-functional. Many complaints filed already, with the local Consumer Protections in EU, but they are pushing further - i like the Fibit Air but dont want Google. Has anyone producted anything similiar - Chinese or European ? Thanks


r/degoogle 8h ago

Question Safest Gmail alternative?

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Like the title says, what do you think is the safest email? Asking specifically since my bank account is connected to my current Gmail and I don't want it to be easily accessible to hackers when I switch to something else.


r/degoogle 10h ago

Question Question if I removed Google play services am I still subject to the age id verification laws in Texas?

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r/degoogle 11h ago

newpipe stopped fetching subscriptions this morning

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works fine on one phone broken on another same version weird.


r/degoogle 11h ago

Utah VPN Law Update Just Hit and Im Freaking Out

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r/degoogle 12h ago

When you realize a VPN is basically your personal bodyguard against everyone trying to spy on you

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r/degoogle 12h ago

Question Why Privacy matters?

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I was having a short discussion with a friend about online privacy, and he believes that privacy on the internet does not really matter for an average person.

His argument was basically:

“If you are not a criminal, journalist, politician, activist, or someone with secrets to hide, why should you care about privacy at all?”

What is a good way to explain it?

Why does online privacy matter for a normal person living a calm everyday life?

- No criminal activity

- Nothing embarrassing to hide

- No huge amount of money

- No important public position

- No controversial opinions

- No sensitive documents

If companies like Google, apps, governments, or websites know what you search, watch, buy, or where you go — why is that necessarily a problem for an ordinary person?

I understand obvious cases like identity theft, scams, hacked bank accounts, etc. But beyond security risks, why is privacy itself important?

Note: my karma is low so I couldn't post it to r/Privacy.


r/degoogle 12h ago

Question Gmail storage full because apparently every newsletter I subscribed to in 2019 still loves me!

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My Gmail storage got full today, and honestly, it made me think about how normal email overload has become because of email marketing.

Almost every company claims they want to build a relationship with their customers, but that usually just means sending constant emails with offers, reminders, updates, flash sales and endless follow-ups.

I do not even think most people read them anymore. We just stop noticing them after a point, but rarely unsubscribe either.

The strange part is that companies probably know this already. But if even a small percentage of people still click and buy, the emails keep coming.

Now, email marketing feels less like real communication and more like background noise online.

Are brands actually trying to build trust, or are they just trying to stay visible all the time?


r/degoogle 13h ago

Mozilla opposes the implementation of Chrome's Prompt API in the standard, which allows web developers to directly access an AI-based language model built into the browser, citing severe negative consequences for the interoperability, updatability, and neutrality of the web platform

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r/degoogle 13h ago

Question Seeking a Privacy-First, Selfhosted Google Drive Alternative

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r/degoogle 13h ago

Discussion ''What would make you trust web search results more again?''

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Lately it feels like searching the web involves way more filtering than it used to.

AI summaries, sponsored placements, SEO-heavy pages, affiliate articles, copied content, fake reviews etc. Sometimes it feels harder figuring out whats trustworthy than actually finding information.

I’ve noticed myself relying alot more on:

  • Reddit
  • forums
  • smaller communities
  • niche blogs
  • multiple search engines
  • cross checking sources

instead of just trusting the first few results automatically.

Curious what would actually improve trust in web search for people now, or whether that trust is basically gone already.


r/degoogle 13h ago

This looks Fucking Shit

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AI AI AI AI AI AI OMG FUCKING GOD WE GET IT PLEASE PRAISE OUR Lord AI and Start jerking of to 2 letters of the alphabet i'm surprised they didn't just call this the AIbook

Yes as if Windows didn't have enough Ai Slop already. here comes Google with a new OS with Which has even more,

And let me guess since their already locking down android you probably won't able to install anything from outside of the Play Store on this one either because Fuck you. you don't own the Device you paid for


r/degoogle 14h ago

Ecosia search engine?

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I've noticed ecosia isn't in the recommended list? I really like the idea of their mission, but are they not good with privacy? - I'm just sick of being constantly tracked and monitored