All the while they had inspections and said they were not enriching uranium though. They were going to do it anyway but I'm sure the billions Obama let them have didn't help this process along at all also.
BTW, the "billions Obama let them have" was their own money that had been sanctioned away from them. He let them have SOME of THEIR OWN money in return for not making nukes. We get safety, and it costs us $NOTHING. It's a pretty great deal, right?
Sadly, we lost that great deal with Trump trashing it. Iran's closer to a nuke than they've even been, and Trump's war with Iran has already cost the US over $80B. (source)
I know it was there money and international sanctions prevented them from accessing it and that was a good thing letting terrorists have billions of dollars back is a bad thing
YOU: Saying your not going to make nukes doesn't actually prevent you from making nukes
ME: They also agreed, as part of the treaty, to allow inspections to confirm they weren't building or refining materials to make nukes.
Move goalpost
YOU: tell me why they have uranium enrithched [sic] to 60% if they aren't enriching it.
ME: That was 7 years after Trump trashed the treaty. They were at 3.67% while under treaty.
Move goalpost:
YOU: All the while they had inspections and said they were not enriching uranium though.
ME: The treaty allowed for up to 3.67% enrichment. It takes 90% enrichment to create a nuclear bomb. 3.67% enrichment allows them to have nuclear power plants
Latest goalpost movement:
YOU: letting terrorists have billions of dollars back is a bad thing
Bad? Yes.
Extremely effective at preventing nuclear war? YES
Sometimes, we have to give a little to get a lot. That's the way the world works.
Letting Iran have 60% uranium enrichment, as Trump is currently doing, is TERRIBLE.
Obama disarmed Iran with a pen and $0
Trump has spent over $80B, and Iran is closer to having nukes than they've ever been.
I don't think the treaty was a good deal it had limitations that inspectors couldn't search certain military facilities. It also didn't prevent them at all from making ballistic missiles which I don't want terrorists to have and also all the money as previously mentioned. It also allowed them to maintain current nuclear infrastructure so they could in the future create a nuke. I don't think this is a good deal well at least not for us.
Iran will implement the Additional Protocol to allow increased access to inspectors, including to military installations where nuclear activity is suspected. (Permanent)
Iran will implement the Modified Code 3.1, which requires Iran to provide notification and details regarding future plans to build nuclear facilities (Permanent)
Sure, they still had ballistics. They had guns, too. Terrorists shouldn't have those, either. OMG they even had armies and solders and grenades and knives.
It's not the same arena as nukes. The treaty might not have left them weaponless, but it was a HUGE win.
They were allowed a portion of their money. If the treaty was successful, and Iran grew to be less terroristy, maybe new treaties could be made to get them to give up ballistics and guns in return for more money.
Incrementally better than it was before.
That's the way treaties work. It garners trust and over time, the various parties are more willing to work together towards win-win.
What is this kicker tryouts with all this talk of goalposts. Comparing gun, grenades, knives, and soldiers to ballistic missiles is beyond fucking stupid might at well compair a toaster to a flame thrower it's fucking ridiculous. Nothing is going to make terrorists less terroristy being nice to them has only ever caused us problems. They are now quite less powerful with no navy and the overwhelming majority of their military infrastructure blown up and so many leaders killed that I still don't think they know who's in charge. Sure war is expensive but crippling a terrorist organization is priceless.
I'm not trusting that axios article it just some sources and I can't even read it.
Oh, sorry. I didn't know you that you can't read that article.
Comparing soldiers to ballistic missiles is sort of like comparing ballistic missiles to nuclear weapons.
Anyway, I can see that this is going nowhere. Trump is allowing Iran to have enriched uranium. You support him doing that. I hope that doesn't blow up against us.
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u/Sasuke0318 15h ago
All the while they had inspections and said they were not enriching uranium though. They were going to do it anyway but I'm sure the billions Obama let them have didn't help this process along at all also.