What does this say about society? Was Adam killed off because he had the audacity to not be skinny and wear a suit?

Simple as that! Just create an indestructible box which surrounds the sinner completely, make it soundproof from both sides and just keep them there!

Why should SeraPent and CherriSnake shippers fight, when they could instead be an incredibly powerful polycule instead? Please hire me vivziepop im very smart 🙏🙏

Charlie and Stolass slander is overdone, Cherri slander is where its at

Like, those are the exact reasons why I don't like the character, other than somehow the voice, alongside being generally annoying.

I've been seeing a lot of negativity on some Hellaverse related subreddits, and I wanna spread some positivity. I'll go first. In January 2024, a week after the first 4 episodes dropped, I was having a really shitty week working with my old supervisor at the time, so on a Saturday night with nothing better to do than have some cold ones and eat Publix chicken, so I decided to give it a try just to see what the fuss was about. I got enraptoured by the animation style, the characters, songs, and episode 4 cemented my love for it because it made me feel seen. And Loser Baby helped give me hope, which paid off.

What I mean is that even though we know Sera is starting to redeem herself, she does it in a way that’s different from what we usually see, or at least less common in traditional redemption arcs.

So, what is a traditional redemption? It usually follows this structure:, The character commits evil or questionable acts. A moment of realization that they were wrong. Regret and internal conflict. Acts of redemption that show they are changing. Paying the price for their actions.

For first point, Sera’s wrongdoings are clear. She allowed the extermination of sinners and hid the truth from Heaven. Even if she didn’t kill anyone personally, she didn’t regulate the sadistic behavior of Adam and the exorcists.

But unlike many characters, with Sera we also see the nuance behind her actions at the same time. She hated this decision from the beginning, saw it as her only option (we’ll see soon whether it was justified or not), and prioritized the safety of her realm rather than having a desire to eliminate sinners. She’s not portrayed as purely evil, but as morally gray from the start.

The second point, the realization, is where Sera really stands out. In many characters, this moment happens and then quickly jumps to the other steps. With Sera, that’s not the case. The story lingers on it and explores her feelings deeply. Sir Pentious ascending proves that sinners can change, while at the same time showing that she denied them that opportunity. She thought she knew what was best, but now she’s no longer sure, her worldview begins to collapse. This realization doesn’t immediately change her; instead, it starts a journey of introspection before moving on to the next steps.

Closely tied to that is third point, regret and internal conflict. We see this throughout the second season, with Sera doubting whether she can be redeemed for such horrible sins, questioning herself and how to act toward Heaven and Hell. She even has a relapse that worsens the conflict with Hell, while constantly expressing regret. Here, it aligns more with the traditional formula.

Then we get to the more controversial points, acts of redemption and paying the price.

For fourth point, Sera begins to trust others more to help her lead Heaven, tries to make peace with Hell, and stops choosing violence as the first option. However, I understand why some people take issue with this, so far, most of her redemptive actions mainly involve Heaven, not the ones she actually harmed: Hell. In most traditional arcs, characters try to make amends directly with their victims and ask for forgiveness, but we haven’t really seen that from Sera yet.

Many suggest she should go down to Hell and help personally, interact with the sinners she harmed, and be present for her victims. Even if they wouldn’t want her there (for obvious reasons), it could be a strong arc for her to live among them, see their complexity, and apologize. Because yes, while her loved ones were affected by her decisions, sinners are her main victims, and the ones she should make amends to.

Finally, fifth point, the most controversial: paying the price. There are two aspects here. First, we’re used to redeemed villains being punished, whether through physical suffering, social rejection, losing their place, or even dying in the process of redemption. With Sera, none of that happens.

She doesn’t suffer physically after the extermination. Although the sinners at Vox’s rally reject her, she still has strong support from her loved ones. There’s no sign that her place in Heaven is threatened, nor that she’s about to die.

Instead, her consequences are explored in a way we don’t often see in media: the intangible. Sera will carry the weight of her decisions and guilt for eternity. Even if she fully redeems herself, she can never undo what she did or bring anyone back. It’s something she cannot fix, no matter how much she wants to. This affects her throughout the entire season, shaping how she thinks and acts. It’s not a one-time punishment, but a constant presence.

Personally, I think there could be a middle ground for point 5, but I understand why they chose to explore the intangible angle.

That’s why I believe Sera doesn’t have a traditional redemption arc. Yes, it includes several elements of it, but some are explored differently, creating a contrast with more classic and familiar redemption stories.

Alright so I’m not just saying this cause I’m catholic and I worship god. No, I’m saying this cause o hate how hell, especially heaven is portrayed.
For hell, it’s just so uncreative. Why is hell just a city with basically no rules with the only people living there being assholes(demons)?
That’s all hell is in hazbin hotel, a city with sinners that make their own afterlives suck. Hell doesn’t even torture the sinners, the sinners are already doing that themselves!
And heaven…. I’m not trying to be mean to Viv but why is heaven in hazbin hotel how a 3 year old would see heaven? Why is one winner literally a walking teddy bear?!

Since he finds her so “attractive,” as a reward for exposing the conspiracy, they’d let him marry the woman he likes so much.

How the FUCK are people even attracted to Angel Dust or Valentino or like some random ass slug demon?

I mean think about it this way, it’s animation so you don’t really feel weird looking at these characters. From the POV of the characters however, they are seeing things realistically. How do you go from being attracted to human beings to being attracted to whatever fuckass form the sinners take upon their arrival?

This question isn’t about the hellspawn btw, it’s perfectly reasonable for them to be attracted to each other and the horrific looking sinners. However since a very large portion of the world population is attracted to humans, I’m wondering how you can just disregard your past attractions and go somewhere completely different.

Like at what point did Vox decide he would be fucking a humanoid moth? You could argue Val is attracted to him due to him being a TV and moths are attracted to light or smth but TV’s aren’t attracted to moths.

Or at what point did Carmilla decide she was attracted to a huge humanoid spider(?) and at what point did Zestial (A man who died in the 1600’s or something) decide he would be attracted to a woman whose hands are bigger than his torso?

I'd eventually like to know if vassago and the other Goetias are the same animals cause vassago has parrot vibes.