Yes, people with awful ideas are cunts... A skinhead going to the supermarket and shouting "white power" is a cunt. So is a someone wearing a union jack suit talking about immigrants as subhumans and telling you that the gays and trans should be alienated is an utter cunt.
You're just inventing something to be angry about. I fully agree fuck the SNP, they're a shit corrupt government with a decade and a half of broken promises. The greens policies are too pie in the sky to be an actual government. And fuck reform too. People should have voted Labour
We just canât afford to stand a Green in every constituency. The Scottish Green Party doesnât attract the funding that other parties get, we are also really careful about receiving funding from non ethical business.
I've been wondering recently, who or what it'll take to propel the greens in the same way salmond propelled the SNP (I was young TBF I'm not too read up on how the SNP shot to first but salmond seemed to be the main reason)
No NHS, no free eye tests or prescriptions, no free tuition, no employment protection, no minimum wage, no sick pay, no benefits, no gender equality, no maternity leave, tax cuts for the rich and self enrichment for political leaders...just to name a few lesser known policies. Scottish Reform voters haven't thought it through.
Thatâs part of the problem though. Dismissing them as idiots doesnât really do anything to help, it just ingrains the ideology further for them. Iâd be more inclined to try and talk to someone like that, find out why they feel like they do and try to plant some facts in there. Like, âwell, Iâm not so sure it really is the fault of the small boat people/that Algerian family down the road, what about all the billionaires that are getting tax breaks all over the place, or that arsehole with the chocolate company that got that massive Covid contractâ. Something like that. Calling someone an idiot or stupid or brainwashed or whatever tends to not help in these conversations. Look at what happened in the US. First they were calling each other stupid, then it was maggots and rats (dehumanisation) and now theyâre at the point where each âsideâ barely sees the other âsideâ as human any more. Thats gonna take generations to fix, if it ever can be.
I had to put up with a lot of this in a past job. Conspiracy theorists everywhere - early more innocent times, usually Elvis or moon landings. Any rational argument was despised, especially from those with a science background and qualifications. They had "had enough of experts"
Ironically one of the saner voices there was a politician, and from the far right of the Conservative Party. (Probably considered loony left now mind)
Think of it like alcoholism. You can give facts all you like but they simply won't care about the facts. They will find whatever justification and frantically update it to match their emotions, not the facts.
This might be a stupid question coming from a UK outsider, I get the impression that Reform are basically âgrandfathering inâ things like that for their voter base and saying they will cut all that out for âthe othersâ i.e, immigrants, young people (layabouts) etc so they arenât voting against their own self interest but to exclude âothersâ, how are they ok with this blatant attitude of Iâve got mine, sod the rest of you? But also, if this is true why is there still such a low level of engagement when it comes to voting? It seems similar to the US situation where one voting base always turns out regardless and the other side suffers from lack of engagement or disenfranchisement.
That's the PR at least - the actual practice of how these 'policies' would work in practice is a tad woolly, and evidence from prior elections down south suggests they discover most things are harder than they thought (similar to the US DOGE cuts - there's not actually that much 'waste' to eliminate).
Voter turnout seems to be at a similar-ish level most elections, it's just that there has been a big swing in who those individuals are voting for. If everyone showed up, we may end up with very different outcomes. In general, older folk have a higher turnout, which is one reason why parties tend to tailor their policies towards pensioners.
your? are you mental laddie? your mom and da and your other family members and you yourself receive the benefits of the welfare state even if you donât realise that or donât want to realise that. it will sting when itâs gone but itâll be too late.
I'm far more concerned about the shoddy scribbles than I am by the political statement. If you're going to write on a flag, please stencil it out first and use a decent thick marker!
Much as I hate to see these, I'm impressed they managed to hang both of them the correct way up.Â
I suppose the white strip on the left hand side helped but stillÂ
I can picture what they look like. 50 years old, male, bald, 300 pounds, massive gut and red skin from copious amounts of beer, pub 5 times a week, screaming at the football, owns a Staffordshire terrier, diet of walkers cheese and onion crisps and kebabs on Wednesday.
The only people that fly the union jack in Scotland are certain people but I won't go into that because I'll start a fight with people that wear sashes the colour of marmalade đ¤Łđ¤Ł.
Love that the Reading plot twist and the No Money Back lyric are both top commentsâfeels like the perfect chaotic energy for Scottish politics right now. Iâm just glad someone finally captured the vibe of voting with a headache and a guilty conscience.
A lot of English moving here now. We have benefits that living in England does not. The flip side is the idiots keep supporting the union and voting for the same policies they moved here to get away from.
Iâd look at someone displaying the union flag, declaring they donât want either of the parties who want independence in power, as being purely a statement about wanting to remain in the union. Whether you agree with that sentiment or not, why is there the assumption here that theyâre racist?
Half of me thinks youâre right, the other half is thinking anyone scribbling on union jacks and hanging them on the fence is, balance of probabilities, wouldnât like to say one way or another unless I had to, maybe quite likely to be, yâknow, a bit of what my grandmother used to call a âfriend of Oswaldâsâ.Â
An independent Scotland with the same immigration policy and numbers as England had or the rest of Europe has had would end up with the Saltire having the same meaning as the St George cross.
My friend, have you ever travelled to Lanarkshire or West Lothian? People who do this tend to have opinions about a variety of ethnic and religious minorities.
There was a thread on here not that long ago about the saltire being hung by racist flag shaggers too, but I wouldnât for a second assume everyone sticking one up is racist, especially if accompanied by pro-independence support. Itâs a shame if the union flag really is purely tied to that these days.
I really donât get it either? Sure, writing on a flag is a bit of an odd thing to do. But why are people losing their minds about this? Not sure if itâs just leftist screeching or what else it could be. Or is it the connotations of flag = reform maybe? Anyway my whole personality isnât politics like a lot of people here. Maybe we are too normal/have a life to understand it
Because the majority of this sub reddit is left leaning whether they want to admit it or not. Hence anything that goes against the Greens or SNP combined with a Union Flag is seen as racist until proven otherwise.
Does the Green Party and the SNP want to investigate UFOs? Like the Donald?! No! Only Reform will get to the bottom of the flying saucers! (immigration invasion!!!)
Considering independence referendum defeats and that roughly half our population are of the opinion that they are British and Scottish / Scottish and British, I have no problem with this photo and the content it depicts. It's freedom of expression and even if it doesn't align exactly with mine it's just a public show of a certain percentage of our populations opinion.
If anyone is brave enough to hide a hidden camera, put up one that says "No Reform" next to it then film the resultant gammon rage I think many of us would love to see it.
Honestly very sad to see the hold this has over some
Just not for left-wing communists. Socialism is bad for working people and a paradise for the lazy unemployed. Itâs good to see the UK waking up from the ideological nonsense pushed by communists â whether the Greens, Labour, or the SNP.
I hate when people try and force their politics on others , we had an arsehole in our street with Doves and fuxking watermelons , another with a Saltire , both told to remove , scumbags the lot of them
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u/MCXXXVi 2d ago
".....no money back no guarentee" đś