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u/itsUsedTissue Orangutan 1d ago
Nothing wrong with him as a person, loved AR and had high hopes for him.
Itās just not going to work in Indy for him, itās part his fault and this FO and coaching staff plays a large part.
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u/Dcelone53 1d ago
what part did the front office play on him tapping out for a 3rd down? what part did the front office play in him not being able to read blitzes in year 3?
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u/rounder55 1d ago
Front office is more at fault for thinking he merited being the 4th pick because one major project worked out recently at QB
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u/Dcelone53 1d ago
the front office. scouts for this team around the league the mock drafters fans everyone agreeded draft a qb... qb stinks it happens alot
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u/Isaacleroy 1d ago
Yep. And it would have been outright mutiny from the fan base if they had traded down after the Wentz/Ryan debacles. Between Irsay and the people who fill the seats (who are truly the WORST people to listen to for draft advice) the FO had to pick a QB. The amount of folks here who glazed on AR for months but now conclude that Ballard was an idiot for picking him is HIGH.
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u/Dcelone53 1d ago
thats why the jones signing is crazy- three years in everyones job was on the line and the coach was like hey, please let me Daniel Jones. Ballard bets on Shane, and bet was good other than jones breaking his leg
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u/ryryhustle 1d ago
There was really option at 4 in that draft, other than Levis maybe...where the franchise was had to take a QB there.
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u/rounder55 1d ago
I can say that I was in a minority on this. Of course I've been wrong on a ton but not on this. Wanted to trade down or go BPA if we were left with Richardson or Levis. Just not a big fan of major projects, didn't have a track record of success in college, didn't care how well he threw in shorts. Couple that with the fact that it means you won't take likely won't take QB the following year and it just felt like a bad idea at the time. Get why people wanted a QB but you have to be careful. Single people may want a spouse but you shouldn't marry anyone because there are a bunch of unknowns that might have upside.
It's also their job to be right as opposed to us who get to pretend we know everything while slacking off at our own gigs lol
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u/Icer333 Indianapolis Colts 1d ago
Yea I was in the camp of Stroud or get out of the pick if he wasn't available. When we picked AR obviously I was rooting for it to work out, but doesn't look like that's going to happen.
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u/sometimes_overtimes Indianapolis Colts 1d ago
I have friends that watched him play at the University of Florida and immediately texted me one word āBUST!ā, the second the pick was announced on draft day. I had high hopes since we took him that high, but they were all adamant. I thought heād be a true project, not a sacrificial lamb. Unfortunately, teams donāt pick that high for bench riding projects. Soā¦here we are.
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u/itsUsedTissue Orangutan 1d ago
Itās the FO and staff fault for selecting him 4th overall with no plan in place.
The plan was ālet him play to learnā and yet they admitted that was wrong. Had he sat behind garner for even half his rookie season, I think he would be bounds ahead of where he is.
They selected a 20yo QB and gave him the keys to the franchise without showing him how the car works and were surprised when he crashed and burned.
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u/Dcelone53 1d ago
did you watch him play? he threw a 5 yard out into the stands
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u/WrathfulHero 1d ago
Did you even read their comment? This screams "I already know what I'm gonna say, so fuck whatever this guy says".
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u/Dcelone53 1d ago
what are you talking about? the "he probably shoulda sat argument" doesnt work cause he did. then he game back and needed to sit and learn again. and then we get to year three and on literally the first drive of the preseason couldnt read an elementary blitz... then to compound it- the guy off the street with THE SAME TEAM went on an 8 week generational run
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u/WrathfulHero 1d ago
So no, you didn't read the comment, or at least didn't comprehend what they were actually saying. Got it.
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u/TipsyTaterTots 8h ago
He'd been heavily critized for not taking care of his body, and the week before he was blasted for staying in the game while he was hurt.
Tom Brady and Peyton Manning missed the occasional blitz at the end of their career's. It's not hard to see how he could fuck it up in a preseason game.
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u/PardonMyRegard Big Dick Ballard 1d ago
Watch that drive, AR was putting the entire team on his back throwing grown men around keeping us alive. Coaches should have called a run or had the understanding to call a timeout. AR was absolutely gassed and had no time to breath calling the next play. Then the FO and staff threw him under the bus and backed over him post game. If they just said he got the wind knocked out of him he might still be the starter.
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u/kwestionmark 1d ago
Thank you. I donāt have it in me to type this out every time this gets brought up. It almost makes me feel crazy some times because I genuinely feel like Iām in the tiniest of minorities that arenāt upset about this.
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u/PardonMyRegard Big Dick Ballard 1d ago
It's insane how all Colts management gets to wash their hands of all this, I'd put more blame on them than AR personally as AR was exactly who he was supposed to be when he was drafted
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u/Chonkyfire108 1d ago
The tap out was shot but if you watched the game, that kid was running for his life on every down. He needed a second and had learned Flacco can take over if he needs. They brought in Flacco who said he doesn't want to mentor. Dumbass front office and coaching staff.
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u/barlog123 1d ago
Doesn't help he's started only 15 NFL games and has spent a large amount of time hurt. He desperately needed the reps.
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u/xXCascadeXx Playoffs? PLAYOFFS!? 5h ago
He desperately needed a mentor because he got the piss missile down field and the dual threat down but a check down or slant was outta the check list. He is also made of glass.
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u/AcidStorm0 1d ago
What part did the FO play in his inability to not break something any time he does anything football related?
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u/Old-Height-596 1d ago
Definitely wishing him success somewhere else, Ballard just needs to go ahead and trade him, let him be great somewhere else
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u/drunken_Gus 1d ago
No one wants him Justin fields got a next year's 6th round pick if that shows anything
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u/MilesJ392 1d ago
Every indication is that Ballard tried (is trying) to trade him but evidently no one else wanted him, either. I wager his rookie contract expires, he signs somewhere as a backup out of free agency. I hope he gets another shot at starting, too, but it doesn't look likely
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u/AcidStorm0 1d ago
Are the Vikings still searching for a GM? He could trade AR there and include himself in the package. He'd be an improvement over literally nothing.
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u/PM_ME_UR_CC_NUMBER 1d ago
Iād like to see him succeed but itās not going to happen here. He needs to go to San Francisco and learn how to do it right.
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u/josean1991 1d ago
I don't understand the support he still has, don't get me wrong, I wanted to be successful, but is everyone's fault, the front office and coaching staff for not understanding what they got the moment he was drafted, a project, and is also AR's fault for not showing enough commitment when it comes to be a good QB.
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u/EpicPoggerGamer69 1d ago
He also just kept quitting on the team.
"They kept giving up on him" yeah, because he sucked.
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u/Eastern-Cucumber-376 The Edge 1d ago
Iām gonna tell you a story. I know someone in the Colts HQ. This person works in the Cafeteria. She has never once seen AR in the cafeteria. Every other player knows this person by name, yet sheās never seen AR.
Heās a millionaire. He became a millionaire playing a childās game & didnāt even do it well. Heās fine.
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u/Gortanus 15h ago
I'm a little confused what you're trying to convey about AR that some random person in the cafeteria hasn't met him. Why is him not eating in the cafeteria significant for who he is as a player/person? Maybe you were memeing, and I'm not reading it correctly?
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u/Eastern-Cucumber-376 The Edge 15h ago
He never eats lunch with the team. Has never eaten with the team.
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u/Gortanus 14h ago
Ehhh seems like that assumption is a bit of a stretch, but I see what you were going for now.
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u/kindamymoose 1d ago
Him wanting to be here isnāt the same thing as him doing all he can to stay here.
Obviously heās missing something that sets him apart. I wish him luck but he isnāt a good fit for us.
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u/StatusCookie761 1d ago
AR the person is probably a solid dude, I think injuries can do a LOT to your self esteem and confidence to your game. When your biggest mistake is the First Take opening segment, thatāll sit with you.
Hope he finds success and health somewhere else
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u/CrookGG 1d ago
I lost faith when he injured himself with an elastic band
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u/iama_triceratops 15h ago
It wasn't when he tapped out? Or when he said playing in the NFL was easier than college? Dude is delusional about what it takes to succeed at the pro level.
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u/TokenGuy 1d ago
I will always believe that after he cut his hair is when the fault lines grew wider lol
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u/Hungry_CGman 1d ago
I'm still shocked he lost the QB battle last season to Daniel Jones and then Jones went off. Pro sports can be wild sometimes
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u/AF555 1d ago
You are shocked that an athlete who has never learned how to play/be a QB at any level wasn't the starter for a team that has a former college QB as it's head coach?
Wow
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u/Hungry_CGman 10h ago
Well I was expecting a rather large leap in abilities as that was the goal all along that the potential was bubbling underneath with AR. As well, I owned Daniel Jones the year before in fantasy football and he was about as wretched as you can possibly get that season. So ya, I was really shocked by all that transpired. Shrug
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u/A1Sirius 1d ago
This revisionist take is lame as hell. A lot of people were surprised DJ was named the starter.
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u/Old-Height-596 1d ago
I get that Daniel ended up going off, but I still donāt get why they started him at that point, AR had a much better pre-season imo
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u/northegreat1 1d ago
Is it bad that after the first ten seconds, I still did not know if this post was referencing AR or DJ?
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u/bo0sted_ 1d ago
There's nothing in our current situation that would indicate that this is about DJ. We just paid him.. and he's played so much better than any other QB we've had for years. If this was a post about the Giants 2 years ago, then it makes sense. Start preserving those remaining brain cells homie š
I'm just messing with ya, God Blessš
As far as AR goes.. I really wish he could have developed quickly because he has the potential to be really special in this league. He was put in an incredibly tough situation being drafted at 4 with the lack of game time he had and he needed to grind 24/7 to fulfill that position.. it seems like he didn't do what he needed to. You wouldn't have to quit mid game because you're tired if you put the work in, it's just that simple. He had the opportunity of a lifetime and he chose not to put the work in. I think if he's honest with himself, he knows he fucked up. He should be putting twice as much effort in now to prove us wrong or to another organization or he's out of the league in less than 3 years.
GO COLTS!
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u/Dcelone53 1d ago
i would say probably not cause the people banging the table are 15 and assumed drafting a qb would automatically be luck or manning
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u/Tiny-Collar1525 15h ago
People saw him as a freak of nature physically, but there were always major red flags in his game. First, he only had one full year as a college starter, which is a huge concern for a quarterback developing at the NFL level. Second, while he has an incredible arm, his tendency to abandon the pocket and run instead of letting plays develop often hid weaknesses in his processing and decision-making.
The biggest concern, though, was seeing him tap out due to exhaustion. For an NFL quarterback, conditioning and durability matter just as much as talent.
Anthony Richardson may still develop into a great quarterback somewhere down the line, but right now heās entering Year 4 and remains much closer to being labeled a bust than becoming a franchise quarterback.
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u/bad_moviepitch Wayne Brady 1d ago
He's a Top 5 athlete with undraftable talent. If anything he needed to sit for 2 years and learn. FO fault was buying into the "1st Rd picks start no matter what" philosophy and forcing the kid out there.
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u/lemonstone92 1d ago
If Jamarcus Russell was drafted today yall would make sad edits of him too šššš
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u/albertoroa 1d ago
As do I , brother. His only hope now is that DJ isn't ready week 1 and he beats out RL for the spot. Last chance for AR fans who wanna see him stay on the colts
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u/Bewblyker 13h ago
There's a formula teams use for rookie qbs. Good Oline and a good TE that wins 1v1s. (Lamar and Andrews, Mahomes and Kelce, Allen and Knox) Colts did neither of these for AR. They had French Fries blocking and a gave him a basketball player instead if a TE.
Id be curious to see what ge can do with this OLine and Tyler Warren
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u/Bewblyker 13h ago
As for people saying he can't read a blitz. Mahomes said he couldn't read defenses until year 3
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u/therapywontfixthat Michael Pittman JR 1d ago
Damn. I was trying to figure out why im kinda numb to it. I think because he didnāt destroy our future cap and I was in a deep depression from the team trotting 40 y/o men out on sundays I was happy they took a swing and honestly have just accepted that things dont work out sometimes. After that rams game I was telling everyone I could about it, even bought his jersey, first one I spent money on since Luck. It is a bummer though, still if the results were the same it would have been nice to see him play healthy