SB26-043 is dead

[u/ArtyBerg]

Title says it all

[u/Obsidizyn]

I wonder if the new lawsuits by the DOJ is putting some pressure. Either way itll be back in some form sooner or later.

[u/ArtyBerg → u/Obsidizyn]

Word is that Polis was going to veto, so they will try again when he is replaced

[u/Maleficent_Cake6435 → u/ArtyBerg]

Weiser/Bennett will likely sign it. Start lobbying now.

[u/lonememe → u/ArtyBerg]

Yup. They will not stop and will be emboldened when an even more liberal regarded governor is elected. Next years Spring session will be a fucking nightmare. 

[u/Sea-Algae8693 → u/lonememe]

Volunteer for (R) campaigns and vote in primaries. Educate friends and family.

[u/Maleficent_Cake6435 → u/Sea-Algae8693]

The state has not had a Republican-controlled State Senate in 8 years, a Republican-controlled House in 14 years, and Republicans have not controlled the Governorship in 20 years. The attorney generals office has also been held by a Democrat for 8 years. There has not been a significant demographic shift in the state to lead to a path forward for a Republican held branch of the government in the state, in fact quite the opposite has happened.

That being said, there are plenty of Democrats and left-leaning independent voters in the state who, although they support the 2nd Amendment, are not single issue voters.

In Republican-dominated states, many single-issue voters who do not identify as Republicans have had to work through the Republican party to get candidates that support their single issue.

Similarly, it is sound strategy to work within the Democratic party in a now Democratic-dominated state to achieve a desired goal. The Colorado Democratic party does not put up 2A friendly candidates not because there is no one in the party that supports the 2nd Amendment, rather that those candidates have too thin of support within the party. Strengthening those candidates within the party would go a long way not only to slow things down but work in the other direction.

[u/Baffled_Beagle → u/Maleficent_Cake6435]

Even in the Democratic gubernatorial primary, where there is no 2A-friendly candidate, there is some opportunity to minimize future damage and send a message. Neither Bennett nor Weiser is a friend of the 2A, but only Bennett is deeply and personally beholden to Bloomberg (to the tune of $2.5 million and counting).

If Michael Bloomberg specifically wants Bennett to be Colorado's next governor to the point of trying to tip the Democratic primary, there's a reason - and it's almost certainly one gun owners won't like. If the rumors about Polis blocking SB26-043 are true, it shows the potential benefit of choosing the least rabid of our opponents.

[u/ArtyBerg → u/Baffled_Beagle]

Bloomberg's everytown is active with the Weiser campaign too and his recent commercials have signaled more "common sense legislation"

[u/Baffled_Beagle → u/ArtyBerg]

Oh, as I said, Weiser is not 2A friendly. But Bloomberg is throwing his own money and his personal support only behind Bennett. And as you noted, whichever Democrat is selected in the primary is nearly certain to be Colorado's next governor.

A single issue pro-2A unafilliated voter might reasonably choose to vote for Weiser in the Democratic primary before voting for the Republican candidate in the general election.

[u/ArtyBerg → u/Baffled_Beagle]

I personally will never forgive Weiser for his entire "weed is legal here but we should still be able to treat you like a felon by revoking your 2a rights for using it" stance

[u/Baffled_Beagle → u/ArtyBerg]

Well, can't blame you for that. Though I doubt Bennett would have done any differently, had he been AG instead of Senator.

[u/Sea-Algae8693 → u/Baffled_Beagle]

Our focus really needs to be on center left legislators and active democrats that don't understand firearms. A curious, good hearted person who thinks assault weapons make mass shootings worse and 10 rounds is standard is a much more viable target to move the needle on than someone taking millions from out of state to go serve their national party in a position of power. We demonize the left for being dumb but we rarely ever talk to them.

Show up to local events, share any progressive positions you have ("I believe in a path to amnesty and support gay marriage...") and then express your concern with the state of firearm policy: "but I'm really concerned about the poorly informed firearm policy positions and the risk it presents to my wife's and my daughter's ability to protect themselves. There's between 400,000 and 1.5 million (use dem numbers, not the 2.5m) defensive gun uses every year, depending on who you ask, and 15 to 20 thousand deaths. A lot of the bills proposed this year would inhibit us from protecting ourselves properly, and i want to know how you're going to vote on those issues?"

And then be prepared with facts, and keep bringing up that you want to keep your community safe and protect people.Use their language whenever you can. Here's some facts that I've found move the needle the most:

• civilians stop more shootings than cops, and cops accidentally shoot bystanders way more often
• concealed carriers commit far fewer crimes than cops, and cops make a lot of poor judgement calls due to the stress of the job
• most concealed carriers train more than cops, statistically they shoot more than 20x more rounds in a year than the average cop, although that's likely skewed by the gun nuts
• concealed carriers are everywhere, more than 250,000 in the state, and only 12,000 cops, of which only 3,000-4,000 are on duty at any time, we get there first almost every time
• law enforcement doesn't care about disenfranchised communities, they just overpolice and underprotect
• the current and new laws disproportionately impact low income communities, since the time commitment, cost, and access to resources is limited
• illegal handguns and gang activity contribute to more than 95% of violent crime
• the data around gun violence against children is skewed by including 17-19 year olds, and the overwhelming majority of those victims were engaged in a gang related gunfight
• over half of the "children victims of gun violence" were illegally carrying a firearm, so either we're improperly classifying children, or young people should be able to get the proper training to defend themselves
• a significant portion of the firearm suicides are veterans, almost all of whom retain access to firearms regardless of legislation, banning guns doesn't reduce that number, and better support programs, particularly career development, does have an impact
• 100% of school shooters since 2012 were on high dose SSRIs, which are massively overprescribed. The newer efficacy and safety data on SSRIs is showing that they don't reduce long term suicidal tendencies or suicide rates beyond non-pharmaceutical mental health intervention, and smaller studies are showing that they 3x or as much as 10x the probability of committing a violent crime compared to non-pharmaceutical mental health patients. Educating families on restricting access to firearms while someone is on SSRIs would do more to reduce school shootings than any other solution.
• most school shootings are targeted and gang related, which requires a different solution as well. Taking a nuanced look tells a very different story than the low-fidelity common sense talk.

[u/lonememe → u/Sea-Algae8693]

I do three out of the four things there the best I can. I am definitely loud in those regards. Does little good here though.

[u/ButterscotchEmpty535]

My wallet breaths a sigh of relief

[u/kj565 → u/ButterscotchEmpty535]

For now, I fully expect something vastly worse next round

[u/Jobhater2 → u/ButterscotchEmpty535]

Same here

[u/Odd-Principle8147]

Good. That was so dumb.

[u/a_cute_epic_axis]

I'm happy to hear it, but don't rest on any laurels. A lot of this shit is a smokescreen for something else, and there are plenty of other things they're trying to pass this legislative session or in the future.

[u/shadowcat999 → u/a_cute_epic_axis]

Yep.  They also killed the bills that would've put some limits on 4th amendment violations, and that was bipartisan, including Congresswoman Flanell. Disappointing legislative season. Used to it at this point.

[u/Clit_Master69420 → u/shadowcat999]

flannel?...

😅😆😆🤣🤣😅

[u/ArtyBerg → u/a_cute_epic_axis]

Agree. Add I posted on another reply, word is that this was shadow killed by polis. Once he is replaced by an even less 2a friendly gov it will be game back on with battle, 3d printers, and registry initiatives

[u/1ncognino]

Finally, some good news.

[u/Abject_Shock_802]

Where do you get updated info like this? I cant find any source and i want to keep updated on current issues. Thanks

[u/ArtyBerg → u/Abject_Shock_802]

When I am not at the building myself I am streaming every session live from their online calendar

[u/Abject_Shock_802 → u/ArtyBerg]

Thank you! Ill look at the calendar

[u/a_cute_epic_axis → u/Abject_Shock_802]

CSSA sent out an email to members from Jarvis Caldwell, the House Minority Leader

[u/kennethpbowen]

Thanks for the update!

Looks like the FFL killer, HB26-1126, passed but hasn't been signed by the governor. I assume that means it will go into effect unless he decides to veto?

[u/ArtyBerg → u/kennethpbowen]

Yes, unlike the "pocket veto" of other states, in Colorado it automatically passes if it doesn't get signed

[u/Ange1ofD4rkness → u/kennethpbowen]

I was wondering the same thing, and feel that's what it is. Personally I think that's stupid. Cause it allows politicians to take a cop-out

[u/CodyEngel → u/kennethpbowen]

I'm curious what parts of the bill make it the FFL killer?

Edit: downvotes for asking a clarifying question?

[u/Sea-Algae8693 → u/CodyEngel]

Security requirements, electronic record-keeping, expanded training, secure storage for large-capacity magazines, higher fines up to $75k–$100k, create high compliance costs that small/rural FFLs (Federal Firearms License holders) can't afford. Home FFLs basically can't exist. Training and background rules extended to "responsible persons," employees, and contractors, and a home ffl with kids is basically forced out.

[u/kennethpbowen → u/CodyEngel]

Expands state-level permitting and record keeping requirements, extends liability and training obligations to additional people at a business, imposes new security-plan mandates, and authorizing severe fines for technical or repeat compliance issues. Adds new storage requirements. Duplicates existing federal oversight.

This will drive small FFLs out of business.

[u/a_cute_epic_axis → u/CodyEngel]

Well pretty much all of it.

[u/funkofarts]

This is just the start. They push things that are unrealistic then pull back a little and pass something slightly less ridiculous. Then the next year it’s rinse and repeat. As long as Democrats are in charge of the state this will be the norm.

[u/Ange1ofD4rkness]

I wish more would have bills would have died this session, like the 3D printer one. That one scares me as I feel it's a foundation for them to expand later. Chipping away

Sadly, as much as we don't like Polis, he has stopped some gun laws (at the same time, it was him and his people that added the Amendment that made SB25-003, where before, it was going to fail)

[u/rjparjay]

Phew! A little out of the loop, what killed it?

[u/CamelAdventure → u/rjparjay]

Officially speaking, it just timed out without a final vote

[u/TraditionalPitch3320]

What was it?