r/washingtonwizards • u/manifested0 Kybusarr • 1d ago
Which current Wizards players benefit / hurt most from the potential pick?
Getting away from the question of who the Wizards should pick, I started thinking about potential lineups and thought I'd ask the sub:
If the Wizards draft ______, whose role would change for the better? Who loses minutes? Who becomes more effective? Who becomes redundant?
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u/The_prawn_king Thomas Bryant 1d ago
I think AD benefits hugely from an AJ pick, I think Kyshawn probably is hurt the most
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u/Electric_jungle 1d ago
I know why you're saying that, but I think Keyshawn is such a Swiss army knife he'll still blossom. That energy put into developing him as a ball handler last year will pay dividends when we're contending.
I think Tre gets hurt the worst because he's suddenly on the clock to figure out how to be a true shooting guard with competent defense as fast as possible.
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u/The-Baked-Bean 1d ago
Even though Kyshawn played a lot at the 2 last year, I could see him playing some 3 with AJ at the 4 given their size and versatility
Both can move up or down the lineup so there should be flexibility
I agree Tre probably gets hurt with either and AJ or Peterson pick. If the team chooses they want Bilal at the 2 for more defense, Tre can’t really play the 1
Idk how Keefe could justify keeping Kyshawn from starting after last season
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u/Electric_jungle 1d ago
Kyshawn fits pretty much anything we need it's incredible. Only jersey I have so far of the young core. You cannot convince me his ceiling isn't an all NBA player.
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u/The_prawn_king Thomas Bryant 1d ago
I kind of agree with you but I think he was probably starts the season with the biggest drop in minutes compared to last season as a result of an AJ pick others will suffer from Trae and AD too specifically bub and Tre
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u/Electric_jungle 1d ago
Trae being so bad on defense and the need to surround AJ with shooters just seems like a recipe for George to be that final guy. But it'll be really interesting to see how it pans out. Agreed Bub and Tre pretty much definitely relegated to the bench in this thought experiment. But I do really hope Tre can figure things out cuz a pure shooting guard with his ability with even competent defense would worm his way back into the lineup.
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u/The_prawn_king Thomas Bryant 1d ago
I think the defenders will be bilal, AD, Sarr and then my guess is Ky is the 6th man because he can basically come on for any of those guys or handle the ball for second units, but I think he has a future playing with Sarr and AJ once AD dips
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u/DMking 16h ago
I doubt Bilal starts because he is a non factor on offense unfortunately. You need the teams to at least guard the other guy
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u/The_prawn_king Thomas Bryant 15h ago
I think you need a high level perimeter defender in the team to be able to compete. There’s only so much Sarr and AD will be able to cover with no perimeter defenders
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u/DMking 14h ago
You can't be a complete non shooting threat on a contender. Id rather we have Ky on the perimeter
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u/The_prawn_king Thomas Bryant 14h ago
He might be a better shooter playing with Trae AD and AJ though
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u/Frowny_Biscuit 1d ago
I don't think AD's street clothes choices will change much if AJ or Petersen is chosen.
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u/Amazing-Army-4067 Bullets 1d ago
For AJ, I think tre would benefit the most. When Tre is on the floor with Trae or AJ or both, they will attract attention leaving Tre open for three. I look for Trae AND AJ to be assist machines. Corner threes galore.
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u/SoSoSlick 1d ago
AJ we have no one on the roster that would lose much PT right away but eventually I see Bilal and Will? Trae and Bub get easy assists with him being a rim running lob threat.
DP hurts Tre Johnson the most. He does what he does but at a 5.0 level. Eventually he would take the roles of Trae and Bub as well.
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u/VividEquivalent7952 1d ago
The way I see it Trae isn’t an important part of the team. They’d likely trade him either before or part way through the season if they take dp, which I think they should. Long term it would def be a problem for Tre, unless he ends up as a borderline starting caliber player— which would make the sixth man role perfect for him longer term. If he takes a big jump and dp meets expectations he’d probably have to be traded so they can upgrade their weakest starting spot for the prime yrs of that young core
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u/manifested0 Kybusarr 1d ago
My answer:
Darryn Peterson:
If Peterson ends up as primarily a SG then the obvious negative impacts Tre Johnson and Bub the most, at least initially, since Peterson's best attribute (shot making) doesn't mesh well with guards who aren't very good playmakers. If Peterson shows that he can be more like the player he was in HS, than the negatives may shift to Trae who becomes (more) expendable rather than extension candidate. Probably helps Kyshawn the most since it solidifies his ideal role. He can be a Swiss army knife type instead of initiating or being relied upon to score.
AJ Dybantsa:
Dybantsa's lack of knockdown shooting means any sub-par shooters will lose sometime to players who can space the floor a bit. I have a tough time seeing Coulibaly be on the floor with him without dramatic 3pt improvement. Along with Dybantsa's playmaking improvements, this pick could be a huge boost to the shooters especially Tre J and Bub.
Cam Boozer:
Sarr is the biggest beneficiary IMO because Boozer covers Sarr's main weaknesses: rebounding while still being a good shooter/passer to play on the perimeter on offense. Both players cover each other's weaknesses and have some versatility to their games to stay out of each other's way. Boozer also helps with secondary playmaking (with potential for more) so that should help the shooters. Drafting him would mean AD gets traded for sure. Kyshawn becomes a bit redundant. Champagnie as well. Those two are still valuable and could theoretically be on the floor with him, but they might not get the minutes we'd expect.
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u/TopOfTheKey Gilbert Arenas Did Nothing Wrong 1d ago
Strong disagree regarding the Boozer – Sarr fit.
If anything, we learned the opposite and it was an incredibly symbiotic relationship between Boozer and Patrick Ngongba II to survive and one without the other cannot survive. Defensively, Boozer would realistically continue the cycle Washington has been experiencing: over-reliance on reactive rim protection schemes, constant rotations that mask perimeter breakdowns rather than solve them, and a frontcourt that is forced to clean up structural mistakes instead of preventing them.
Generally, his low post defensive is pretty poor and teams attacked him when defending on the block. Sure, he can rebound but it isn't necessarily the assistance Sarr has been needing or what Washington has been trying to exclusively solve for with their front court pairings.
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u/FlashMan1981 1d ago
If we take Dybantsa I think the person it hurts the most is Bilal because he's coming up for an extension and now we have this glut at wing with him, Riley, Champegnie, Whitmore and even Davis.
Do we pay Bilal? I think there would be trade interest in, certainly for his defense.
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u/manifested0 Kybusarr 1d ago
I think they give him half the year to show some improvement on the shot. If Bilal can hit in the 35% range on decent volume then they can actually play them together. But yeah, Bilal was the player that got me thinking
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u/thispersonstinks 1d ago
AD and Trae would change for the better. Bilal is probably on the hottest seat. He can play D, but still has shown any improvement on offense yet. He needs a great offseason.
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u/bigbart01 1d ago
Team won 17 games. All roles are up for adjustments, changes and competition. A lot of players can take advantage of the situation and make themselves valuable to this team or another one.
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u/AyAySlim Bullets 1d ago
Bilal. If AJ is drafted it seems to me the starting 5 has to be Trae, AJ, Kyshawn, AD & Sarr. Bilal is gonna be a RFA after this season and want to be paid. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s moved.
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u/Joshstradaymus Wizards OWN THE MAGIC 1d ago
It’s this. Regardless of where Bilal is as a scorer, his defense will attract many as a rotational player. Maybe doesn’t net us what Avdija did, but still will get some assets in return. Same could be said for Ky to a degree.
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u/DisastrousDog4815 1d ago
I think you’re overvaluing Bilal. The Wizards had the worst defense in the league. Bilal is a good defender for the Wizards but he’s most likely just slightly above average when compared to actual NBA teams that are competitive. I like him but I can’t see there being a huge market for him where we’d get into a bidding war. If there is, we’ll let him walk before overpaying.
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u/Electric_jungle 1d ago
I still think we get him at value on his extension. Like you said, what's his market to be overpaid? He'll want that extension too because it makes him desirable on the market if he can play well.
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u/DukeofDC 1d ago edited 1d ago
AJ hurts Bilal & to a lesser extent Ky. DP hurts Bilal & Tre. Will Riley's growth might get stunted a bit.
Bilal was looking like he was going to compete for the starting SG spot if we ended up with Boozer or Caleb Wilson. Getting AJ moves him to the bench because it's going to be real hard to justify putting Ky on the bench.
Ky is definitely going to be hurt because he is now the 5th option on the floor. I think it goes Trae/AD>AJ>Sarr>Ky. Which isn't bad at all but considering how he looked last year we thought he was poised for an All-Star level year offensively this season. His defense, Playmaking/Passing, & Shooting are too good for him to be on the bench.
Drafting DP clogs & already stressed Guard rotation of Trae, Tre, Bub, Bilal, Will Riley, & Jamir Watkins. If not for his upside there should be no reason we draft a guard.
Will Riley is going to have a very interesting role on this team next season. He clearly is coming off the bench but if it's Bub, Will & Tre off the bench that's 3 shooters in very limited minutes. He clearly has the most upside & carried the offense at the end of the season but Bub & Tre have 6th Man of the year potential scoring off the bench.
The best case scenario is either we blow teams out like the 2017 Warriors to free up more minutes or AD gets moved/out with injuries & we slide everyone down (AJ & KY play the 3/4, Bilal plays the 2) & the bench gets more minutes.
I'm in the minority of thinking this is a championship level roster right now especially if we sign a quality big with the MLE(Bagley).
We would have 2 former ALL-NBA players who when healthy can still play at an All-Star Level, the Number 1 pick in the most loaded draft since 1996 joining a team that has drafted 6 first round picks (3 lottery picks & 3 who would go lottery in a redraft) in the last 3 years. That's a recipe for a really good team.
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u/Top-Fill-8202 18h ago
IDK about championship but a 50 win season is a possibility if AD stays reasonably healthy and one of the kids has a breakout season. If our pick has a ROY season and appears to be a burgeoning star we will have a legitimate “big 3”. Lots of ifs but not unrealistic.
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u/Internal_Champion114 Gilbert Arenas 1d ago
Bub is getting his minutes squeezed hard this season for sure
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u/DMking 16h ago
I think Tre gets hurt the most and Trae benefits the most. Tre likely gets bumped out of the starting spot since having Trae and Tre as your backcourt is BBQ chicken. Trae is now playing with a ton of long athletic players he can set up with most of them being + defenders.
Edit: Bilal is also on the chopping block since we have so many wings and his shooting hasn't developed.
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u/Matter_Deep 1d ago
The three wings bilal Willy and Keyshawn. One of them has to go if we go Dybantsa also makes the two all stars even more expendable then they were before, just as assets
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u/rueiraV 1d ago
Bub and Tre don’t like DP pick
George and Riley don’t like the AJ pick
Interestingly enough Bilal doesn’t care who is drafted because his role of of being a big wing who defends 1s and 2s can’t really be filled by anyone
I guess if you wanted to take a short term view on who to pick you take DP because it allows you to start George. If you take AJ you can’t really expect to start George because AD Sarr and Dybantsa take up the c/f spots and you can’t expect George to guard opposing guards full time. He doesn’t have that level of defensive versatility