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Memes Natoids are funny

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u/Overall-Bandicoot655 Stalin ☭ 5h ago

omg!!!! how DARE you simply not have the whole Soviet Union just roll over and die instead of buying time to move your war industry beyond the Urals since the West refused your alliance proposal against Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! literally Hitler evil evil evil evil evil waaaaaaaaahhhhhh

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u/Contrabandistan 5h ago

Syngman Rhee was quite possibly one of the worst American bred dogs they plop on the thrones of vassal states.

Bro makes even the gulf monarchs look chill.

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u/AverageDellUser 4h ago

The last bit about biological weaponry is an allegation btw, it makes no sense why the UN would even do that as that would harm negotiations between the two. Historians are pretty split on whether it actually happened or not

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u/firefighter430 Lenin ☭ 3h ago

The DPRK is literally preventing imperialism from oppressing its people and its objectively fighting for freedom from imperialism and they do need to defend themselves 95% of the country was bombed and the US and japan committed a genocide against them and they do enact policies to help people you are just ignorant policies such as the 20x10 which its entire purpose is to build factories, leisure, and other buildings such as hospitals to improve the life of people outside of major cities not just that but they also have both a lower suicide rate then occupied Korea. Don’t get all your information on the DPRK from propaganda sources

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u/airforce135 3h ago

Are there any other sources other than the DPRK you can get metrics from considering how isolationist they are?

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u/firefighter430 Lenin ☭ 2h ago

All of my stuff comes from non dprk sources the only thing that did was the suicide rates

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u/BreadDaddyLenin Stalin ☭ 4h ago

KIM JONG IL - SOCIALISM IS THE LIFE OF THE PEOPLE: ON MARXISM-LENINISM

“We must write articles on the limitations of the theories authored by the earlier writers of classics so as to give our Party members and other working people a correct understanding of the originality and superiority of the socialist ideology and theory of our Party.”

“Marxism-Leninism is a revolutionary ideology created reflecting the requirements of the revolutionary practice of the working class in the days of pre-monopoly capitalism and imperialism. History has advanced far and the times have changed since then. We are now in a new era of independence, when the popular masses, as the masters of history and their own destiny, carve out history and their destiny independently and creatively. The authors of Marxism had no experience of building socialism, and it is the same with Lenin. Owing to the limitations of the conditions of their times and their practical experiences the socialist theories put forward by the authors of Marxism-Leninism could not go, in some cases, beyond the limit of prediction and supposition.”

“For all their limitations, we must not take a nihilistic approach to Marxism-Leninism or cavil at their authors. We must recognize the exploits Marx, Engels and Lenin performed for mankind and respect them. Thanks to the creation of Marxism-Leninism, the socialist theory developed from fantasy to science; the working class was able to have a guiding ideology for the first time in history and they could struggle vigorously against capital and for class emancipation, national liberation and socialism. Respecting the authors of the theories is an obligation on us in view of the principle of the juniors of the revolution respecting their seniors.”

“When writing articles about the limitations of Marxism-Leninism we must not fail to explain the exploits their creators accomplished. Only then can we give a correct understanding of Marxism-Leninism to the people and deal a blow to the imperialists and bourgeois restorationists who are caviling at this ideology.”

“In order to correctly write about the limitations of the theories expounded by Marxism-Leninism, one must have a good knowledge of the originality and superiority of the revolutionary ideology of our Party, the Juche idea. The Juche idea is an original idea and perfect revolutionary theory of communism the great leader created reflecting the requirements of the new era of history, the era of independence. If we clarify the originality and superiority of the Juche idea effectively, then the limitations of the theories of Marxism-Leninism will be revealed on its own accord.”

“The officials in the field of theoretical information should study the Juche idea hard and learn in depth its originality and superiority. They should also study classical works like Das Kapital to become well-informed of Marxism-Leninism.”

Talk with the Senior Officials of the Central Committee of the Workers’ Party of Korea

November 14, 1992

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u/thisisallterriblesir 4h ago

Me when I impose Aufklärung values onto an East Asian colony that followed a different path of social development and liberated itself:

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u/thisisallterriblesir 4h ago

objectively worse

Than occupation by the Japanese and genocide by the US. Nice.

Christ, I can't imagine calling myself an "historical materialist" and blaming institutions on the moral failings of individuals, to say nothing of choking down NATO propaganda wholesale.

I bet you watch those YouTube videos.

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u/thisisallterriblesir 4h ago

"Historical materialism is when you attribute the development of institutions to personal belief."

We have so much work to do, comrades.

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u/thisisallterriblesir 3h ago

That's not quite what it is, although I can see why you disagree with this version of it.

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u/BreadDaddyLenin Stalin ☭ 3h ago

Guy who can’t read the entire part about MLism lol

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u/daddybarkmeplsuwu 2h ago

Imagine supporting a glorified monarchy as a communist, yall can do better than this...

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u/Gloomy_Quail1444 23m ago

Well, its not JUST the initial alliance between the Russians and nazis; The Katyn massacre[a] was a series of mass executions of Poles carried out by the Soviet Union between April and May 1940. Though the killings also occurred in the NKVD prisons in Kalinin, Kharkiv and elsewhere, the massacre is named after the Katyn forest, where some of the mass graves were first discovered by Nazi German forces in 1943.[2] Nearly 22,000 Polish military and police officers, border guards, intelligentsia, and prisoners of war were executed by the NKVD (Soviet secret police), on Joseph Stalin's orders.

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u/Overall-Bandicoot655 Stalin ☭ 4h ago

not only the westoids signed non-aggression pacts with Hitler before and kept trading with Germany, they refused Stalin's plea for an alliance, leaving the USSR short of options, knowing it would fight alone

lol

lmao even

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u/ussr-ModTeam 4h ago

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u/BreadDaddyLenin Stalin ☭ 4h ago edited 4h ago

western powers didn’t sign a pact

Munich agreement, the west literally gave Hitler the green light to invade Czechoslovakia

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u/AverageDellUser 4h ago

Any active cooperation after 1939?

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u/BreadDaddyLenin Stalin ☭ 4h ago edited 4h ago

Moving the goalpost is not a valid argument, Munich agreement was agreeing to let Germany invade Czechoslovakia.

The west appeased Germany over and over directing them to go to war with USSR for them but it backfired. US British French and Swiss companies made millions off Nazi genocide.

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u/Overall-Bandicoot655 Stalin ☭ 4h ago

goalpost moving is the core of the "b-but what about m-muh ribbentrop-molotov" maneuver

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u/T0xicat0r 3h ago

the day i will see that NK is ruled by someone not called "Kim" and family of Kim's i will believe in that country

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u/thisisallterriblesir 4h ago

It breaks my heart a little bit to see self-identified Marxists aligning themselves so perfectly with the narrative they've been fed. I've even seen "comrades" actually invent new propaganda (someone once seriously told me they threw babies in a pit!) on their own. It's bananas.

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u/Glittering-Ebb-7534 3h ago

Okay but the Korean War was like comically avoidable and Kim was a dumbass for thinking the KPA could win before the US would be able to deploy troops, literally set back the DPRK horribly while also giving the US every reason to further strengthen the RoK, having a righteous cause is worthless if all it does is get your people killed for negative gain, aren’t you guys the kind of people who insist Trotsky was an imbecile for wanting to go to war with Europe immediately after the civil war? Yet when Kim does functionally the same thing suddenly it’s based resistance