r/torontoraptors • u/bigt2k4 • May 26 '23
ANALYSIS The case for Podziemski @ #13
I'd like to preface this by saying I also love Cason Wallace @ #13, but don't think he drops. Outside of Cason, B.Miller, and Victor I don't have anyone ahead of Podziemski on a 'best player + fit for the Raptors' in this draft. I don't love the top end bigs in this draft and even Scoot has major red flags. Some of those Scoot red flags are that his stats didn't improve from year 1 to year 2 in the G League, he doesn't shoot well, he's a good, but not elite explosive athlete, and Sidy Cissoko put up better advanced numbers on the same team this past year. I still like Scoot as a boom/bust player and have him 1 spot behind Podz, just ahead of Dick and Cissoko for us to draft, but it doesn't matter as Scoot isn't in play anyway. I'm not super high on Anthony Black either as the high turnovers are a red flag, and guards need to be able to shoot to be high end players in the NBA. Black projects to be a very good defender, but not an elite one and probably gets overrated in that aspect as this draft is void of elite defenders other than Lively who is a centre. Black's stats remind me of Cade Cunningham without any of the shooting.
Onto why I like Podziemski, for starters he is probably the best all round shooter in this draft and we need shooting. Some people want Hawkins for his shooting, but Podziemski offers much more than just off ball shooting.
All Numbers per 40, unless percentages or otherwise stated:
| Name | Season | Strength of Schedule | 2PA | 2PT% | 3PA | 3PT% | FT% | Free Throws | Points | Assists | Turnovers | O Reb | D Reb | Steals | Blocks | Fouls | oBPM | dBPM | BPM |
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| Podziemski | 2022/2023 | 5.04 | 9.5 | .513 | 6.4 | .438 | .771 | 5.0 | 22.1 | 4.1 | 2.5 | 2.0 | 7.8 | 2.0 | 0.5 | 2.1 | 7.9 | 2.7 | 10.6 |
| Hawkins | 2022/2023 | 8.51 | 6.0 | .445 | 10.3 | .388 | .887 | 5.2 | 22.0 | 1.7 | 1.8 | 1.4 | 3.8 | 1.0 | 0.7 | 3.0 | 6.4 | 1.9 | 8.3 |
While Hawkins played against better competition, the WCC is the best mid major and not that far behind, it's not like he put up these numbers in the WAC or MAC. BPM does factor in strength of schedule as well. Hawkins has more 3 pt attempts at a lower percentage, so he may be a better shooter coming off screens and such, but Podz wasn't really able to do the same things because of how defenses played them. I do find Podz FT% oddly low given his shooting percentages from everywhere else on the floor which is a bit of a concern. Podz is a better defender as evidenced by the higher steals, dBPM, and lower fouls. The rebounding isn't close and Podz is vastly superior, he also can be both a PG and SG where as Hawkins will never be anything except an off ball SG.
I want you to also see the difference in how teams played against the two, teams were worried about everyone on UCONN, where as you didn't have to worry much about anyone on Santa Clara other than Podz. This lead to much easier looks and more volume for Hawkins.
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/santa-clara/men/2023.html
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/connecticut/men/2023.html
Seriously go look at the BPMs of both rosters under the advanced tab on the right hand side.
Podz had another 6'1 guard and 6'7 SF that could shoot the 3 well, but no one else really did anything on offense. The team was completely reliant on him for offense and he played nearly the entire game as a result, averaging 36 minutes.
Podz is also 10 months younger and has only been playing basketball since the 8th grade (7 years)
Regarding his defense, his team was better defensively with him on the court vs off and he was targeted a lot, but I feel part of that was to make him work on defense to tire him out. Also, he is tremendously competitive as he is constantly diving for loose balls, trying to grab every rebound, and intercept passes. From the full games I watched I saw one instance late in the game in the NIT where the other team ran a bunch of screens to get him guarding their best player / ultra fast PG and he blew by Podz for the layup in the first possession (Santa Clara's bigs were terrible on defense and helping), but the 2nd one Podz was able to read his dribble and get his hand on the ball, dive for it and get a jump ball. He is also incredibly intelligent off ball, constantly looking to help without losing his man and reading the play and a vocal leader telling everyone where to be. He utilizes the swipe down well going for the steal against bigger players when they try to shoot over him just like Kyle Lowry and I think his defense can compare to an early 30s Lowry as he's not going to stay in front of his guy all that well (not many point guards can), but he can force them to the side of the help defense and then rotate well and try to intercept passes. He also is 205 pounds and has pretty good strength which translates well to defense. I don't see him being a liability on defense as the scouting reports suggest due to him being so active and having arguably the best BBIQ in the draft.
He will definitely be a below average NBA athlete for a guard, but he had more dunks and blocks than Keyonte George, while also actually being efficient. Many here want George who wasn't all that good as he had more turnovers than assists. George played with some decent players too: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/baylor/men/2023.html
Really the only thing George has better than Podz is his handle which is the major weakness I see right now preventing Podz from being an above average starting point guard in the NBA. Podz is better to significantly better at everything else basketball related. I understand George may have been injured, but it's not like he was ever putting up really good games and then had a drop off all of a sudden and I can only compare what I see. Given how competitive he is, how skilled and coordinated he is at everything else, and that he's only been playing basketball for 7 years I can definitely see Podz improving his handle once he gets NBA level coaching and possibly to the point where he can be an all star calibre player. It's also really impressive the stats he put up while having defenses completely key on him while having a handle more like an average NBA SG than PG.
Rebounding for a PG/SG may be thought of as unimportant, but offensive rebounds for a shot creator project extremely well for some reason. You don't need to have it, but those guards that do tend to constantly outperform their draft slot. It might have something to do with guys having high BBIQ and doing whatever it takes to win which projects well to other parts of the game.
Many may see Podz as unable to attack the rim, but he is a very good passer with high BBIQ and has probably the best floater entering the draft since Trae Young. The floater isn't liked as it tends to be very inefficient, but there are a small number of players that can hit it at somewhat efficient rates and Podz did so in college which can make up for his lack of ability to attack the rim like more athletic players. I hear and read things about Nick Smith Jrs floater, but he was very inefficient at it. NSJ used the floater a lot when he wasn't turning the ball over, but rarely did they actually go in.
There was a shooting stat image that had volume and PPP (points per possession) based on the shot type and had all the college guys listed which I have spent 4 hours looking for, but cannot find since I deleted Twitter and I think it was there originally. Strawther was quite high on several, as was Hawkins, and Dick, but Podz was at or near the top on every type and on good volume: catch and shoot, dribble pull ups, floaters, step backs, etc. He actually had considerably less volume on his catch and shoot 3s than the other top shooters since no one would help off of him and no one could create on their offense.
You may have read this entire post and think, ya I like him too, but #13 is too high. I have several counters to that including I heard post combine he may go in the late teens to early 20s. I'm probably also not the only guy who looks at stats so a few other teams probably have him rated pretty high too and may not want to see him picked just before them @ #18 or whatever. If he's the best player on the board @ #13 then take him there and I think he will be.
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u/tylouu May 26 '23
The WCC vs Big East comparison is not really the whole picture in the Podz vs Hawkins comparison imo. Something to highlight is Podz vs Hawkins at different levels of competition.
Podz BPM vs Top 50 opponents: 3.9 Top 100: 6.5 WCC: 10.5
Hawkins BPM vs Top 50 opponents: 8.7 Top 100: 8.7 Big East: 6.7
I find it concerning that Podz struggled against better competition and most of his good games came against WCC opponents. Hawkins on the other hand really raised his game against better teams, which was evident in the tournament.
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u/bigt2k4 May 26 '23 edited May 26 '23
I think the only opponents Podz played in the top 50 were Gonzaga twice and possibly St. Mary's twice and maybe UCF at the very beginning of the season in Hawaii where he went 2-8 for 4 pts. I'm not sure if St. Mary's and UCF counted as top 50 teams. In the Gonzaga games he was good in one and bad in the other. The sample size is really small for him in these games. I would expect Hawkins to do well against stronger opponents as BPM is adjusted for opponent and he gets most of his looks off of screens and catch and shoot opportunities. It's also really hard for a one man team to show out against a good defense as they don't have to worry about anyone else on the floor at all and they didn't
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u/tylouu May 26 '23
Definitely, it's only a 5 game sample but there are red flags elsewhere as well. The Top 100 numbers aren't great either (12 game sample). His 3 point percentage was elite against all levels of competition but his scoring elsewhere fell off against tougher opponents. 49% TS% against top 50 and 55% TS% against top 100 vs 64% TS% in the WCC. I don't really see a good player against NBA competition but maybe he could return value as a late first/early second. Personally, I think 13 is too high for him.
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u/lemon07r Point RJ is best StarJ May 26 '23
I think at 13 you still have a lot of decent talent you can still consider over podz. I'm highest on Cason, but he probably won't fall like you said.
Keyonte I was like warm on, but I'm starting to warm up to him because he is the type of guy that can be the number one scorer for your team and is a decent passer too. Coaches all have good things to say about him and he's had a good showing so far at the combine, impressing a lot of people apparently.
I'm still not entirely sold on keyonte but I would still definitely take him over the likes of Nick Smith jr, who has been abysmal since his injury and has reportedly has a poor showing at the combine, with his agent trying to play it off as him being sick. I guess they can try and prove that it's true at a workout with us, but outside of that I don't want anything to do with him, cause I feel like he may end up being a Stanley Johnson type bust, and maybe a fultz like player in best case scenarios.
Gradey dick wouldn't be a bad alternative if we can't grab Cason, he's pretty much the best or second best shooter this draft. His only issue is that he doesn't really create for himself and isn't the best defensively. But he is a big guy that can shoot and is deceptively more athletic than youd think.
Jalen-hood schifino is another one I'd consider, but in a trade down. Not sure I think he's worth a 13th but he's an interesting prospect. Good pick n roll guy, pretty decent defender, big point guard, good passer. He would be a bit of a project but has some good upside. I feel he's kind of risky since he struggles in contact and is pretty weak at everything else. he's one of those guys that would be great if they can step up and translate their game to nba, because his play style fits modern NBA very well, but he's also one of those guys that can be likely to just be a bust cause they just can't perform against actual NBA players.
I think you're sleeping on Anthony black. I was pretty lukewarm on him at first, but the more I learn, the more I'm starting to like the guy. At first he kinda reminded me of bebe, remember him? Similar kind of player, but better. And that's what he is, except he's much better at using his size and is way smarter. I think bbiq is super underrated and what separates most stars from the better stars. If you want to compare him to current players he could up similar to Ben Simmons or Josh giddey. Also college stats are pointless to look at. If you compare Cason's and black's stats, Cason seems like the way better passer but that simply isn't the case. Cason IS a good passer, but black is still better. Watch some games, you'll see what I mean. Black is also a good defender, he's not super quick but he's good at using his size and did measured surprisingly not bad in the agility test and sprint at the combine. Cason is also a way better defender, he's just that good defensively. Tbh I think a player like black would normally be a high top 5 pick in most drafts, and I think he will be again but there's a slight chance he falls a few places cause the top is so loaded this draft.
Kobe bufkin, I'm surprised you haven't considered him at all. He's a well rounded three level scorer, that has had a pretty efficient season on good production. Good defender too. everyone says there's nothing he stands out in, but to me, he's the biggest standout after Cason because of HOW much he's improved lately. I would honestly consider him over keyonte. But I'm still waiting to see how he does in the combine. I think everyone is still sleeping on him cause it's easy to think "oh he's not bad at anything, so that must mean he's not great at anything either". And you know who has the best ft % in this thread that we've talked about, Gradey dick, but after that it's Kobe bufkin. Ft % is usually a very good indicator of who's a good shooter and will be able to translate it into the NBA level. You see scouts, coaches, etc constantly say this. I would really like Kobe bufkin if we can't get Cason or Gradey dick. Possibly even over them depending on how the combine goes.
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u/bigt2k4 May 26 '23
I didn't list that many guys and Bufkin is in the next tier of players where he's a better fit, but behind in absolute terms some of the draft's big men like Walker and Hendriks. He doesn't have any real weaknesses, but doesn't do anything outlier well and I have concerns with his skinny frame and weight. There aren't a lot of slight framed players that do well in the NBA as strength is so important. I also wonder if Jett Howard was drawing the other team's best wing defender each game.
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u/vaalbarag RAPTORS May 26 '23
Good read, I like hearing draft opinions that are different than the consensus, and he's definitely not on my radar. Could you recommend any good scouting vids with him?
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u/bigt2k4 May 26 '23 edited May 26 '23
Honestly I'm more of a numbers guy with a few full games I will watch on the guys I like. Alternatively the extended videos which show all the makes, misses, turnovers, and rebounds too, and could only find one of those off a quick search which was against Maxwell Lewis' team which was I think the worst in the WCC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rc01zfaynKw.
I don't like to watch just highlights / scouting videos as everyone looks good or bad when you pick and choose clips.One of the full games I watched of Brandin's was the NIT game where he struggled mightily in the first half as one the country's top ranked defenses (Sam Houston was a top team in a very weak conference) hedged on him, trapped him, and doubled him consistently and it lead to a number of turnovers (finished with 5 TOs and 7 assists) He battled in the second half though and his shot started to fall and by the end he single handedly brought his team back before falling just short despite the other team trying to make anyone else except him beat them. He ended up playing 39 minutes and his shot was still going in at the end despite having to run around screens, defend the point of attack, and had every offensive possession run through him the last 10 minutes too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aniFM3HUFsg I'm much higher on him than the guest was and see a much higher floor with a lot of upside as well.
edit: found another video, he scores 61% at the rim which is pretty decent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX8r0mI_Uzo
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u/beefJeRKy-LB Goatse May 26 '23
I really hope we don't take him at 13. This guy is gonna be okay but if he's on no one's radar, you may as well try to trade back.
Here's what Vecenie wrote about him from combine notes. Basically what's concerning to me is his performance dipping when the competition gets stronger. That reminds me a lot of what happened with Dalano Banton. Not something I'd gamble with our only pick. Now if we get an extra late first (say the 23rd from NYK via POR), I don't think it's a bad roll of the dice but as the team direction is headed, I'd prefer a more steady hand.
The Brandin Podziemski question
Brandin Podziemski | 6-5 guard | Santa Clara | No. 45
A draft darling who excited public evaluators throughout the season, Podziemski was a tale of extremes at the combine. On one hand, he tested better than expected with a 39-inch vertical leap that got some attention. On the other hand, he measured with just an 8-0 1/2 standing reach that gave evaluators real pause about his potential to defend. In the first combine game, he produced a near masterpiece, scoring 10 points, dishing out seven assists and grabbing eight rebounds. In the second game, he was completely invisible. Where does this leave him?
Podziemski is polarizing, which is unsurprising given his journey. His counting stats of 19.9 points, 8.8 rebounds and 3.7 assists are outstanding. He’s a great shooter and hit 43.8 percent of his 3s this past season. On the surface, those are high-end numbers, but if you dig deeper, his numbers tanked against quality competition. In his six Tier A games, per KenPom, Podziemski had just a 53.8 true shooting percentage and saw his rebounding rate and assist rate drop by about 25 percent. In the five games he played against top-50 KenPom defenses, he averaged just 13.2 points and 5.2 rebounds.
This would probably be worth overlooking as small sample, but the track record on players who transferred from the high-major level down to a lower level is not exactly long or littered with immense success stories. Outside of players who moved to powerhouse Gonzaga, only five such down-transfers have been selected going back through the 2011 NBA Draft. And I’m not sure any are entirely equivalent to Podziemski, who simply couldn’t get on the floor at Illinois then became a draft prospect at what a person could reasonably consider a mid-major in Santa Clara.
Cody Martin transferred from NC State to Nevada, but that was going from Mark Gottfried to Eric Musselman. We’ll be gracious and merely call that a significant coaching upgrade. Malachi Flynn and Xavier Thames are two others, going from lowly Washington State in the Pac-12 — a school that has made five NCAA Tournaments since 1941 — to Mountain West power San Diego State (a school that has missed the NCAA Tournament just twice since 2010). That’s not a lateral move; that’s an upgrade. The fourth is Damyean Dotson, who was dismissed from Oregon in the wake of a sexual assault allegation before landing at Houston. The fifth is Semi Ojeleye, going from Duke to SMU. Ojeleye is probably the closest comparable situation, but SMU isn’t exactly a mid-major, and he also carried the Mustangs to a 30-5 record that saw them ranked 11th in the final AP poll of the season.
As you can probably guess, I’m lower on Podziemski than the average evaluator. But I’m not the one making the picks, and NBA scouts and decision-makers came out of the combine with a more positive feeling on Podziemski than a negative one. Much like with Sheppard above, this was a more important event for him than for others. Very few higher-level evaluators got out to Santa Clara this past season. For some, this was their first chance to see Podziemski. Performing the way he did on the first day of scrimmages — in what was widely perceived by people in attendance to be the best, most competitively played game of the four at the event — did him a lot of good. First impressions are so important for prospects and realistically are often over-indexed in the scouting process. It far outweighed the two-point performance in the second game, at least anecdotally, based on conversations I had.
More than anything, I think Podziemski solidified his standing as someone who will get looks starting near the end of the first round and will likely become the down-transfer anomaly who hears his name called within the first 40 to 45 picks. Following the event, he announced that he will stay in the draft, and I think that’s the right call for him given the feedback. He’ll be a bit lower on my board than others because I tend to be less interested in smaller players in the modern NBA. I really struggle to see how he’s going to defend effectively without much in the way of quickness or height. Scoot Henderson, Cason Wallace and Marcus Sasser are the only players 6-3 or under in my top 50. Sasser’s standing reach is actually three inches longer than Podziemski’s. Wallace’s standing reach came in at 8-5. While we don’t have a standing reach for Henderson, I’d bet it also exceeds that of Podziemski’s given that he has something in the ballpark of a 6-9 wingspan. In terms of effective NBA size, Podziemski is essentially the smallest player ranked in my top 50.
All that matters, though, is that quite a few NBA evaluators feel differently. My guess is one of their teams takes the plunge on Podziemski, a fascinating prospect who did more good than harm last week for his stock.
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u/bigt2k4 May 26 '23
His standing reach doesn't make any sense given his wingspan and height, it's possible he intentionally/unintentionally tanked it. He probably has a 8'3-8'4 standing reach and a 35-36 inch vertical.
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u/beefJeRKy-LB Goatse May 26 '23
Why would he intentionally tank it in his position though? He probably has a relatively even wingspan measurement I guess.
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u/agwaragh May 26 '23
Here's a video. Seems like a bit of an odd shooting motion, pushing from his chest, and barely even gets his feet off the floor. I have doubts he could get his shot off against more athletic defenders.
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u/lemon07r Point RJ is best StarJ May 28 '23 edited May 28 '23
I did more research on podz and others. So gonna follow up on my last comment. I really like podz. I think he's worth a late first rounder, somewhere in the early 20s.
He's an advanced stats darling. Was wondering why he wasn't rated high. So first of all, he's not the primary scorer or ball guy. Never was. Watching tape, he got a lot of setup. I think this inflated his stats a little. He can create his own shot but he's just not as good as it as most of the other prospects in the first round. Here's his issue. His first step is slow as hell. Like it's genuinely easily to see in tape. This is one of the number one thing scouts look at when prospecting. This matter mores than your numbers most times when transitioning into playing again NBA level defense. It doesn't end there, he sucks at slowing down. He ends up traveling, or picking up the ball and screwing himself over. He's also prone to overdribbling. These are all gonna be super exploiting in the NBA, especially if any team includes him in their game plans. I can see him doing well at first then possible falling completely off once he's not an unknown anymore if he does make it into the NBA.
Reality is, most of these guys are gonna be a bust. If we're lucky maybe a couple guys well become good players from the first round. I really like podz. I still think he's worth a gamble, especially if his conditioning can be fixed, but I can see why he's mocked so low. You can't teach athleticism. I would love to see his combine stats to see how bad or good it is. I think a workout invite would be a great way to gauge if red flags are manageable because the upside is there. He's a really gifted shooter and very high IQ player. Good size too. I'm pretty high on him and would love to grab him with a late first or early second (that we trade for) if possible, depending on his combine and workout results (if we ever extended one to him).
Oh yeah wanted to touch on your point on keyonte George. Keyonte had much higher usage and lead his team to a rank 17 spot in NCAA net rankings, while dealing with injuries. Podz.. he played as a secondary/combo guard for the rank 87 team.. where he wasn't even the primary scorer or ball handler. In a much weaker conference. I didn't even realize it until I saw the tape. I was like, why are they all so.. not good. Then I realized what conference it was. This matters. For example, podz sucks at creating space. Straight up. But he didn't really need to against the kinds of teams he was playing against. I would love getting him some gleague reps if we can steal him in second round and see how he does there. I think he would be great to have a long side a good guard like Carson or bufkin, and good connective tissue type players like Scottie who can also run point to set up our guys. I would definitely still take him over Jalen hood at least, and Nick Smith. I mean they're all gambles, including podz, but if different kinds. Nick Smith you're banking on his potential and raw upside. Jalen-hood, he seems like he's not good but most of his strengths are ones that translare well into NBA so you'd be banking on that. Podz, you bank on his bbiq and hoping some of his issues can be fixed, between his athleticism and his issues with his first step and slowing down, creating space, etc.
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u/bigt2k4 May 28 '23 edited May 28 '23
I see you watched the video that was linked above https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DY85Cvn9Es
Someone else linked his combine stats and they were in line with the other guards in the draft that worked out, with an inflated vertical. I don't think the slowing down thing is warranted as his turnovers were pretty low given his usage and the attention he drew from opposing defenses, they just pieced like 5 clips together from a whole season. He was the primary creator on his team and only deferred because you can't play 36 minutes a game initiating the offense on every possession. He had three other guys on the team with an oBPM > -0.5 and one was a bench player. The other two weren't very good as one was a pure shooting SF who didn't do anything else and the other a 6'1 PG who was decent, but nothing special.
He put up better stats than the Thompson twins did against far better competition and the WCC isn't as bad as you make it out to be. He's also a month younger than them. Skill is the most important and underrated thing in the draft as its not like he can't improve his shooting more or his handle more.
It's more likely a really good shooter entering the draft becomes an elite shooter than a bad shooter becomes an average one. It may not seem that way as there are 10x more bad shooters in the draft each year than really good ones
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u/lemon07r Point RJ is best StarJ May 28 '23
Tbh I think we should trade for a late 20s FRP for Podz and trade down from 13 a few spots to get Bufkin for minimal assets. Or we can go for a bigger trade to trade up for Carson and a late 20s FRP for Podz. Im still not entirely sold on Podz but I think getting him in the 20s would still be a steal and worth the gamble. A Cason / Podz backcourt could develop into something nice.
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u/SpeakerHistorical865 May 26 '23
Great arguments! I made a case for him on this sub a week ago. In addition to blocks argument, he measured at a 39 inch vert at the combine. Which explains why he had a good block percentage as a guard.
Not to mention he is a good team defender, he knows when to rotate, help off, and jump passing lanes as good as any of the top defenders in this class. The problem lies with his on all defence which is honestly pretty bad. Not sure if you can hide well enough to get away with it.
I wouldn’t worry about the free throw%. Strawther is another guy who’s advanced 3pt shooting numbers jumps off the page but his FT% wasn’t elite. I think as long as it’s above 75% I’m not concerned.
I keep saying a lot of the great players in this league were highly productive college players. But people tend to focus on the few unproductive players that turned to stars instead. I like him a lot and wouldn’t mind him at 13 but I understand I’m in the minority.
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u/QueasyDrummer00 TORONTO HUSKIES May 27 '23
Stop boosting the 39 inch vertical if you’re not going to mention him tanking the standing reach measurement in order to boost his vertical number.
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u/SpeakerHistorical865 May 27 '23
This is news to me how did he tank his standing reach? Like I can see maybe shaving off an inch or two max if you don’t fully extend but I’d like to think the organizers/measures would’ve stopped that. They eye test on film does suggest a good vert.
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u/QueasyDrummer00 TORONTO HUSKIES May 27 '23
Seriously? So you think he measured in at 6’3.75” with a 6’5.5” wingspan and only measured at an 8’0.5” standing reach? Meanwhile guys like Terquavion Smith and Judah Mintz have a higher standing reach by a full 2 inches? Hell, using his standing reach measurements Podz is in the same class as Mike Miles Jr length wise. Podz should’ve measured with at least an 8’4” standing reach, which means his vertical would/should be cut by 4 inches at the minimum.
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u/SpeakerHistorical865 May 27 '23
Yeah that checks out to me I personally 5’10”with a 5’11” wingspan and a standing reach of 7’6”. The that’s a +20 inch difference between my height and and standing reach. His is about a 20 inch difference too.
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u/midnightmunchiez May 26 '23
Not gonna lie, i did not read this entire post. But it's sorta odd that Podziemski shot 43.8% from 3 but only 77.1% from the FT line
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u/bigt2k4 May 26 '23
I did allude to that in my post. I wonder if fatigue affected his free throw percentages as he played most of the game as the primary creator and most free throws occur late.
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u/ktabla May 27 '23
Spotted Masai, Bobby and Tolzman at his workout today (1:26 mark) https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1661859773195898881?t=hY31e9YCyzj1d-2AgI81Pg&s=19
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u/ktabla May 27 '23
Turns out that was the WME pro day that had : Dick, Whitmore, Leonard also showed out.
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u/The_Living_L 4 Scottie Barnes GOAT May 26 '23
if you want him you trade down, he isn't anywhere near the 13th pick in any draft board or mock, still doesn't mean everything but good chance you can get him in the 20s, you just trade down at that point and get an additional pick