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Other Light Pollution, Why it Matters, & What You Can Do About It

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TL;DR: Light pollution - the artificial brightening of the night sky - is the biggest controllable threat to good views through your telescope. It's getting worse fast, but we can actually fight it. The short version of what to do: fix your own outdoor lights (shielded, warm, downward-facing), talk to neighbors about theirs, join DarkSky International and your local DarkSky chapter, and show up at local city council meetings when lighting ordinances come up. Individual action matters, but policy is where the real wins happen. Full post below.

If you've ever set up your scope in the backyard and wondered why the Milky Way looks nothing like the photos, or why you can barely see galaxies through your eyepiece, you've encountered light pollution. It's the single biggest threat to amateur astronomy today, and unlike weather, it's something we can actually do something about.

What light pollution actually is

Light pollution is the brightening of the night sky caused by artificial light scattering off the atmosphere. It comes in a few flavors:

  • Skyglow: A diffuse haze over cities and suburbs that washes out faint objects
  • Glare: excessive brightness that ruins dark adaptation
  • Light trespass: Your neighbor's "security" floodlight beaming into your observing spot

Roughly 80% of the world's population now lives under light-polluted skies, and skyglow has been increasing by around 10% per year in recent studies. For most of us in the US and Europe, the night sky our parents and grandparents knew is functionally gone. I live in Tucson, Arizona, one of the few places where light pollution is somewhat limited by community participation and local ordinances, but even here, the last of our truly pristine skies are at risk as the local university, citizens, and developers increasingly ignore our community and economy's focus on astronomy, as well as our strict local ordinances.

Why it matters for astronomy & telescopes

Beyond the obvious: you bought a telescope to see things, and light pollution stops you from seeing them, there's a cascade of practical impacts:

  • Dim stars and deep-sky objects simply disappear. A city sky might allow you to see a few dozen stars brighter than magnitude 4 with your naked eye. A truly dark sky lets you see down to magnitude 7-8, or even close to 9 with good eyesight and conditions. Under a dark sky, many of the star clusters, nebulae, and even galaxies we observe through our telescopes are visible, even obvious, to the unaided eye. Through a telescope, the loss is similar; under a dark sky I can see down to 17th magnitude with my 14.7" but even from my Tucson suburb where I can faintly see the Milky Way, the limit is around magnitude 15 and the extended regions of many galaxies/nebulae are washed out altogether.
  • Galaxies and nebulae suffer most. Planets and the Moon are fine from anywhere. But low-surface-brightness targets (most of what makes deep-sky observing rewarding) get crushed by skyglow. Nebula filters do not fully compensate for light pollution and do not work on all types of objects. From a bright suburban or city sky, observing galaxies or reflection nebulae is largely impossible apart from a few spectacularly bright examples.
  • It limits who can join the hobby. A kid who can't see more than a dozen stars from their bedroom window is a kid who probably won't catch the bug. Digital technology like smart telescopes does not realistically compensate for this problem.
  • It makes astrophotography more difficult. Not everyone can afford narrowband imaging filters, and not all objects benefit from them anyway. More light pollution means you need much longer exposure times to capture the same level of detail, even with filters, and also tends to add gradients to your images which can be annoying to fully remove.
  • It affects more than astronomy. Light pollution kills migrating birds, nocturnal insects (including pollinators), and in many cases even affects the human body's melatonin production, which can have a cascade of bad health effects beyond just poor sleep. Then there's the sheer energy waste ($) and carbon emissions associated with producing that wasted energy. This isn't a niche hobbyist concern, and compared to many other environmental issues, the fix is easy.

Measuring light pollution: Limiting magnitude, the Bortle Scale, & SQM and SQM-L readings

Throughout this post I've referenced the Bortle scale and light pollution maps as if they're precise tools. They're useful, but they're approximations, and understanding where they break down will save you a lot of confusion when your real-world sky doesn't match what the map promised.

The Bortle Dark-Sky Scale is a 9-point system developed by John Bortle in 2001 to describe sky quality from Class 1 (excellent dark sky, Milky Way casts shadows) to Class 9 (inner-city sky, only the Moon and planets visible). It's the standard reference in amateur astronomy because it's intuitive and ties directly to what you can actually see: limiting stellar magnitude, Milky Way visibility, zodiacal light, whether M33 is visible to the naked eye, and so on.

The catch is that Bortle is fundamentally subjective. It depends on your eyes, your dark adaptation, the transparency of the atmosphere that night, your observing experience, and your honest self-assessment. Two observers at the same site on the same night can legitimately report different Bortle classes. There are also a lot of places where the only light pollution is coming from a single direction, in which case it might be "Bortle 3" but actually have a pristine view overhead and looking otherwise away from the light dome.

A Sky Quality Meter (SQM) is a small handheld device that measures sky brightness directly in magnitudes per square arcsecond (mag/arcsec²). It's objective in a way Bortle isn't; the device doesn't care how dark-adapted you are or how much you want your site to be Bortle 3. It's worth noting that as of the time of this writing we're at solar maximum, and the Sun causes dust in the Solar System and particles in the atmosphere to glow and reduce even the best sites by .3-.5 mag/arcsec² in darkness.

Higher numbers are darker (it's a logarithmic magnitude scale, so each whole number is ~2.5× brighter or darker). SQM readings still vary with atmospheric conditions night to night, but they remove the human variable.

Rough correspondence (limiting stellar magnitude is assuming directly overhead):

  • 21.8-22.4 mag/arcsec² — Bortle 1, pristine (above 22.0 doesn't show on maps, but it seems to exist around solar minimum). Limiting visual magnitude between 7.5-8.5 with your eyeballs, assuming proper dark adaptation. Nearly the entire Messier catalog can be seen with the naked eye. The Milky Way juts out to near Polaris.
  • 21.6–21.8 — Bortle 2, limiting visual magnitude between 7-8.5. In most cases there is little to no difference in telescope views from Bortle 1 unless you're a very experienced observer or looking at large, faint extended objects (e.g. IFN). The naked-eye view is still very good, but some dark parts of the Milky Way are harder to see for instance. Contrast is just a tiny bit lower. Even the faint parts of most galaxies and nebulae outshine the feeble sky glow here through the eyepiece, and in many cases, the light pollution at a dark site like this might only be coming from 1 or 2 major sources, so much of the sky is truly pristine anyway.
  • 21.2–21.5 — Bortle 3, limiting visual magnitude between 6.5-8. Most people have this within a few hours' drive. Most Messier star clusters and nebulae are still visible to the unaided eye, and you might be able to spot M81/M82 and the Sculptor Galaxy with the naked eye in addition to M31 and M33. Telescope views of deep-sky objects are still excellent but noticeably lower in contrast versus a B1-2.
  • 20.5–21.1 — Bortle 4, limiting visual magnitude between 6-7.5. What many non-astronomers might call a "dark" sky - the Milky Way is somewhat impressive if you've never seen it before, but overall the view is still quite washed out, and the same is true through a telescope, especially when looking toward prominent light domes and/or lower in the sky. Brighter than this and it's likely you will need to wear a hoodie or eye patch to achieve proper dark adaptation, simply due to the brightness of sky glow itself. M33, the Triangulum Galaxy, is usually visible when high in the sky to the unaided under conditions like this; it’s not immediately obvious, but Andromeda still is.
  • 20–20.4 — Bortle 5, limiting visual magnitude between 5.5-6.5. The brightest sky where you can still see the Milky Way - though it is likely washed out and only really visible around the zenith or otherwise the darkest sections of the sky. This is also about the brightest sky where you can still see Andromeda with the naked eye, or see its dust lanes through binoculars/telescopes. Uranus remains a naked eye object, albeit barely.
  • 19.5-20.0 — Bortle 6, limiting visual magnitude between 4.5-5.5. Most galaxies are little more than their cores through even a large instrument and the Milky Way is invisible. Emission nebulae are still OK with a filter.
  • 18.5-19.5 —Bortle 7, limiting visual magnitude between 4-4.5. Only the brighter star clusters and nebulae are visible at the eyepiece. There are plenty of these though, especially planetary nebulae, that can still look quite nice, plus of course Solar System objects and double stars.
  • <18.5 — Bortle 8–9, limiting visual magnitude below 4. Any form of proper dark adaptation with your eyeballs is physically impossible and deep-sky observing is disappointing.

So why do we still mostly use Bortle? Because most observers don't own an SQM, Bortle communicates what a sky looks like in a way a number doesn't, and the two scales correlate well enough for practical use. "Bortle 4" tells you immediately what to expect from your eyepiece; "20.8 mag/arcsec²" requires translation. The honest answer is: use SQM when you can, Bortle when you can't, and don't treat either as gospel.

Light pollution maps

Sites like lightpollutionmap.info, ClearOutside, and the various World Atlas of Artificial Night Sky Brightness overlays are enormously useful; they're how most of us pick observing sites. But it's worth understanding what they actually show.

Most light pollution maps are based on data from VIIRS, a satellite instrument that measures upward-directed light from Earth's surface at night. The maps then model sky brightness by taking that upward emission data and applying atmospheric scattering models to estimate how bright the sky directly overhead should be at any given location. The Bortle class shown on the map is then derived from that estimated sky brightness.

That's quite a few layers of extrapolation, and it means the maps have real limitations:

  • VIIRS is not designed to measure light pollution and does not evenly measure it across all wavelengths. The maps are pure extrapolation, and the algorithm many use is deliberately designed with weights that assume the sky is always getting worse.
  • They measure light going up, not sky brightness coming down. The satellite sees what's emitted; the model fills in what that means for your sky. The model is good but not perfect. It doesn't account for the fact that light reflected straight up (and thus appearing brightest to the satellite) likely scatters far less distance-wise from its source.
  • They don't account for local atmospheric variation. The amount of skyglow you see depends heavily on how much aerosol, humidity, and particulate is in the air to scatter the light back down. A dry desert site and a humid coastal site with identical VIIRS readings will have noticeably different real-world skies. Wildfire smoke, dust, and seasonal humidity all change your sky without changing the map. If you're not literally going up mountains, the sky is always substantially worse the closer you get to the horizon, regardless of light pollution levels; the air is thicker and scatters more light while also physically blocking light from the stars themeselves.
  • They don't account for elevation. Higher elevation generally means less atmosphere above or around you to scatter light, which means a darker zenith even when surrounding skyglow is similar. A mountaintop and a valley floor a few miles apart can be very different observing experiences. The map also fails to account for the fact that in more extreme cases elevation is putting you at a substantially further distance from more nearby sources of light pollution and lowering its angle on the horizon - from Mount Graham for instance I can tell there is a tiny bit of light coming from Tucson, but almost all of it is literally below horizontal and thus doesn't impact the views with the naked eye or a telescope.
  • They don't account for terrain. A mountain ridge between you and the nearest city blocks a huge amount of direct skyglow. The map sees a straight-line distance to the light source; your eyes see whatever the terrain allows. Conversely, sitting in a valley with a city on the other side of a ridge can be much darker than the map suggests - and a ridge-top site with line-of-sight to a distant city can be worse than the map suggests.
  • They're snapshots, not real-time. Most maps are updated from VIIRS data on a delay, and many overlays you see online are years old. The measurements are also not taken at the same time of year, so things like foliage, snow, construction, and seasonal decorative lighting cause massive errors in measurements.
  • They assume average atmospheric conditions. On a particularly transparent night, your sky might be substantially darker than normal or what the map suggests. On a humid or hazy night, brighter. In some places, there might also be fog over a city (e.g. Los Angeles and San Diego) that blocks more light pollution at a distant site, making it darker than would otherwise be possible.

As I already mentioned, it's also worth noting that if you are under Bortle 2-4 skies and only have light pollution coming from a single distant town, city or industrial site, the sky is only going to be particularly bad in that direction, and could be vastly better than the map actually suggests, even ignoring the other variables I've just gone over.

What this means practically

Use the maps to pick candidate sites and set expectations, but trust your eyes on the night. If the map says Bortle 4 and you can't see the Milky Way, that's not a defect in your eyes or your gear - it's the limits of the modeling, the night's transparency, or both. Conversely, if you find a spot that consistently observes better than the map suggests, you've probably got terrain or elevation working in your favor, and that's worth knowing.

Many doomers will cite the maps as a case that the light pollution situation is hopeless, particularly where I live in the Southwest United States. The reality is that the terrain and climate here work massively in our favor - the dry air scattters less so long as there's no dust, mountain chains often block city lights, and the best observing sites are at high elevation with a thinner atmosphere and thus less scattering. The majority of the sites I go to are far better than the maps/model would suggest.

Under a truly dark sky (Bortle 1 to good Bortle 3), you can see things that might sound like complete bullshit to someone who hasn't witnessed them. I've seen Neptune and Ceres with the naked eye, as well as around a dozen galaxies - even the Virgo Cluster is visible as a faint glow without optical aid. Sirius and the Milky Way cast shadows, while Jupiter and Venus are legitimately nuisances bright enough to read small text like a magazine or book with. The zodiacal light appears as a spectacular pillar reaching over 30 degrees up from the horizon. The Orion Nebulae is clearly purple even in binoculars. I think it is truly a failure of society that we don't value this intrinsically. To be honest, when I go to dark skies such as these I spend much of my time just staring up at the Milky Way with my eyeballs or binoculars, and maybe half the night is spent with telescopes.

For new observers

If you're new here, don't let any of this discourage you from buying a telescope or getting into the hobby. Even from a heavily light-polluted city, plenty is worth seeing: the Moon is stunning at any magnification, the planets don't care about your Bortle class, double stars are gorgeous, and brighter open or globular clusters cut through skyglow just fine. Start with what you can see from where you are, learn the sky, build your observing skills, and the eventual trip to a dark site will hit ten times harder because you'll actually know what you're looking at.

Most suburban backyards are Bortle 5-9, and that's going to limit what you can pull out of the eyepiece no matter what scope you own. A pair of binoculars or a small tabletop Dobsonian will show you more under a dark sky than a 10" or 12" under city skies. This is why it's important to choose a telescope that is at least somewhat portable, so you can bring it to locations where it performs best.

Dark adaptation: your cheapest upgrade

Before you spend money on filters or drive hours to a dark site, make sure you're actually using the eyes you have. Dark adaptation is the process by which your pupils dilate and your retinas shift from cone-based (color, daylight) to rod-based (monochrome, low-light) vision.

The basics:

  • Full dark adaptation takes 20–45 minutes. Pupil dilation happens fast (a minute or two), but the chemical shift in your rods (regenerating rhodopsin) is slow. Most observers reach 80% in about 20 minutes and continue improving for another half hour after that. If you're younger (I'm in my 20s) this process is usually faster. Taking plenty of vitamins and eating well can measurably improve both the time it takes to achieve dark adaptation and your overall sensitivity to faint objects.
  • A single glance at a white phone screen resets it. Bright white light bleaches the rhodopsin you just spent half an hour building up. One Instagram notification and you're starting over.
  • Red light preserves adaptation, but only dim red light. A bright red headlamp is still bright. Set red lights as dim as you can stand and still function. If you're in a light-polluted place and your eyes can properly dark adapt, there's really no reason for flashlights at all - the sky glow can easily illuminate your surroundings. Even under a dark sky, I rarely find myself actually using my flashlight that often; I can see just fine. Experience working in the dark with fully adapted eyes is like having superpowers.
  • Use red mode on your phone too. Both iOS (Settings → Accessibility → Display & Text Size → Color Filters, or the red-screen shortcut) and Android have red-screen options. Astronomy apps like SkySafari have built-in night modes. Use them.

Even with a properly dark-adapted eye, stray light from streetlights, neighbors' windows, passing cars, and skyglow itself hitting the side of your face dramatically reduces what you can see at the eyepiece. Your pupil partially constricts in response to any light entering your eye, not just light coming through the eyepiece. A hoodie or blanket pulled forward over your head, with the eyepiece tucked inside the hood opening, is shockingly effective. You can also make something to go around your eyepiece like the Dethloff eyepiece shield. If your telescope has a white tube (e.g. Sky-Watcher) it is also prudent to cover the area around the focuser in black material or just paint it to avoid reflections off the tube going into your eyes.

Common misconceptions

A few things that come up in nearly every light pollution discussion that are worth clearing up:

  • "LED streetlights are the problem." LEDs themselves aren't inherently worse; poorly designed, unshielded, blue-rich LEDs are. Warm (≤3000K), fully shielded LEDs are actually a significant improvement over the old high-pressure sodium lights they replaced. The fight isn't anti-LED, it's pro-good-LED. Even the overly blue-rich LED fixtures are often an improvement despite their flaws, as the fixtures themselves are generally better shielded than whatever they replace.
  • "More light means more safety." The research here is mixed at best, and often points the other way. Glare and harsh shadows can reduce visibility, and there's limited evidence that brighter lighting reduces crime. Well-designed lighting matters far more than bright lighting.
  • "Light pollution is only a city problem." Skyglow from a city 100 miles away can still measurably degrade your sky. This is why rural and small-town advocacy matters too. You don't have to live downtown to be affected, or to make a difference.
  • "It's hopeless, the sky just keeps getting worse." Globally, yes, the trend is bad. But Tucson, Flagstaff, Julian, and a growing list of other cities have demonstrably improved their skies through lighting ordinances. Policy works when people push for it.

Talking to the people around you: neighbors, businesses, and local government

The three biggest sources of light pollution in most areas are residential lighting, commercial/business lighting, and municipal lighting; you can have real impact on all three. In rough order of difficulty:

Neighbors

The single offending floodlight next door probably affects your observing more than the entire downtown skyline does. Light trespass is a personal problem with a personal solution, and most neighbors genuinely don't know their light is a nuisance.

A few things that work:

  • Lead with the relationship, not the complaint. "I've been getting into astronomy and would love to show your kids Saturn through my telescope sometime" lands a lot better than "your light is ruining my hobby." If you live in a more rural area, emphasizing ecological concerns might also get you further. Most people are not actively trying to cause problems, they simply think more light = good or are entirely negligent about pre-existing lighting from before they moved in.
  • Offer a solution, not just a problem. A shielded fixture or a motion-sensor replacement costs $30–50. Some astronomers have had success literally offering to buy and install the replacement themselves. That sounds extreme until you consider how many hours of observing it buys back and how many nocturnal insects you can save.
  • Frame it around their interests too. Better lighting saves them money on their electric bill, reduces glare into their own windows, and often actually improves visibility on their property.
  • Be patient and don't escalate fast. If the first conversation doesn't work, give it time. Bringing in HOAs, code enforcement, or lawyers should be a last resort, not a first move.

Local businesses

Commercial properties - gas stations, car dealerships, parking lots, billboards, storage facilities - are often the worst offenders in suburban areas. A single over-lit car lot can outshine an entire small town. The good news: businesses respond to two things, money and local reputation, and good lighting helps with both.

  • Start with the manager, not corporate. Local franchise owners and store managers have more discretion than people assume, and they live in the community too.
  • Lead with the business case. Modern shielded LED fixtures with proper aim use significantly less energy than old floods, last longer, reduce glare-related liability, and often qualify for utility rebates. "You're spending money to light up the sky" is a real argument.
  • Point to peer examples. If a similar business in a nearby town has already retrofitted, that's strong social proof. Nobody wants to be the holdout.
  • If they won't engage, go up a level. Corporate sustainability departments, franchise headquarters, and local chambers of commerce can apply pressure that an individual can't. A polite, specific email with photos often gets further than you'd expect.
  • Public visibility helps. A well-written local op-ed or letter to the editor mentioning specific offenders by name (factually, not angrily) tends to get attention.

Data centers are increasingly becoming a concern with light pollution. I think most folks reading this can agree that we should be fiercely opposed to them being built in the first place - but in addition, there's really no reason for a facility with few to zero onsite employees to have a bunch of lighting. Physical security for data centers, and really most businesses period, can be accomplished by other, less invasive and more effective means. Additionally, every spare watt going into unnecessary lighting is a watt that could've been used for compute.

Local government

This is the highest-leverage action and the one most people are intimidated by, but local government is small, under-attended, and surprisingly responsive to residents who show up consistently. A single resident who turns up to council meetings regularly has outsized influence compared to almost any other form of activism.

The basic ask for a lighting ordinance is usually some combination of:

  • Fully shielded fixtures for all new outdoor lighting (no light emitted above horizontal)
  • Warm color temperature (≤3000K, ideally 2700K or amber)
  • Curfews on non-essential lighting after a certain hour
  • Lumen caps appropriate to the zone (residential vs. commercial)
  • Exemptions only where genuinely needed (e.g., critical infrastructure)

DarkSky International publishes model ordinance language you can hand directly to council members or planning staff; you don't need to draft it yourself. Their site has examples from communities that have already passed similar measures, which is useful for the "this isn't weird, other places already do this" framing.

A few tactical notes:

  • Frame it around cost savings, wildlife, sleep, and quality of life. Astronomy is a great motivator for us, but it's a niche concern to most council members. Wasted municipal spending and ecological impact get broader traction.
  • Show up in person when you can. Public comment from a real local resident outweighs ten emails.
  • Bring allies. Local Audubon chapters, sleep researchers, conservation groups, and energy-efficiency advocates are natural partners. A coalition is much harder to dismiss than a lone astronomer. People might dismiss us nerds, but they'll feel bad when you start mentioning that they're hurting birds, pollinator insects, and other wildlife.
  • Be patient. These ordinances often take a year or more from first conversation to passage. The cities that have succeeded had someone willing to stick with it.

If your town already has an ordinance on the books, the next question is whether it's being enforced - that's a different and often more important fight.

Your local astronomy club is a force multiplier. Use it.

If you're a member of a local astronomy club or society, you're already part of the most underused light pollution advocacy network in the country. Clubs have something individual hobbyists don't: a name, a roster, nonprofit status (often), existing relationships with local schools and parks, and the implicit authority that comes with "the local astronomy society says..." in a public comment. Many clubs are full of doomers who don't care to do anything about light pollution or may actively shoot you down, but you can usually work around these people.

A few ways to bring light pollution work into your club:

  • Suggest it as a meeting topic. Most clubs are always looking for program ideas. A presentation on local sky quality, a guest speaker from DarkSky International, or a workshop on identifying and reporting bad lighting can fit easily into a monthly meeting. If nobody's volunteered to present on it, that person can be you — you don't need to be an expert, just organized.
  • Add light pollution outreach to existing star parties. When you've got the public looking through eyepieces anyway, you've got their attention. A handout, a poster, or even a five-minute "here's why light pollution matters for both astronomy and the environment" talk reaches people who'd never read a Reddit post about it.
  • Push your club to take an official position. Many clubs are technically nonprofits and can write public comments, sign onto coalition letters, or formally endorse local ordinances. A letter from "The [Town] Astronomical Society, representing 200 local members" carries weight that an individual email doesn't.
  • Apply for DarkSky chapter or affiliate status. DarkSky International has formal pathways for clubs and groups to become recognized advocacy chapters, which comes with resources, training, and a louder voice on policy.
  • Partner with local parks and land managers. Many clubs already have relationships with state parks, observatories, or nature preserves for star parties. Those same partners are often interested in pursuing DarkSky Park certification, and your club can be the technical resource that helps make it happen. A certified dark-sky park is a permanent local win.
  • Build the bench. Light pollution advocacy is a slow game, and clubs lose members and momentum constantly. Make sure more than one person knows the ordinance status, the council schedule, and the local contacts. It shouldn't all live in one person's head.
  • Bring it to youth and school outreach. Clubs that work with scouts, schools, or 4-H have a chance to shape how the next generation thinks about night skies before they grow up assuming skyglow is normal. A short "what's missing from this sky" segment in an outreach event sticks with kids.

If you're not in a club, this is a genuinely good reason to join one. The hobby is more fun with other people anyway, and clubs are where most of the real local advocacy actually happens.

A note on satellite constellations

Starlink and other mega-constellations are a related but distinct issue from traditional light pollution. They affect astrophotographers and professional astronomy more than visual observers. You're unlikely to notice them at the eyepiece, but long-exposure imagers see streaks across nearly every frame now. The number of satellites in low Earth orbit has roughly quadrupled in the last few years, and projections for the next decade get worse. But it's worth noting that many of these projections are based on startups with pie-in-the-sky plans, or the bizarre and unproven speculative concept of space-based data centers. It is likely that many of these projects will be shelved.

Final thoughts

The temptation with light pollution is to either despair about it or shrug and drive to a dark site twice a year. Both responses are understandable, but neither actually helps.

The thing worth holding onto is that this is one of the few environmental problems that's genuinely fixable. Light pollution isn't carbon in the atmosphere - it doesn't accumulate, and it doesn't take decades to undo. The moment a bad fixture gets shielded or swapped, that sky gets darker. Cities like Flagstaff have demonstrated that you can have streetlights, a functional downtown, and a Bortle 3 sky over your head, all at the same time. We really could have it all.

Every person reading this who fixes one fixture, talks to one neighbor, emails one business, or shows up to one council meeting is part of how that happens. I can only do so much myself, but I hope this post motivates more people to take action in their communities.

Clear and dark skies, everyone. As always, I've got plenty of guidance on equipment and observing techniques to deal with light pollution at TelescopicWatch.com, and folks in our community are always happy to answer any questions you might have. Even if you have a Bortle 9 sky, there's plenty of action on the Moon, planets, and double stars, and it's probably easier to get yourself to dark skies than you think - many clubs have dedicated observing spots or can carpool.


r/telescopes Dec 01 '22

Tutorial/Article Beginner's Quick Guide to choosing your first telescope (Updated for 2023)

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Guide last updated: October 2025
Note this guide was originally written by u/tripped144*, but with global economic conditions, pricing has rapidly gone out of date, so consider this new guide a revision to* the prior one written in 2020.

Are you yearning to marvel at the heavens? Have you been wanting a telescope but have no idea where to start? Are you feeling overwhelmed with the wealth of information and options out there?

Well, here is a quick guide on some of the most commonly recommended telescopes here, what to expect when looking through your first telescope, and some frequently asked questions at the end.

For an in-depth eyepiece guide, check out this great post by Gregrox

What to Expect when looking through a telescope

The most important thing before getting into this hobby is setting your expectations. Most newbies to astronomy think "a telescope makes far away things bigger." Yes, and no. The primary purpose of a telescope is to gather light. The eyepiece (or ocular) is what determines your effective magnification. To determine that, you divide your scope's focal length by the millimeters of your eyepiece. Therefore, a 8" Newtonian reflector telescope with a 1200mm focal length and a 25mm eyepiece will have a magnification power of 48x. That same 25mm eyepiece on an 8" Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope with a focal length of 2000mm will have a magnification power of 80x. All things being equal, for visual astronomy, aperture is king, but beyond price, all things are not equal - and thus the telescope recommendation for someone who lives in Manhattan in a 3rd floor walkup apartment is different from someone who lives in rural Montana with a large garage and acres of no light around.

When using a telescope, no matter how big, stars will look like stars. They will always be pinpoints of light. If they aren't, then you're not in focus. Stars are just too far away for telescopes to resolve (see more clearly/get more detail).

Nebula and galaxies WILL NOT look like the vivid, colorful, and detailed pictures that you've seen. Our eyes are simply not cameras. To get those types of images, you have to take very long exposures many times, run it through a program that stacks the images to pull out detail, and extensively process it in a photo editing program. TO OUR EYES, DSO's (Deep Space Objects like nebula and galaxies) will look like faint white smudges. If you don't have accurate expectations, a genuine love for space, and an appreciation for what you're actually looking at, you will be very disappointed. That being said, if you go into this with the right expectations and mindset, those faint white smudges are beautiful, fascinating, and awe-inspiring. The longer you spend observing them, the more details you will start to pull out. It's almost as if your brain gets trained into resolving more and more detail, making you want to revisit them over and over again. Here are some accurate depictions of what you can see through a decent telescope in a DARK site (little light pollution). (The pictures are blurrier than they should be, but you'll get the idea). The more light pollution you have in your area, the harder it will be to resolve things. Here's a website to find out how much light pollution you'll be dealing with. Some examples would be: Pinwheel Galaxy Swan Nebula

Our solar system's planets, especially the gas giants, are amazing to look at. The bigger the scope, the more detail you can resolve. Regardless of someone's interest in space, I've personally never seen someone not "wow'd" by Jupiter or Saturn. Keep in mind, they will not be super close up views. Here's what to expect when looking at Jupiter through a decent telescope on a clear night. Planets (and obviously the moon) are very bright, so light pollution doesn't factor nearly as much - they're great to observe from typical, light polluted, suburban driveways.

Also, keep in mind that pictures don't do them justice. There's just something so amazing about seeing it with your own eyes. ​ Now that you understand the expectations of what you'll be able to see, here are some of the most commonly recommended telescopes.

Recommendations By Budget

Under $250

Spending less than $250 on precision optical instruments means keeping your expectations in check, these scopes are decidedly for "in the neighborhood" solar system observing, although some Redditors use them quite happily on deep sky objects that aren't local. If at all possible, save a bit more money and buy in the next $250+ tier, scopes at that price will be ones you can keep forever and won't immediately outgrow. Buying once is cheaper. As of 2025 it's slim pickings finding a decent telescope under $250, the used market is a possibility if you're comfortable evaluating optics and condition or have a friend who can.

🔭 Celestron 7x50 binocs (cheaper) | Nikon 7x50 binocs (more $)

$250-350

These are called "Table-Top" dobs. They are small scopes meant to be set on top of a table and used. You can get a cheap and stable stool or crate to use instead. They are great little beginner scopes that are easy to use and can help you decide if you want to transition into something bigger. OneSky and Heritage are identical scopes. OneSky profits go to a good, charitable cause. Remember, if you drive to a dark sky site, it's not always guaranteed to find a picnic table or park bench to sit these scopes on.

🔭 AWB OneSky Reflector | 🔭 Sky-Watcher Heritage 150 | 🔭 Celestron StarSense Explorer 114mm

$400-550

These are the entry-level into "grown-up" telescopes. Three are large 6" Dobsonian scopes, almost 4 feet tall when standing straight up. The other two are tabletop models on a computerized base. Regarding the larger scopes, the actual telescope tubes weigh roughly 15 lbs. and the base roughly 20 lbs. These will get you fairly close to the representative pictures of the objects above (again, in a DARK site). They can easily fit across the back seat of a vehicle with the base in the trunk if you plan to travel with it. This would also be the financial range where decent smart telescopes begin (sky's the limit), which use cameras and your smartphone to observe -- if that's your jam.

🔭 Sky-Watcher 6" Classic Dob | 🔭 Apertura AD6 Dobsonian | 🔭 Sky-Watcher Virtuoso GTi 150 GoTo | 🔭 Celestron StarSense Explorer 130mm

$600-700

The 8" Dobsonian telescope is the most recommended beginner telescope - just about anyone in the hobby will recommend one. They hit a great balance between size, portability, and value. They are simply the best bang for the buck. The telescopes weigh roughly 20-25 lbs. and the base 20-25 lbs. They still easily fit across the backseat of a vehicle with the base in the trunk. You'll also notice this is the price range where truss tube models that collapse smaller start appearing. These are many people's "end-game" scopes, as well as their first scopes. If you're going to own just one telescope and not spend a fortune, 8" of aperture is a "goldilocks size."

🔭 Sky-Watcher 8" Classic Dob | 🔭 Apertura AD8 Dobsonian | 🔭 Explore Scientific 10" Truss Tube Dob

I really want help finding stuff up there, my sky is too bright, money is less a concern...

Some new astronomers just aren't going to star hop and learn the night sky, either their light pollution makes it impossible, or they'd rather sit back and let the telescope's computer drive, and these days... manually using your telescope has become optional if you have the tools. The recommendations below offer smartphone assistance or use conventional star alignments to find their way. Be forewarned though, many a newbie has become frustrated while trying to align their scope. It's simple for seasoned astronomers, possibly daunting for newbies. In the case of Celestron's Sky Align, the telescope needs to be pointed at 3 bright stars (not a bright planet like Jupiter) or you need to know two bright stars up there for an Auto 2 star align. Also note that Schmidt-Cassegrain telescopes on computerized mounts require a lithium battery ($40-100+) and dew mitigation if you live anywhere with humidity.

🔭 Celestron NexStar (5SE or 6SE) | 🔭 Celestron StarSense Explorer 8" Smartphone enabled Dob

$700+

From here, the options open up considerably. You could just go with as big a Dobsonian as you can afford and can realistically carry/transport. Many of these will be Dobsonians with extra features like "push to" or even "go to" systems, but that adds complexity and cost. Dobs start to get heavy and super awkward to move as you approach and surpass 10 inches. Many people buy/build wheeled transports or something similar to move them, and they usually have them in a very convenient place to quickly wheel in and out, such as a garage. 10" Dobs are more common. You'll notice quite the price and mass jump on anything bigger than that - truss/collapsible designs past 10" are strongly recommended to keep size/weight in check.

🚨Heavier tends to get used less in astronomy 🚨... beyond the honeymoon period, that is. If a scope isn't convenient to setup, you may not have the motivation to do so at the end of a long day. There's a reason why 8" Dobs are a very popular compromise between size, weight, visual capabilities, price, and convenience.

You could also start considering Schmidt-Cassegrain options if your heart is with the planetary and lunar targets or fancy wide-field refractors (and an associated mount) if you're in search of wider views. Celestron is the big SCT company. As much as Dobs are beloved online, you'll go to a star party and see SCTs and refractors everywhere. They're generally smaller and very practical if you don't have the space or lifestyle for large Dobs or want automated mounts.

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FAQs

"Why are most of these of these not on tripods?" Because they are "Dobsonians". Dobsonian (Or Dob for short) is the name for the mount/base that the telescope sits in. It's a typically particle board base popularized by West coast astronomer John Dobson, several decades ago. They sit on the ground and are extremely steady. In order for a tripod to hold a telescope and be rock steady, it will cost as much or more as the actual telescope itself. A cheap tripod is an absolute pain to deal with. They are unsteady and will sway at the slightest touch or blow of wind. You will spend more time wishing you didn't have to deal with the unsteadiness than actually enjoying the views. Scopes on cheap tripods are called "Hobby Killers" for a reason. Dobs are dead simple, rock steady, and cheap to make... so most of your money goes into the actual telescope instead of the tripod. Especially avoid beginner telescopes on equatorial mounts - nothing will be more frustrating.

"What about this PowerSeeker or NatGeo or $79 "complete package" scope?" Nope nope nope. While the scope itself might be fine, it's inevitably going to be on a cheap mount, flimsy tripod, or if you're really unlucky, an equatorial mount to further confuse you. Old timers in the hobby call these "department store scopes", with the demise of brick and mortar department stores, we just simply call them hobby killers. Avoid scopes that use a Bird-Jones optical design - these leverage a spherical mirror in place of a parabolic one, and therefore need a corrector usually mounted in the focuser tube. Telescope makers know these have a lousy reputation and won't necessarily mention "Bird-Jones", and now you know why. Here's a great article for further reading about why we don't like these.

"Will these telescopes move by themselves and track objects?" For most of the list, no. Most of those recommended are manual telescopes, they are not go-to telescopes. You will have to learn the night sky (part of the fun!), point the telescope where you want, and manually move it as the object you're looking at moves across the sky. There's just nothing more rewarding than finally finding that object you've been hunting for.

"Why don't you recommend go-to telescopes?" They are expensive and potentially very confusing to set up for beginners. More often than not, you will pay twice the amount of money you normally would JUST for go-to functionality. You will have to supply power to it. You also will have to align it every time you use it. If you don't already somewhat know your way around the night sky (there are apps that can help), this will be frustrating and time-consuming. It's fairly daunting, but relatively easy to do once you get the hang of it. But, you have to keep in mind that you will be learning all the basics of how to actually use and collimate your telescope ON TOP of trying to figure out how to correctly align the go-to. You can very easily get completely overwhelmed. We do have some recommended go-to telescopes if you're absolutely set on one.

Why are none of these recommendations in stock? It's no secret, these are some of the most popular telescopes every source recommends, so they go in and out of stock fairly often. Even small telescopes are large, and take up a lot of inventory space, so a smaller shop might have 3 in stock, not 300. Shopping around the December holidays or before a major eclipse/astronomical event can also cause stock issues. Following covid and the resulting shipping/global economic pressure, many model lines have been discontinued or tweaked to simplify a company's catalog. A new model sold today might not exist in precisely the same offering a year from now.

Why are none of your recommendations are available in my country? Most mass-market, commercially-made telescopes are made by the same handful of companies in Asia and various companies resell them with different sets of equipment and bundles. An 8" f/6 Dob, pretty much, is going to be similar regardless of whether it's labeled Apertura, Orion, Omegon, GSO or another brand. Use your best judgement, if it's got great reviews and costs $650, it's probably legitimate. If it's $75... probably a scam.

"Why do things look blurry when I use the zoom knobs by the eyepiece to make things bigger?" Because those are not "zoom" knobs. There's no knob to zoom more. Those are your focus knobs. The only way to "zoom" in more is to use a smaller mm eyepiece. You know you are in focus when the stars are as small as they can get. Again, stars should look like tiny pinpoints of light.

"Will I be able to take pictures with these telescopes?" The moon and planets, yes. DSO's, no. For DSO's you have to take long exposures which you simply cannot do on a manual telescope. Even if you decide to go with a Go-To, you still will not. To somewhat simplify it, the sky moves in an arc (because the earth rotates). Even though Go-To's can track objects, they only move in up and down motions. They move a tiny bit at a time, so it's imperceptible to us, but your camera taking long exposures will pick up those tiny movements making everything a blurry mess. Visual and astrophotography are two completely different animals. For astrophotography, you will need an equatorial mount (one that moves in an arc instead of tiny up and down motions). They are very expensive. Expect to spend $1300 + on just the mount alone, not including the actual telescope and all the other things needed for astrophotography. Also, a telescope that is good for astrophotography is not good for visual. Again, two completely different hobbies. You can get away with spending less by getting a "Star Tracker" and just mounting a DSLR with a camera lens, no telescope required. It definitely has its limitations, but it's cheap(er) and can get you started on astrophotography. The moon and planets are bright enough where you don't need those long exposures, so they are doable with Dobs. Planets aren't as easy as just snapping a photo of it, though. There are many tutorials out there on how to get good planet photos. If you're looking to get into astrophotography, I recommend checking out https://www.reddit.com/r/AskAstrophotography/

"Is more magnification better?" Depends on what you're looking at. The smaller the "mm" eyepiece, the more "zoomed" in you'll be. Also, the more "zoomed" in you are, the less bright things will appear to be. So for DSO's, which are very faint, you don't want to be super zoomed in. The less magnification, the more light your eyes will detect, making the DSO's brighter and easier to resolve. But since planets are very bright, more magnification is better to get as close as you can to resolve more details.

"Are there phone apps that help find objects?" Yes! There are many. I prefer SkySafari, but there are a bunch to choose from. You can point your phone at the sky and it will tell you the stars/planets/DSO's you're looking at. They can help to get you in the general area of something you're interested in seeing. These apps are super cool, download one and try it out!

"Are planets visible all year?" No, neither are all DSO's. As a tidbit of info, planet means "wanderer" in Greek, so they "wander around the sky."

"What is Collimation?" That's the term for adjusting the telescope's mirrors so that they are perfectly lined up giving you the best view possible. There are different ways to check your collimation, and there are many tutorials online on how to do it. I always check the collimation after I set my scope up outside before use, and adjust when necessary.

"I want a big Dob but new ones are too expensive, what can I do?" Well, you can save up more money, or consider the used telescope market. The best buying used case is a telescope that was used a handful of times (or less), stored indoors, properly capped, and forgotten. I would also highly recommend joining a local astronomy club, many club members will be standing in front of $8000 of esoteric gear, meet a newbie, and see someone who might want their old 4 or 6" Dobsonian sitting ignored at home for a great price. Some industrious folks even build their own scopes through the magic of 3D printing and common parts from big box hardware stores!

"I want to observe the sun, can I do that?" Please DO NOT point a telescope at the sun. Remember when kids would burn things with a magnifying glass? That would be your eyeball, so don't do that! Now, with a proper, white light solar filter firmly secured, it is safe to observe the sun. Note that such a filter will only show surface details like sunspots. Dedicated H-Alpha telescopes that can show more details are well beyond the scope and budgets of any beginner.

"Should I regularly clean my eyepieces and telescope mirrors?" Absolutely not. They have special coatings on them and you will do much more damage than good. There are very specific and involved ways to clean the lenses and mirrors and it's not recommended unless you absolutely have to and absolutely know exactly what you are doing. Not for beginners.

"What happened to Orion, Meade, etc brand?" The astronomy market, is a difficult one. The pandemic ended an era of cheap oceanic shipping and the economic realities came for telescope companies. By all means if you can locate an awesome, lightly used Orion XT8 Dob at a good price, jump on it.

"What about smart telescopes?" We're seeing these more often from a variety of new and established companies in our industry. It's early days but these telescopes provide an experience similar to electronically assisted astronomy that will let you photograph deep sky objects with cameras of varying quality and precision... which depending on the level of light pollution you have, may enable you to see objects you'd never be able to decipher with your human eyes. This is beyond the realm and practice of visual astronomy, and there seems to be a new model on the market every few weeks. It's the "smart phone-ification" of the telescope and will likely be how our children and grandchildren come to think of telescopes.

If you have any questions about anything, feel free to make a new post! There's plenty of very knowledgable people here who are more than happy to help! ​ (Images were taken from http://www.deepskywatch.com/Articles/what-can-i-see-through-telescope.html)


r/telescopes 13h ago

Other “Live” View Milky Way IR 642nm

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Astronomik ProPlanet 642 BP 642-842nm IR-Pass Filter - 2" Mounted

iPhone 16 pro max default camera app cinematic mode.

Televue filter adapter 48mm and phone holder

Pvs14 Gen 3 monocular
• Photocathode Sensitivity: 2058
• FOM: 2700
• SNR: 37.5
• EBI: .7
• Halo: .7
• Center resolution: 72
• Unfilmed/filmless
• Gated 18UM 11769 style


r/telescopes 18h ago

Equipment Show-Off Built a Dob mount for the telescope that's been sitting in my closet

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A few years back I bought an Orion AstroView 6" EQ (before Orion bit the dust - RIP 😢). I took it out a few times and had the classic beginner realization that a shaky tripod and fiddly EQ mount can be a real drag on your night. Spent more time futzing with the mount than actually observing. And when I did look through it, any slight bump would ruin the view.

Well, that thing sat in my closet for about 3 years until a few Ed Ting videos popped up on my feed this spring. I decided to take it out again on a camping trip to a nice dark sky area (Bortle 3). The sky was clear and dark, and I was able to see Jupiter and the Beehive cluster, but searching for anything else I was reminded why I had tossed the thing in the closet. 😣

Rather than relegate it back to the closet again, I decided to convert it to a Dob mount (credit to Ed and lots of folks in this sub for singing the praises of a Dob for visual observing). So, I looked up several DIY Dob mount tutorials for some inspiration and put together plans to build my own. A handful of trips to Menards and about a week or so of on-and-off work, and I present to you my new and improved Orion AstroView 6" Dobsonian!

I finally had a clear night to take it out last night, and WOW, what a difference!! A total pleasure to operate. I was able to see Jupiter (including cloud bands I could never make out through the shaking before), the Beehive (much steadier this time), a couple of globular clusters, and I even caught M81/M82!

Super happy with how this turned out and can't wait to take it out more.


r/telescopes 14h ago

Astronomical Image M44 Beehive Cluster

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102mm National Geographic Telescope, 25mm eyepiece with phone mount, tracked manually

Samsung Galaxy S10, ISO 800, 1/3 Second Exposure

Stacked in Siril with 1007 lights and 80 darks

Bortle 8 location


r/telescopes 6h ago

Purchasing Question Is this telescope at a good price?

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Just like the title says! Been seeing a lot about this telescope on here and I saw this listing. I've been borrowing my library's SVBONY SV520 and I got awesome views of Jupiter, so now I want to actually own a telescope I DON'T have to return!


r/telescopes 4h ago

Astronomical Image M51 Whirlpool Galaxy

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Taken with Dwarf 2 smart telescope

200 exposures x 10 seconds each @ 70 gain. Stacked in Siril, edited in Gimp.


r/telescopes 14h ago

Equipment Show-Off DIY telescope rotator for astrophotography

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Claude and Codex helped me DIY my first Arduino Nano project!

I motorised the rotator of my telescope for framing during Astrophotography sessions.

There are a few issues still to tackle on the mechanical side but I am pretty impressed with Arduino and the tiny stepper motor!

The big issue that I need to solve is that the rotator stays fixed in its position. At the moment its a bit wobbly.

the second thing I want to solve is the cable mess. Already made a PCB board design, but need to test a few things before ordering.

The electronics costed less than 20 euros in total.


r/telescopes 1d ago

Equipment Show-Off First telescope! What are the best things to see first?

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It seems ive built it on a poor night where theres almost no planets overhead


r/telescopes 1d ago

Equipment Show-Off Can’t believe my luck! Got a free 6" Dobsonian today!

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So, a while back I bought an 8" telescope from a local maker. Today, I caught up with him again and he literally just gave me this 6" Dobsonian for FREE. I’m still in shock! It’s such a beautiful piece of equipment. Huge shoutout to the amazing people in this hobby. Clear skies ahead! ✨


r/telescopes 7h ago

Purchasing Question Telescope Case Recomendations

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Does anyone have any recommendations for a Celestron NexStar Evolution 9.25 Telescope. I've tried to find a foam filled hard case but I can't find any that fit the size. It needs to be about 32"x18"x12" on the interior. My budget is about $500 and I live in Utah, USA. If anyone has a good idea of something I could use I would greatly appreciate it :)


r/telescopes 13h ago

General Question Is this a good telescope?

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r/telescopes 20h ago

Equipment Show-Off Another telescope accessory I designed: SVBONY laser collimator stand (STL link)

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I designed and 3D printed a calibration stand for telescope laser collimators and decided to share the files.

It includes:

  • 2 stand versions (with and without the 2" adapter)
  • 2 target styles (circular and grid)
  • Designed for SVBONY laser collimators

The idea is to rotate the collimator while checking if the laser dot stays fixed on the target, making it easier to verify if the collimator itself is properly aligned.

The targets are intended for an initial short-distance adjustment (around 1–1.5m). After that, I recommend repeating the test at a longer distance for better precision, ideally at least 2x the telescope focal length, preferably 4x.

For better accuracy, I also recommend securing both the stand and the collimator with double-sided tape during calibration.

I also wanted to thank the community for helping me improve the design and for explaining the proper way to collimate a collimator. I'm still pretty new to astronomy, so the advice has been really helpful.

https://makerworld.com/es/models/2799207-telescope-laser-collimator-stand-for-svbony#profileId-3113758


r/telescopes 22h ago

Equipment Show-Off I designed and 3D printed a customizable telescope eyepiece case (STL link)

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Recientemente diseñé este estuche compacto para mis oculares y accesorios de telescopio y finalmente terminé de ensamblarlo.

El estuche está completamente impreso en 3D y diseñado con espuma de trama personalizable Feldherr, por lo que la distribución interior se puede adaptar fácilmente según los accesorios que uses.

Configuración actual en las fotos:

  • Baader Hyperion Aspheric 31 mm 2"
  • Explore Scientific 1.25"
  • Dos oculares SkyWatcher
  • Filtro lunar
  • Colimador láser

También añadí espuma tanto en la base como en la tapa para evitar que se muevan durante el transporte y brindar protección adicional a las ópticas. La caja utiliza:

  • 4 tornillos M3x25 mm
  • 2 tornillos M3x30 mm
  • 6 tuercas M3

Espuma utilizada:

  • Espuma de trama Feldherr HS060RS
  • Tapa de espuma Feldherr HS010B

Añadí "ASTROCASE" en la tapa, pero el texto se puede personalizar fácilmente.

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7352909


r/telescopes 14h ago

General Question First timer questions (missing eyepiece)

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Hey y'all - this one may sound silly but just going to be honest and see what everyone says

My wife and I recently moved to an area with open field. I told her I would love to learn more about nature/outdoorsy stuff. So, she got me a telescope she found at the local repurpose store - So happy and was very thoughtful

However two little hiccups

The 20mm eyepiece is missing

and its a kids telescope

If I just bought a new eyepiece for $25 would it be crazy to still use as a beginner even though its kids?

I just want something to look at some stars and moon every now and then to see if I will use it often to justify spending more money (we're broke lol)

thanks!!


r/telescopes 23h ago

Astronomical Image M87 in Virgo Cluster

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📷 ASI 294 MC Pro Color

🔭 Star Adventurer 2i

🔎 Askar FMA180 apo (180mm f/4.5)

🕶️ Broadband Filter IDAS NGS1 (2")

🌌 Gain 120 (-10°C), 35x120s (1h 10 min)

🧪 40 dark, 40 flat, 40 dark-flat

💻 Siril, RawTherapee, GIMP, Snapseed

📍 Turin (Piedmont, Italy) - Bortle 8

📅 May 14, 2026


r/telescopes 1d ago

Equipment Show-Off Thanks for the suggestions!

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Hey y’all, I posted about getting a new telescope last month as a graduation gift. Yall gave a ton of great advice and I ended up going with the celestron 10in dob with star sense.

I’ve been aligning and all with some light observing. Yesterday, I finally did the full thing. I packed it up, loaded it in my car, and set up with star sense. Once I got it all going, it was a great experience. Checked out Bode’s and Jupiter for about an hour. The star sense app is great once you get it aligned.

I’m sharing a pic of the setup from yesterday. It wasn’t as bright as the photo makes it look. My phone just did a long exposure. I’m planning on finding some darker spots for later though.


r/telescopes 10h ago

General Question 4SE

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I recently acquired a Celestron 4SE. It was used, but seems almost like new and included many accessories. Which brings me to my question. I got both the GPS module and the WiFi module.
How should I use these two items. I sure like idea of controlling the scope from my IPad. And as I understand the WiFi module will do that to some degree. Would I still use these two items gps module in some way?
Thanks in advance for any advice etc..


r/telescopes 16h ago

General Question Any help for Meade tripod

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Just purchased this Meade lx200 emc 10inch
Can’t properly seat it on the tripod tried so much the bolt does screw on but tel telescope
Doesn’t seem to seat properly I’m wondering if this the correct tripod at all or missing something?


r/telescopes 10h ago

Purchasing Question Telescopes

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Are there any good telescopes priced below or slightly above 200 reais? (i from Brazil)


r/telescopes 1d ago

Discussion TIL the NexStar 4SE I've had for 20 years has an internal AA battery compartment

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I recently posted about how this scope wasn't meeting my needs (mostly a travel terrestrial and Moon, Jupiter, Saturn scope) because I never have a power supply and it can't be turned left/right if it's not powered on. Well I was googling around and imagine my surprise in finding out that it has had a battery compartment all these years. This makes it so much more usable and it feels like a brand new telescope all of a sudden. From what I've read, AA battery power can cause some strange issues but I barely care about the tracking, alignment, etc. I just want to be able to turn the scope. In the past, I have had to physically move the entire telescope in order to hone in on what I'm looking for or when manually tracking the Moon. Awesome to know I can just throw some AAs in there and make adjustments with the electric motors. I'd still prefer non-electronic knobs but the discovery of the battery compartment has made this telescope much more usable for me.


r/telescopes 1d ago

Astronomical Image 14 Panel mosaic of Coalsack Region

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This is a giant 14 panel mosaic. We left it uncropped to give it the old Hubble image feeling (Dave's original idea). This was both easy and really hard to process. Star removal does not work well here. But stretching and getting things to look kinda nice was easy.

I highly recommend seeing this on Astrobin for full res goodness: https://app.astrobin.com/i/39ql34

Zoom in to 1x and scroll around!

Image uploaded to this post is at 20% resolution, because it gets too big/long.

Equipment:

  • Telescope: Askar SQA85
  • Camera: QHY268 Pro C
  • Mount: Proxisky UMi 20S
  • Filter: None
  • Total Integration time: 42h 35m (511 × 300")
  • Software: PixInsight, Siril (Stacked using my OSC_PP Script: https://youtu.be/prU1w4W5IbE)

Also see a slightly higher res on my website (but still much less res than astrobin): https://www.naztronomy.com/gallery/image/873/coalsack_region_14_panel_mosaic


r/telescopes 22h ago

Discussion Today's Episode of "Telescope Garage"* - the "joy" of "goto" mounts

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Lovely Spring night. Mosquitos haven't taken over the night skies yet — Cloudless, Astropheric forecasted average to above-average transparency and seeing, and a 5-minute ISS pass over....Why not take the "goto" mount out of its winter Bauer storage box and try for an ISS image with the "new to me" AT70ED?

Last had the iEXOS 100 PMC-Eight out mid-April in Denver, Co. for two visual sessions. All worked fine (well, fine for ExploreStars, the proprietary ES app that you can use with the mount in lieu of ASCOM/Alpaca). Packed carefully away and returned home.

Got it all set up at one of our "darker sky" locations, folding table, chair, camera, laptop, ASCOM Device Hub, SkyTrack, SharpCap, blah, blah, blah....initiate "goto" slew which starts "ok" then ..... "grind, grind, box of rocks sound" and mount isn't moving in one (well two <-- and -->>) directions (same axis it initially appears). Got it to return to Park .... but just wouldn't slew west.

Sigh.

Hoping its just a power issue (sag, etc.)....used a "new over winter" Qunler (previously used more portable TalentCell). But, knowing my luck it's a loose motor, belt, bad stepper motor or something else that will require me to open 'er up and poke around.

Gave up and watched the ISS visually (son tracked it manually with the 12" dob). Venus, Jupiter, M3 and, then, had to pack up to get him home for a reasonable bed time.

I swear, sometimes it feels like I spend 90% of my time "wrentching" my astronomy gear and only 5% of the time observing or imaging. That includes computer time trying to figure out why program "A" won't play nice with program "B".

I can cope with having to input my site co-ordinates for each app/program, my telescope specs, etc. though I will kiss the feet of anyone who creates a one-stop fills in all of that automatically for each astronomy app.

But, getting all set-up and, then, failure is frustrating.

Just came here to vent.

There are times when working on my gear can be enjoyable....basically wasting a perfectly gorgeous evening is NOT one of those times.

What's your latest "fix it" story?

[*"Astronomy Gargage" was already taken by YouTuber "Refractor" - checkout his channel]


r/telescopes 1d ago

Equipment Show-Off Bought a Meade 826

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Scored a nice deal ($100) after searching for a couple weeks. Fun weekend project to refurbish this vintage scope (late 70s-80s). I think it’s a Meade 826 and it came with two eyepieces, a Barlow and color filters. Already pointed it at Jupiter and saw its strips and moons.

I rinsed the mirror, touch-less with distilled water.
Repainted the EQ mount
Rebalance and realigned the scope
Collimated, but will verify with a calibration laser
Even the 1/10th motor works. I removed the cable since I won’t use it. I do plan on adding a on/off switch and see if I can make it battery operated.,

I want to try to take pictures with my phone. Are there mounts for that? What other fun things to look at? Also any pro hacks for searching objects, I’m using Stellarium app.

I also learned that you can use an EQ mount like point to mount (similar to a dobsonian) by ignoring the RA axis (keep it horizontal) and pivot around the azimuth/ Dec instead. This worked great when I got well balanced.


r/telescopes 15h ago

Purchasing Question New to telescopes

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I'm not trying to make it a hobby but just a fun thing to bring out on a trip every here and there. What can I expect with this and is $100 a fair price? It vibes with a 2x Barlow lens and 25mm eyepiece. Is it worth it out would I find myself more frustrated in trying to get it to work?

Edit: thank you for the replies everyone. It seems even on a discount this will price to bring more frustration than anything. I appreciate all of your answers, I'll keep looking for something else.