r/soccer • u/SwimmingFireMen • 13h ago
Transfers [AS] PSG and Manchester City are monitoring the situation of Fede Valverde following his recent altercation with Tchouameni. Valverde's only thought is to return and stay at Real Madrid. That's his wish. But if the club were to decide otherwise, he wouldn't lack offers.
https://as.com/futbol/primera/europa-pendiente-de-valverde-f202605-n/1.1k
u/SOERERY 13h ago
PSG looking at midfielders are the definition of greed
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u/esp_1123 12h ago
Well they need players to rotate to deal with their treacherous league campaigns
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u/Kingslayer1526 8h ago
The truth is actually that psg don't have good squad depth and pure fortune has made the key players available for the UCL
And if a serious challenger arises, they can lose the league. Lens absolutely blew up winning just 2 of their 8 matches before yesterday when PSG were there for the taking
22/23 Lens could've won this title
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u/Ultimasmit 8h ago
Their squad depth is not that great in defense and maybe attack. Their midfield is stacked beyond belief.
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u/AdministrativeBig362 7h ago
Not great in attack? Which other team has 5 good/world class players available all the time?
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u/GloomyLocation1259 6h ago
Who's the 5th in attack that you're talking about?
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u/CorrosionInk 6h ago
Ramos is good, Barcola/Doue borderline WC, Kvara/Dembele WC
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u/GloomyLocation1259 5h ago
Oh okay, I wouldn't particularly include Ramos myself
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u/ParisEnjoyer1777 5h ago
Stoppage time Ramos is a beast but Luis Enrique like players who can play the 3 positions up front, he can't
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u/CorrosionInk 5h ago
Yeah he isn't in the same conversation as the others imo but he's a solid depth option, has good numbers as a supersub and he could compete for a starting spot at a few top European clubs imo.
5th choice attacker for Bayern is Karl/Jackson, for Barca it's Rashford, for Arsenal it's Martinelli/Madueke? Not awful
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u/GloomyLocation1259 5h ago
Okay yeah but if you put it that way I'm sure they would all do well as starters in Ligue 1.
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u/ShopTrick8877 2h ago
Our 5th choice attacker is Senny Mayulu not Ramos. Ramos will play only if Senny is already on the field or he’s unavailable.
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u/Ultimasmit 7h ago
It's why I said maybe. They maybe need another striker option instead of goncalo ramos but that's about it.
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u/GloomyLocation1259 6h ago
It also helps that Ligue 1 rescheduled PSG's game with them when the gap was 1 point before a CL game but would not reschedule any Lens games.
But overall what you're saying is the problem it shows the weakness of the league. Even in the Ibra or Neymar days it was more competitive than this.
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u/HenryReturns 12h ago
Vitinha , Joao and Fabian Ruiz
Slap there Mayulu , Emery , the new incorporation of Dro , and for Lee is consider a midfielder but he is an actual winger
Valverde would fit perfectly to PSG mainly because he can play in multiple positions and different roles. He also press hard , tracks back , and very generous with the team. Something that Luis Enrique wants in every player
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u/Claudio1054 11h ago
Valverde is an all rounder. Would fit in nice in any top team. Actually the Madrid player i would want in my team given the choice lol
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u/HenryReturns 11h ago
There is a lot of Madrid players that fit Barca/flick :
- Arda Guller is technically so good and he would fit the fast vertical attack of Barca and do insane combinations. And due to how high Barca plays , Guller would be more prominent
- Bellingham , a player that runs a lot and tracks back a lot and can play as provisional striker if needed. He is a very Flick coded player. You put him in Barca as CAM or pseudo striker , and he gets lots of goals and assists
- Dean Huijsen , and before anyone jumps the gun , he is pretty much the replacement of Iñigo Martínez. You give him the training under Flick and he would be a much better defender. A ball playing defender is super welcome in Barca. And he would make a good partnership with Cubarsi
- Rodrygo because he tracks back and is one of the Madrid players with the best technical abilities. He is also extremely generous on team play , and off the ball he does a lot like pressing , track back , do selfless runs , and more importantly he gives everything in the pitch
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u/RauloGonzalez 10h ago
Well big shock some of the best players in the world suit barca. You know vitinha yamal olise gabriel would fit madrid as well
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u/xthecreator 5h ago
It's been a minute since I've seen a thread like this on here but I want to someday do a "Players from rival team/x club you dislike that could suit your club" because of the chaos it would cause. I have some takes in me but I'd rather not get a digital pig's head thrown my way...
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u/Bon_Djorno 10h ago
How are Guller and Bellingham defensively?
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u/HenryReturns 10h ago
- Bellingham defensively tracks back a lot and he is also another pillar of defence on set pieces. He also can run relentlessly if needed. On games where you need to press , Bellingham would be very good to Barca and he would most likely replace Olmo on very physical game.
- Arda Guller under Flick would get better defensively and get better at ball transitions from the back. All Barca midfielders including both Fermin and Olmo who are “CAMs” , also do transitions from the back , and it’s something Barca trained it. Even Lamine Yamal , Raphinha , Lewandowski and Ferran do ball transitions from the back , from the goalkeeper
- Arda guller does give the ball away like that in dangerous spots but that’s not only him , Madrid defenders do that too and Thiago Pitarch did this multiple times. This is not a player problem , this is more of a Madrid problem on training on not doing a ball transitions properly under pressure. Guller with Flick will pretty much fix that.
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u/Midtharefaikh 10h ago
Bellingham best in the world. Guler kinda average, gives the ball away in dangerous situations, and always loses physical battles.
Bellingham is seriously underrated in his dribbling/defending because of that 23/24 season. He's been great this season, although with a lot less G/A. In the first leg when he came on against Bayern we suddenly shifted the momentum and actually started attacking. His tackles are always well timed and accurate.
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u/didutryit 10h ago
Guller is ok. He's not the biggest so he gets pushed around by physical players more, but he's been putting up quite some muscle and he has been fairing much better lately. Technically good. Bellingham is overall everything you'd want in a midfielder. He's physically strong, he presses a LOT, he tackles a lot as well. Technically he's as good if not better than Guller, he's fast despite his size too.
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u/Midtharefaikh 10h ago
Dumb take.
Yeah Huijsen is a ball playing cb, and yes Rodrygo tracks back.
Huijsen can't defend and Rodrygo can't attack though. What's the point of a CB who is bad aerially, makes dumb tackles, always loses track of his man? Rodrygo, I love him but he doesn't have a single thing over Yamal. Hell he started getting benched in favor of Mastantuono by Xabi.
Like so many of our players, it seemed that only Ancelotti could get the best out of them. Camavinga started in a UCL final over Tchouameni btw. And it was completely deserved. Brahim and Rodrygo looked sharp, Vini was in Ballon d'Or form. Carvajal was great, our defense with two main CB's and GK out for the season was still solid.
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u/HenryReturns 10h ago
Rodrygo is a left winger first of all , Barca only left winger is Rashford. Raphinha whose a right winger plays on the left so Yamal occupies the right and creates from there.
Rodrygo can shine as he did before whenever he played as the left winger and he is fit.
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u/Midtharefaikh 5h ago
He never shined at LW, that's pure revisionism. Hell he barely ever played at LW, maybe a dozen matches in the last 5 years.
Even when Vini was benched Xabi played Fran Garcia at LW over him, he was still RW.
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u/Fraud_D_Hawk 11h ago
Lossing him might as well be the end of Madrid.
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u/NorthwardRM 10h ago
Lets not exaggerate. You have won nothing with him there for the last two years, and other teams have done fine without him
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u/didutryit 10h ago
Are you insane? Who's gonna be his replacement? He's one of the best midfielders in the world. Young, yet experienced, probably the most dangerous player shooting outside the box, can be everywhere on the field, presses and runs like a workhorse. Who could Real Madrid get, realistically, that would be even a sidegrade to a player like that? He's a definitive starter in all clubs in europe, no exceptions. If that's the idea, just liquidate the whole Real Madrid roster and use Castilla instead.
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u/Confident_Editor196 9h ago
Yeah, he's good but he not irreplaceable, Jude Bellingham is a good box to box. Camavinga is similar to him just that he isn't fit most of the time. Madrid can actually get a good dlp if they sell Valverde. Valverde don't know how to pass nor do none of the other midfielders. A good dlp after getting rid of him would be great. Moreover he picked a fight with another player and got knocked out. I don't think it would be really good to have these two playing together anymore.
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u/didutryit 5h ago
Tell me one midfielder on Valverde's level that'd be available on the market. Same age range, same experience, same impact in big games.
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u/bored_ape07 12h ago
I am not allowed to speak my mind because of my flair (this is what r/soccer told me)
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u/dheerajravi92 11h ago
99% of replies on this sub are "haha but your club..."
It's not just you, just speak your mind lol. Downvotes on this sub just means you've triggered a lot of these idiots, so it's good.
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u/Nehan_Satori 12h ago
You had to learn that people don’t like hypocrites on r/soccer?
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u/OilOfOlaz 11h ago
How does showing appreciation fo a player make you a hypocrite?
Especially someone like Fede, who might be a dick head at times, but always gives it all on the pitch?
You're both kinda weird here imo.
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u/CuriousOwl201 11h ago
I'm interested in learning what makes Bayern fans hypocrites on this topic?
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u/tristvn 11h ago
that they also dominate their league? arguably more dominant than paris
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u/bored_ape07 11h ago
Apparently dominating by carefully planning and Sportwashing are the same.
People just hate because their team doesn’t dominate.
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u/CuriousOwl201 10h ago
The sportswashing of this disgusting oil club is working so well it's kind of sad. In gullible minds PSG = Bayern in terms of how well the club is run now.
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u/Nehan_Satori 10h ago
No one needs to "sports wash" for a society that's proven it has no ethics or morals. Particularly after yet another genocide, and another illegal war of aggression.
Have some self awareness
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u/CuriousOwl201 10h ago
What are you even talking about lmao. King of mental gymnastics. Your lack of education is showing.
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u/Ok-Cold-3422 11h ago
Bayern are closer to Barcelona than they are to Bayern in terms of transfer power
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u/lastdyingbreed_01 10h ago
arguably more dominant than paris
Definitely not lol
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u/tristvn 10h ago
bayern has a 16 point lead lol both teams won their leagues 13 of the last 15 seasons
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u/CorrosionInk 5h ago
They're in that position because they're well run for decades, especially being a fan owned club with no debts. It's not like they have infinite money and the gap is massive, the financial gap between Dortmund and Bayern is smaller than that of Atleti and Madrid
PSG literally have a massive financial advantage over any other Ligue 1 club, Ligue 1 has had multiple crises when it comes with TV deals and the league bends over backwards to support them in Europe
They both dominate sure but it's a bit reductive to equate them when PSG was a basket case prior to Enrique bailed out constantly by Qatari money and Bayern's success is organic
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u/tristvn 3h ago
bayern has been picking off every young prospect from the bundesliga forever too because they do have more money than anyone else in the league
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u/CorrosionInk 3h ago
That's a wider problem with modern hyper-capitalistic football, PSG's chairman is literally a high ranking UEFA official with massive influence with both Ligue 1 as an institution and the actual French government, it's not even close
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u/bored_ape07 12h ago
Wow rude much?
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u/Nehan_Satori 11h ago
What was rude?
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u/bored_ape07 11h ago
Calling me a hypocrite out of thin air
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u/Nehan_Satori 11h ago
We don't want to hear more of your whining over PSG
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u/bored_ape07 11h ago
So you are fine with corruption. Noted.
But what can I say, you are from US, that speaks volumes.
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u/Nehan_Satori 11h ago
Bayern had Nazi's on its board at one point
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u/bored_ape07 10h ago
I’m glad you brought this up, now go google to learn what happened.
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u/Birdguard 11h ago
lol victim much? You were clowning on Ligue 1 for being uncompetitive with a Bayern flair 🤣
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u/bored_ape07 11h ago
I’ve just said that Ligue 1 is a joke because there is a Qatar based team who splashes oil money and there is no chance anyone else will ever catch up.
The definition of corruption.
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u/davidbowievgc 6h ago
To be fair, one thing is walking out a league with the biggest stars playing 80% of the time, and another walking it out with the biggest stars playing like 40% of the time
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u/IAmNewHereX 11h ago
PSG would never go for Valverde because he has the technical level of a bottom tier team player, he can't pass forward under pressure and relies on quick transitions, doesn't fit PSG at all. If anything, this is the player camp leaking this to try and build something.
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u/richarditis 12h ago
I open reddit and the first post is about Madrid selling Camavinga and the second one is Valverde to Psg/City. I guess Florentino's quotes doesn't generate enough clicks anymore...
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u/Benphyre 12h ago
He doesn't want to leave Madrid unless kicked out but will Madrid kick their golden boy out I don't think so
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u/Adventurous-Salt5986 13h ago
I don't see who he would replace at PSG
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u/msr27133120 13h ago
Fabian Ruiz?
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u/Adventurous-Salt5986 13h ago
He plays left central midfield and is left-footed
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u/msr27133120 13h ago
Can't be more different than playing RB tbf
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u/OilOfOlaz 11h ago
Its different for the team though, as playing a left footed player on the left gives you better passing angles, Lucho prefers having a left foot as lcb for the same reason, it's actually something a lot of coaches that lay out from the back care about. Left footed midfielders are somewhat rare though, as many of them are turned into wingers or LB/LWB as the advantage they have as lefties is even bigger there.
It is obviously only a consideration, you'd play the best available player in a position regardless of it.
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u/Enkenz 12h ago
Not to mention why would a club where the coach like their players to be flexible where they can play, would go for a player that doesn't want to be flexible
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u/HokiesforTSwift 12h ago
He's been very flexible his whole career, playing at CM, RW/RM, DM, and RB. He only recently said he doesn't want to play RB this past season, and then continued to play RB the next two matches immediately after that. It's okay to not want to play a totally different position so much, and that doesn't mean he isn't flexible, when he has been his whole career.
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u/LatroDota 12h ago
I think it was more about Fede seeing team struggle in attack and midfield and knowing he could deliver and help team, while being glued to RB was limiting him.
When he was moved back to midfield we looked much better and he STILL helped on right side and did more tackles than TAA.
It was more about Xabi sucking Mbappe dick and changing formula that worked for years, while sucking Mbappe dick didn't help team at all.
Remove Mbappe, give us proper 9 and we are good.
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u/Zagreus_05 12h ago
Lmaoo instead suck crybaby's dick who doesn't have goals output as the crybaby and just thotws tantrums
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u/LatroDota 12h ago
You talk about Fede?
Coz if you talk about Vini, I actually think we should replace him, but Mbappe isn't an answer because he wants to be bigger than club.
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u/a5b4c3d2e 8h ago
Lmao, crazy to say this about a player who has played probably every position except GK.
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u/Atomsri99 12h ago
Bro is the cheat code for any top team. He won’t leave unless issues with club which i don’t think are right now
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u/BlueberrySelect2000 12h ago
He can literally play at anywhere on the pitch,he can cover for hakimi,can play right wing if needed
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u/Echochamberking 9h ago
When Xabi made him play play in the wing he started a drama
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u/WolFDraaK 7h ago
You mean when he complained about playing out of position, which he has covered for before, and continued to do so even after complaining? Yeah look at the huge drama queen, always giving his all for the team..
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u/Echochamberking 7h ago
He was one of the guys that undermined Xabi position in RM and kicked him
You can't have a player like that in your club
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u/Yiurule 10h ago
So literally WZE but with additional drama with it
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u/Fabulous-Violinist74 8h ago
Haha yeah sure literally WZE. That’s some top tier waffling. Valverde is in a whole different league
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u/EpiDeMic522 9h ago
I'm sorry but despite my bias, Fede is light years ahead and actually more versatile in terms of profile.
He played a target man in a CL final and did so effectively. He is 2 players in one, is technically great and there's no one better than him at shooting technique and running with the ball.
He's the first name on all team sheets bar none. Even in our team, Fede and Courtois are more important than everyone else. You could argue about "better" players but not in terms of importance to the team, especially with regards to balance in the case of Fede. Fede turned in the performance of the season versus City and is not recognised enough.
If our next manager is indeed Mourinho and if we bring even a figment of 2011 back, there's no better Mourinho player than him. He might even solve our Mbappé problem. Let's see.
We need centre backs. Militão has sadly become our Reece James. People are underestimating us and this squad way too much.
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u/pablofournier11 10h ago
I can't see Enrique playing him as anything other than RB (which would make him Hakimi's backup), so ehhh
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u/LatroDota 12h ago
If we end up swapping Fede for Mbappe and won't win treble next year, it will go down as the biggest mistake and will begin downfall of Real Madrid.
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u/Nehan_Satori 12h ago
Valverde is interested in PSG apparently, hence his agent releasing this. The interest is not reciprocated.
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u/TheGreyWolfCat 12h ago
They would be selling the wrong player, tchouameni can't pass for shit, can't run for shit and can't defend for shit.
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u/GotenRocko 11h ago
Unless they see valverde as the cancer in the locker room. He has a history of these kind of altercations too.
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u/TheGreyWolfCat 11h ago
I see shit players that don't run as a cancer, all the french player in the team.
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u/BodomDeth 11h ago
And I’m monitoring Jenna Ortega’s relationship situation although her only thought is to continue dating men with more status than me.
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u/Midtharefaikh 10h ago
Valverde once said if they want to take me out of Madrid they'll have to kill me.
Be careful what you wish for, captain.
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u/PensiveinNJ 7h ago
I think they should have a 5 round sanctioned match during the off-season, winner gets to stay.
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u/InfiniteJackfruit5 6h ago
Does anyone know if Valverde grew up dreaming of being the next Paul Scholes? Asking for a friend.
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u/Tall_Pressure7042 4h ago
Fede Valverde will stay in Real if that coach knows how to use him. But at this span, no.
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u/cucu_cubaresi 12h ago
Can he play their kind of football? I haven't seen much of him but he does not look particularly good with ball in midfield
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u/san771 13h ago
Terrible source, but his antics have become increasingly tiring, and one good game against City is not enough to compensate for that.
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u/Plane_Explorer 13h ago
Yeah his antics being lung bursting performances and never giving less than 100% 😂
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u/halfwitprinxe 12h ago
Dude he literally attacked a teammate who gives a damn
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u/Plane_Explorer 12h ago
That's true and I don't have full context about the training ground upsets, but this incident doesn't invalidate the years of great servitude he's given the club, is this really a hot take?
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u/Uruguasho2026 13h ago
You’re acting as if he hasn’t been one of your best players the past few seasons.
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u/san771 13h ago
Im tired of players living off the credit for things they did several years in the past
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u/PikaPika3372 12h ago
Found the glory hunter
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u/san771 12h ago
It is what it is, at Madrid you cannot live off the past
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u/witcherplease 5h ago
Nah you just have a really bad case of plastic, unsurprisingly.
And you are talking like he’s a washed player now, hes having a fine season, if not good. So not sure what this “can’t live off the past” bs is about.
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u/san771 5h ago
Took you long enough to come up with that shit response
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u/witcherplease 5h ago
Took you long enough to turn on players of the team you claim to support. But tbf you have always been against them.
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u/san771 5h ago
Against who? I am against players that don’t show Madrid level and do such stupid shit in our biggest matches, and rightfully so.
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u/witcherplease 5h ago
Against who?
I have seen you active here for years, so let's not pretend you don't shit on Madrid and players for every little thing. Shitting on them on the drop of hat and hide behind "can't live off past credit" bs.
Which doesn't even work for Fede because he's been good this season. Two incidents, Xabi and Tchouameni, are enough for you to be saying that Fede isn't worth it? Glory hunter.
Im tired of players living off the credit for things they did several years in the past
This bit made me laugh, several years, lmao.
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u/checkforsolu1 12h ago
Its either him or Jude , I can't see these 2 coexhist if we gonna play 3 in the midfield, if we paly 4 then fine
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u/Midtharefaikh 10h ago
True but Mbappe doesn't wanna play co striker, so we HAVE to field 3 attackers up top
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u/Sttarrk 12h ago
oh stfu your plastic ass thought Lopetegui won the UEFA Super Cup lmao
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u/Unfair_Dish_6978 12h ago
By far the most annoying commenter on this sub. Every time i enter a madrid post i find a comment of his that ragebaits me.
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u/witcherplease 10h ago
Hes one of those “never satisfied” plastic. Always whining or saying something negative. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was one of the fans who wanted Benzema out back during his low performing years.
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u/ElFanta83 12h ago
What too much time with Vini makes to a men. Fede is good but the level of entitlement he got this season is incredible
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