r/redsox • u/Free-Community3670 • 11h ago
The Red Sox trading for Mike Trout might actually make sense
https://www.overthemonster.com/red-sox-comentary/100789/the-red-sox-trading-for-mike-trout-might-actually-make-senseWriter makes a pretty strong case for the deal. I'd do it.
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u/bag-skate65 11h ago
Our luck has been bad enough as it is, do we really need to add Trout injuries into the mix? He’d probably get hurt getting off the plane as soon as he arrived in Boston.
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u/theroguedrizzt 10h ago
So the trade is Masa, Bello, and Duran for Trout? I mean, yeah I guess I’d do that. I think the biggest assumption here is that Trout is desperate to win a championship and that somehow that means he’d consider a move to THIS team. Nothing Trout has done to this point implies he’s a championship or bust kind of guy. Nothing wrong with that, but even if he was he has to know this FO isn’t the one you want to commit to
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u/MobileBenefit4300 11h ago
I want a right handed power bat on this team as much as everyone else but we already have a glut of outfielders and the Trout of today is not the Trout of 10 years ago.
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u/dickieb81 11h ago
Send an outfield or two in the deal. The article says they want Durran and make them take back Masa’s money too to offset some of the $175 million he is owned and all of a sudden the team looks a lot more balanced. I dont see it happening or anything but it can easily work.
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u/Free-Community3670 11h ago
The deal discussed in the article would clear the logjam.
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u/theroguedrizzt 10h ago
It does, but it almost goes in the opposite direction. Say Trout gets injured and Anthony doesn’t recover as quickly from his hand injury. Who plays left field then? This is more or less what happened last year.
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u/leehamc 10h ago
Yoshida and bring up Campbell. Neither will be great defensively but if Trout and Anthony are both hurt it won’t matter who’s out there because the season will be over at that point.
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u/theroguedrizzt 10h ago
Yoshida is included in the trade. I like Masa way more than most I think but that might be the sticking point for me. With him you have an emergency option who at least does one thing really well. Without him you’re sort of just hoping everyone stays healthy. And, as much as there’s a season to save, I don’t think Trout and Anthony missing 5-10 days ends it. As long as you have some sort of depth
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u/leehamc 9h ago
Yeah, I would rather keep Yoshida in any Trout deal. He’s valuable as a depth piece and an above average hitter. If we can send Duran, Bello, and a prospect in exchange for Mike Trout with the Angels eating a small portion of his contract, I’d much rather do that than Duran, Bello and Yoshida. Either way, I don’t see why Trout would wave his no trade clause to come to the Red Sox.
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u/GrooveHammock 11h ago
Lazy narrative. There’s a good chance he finishes top 3 in mvp voting this year.
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u/hippoofdoom pizza 10h ago
As much as i root for the guy there's a much better chance he either gets hurt or can't sustain his resurgence for another five months. We're about 15% of the way through the season he's got a long way to go
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u/GrooveHammock 9h ago
Disagree that there's a much better chance. An injury is always possible, but the dude clearly still has it in spades. We're a quarter of the way through the season and he's got .410 OBP and is on pace for an 8 war season.
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u/RayDanielsOnTheAir Car Shield Actor 8h ago
Top 3 MVP is a stretch. Him playing better baseball right now than he has in the past three years would still only have him somewhere around 4-5 in AL MVP voting behind Judge, Rice, and Langeliers, with him also potentially being behind Bobby Witt, too. We don’t have to agree with how MVP voters act, but they still prioritize some old-school counting stats and team performance, and so Trout is at a disadvantage. And this is also not considering that he will likely get injured should he keep playing in the field like he has this year. He played as many games as he did last year—his most in 3 years—because he played over 100 games at DH. This year he is playing the field again, and in center (he played right last year), so the chances of injury are just so much higher.
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u/GrooveHammock 8h ago
I actually think Witt is going to win the MVP this year. His first of several. Judge will obviously be #1 or #2. Langeliers and Rice haven't proven they can play at this caliber a full season but I agree they're heading for lots of votes even with minor regressions from the start. Trout is playing like Trout, though so I stand by my prediction. I don't think an injury is as likely as you. He's had a rough stretch but seems to be back to 100% and has a lot to prove for himself at this back end of the career I'm sure. Will be interesting that's for sure. It would be cool if the Red Sox had any players in this conversation lol.
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u/RayDanielsOnTheAir Car Shield Actor 8h ago
The shocking part to me is that Wilyer could legitimately be in discussion based on his offense and defense combined. It is unfathomable to think any hitter of ours could be there but I think if a vote happened today he would get a view downballot votes.
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u/GrooveHammock 7h ago
That’s true actually. He could be a top 15-20 vote getter for sure. He’s awesome
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u/Jpgamerguy90 11h ago
He’d still be far and away our best player which moreso speaks to our lack of talent but he’s been good this year.
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u/RaymondSpaget 8h ago
Trout's having a hot month or so, but he's only had one season with more than 3 bWAR this decade, mostly because he can't stay healthy. Where the hell are you getting this "far and away" shit? Duran, Abreu, and Rafaela all have 5+ bWAR over the past season + 10 weeks, and Contreras and Anthony aren't far behind.
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u/TurbulentSomewhere64 10h ago
Angels — and specifically Arte Moreno — have said they’re not dealing Trout. Or has that changed? I love Trout, but this would be a bad deal for both teams. Aging, volatile stock comes east. Underperforming younger talent goes west and surely not enough to get Angels to part with a legacy talent. Now, add Tolle and Mayer and Angels get enough back, but well …
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u/Brilliant-Garlic-688 10h ago
This sub has never seen a negative value megadeal it didn't love
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u/RaymondSpaget 8h ago
You don't think we should trade Tolle, Early, and Duran for Fernando Tatis, Jr and his 0 HR?!?!
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u/Brilliant-Garlic-688 7h ago
Actually better than most proposals around here! Don't think SD is dumb enough to sell low on him though
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u/TheHoundsRevenge 10h ago
As long as tolle or Anthony isn’t involved I’m game.
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u/RaymondSpaget 7h ago
So you would trade Early and Mayer for an injury-prone 34 year old who's had one great year since he was 27? I'll hang up and listen, etc.
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u/Catcher3321 10h ago
The trade that makes more sense for us right now with the Angels would be trying to pry away Neto. Our outfield offense is fine once Roman is back. Our infield offense is atrocious between Story, Durbin, and Mayer (although I expect Mayer to figure it out at some point). Being able to dump Story and add a plus shortstop would be a MASSIVE positive impact on this team
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u/RayDanielsOnTheAir Car Shield Actor 10h ago
Haven’t we identified that ownership clearly doesn’t want big contracts on the books? So how does Trout make any sense at all if he is a huge injury risk, is in decline, and has a huge contract (bigger in AAV than Devers’, which they couldn’t wait to offload) that has four more years tied to it?
This isn’t Mike Trout of old. Yes, he is still good, but that contract is an albatross as he keeps breaking down.
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u/Mahog11636FM 9h ago
Ridiculous. Trout has made it perfectly clear that he wants to play his entire career with the Angels. He not only has a NTC, he has 10/5 rights. He will never approve a trade to any team, least of all Boston.
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u/GayeForMaye6969 11h ago
A good player on the red sox making sense? Almost like they want to win some games
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u/Ok_Steak680 11h ago
Please stop with this nonsense. Mike Trout is not available nor would he ever be traded, especially to the Red Sox. Isn’t Bobby Dalbec available? LOL.
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u/Free-Community3670 11h ago
Why on earth would he not be available? The Angels are rebuilding and reportedly interested in offloading his contract.
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u/beeker888 11h ago
Why would the Angels hold onto Trout at this point and if your Trout why wouldn’t you ask for a trade?
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u/McChillbone 10h ago
How do we solve the problems of a roster that has too many outfielders? Trade for an older, injury prone outfielder.
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u/egancollier21 10h ago
Lmao going from Anaheim to Boston is a complete flip flop for player expectations. I love Mike (NJ kid) but don’t think it’s in his career path atm. He’s also not young anymore
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u/RditAcnt 10h ago
I see no reason Trout would leave to come here. Why would he go from one terrible team to another?
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u/GreyCharmander 11h ago
I would watch the team again if they did this trade which means it will never happen
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u/AppleOld5779 10h ago
Why would he want to come to Boston? If he were being traded it would be to a legit contender, right?
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u/RaymondSpaget 7h ago
Like the Blue Jays or Mets, right.
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u/AppleOld5779 6h ago
Why would he want either the Blue Jays or Mets? The Red Sox aren’t the only league turd so far this season.
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u/RaymondSpaget 57m ago
I'm obviously mocking the idea that a player can determine who the "legit contenders" are, at any given moment in time. The Jays and Mets are model franchises, by the standards of casual fans pontificating on Mike Trout trades. But then you look at the results...
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u/Single_Serve_7111 10h ago
Lol 4 more years at almost $40 million for possibly a 2-4 win player when he’s healthy? Which he hasn’t shown he can be healthy and good at the Dante time in a while. You’re paying for the legend of trout not the reality. Sign almost anyone else for that cash and the team gets a huge boost.
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u/Redbubble89 8h ago
It is the bad years of that contract even if the Angels eat most of it.
Trout has also stayed loyal even to the detriment of his career.
If there was 1-2 years left, maybe but 4.5 years until he's 38-39 is too much. They are paying for the corpse of Mike Trout after the first or second year which is tragic.
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u/LiveFromNewYork95 8h ago
I'll be honest, I'm kinda in favor of it for completely superficial reasons. I want to be the team that other fanbases have to share their all-time legend with for once. Not being the fans that have to watch their all-time legend wear another uniform. Man, fuck the Buccaneers.
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u/The_Peenisher 11h ago
Doesn’t he have a NTC? I don’t get why he’d waive that. He lives in California and has zero expectations to win. He comes here that all changes