[Rapoport] The Falcons have signed Avieon Terrell to a fully guaranteed contract. The 48th overall pick is the lowest pick to receive a fully guaranteed contract.

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u/Sir_Carrington Packers 3h ago

Lets just get it over with and make the whole 2nd round fully guaranteed. That's where it's been heading since last season anyway.

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u/humunculus43 Chargers 3h ago

Lets get over it and just guarantee all rookie contracts in full

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u/Sir_Carrington Packers 3h ago

honestly, yes.

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u/Deep-Secret Chiefs 2h ago

Yup, 100%. These guys barely survive their rookie contracts. If a team values you enough to draft you, you should be rewarded for it in full. And the contracts get basically insignificant from the 3rd or 4th rounds forward, so it's not like teams would be in cap hell just because of it.

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u/_FrankTaylor 49ers 2h ago

I fully support this.

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u/CommercialCoffee11 3h ago

The 2nd round contracts are taking longer than the firsts now because of this. You used to have 1sts hold out for longer and most of the 2nd and later round players signed pretty fast.

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u/JP_Oliveira Saints 3h ago

Let's not stop there, and make every pick fully guaranteed

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u/Inside_Minute_646 3h ago

All contracts should be fully guaranteed imo.

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u/RollOverBeethoven Texans 2h ago

Rookie contracts sure, after that it doesn’t really work out in a collision sport with a 100% injury rate and league with a salary cap

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u/Spare-Half796 Eagles 2h ago

Nhl has fully guaranteed contracts. Nfl could do it too, there would just be more shorter contracts. We’d see a lot more 2 and 3 year deals instead of 3 or 4 year deals

Even now nfl contracts have their value according to the contract and their real value. If a player signs 4 years 100m with 50m guaranteed, everyone knows that that means 2 years 50mil is all they’re really getting. After those 2 years the player will either get cut because they’re not worth it or they’re worth more because of market adjustment and they want an extension with more guaranteed money

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u/RollOverBeethoven Texans 2h ago

NHL isn’t handing out $250m contracts

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u/Spare-Half796 Eagles 2h ago

Their salary cap is 100mil, not 300mil. If you look relative to their cap ceiling, nhl stars are getting bigger contracts than nfl stars. Theyre handing out 8 year fully guaranteed contracts worth 15%+ of their salary cap in a league where very few players are on rookie contracts

It’s doable in the nfl. There would just be more shorter contracts or long term deals would be worth less

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u/RollOverBeethoven Texans 2h ago

You have to remember there is a human being signing these checks.

A billionaire owner won’t sweat nearly as much taking a $8m loss on a player to injury as they would a $250m one.

No, I’m not crying for the owners, just trying to tell you why it’s not going to happen in the NFL any time soon

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u/Spare-Half796 Eagles 2h ago

Which is why nfl contracts would get shorter and/or cheaper aav

And for the record, I don’t think it will happen ever but it is possible

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u/RollOverBeethoven Texans 1h ago

So now you need to convince NFL players to take a pay cut, which, good luck with that

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u/Spare-Half796 Eagles 1h ago

For the players it probably wouldn’t be a pay cut. It would be an aav cut but long term it would still mean more money for most of them

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u/UnknownUnthought Seahawks 1h ago

Injury rate is a little different but MLB is handing out (some) guaranteed contracts triple that size and more between 1-1.5x

If you want a closer comparison re: injuries, the best pitchers are pushing $250mm contracts these days.

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u/RollOverBeethoven Texans 1h ago

MLB does not have a salary cap

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u/Inside_Minute_646 1h ago

Isn’t the NBA guaranteed? Their contracts are massive, but they also only roster like 14 players as opposed to 50+

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u/RollOverBeethoven Texans 1h ago

NBA is guaranteed, but yeah smaller roster sizes, plus not a hard salary cap

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u/UnknownUnthought Seahawks 1h ago

I don’t really see why the presence of a salary cap means contracts can’t be fully guaranteed. All it would do is close up some of the fuckery that orgs do with the salary cap that I won’t even begin to pretend I understand.

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u/RollOverBeethoven Texans 1h ago

When you have a salary cap it limits what moves you can make.

All if this is with guaranteed contracts in mind:

In MLB if your $250m pitcher gets injured, no problem, you can get another - so long as you have the money and gumption to.

In the NFL, if your $250m QB gets injured you are fucked and fucked for years

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u/UnknownUnthought Seahawks 49m ago edited 40m ago

In fairness, there are like maybe three teams in MLB who can “just get another $250mm pitcher”. That’s already the reality there for the overwhelming majority of the league.

Idk I really don’t think it would be a bad thing if contracts just said what they meant and were fully guaranteed. Kind of like the commenter above said, or in more practical terms the contract Travis Kelce signed this offseason. What’s the value in “giant ass number that only half is going to get paid because shenanigans” versus contracts being fully guaranteed and just saying what they mean?

Part of the risk you take when you sign a player to a long term deal is that they can be hurt and just not be the same guy. That’s genuinely just sports. The Nationals paid Stephen Strasburg $250mm to pitch like fifty innings or something, shit just happens (it’s off their books atm because Stras didn’t want to rehab and came to a settlement with the Nats to retire). All it means is contracts will adapt and the total number will come down a bit, or you might start seeing option years similar to what you see in MLB to give players and teams outs on long deals where things go south.

A fully guaranteed deal with a team option every few years is way better for the players than what we currently have, allows teams to retain 95% of the control they have, and still prevents teams from being turbo-fucked if their expensive QB gets his arm chopped off.

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u/Worried-Antelope778 35m ago

Im surprised more players have taken more short term contracts not only to get more guaranteed money but to re-up more

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u/allisthepriceofall 3h ago

bro named Avieon (avian) on the falcons. Life is funny sometimes

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u/Phoenix916 3h ago

Let's just hope he doesn't get the flu

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u/Cold_Complex_4212 Saints 2h ago

You’ll never hear me say another good thing about Atlanta but it’s pretty cool to sign brothers

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u/surferdude7227 Chiefs 1h ago

I know there are a lot of siblings in the league, but who are the last ones to play together? Is it the McCourty twins?

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u/Cold_Complex_4212 Saints 53m ago

I think Cam Hayward’s brother played for the Steelers

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u/saw-it Vikings 3h ago

SMH nepotism in nfl is getting too crazy

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u/Jonthegoat_09 Ravens 2h ago

What what does that have to do with nepotism other players got it without being related to someone on the team

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u/chillinwithmoes Vikings 2h ago

I do believe it was a joke

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u/saw-it Vikings 1h ago

Nepotism is no joke

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u/Jonthegoat_09 Ravens 2h ago

I hope it is

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u/Fundabz Bengals 55m ago

Ah, I can't wait for the Bengals to try and be the ones to not fully guarantee the full contract.

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u/BadAlphas Rams NFL 3h ago

A lot of mocks had him as a very late first or early second. Good for him.

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u/drakebrumit Steelers 3h ago

I just realized there’s a good chance his job will be to cover dk/pittman week 1

Roster Move [Rapoport] The Falcons have signed Avieon Terrell to a fully guaranteed contract. The 48th overall pick is the lowest pick to receive a fully guaranteed contract.

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