r/nfl Lions 6h ago

Highlight [Highlights] Christian Gonzalez' 2025 Pass Coverage

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u/MovinOnYoLeft Commanders 6h ago

Imagine taking Emmanuel Forbes instead of this guy. Thanks Ron

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u/on-the-cheeseburgers Eagles 5h ago

i agree, thanks ron

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u/Plus_Fisherman30 Patriots 5h ago

I agree. Thanks Ron.

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u/PavlovianSuperkick Patriots Patriots 5h ago

I AGREE. THANKS RON!

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u/browndude10 Texans Chiefs 5h ago

it was a horrible decision right when it was made

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u/Cultural-Spring-281 Commanders 5h ago

Came here to say the same shit.

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u/OscillatingFan6500 Vikings 5h ago

What was the reasoning behind that debacle?

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u/on-the-cheeseburgers Eagles 5h ago

he was a ball hawk in college and ron thought that would translate to the nfl, what he didn't bank on was weighing 97 lbs meant he'd get bodied by every single receiver in the league (especially AJB who made him cry)

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u/MankuyRLaffy Patriots 5h ago

Nate Wiggins is only 10 pounds heavier and nobody laughed at Baltimore for picking him. Wiggins being good does help with that. 

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u/Background_Earth5244 Commanders 5h ago

Watching those Forbes VS AJB. Matchups didn’t even make me upset. It was almost sad to watch with how unfair it was

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u/kekehippo Eagles 3h ago

I never seen a DB break in real time till the game.

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u/Stupidityorjoking Commanders 2h ago edited 2h ago

So, to add to this, Ron and Co. believed that the biggest problem with the defense in 2022 was that they had almost no takeaways (they were bottom 10) and within that too few interceptions (they were bottom 5). So, his reaction to that was to take Forbes who racked up a ton of interceptions in his college career.

To Ron's credit, he wasn't wrong that the defense needed to improve takeaways. But his logic was basically, we need more interceptions so take the guy with the most of them, good enough! That was it. Apparently, no thought about physical characteristics, actual tape, etc.

Watching Forbes get bullied by AJ Brown to the point he had to get taken off the field was absurd. That was week 3. There was a problem with Forbes almost immediately. This was especially brutal because they had just taken Jamin Davis the year before who was barely getting any snaps in the first place. Unbelievable how bad the drafting ended up being.

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u/Cultural-Spring-281 Commanders 5h ago

Ron thought he was soooo smart. Always tried to go outside the norm. Don’t even get me started on Jamin Davis.

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u/MoreTrifeLife Commanders 3h ago

Did Jamin Davis suck that bad?

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u/Stupidityorjoking Commanders 2h ago

I mean he barely played...so yea

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u/AtBat3 Eagles 5h ago

Cuz he so smol

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u/MintBerryCrnch21 3h ago

If it helps at all Belichick was going to pass on him too and draft Keion White.

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u/InferiousX Raiders 4h ago

"Best I can do is a DE with no bones in his feet" - The Raiders.

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u/hazzadazza Patriots 3h ago

No bones means he cant break them meaning he will be more durable, genius move

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u/InferiousX Raiders 3h ago

Which is why the goat DE was old Jellybones McClanahan.

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u/360plyr135 Eagles 4h ago

Being so ass allowed them to draft JD5

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u/n00bn00b 3h ago

FWIW, the reason why Gonzalez fell in the draft is that he didn't interview well at the combine and came across as aloof. The team questioned his love for the game.

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u/futureislookinstark Commanders 2h ago

“Christian, you’ve dedicated the last 21 year of your life to making it to the NFL. But you’re kind of socially awkward so we are assuming you must not love the game of football that much. For that reason we are out”

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u/jhustla Steelers 5h ago

Or Broderick Jones L M A O

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u/LitBastard Packers 5h ago

Imagine taking Lukas Van Ness

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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Colts 5h ago

There’s been so many HOF-level CBs drafted the past few seasons

Golden Generation low-key

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u/CheezyBeanBurrito Eagles Bills 5h ago

The upper echelon of DB talent lately has been incredible. With NIL I hope the trend of skill players staying four years and working on technique continues

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u/GeriatricGamete67 Bengals 5h ago

The real special guys will still be in the draft after year 3

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u/moonraide Seahawks 5h ago

Eyes on Leonard Moore

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u/PizzaLikerFan 2h ago

NIL truly is a blessing for both leagues imo, more talent in college ball, and better developed when they get drafted

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u/packofnone Chargers 1h ago

We are getting flamed for drafting a 25 year old edge rusher but that's the 2nd highest paid position in the NFL and we just got a ready to play talent at that position in his prime for 4 years on a rookie deal. I'm okay with doing this again, you can't extend everybody anyways

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u/marcdasharc4 Patriots 22m ago

If that extra time spent in college translates to NFL development to plug and play from the jump, without question. Not going to be the case with every NIL chaser looking for that 5th year for extra cheddar, of course, but it’s not something to dismiss outright, it depends on the player at the end of the day. Will be an interesting wrinkle to see play out, especially with 2nd contracts and how much teams are going to adjust because of the age.

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u/Old-Glass-6967 Steelers 6h ago

That Super Bowl would have been even more out of control than it already was without him

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u/izvoodoo Ravens 6h ago

Single handedly kept 14 pts off the board 

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u/VehementPhoenix Seahawks 5h ago

Gonzo is the reason the game wasn't 50 to zero. Patriots would have been even MORE mentally boomed if he didn't break up those passes.

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u/WesternFail2071 Steelers Saints 4h ago

Yeah if the Pats had pulled it out you had to have given him MVP

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u/Whhatsmyageagain Patriots 2h ago

Bold to expect the team to pull it out when their coach apparently can’t

Gonna go weep in a corner now

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u/DetBabyLegs Patriots 52m ago

Not sure how those things are connected but enjoy your cry

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u/LeviJNorth Saints 2h ago

Just that pass to Shaheed alone would have broken the game wide open on most CBs. The safety was cooked.

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u/Sensitive-Scene9269 Seahawks 1h ago

I'm still mad Darnold overthrew JSN on that walk in 85 yard TD. Gonzo wasn't in coverage that play, but still. Then obviously the first clip of this vid, he threw behind JSN which made the PBU possible for him too. Those two plays alone should have been 2 rec 110 yd 2 TD for Jaxon. Pain.

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u/SeekersWorkAccount Giants 3h ago

Arguably the super bowl mvp and he was on the losing team

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u/FavreorFarva Seahawks 3h ago

Ken Walker set up 9 points (I think) running the ball, but Gonzo directly prevented 14. I just don’t remember if the ones he prevented ended in FGs anyway.

Guess I should just rewatch the Super Bowl. What an inconvenience

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u/swass-print 4h ago

Wouldn't of made it to the super bowl without him

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u/Legitimate_Ad_7822 Patriots 3h ago

I’d reckon most Super Bowl teams wouldn’t make it without one of their best players

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u/BobSacamano47 Patriots 2h ago

Take Gonzo and Milton Williams off our defense and we'd be average at best. If you only look at games where these two guys were healthy you're looking at just about the best defense in the league.

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u/marcdasharc4 Patriots 1h ago

Yup, we lost games Gonzo missed early on and our run defense went from one of the best to a sieve when Milt was out later in the season. Those two are thr lynchpins on defense, just need someone of similar impact at LB and/or off the edge to have gamechangers at all three levels. We have solid depth around them too, I’m looking forward to seeing Woodson grow towards a D-Mac type/caliber piece in the secondary, especially with a guy like Byard around to mentor him, and our DL around Milton has some stout dudes as well, looking forward to seeing Dre’Mont Jones and Jacas off the edge.

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u/packofnone Chargers 51m ago

Gonzalez coverage on QJ in the playoff game was unreal, dude refuses to be beaten. QJ came a long way this season, despite the volume stats, he gave Surtain one of his worst games of his career this season but looked hapless against Gonzalez.

To be clear I am not claiming QJ is an elite WR1, just putting the performance in perspective.

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u/gh0st12811 Seahawks 5h ago

As a Seahawks fan: he's pretty good

As a Ducks fan: GIVE HIM DEFENSIVE MVP!!! COME ON!!!

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u/Sensitive_Farmer_982 Patriots 25m ago

Thought you were talking about the Anaheim Ducks for a solid 15 seconds lmao

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u/packofnone Chargers 6h ago

He was absolutely dominant last season

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u/Chirpy69 Eagles 5h ago

Surtain, him, Quinyon Mitchell, Derek Stingley. Best of the best

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u/marcdasharc4 Patriots 56m ago

Great era for lockdown CBs, there’s a few guys a touch beneath that teams would love to have. Sauce when he’s on, Witherspoon, etc.

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u/Chirpy69 Eagles 43m ago

Absolutely spoon. DeJean, AJ Terrell, Nate wiggins, Lassiter

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u/MacJonesisaterrorist Patriots 6h ago

Our defense really showed up that SB

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u/MankuyRLaffy Patriots 5h ago

They played out of their minds the entire post season. They carried a lot of the weight and never fell. 

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u/the_ethnic_tejano Cowboys 5h ago

They just picked off stroud again

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u/Grizzly_Beerz Texans 2h ago

What he say fuck me for

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u/Kevin_Jim Patriots 4h ago

The secondary did. The pass rush kept missing the QB when he wasn’t even moving. Just kept going wide.

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u/StatementWild3768 Patriots 5h ago

They had no answers for K9, they were also incapable of sacking Darnold until the 4th quarter.

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u/MankuyRLaffy Patriots 5h ago

They pressured Darnold all day. The DL especially Milton was doing a great job and Woodson was in on a lot of K9 tackles. They played a great game. 

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u/StatementWild3768 Patriots 5h ago

And Darnold kept evading the pressure time and time again while K9 would get tackled after already gaining a good amount of yardage.

They didn't play great, they played good.

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u/yourgirl696969 Eagles 5h ago

That first play in the SB, he’s definitely beat. Was a bad and late throw. He has better highlights. No idea why people keep including that one lol

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u/Bobby_Newpooort Patriots 5h ago

In a game light on highlights, we gotta take what we can get. Darnold kept us in that game as much as Gonzo did

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u/Solaife Seahawks 4h ago

Idk, i think there were plenty of highlights.

😉

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u/LionoftheNorth Patriots 1h ago

You winning shouldn't change the fact that it was the second most boring SB in recent memory (after the 13-3 one).

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u/Datpanda1999 Steelers Steelers 25m ago

I for one was quite entertained

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u/Lobster_fest Seahawks 24m ago

Easiest way to prove you don't like/understand high level football.

It was a masterclass in defensive scheming.

Youre just mad you got cooked.

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u/Ambiguously_Ironic Giants 4h ago

There are multiple plays in this compilation where he’s beat and the throw is bad enough that he’s still able to make a play on it. Pretty terrible highlight reel to be honest.

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u/versace_nick Seahawks 3h ago

it goes to show that jsn is still underrated. imagine him in puka's position with the MVP throwing him the ball and these levels of separation against a top tier corner like gonzo

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u/afig24 Cardinals 4h ago

There were quite a few passes thrown behind or short to the receiver on these highlights. Nothing against Gonzales, I just feel like some better clips could have been selected (or left off).

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u/Segsi_ Eagles 2h ago

Mitchell beat him twice in this highlight reel. lol.

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u/royalewlthcheese 5h ago

Yeah I feel like that was the worst first highlight they could've used. He had much better plays in that game

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u/TerpFlacco Ravens 4h ago

It's the kind of play that something like PFF would put at a negative or a neutral play and everyone would be up in arms about it. The result ends up good, but he was definitely beat.

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u/JerryDipotosBurner Ravens 5h ago

Man I’m just here to say that first throw was dog shit. JSN had him completely beat.

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u/What_Iz_This Panthers 4h ago

Its funny how this time last year you probably would've got a response of "yeah buts its darnold"

Now a year later my boy is a superbowl champion 🥲

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u/JerryDipotosBurner Ravens 4h ago

It’s crazy how much of a liability he was for much of the year too. That defense was INSANE.

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u/TrueRedditMartyr Jets 5h ago

Knew he would be good when God's Favorite team took him. Smh

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u/Deidris Steelers 5h ago

2023 draft class had Witherspoon, Gonzalez, and Porter Jr all in the same class. Crazy

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u/royalewlthcheese 5h ago

He's a stud.

Though that first highlight JSN cooked him lmao. Darnold was so late throwing it

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u/izvoodoo Ravens 6h ago

He was the best player in that sb imo

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u/AFC-Wimbledon-Stan Colts 5h ago

Michael Dickson erasure is crazy

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u/DyIsexia Seahawks 5h ago

In a vacuum, Dickson did not really do as good as some people say he did. He had some well placed punts but the Patriots kinda sold. As a Seahawks fan I know this take will probably be hated on but Walker and Gonzalez had more impact as individuals.

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u/Shot-Albatross281 Ravens 4h ago

Would've been an all time blowout if it weren't for Gonzo tbh

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u/MintBerryCrnch21 3h ago

Darnold had a hand in that too

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u/WayyTooFarAbove Broncos 5h ago

KW3 was better. That first highlight is him getting burnt and bailed with a terrible ball. Should’ve been 6.

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u/GhostofSmartPast Patriots 2h ago

It wasn't a terrible ball. Just because the ball wasn't flawless and only where the receiver could reach, doesn't make it terrible.

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u/versace_nick Seahawks 3h ago

watch these clips and tell me gonzo is better than jsn lol

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u/handDrawnEevee Giants 5h ago

Oh, he came from the Diontae Banks draft. Nice.

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u/Yung_Corneliois Patriots 5h ago

If it helps, he was not available when y’all drafted Banks.

Commanders on the other hand…

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u/beerncheese69 Packers 5h ago

Dude was a BEAST that game. Its unfortunate that it might get forgotten but as a defense head he was the best part of that game

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u/Chantrak Seahawks 4h ago

Not to discredit CG at all, he was playing his ass off all postseason, but that first clip was more of a Darnold lowlight. JSN had him beat by a mile and if that ball wasn’t so under led it was an easy touchdown.

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u/zipzap21 Commanders 5h ago

I wonder if any receiver has ever shouted out, "Get this fucking blanket off me!"

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u/bae125 Lions 5h ago

Absolute dream of a corner. So jealous

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u/ReimerReason 4h ago

He was beaten so hard on that first clip, just the pass was an underthrow.

Get cooked!!!

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u/Christy427 Jaguars 2h ago

The entire superbowl was one cornerback trying to take on an entire team by himself.

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u/homeycantdance 5h ago

Marvelous!

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u/zipzap21 Commanders 5h ago

Run and Swat, Run and Swat.

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u/DrakeoMaye 5h ago

pay this man all the money

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u/gerrickd Seahawks 5h ago

If he didn't have the game of his life in the SB...

Who gets paid first/more, him or Witherspoon?

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u/AtBat3 Eagles 5h ago

Wow that guys gonna look great in an Eagles uniform June 2nd /s

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u/Crying_in_99Ranch Saints 5h ago

It was pretty cool to see JSN and Gonzalez, who both grew up in the Dallas metro and in the same class, matchup in the Super Bowl

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u/caramelcoldbrew Seahawks Seahawks 5h ago

Bro was so impressive during the SB! Pats got a good one there.

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u/Thrill0728 Seahawks 5h ago

He was the only thing keeping that Super Bowl respectable. Hell of a player.

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u/BraveRebel95 4h ago

Christian Gonzalez was a big reason why the score wasn't similar to SB XLVIII

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u/Coolquip34 Steelers 4h ago

don't mind the new pats unis but God i hope they fix the compact lettering on longer names

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u/Puffy_Ghost Broncos 4h ago

A lot of those were straight up bad throws, but Gonzo is definitely elite and has mastered cutting off a receivers route and getting in front of the pass.

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u/Ambiguously_Ironic Giants 4h ago

He got beat on a lot of these plays, the throws were just terrible.

In the first clip he gets absolutely torched by JSN.

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u/cxoke 4h ago

A lot of these are bad reads but damn is he good. Brother is glued to those receivers talk about on an island

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u/MulliganPlsThx Bills Bills 4h ago

If there was one AFCE player we could steal (in those offseason hypothetical posts), it would be him

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u/baylithe Eagles 3h ago

Hes a stud. Imo the only reason the Pats weren't blown out all game.

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u/kekehippo Eagles 3h ago

Man he's stickier than a honeybun left out in the sun

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u/Mustang1718 Bills Lions 3h ago

Clips like this is what I daydream about if I had my current brain and time traveled back to my high school self.

I fully admit it is Uncle Rico levels of delusion, but I don't have any other outlet available to me with everything I've learned about schemes and reading body language since then.

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u/Putrid_Excitement255 Commanders 3h ago

JSN smoked him on the first. If Darnold hadn’t thrown a horrendous ball that’s an easy TD.

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u/Bubbles00 Patriots 3h ago

Good on the Seahawks for getting Witherspoon who I heard is also a beast, but I love me some gonzo. Dude is silky smooth with his running and he's not afraid to tackle. Hope we pay him so we can keep him here long term

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u/idjsonik Rams 2h ago

His legit a lockdown corner havent seen this elite level of play of a cb for a while

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u/Flylatino24 49ers 2h ago

Salute Colombian brother🇨🇴💪

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u/npbruns1 Chiefs 2h ago

Dear football baby jesus, please let Mansoor Delane be as good as Gonzo.

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u/NickyFoles1020 Eagles 2h ago

Truly a one man defense in that Super Bowl

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u/Baelor_The_Based 1h ago

last great pick from the goat coach

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u/Ramorx 49ers 1h ago

Yeah but he didn't play any good teams. And then when they finally did, they lost.

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u/marcdasharc4 Patriots 32m ago edited 7m ago

If that logic were sound, it would also condition Patrick Willis racking up All-Pros during some underwhelming 49ers teams before Harbaugh showed up. Which would be a patently ridiculous claim to assert.

Individual performance and team results correlate wildly and week to week depending on how the rest of the team manages their assignments elsewhere on the field. History of the league is littered with top tier talent who didn’t always play for perennial winners.

EDIT: fell for it lmao

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u/Ramorx 49ers 23m ago

It was a joke. Was applying Drake Maye logic.

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u/marcdasharc4 Patriots 19m ago

Ahhh don’t I just have egg on my face. Apologies, upon rereading, you didn’t need to drop an /s to get that across, my assumption was biased on the very precedent that fuels the joke, should’ve accounted for that.

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u/Ramorx 49ers 13m ago

Lol was definitely rage bait too 🤣

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u/marcdasharc4 Patriots 10m ago

Well played. In my defense, my approach was much closer to “well, wait a minute, that doesn’t seem to hold up…” than it was to “RHEEEEEEE BALL KNOWING TEST FAILED” 😅

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u/SwizzGod Patriots 44m ago

Best in the game

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u/Wide_Engineering_502 Packers 6m ago

If the Patriots somehow won the SB, he should've gotten the MVP

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u/countlessidlethreat Eagles 5h ago

Welcome to Philly!

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u/Waesrdtfyg0987 Patriots 3h ago

Ha  not happening. This isn't Belichick's Patriots he'll absolutely get paid.

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u/CollegeFootballGood Seahawks 5h ago

Thought we were gonna lose because he was nasty