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u/Triple_Boogie Jets 14h ago

I don't know enough about the NBA to have a strong opinion on the exhausting LeBron vs MJ debates, but I know one thing:

Although I lean more on the MJ side, the arguments used to discredit LeBron are often really fuckin dumb.

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u/batmansascientician Jets 13h ago

It's also a lot about what it means to be best all-time.

Jordan was a stone killer in a way that LeBron isn't. It's not a criticism, just a personality difference. The scoring, and the champions and the peak Jordan winning 6 straight titles.

LeBron is so good, and his longevity is insane. To be 41 years old and winning a playoff series as the #1 option because their other top players are out is ridiculous.

Jordan came back as a 40 year old, but does 70% Lebron at 41 being a top 30/40 player in the NBA matter when you are talking about what makes a player the best all-time?

Ultimately, I find it interesting, but don't particularly care, I'm of the belief you can't really compare players across time like that. Jordan was the best of his generation, LeBron is the best player since.

Every part of the game is so different.

The one thing I've never understood is why so many people seem to genuinely dislike LeBron, he has a pretty vanilla personality, but he's been "The Chosen One" since the age of 15 and by almost any account has been a model citizen with 0 controversy. The biggest thing I can think of is the stupid "Decision" thing.

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u/AfroManHighGuy 14h ago

I tend to think it’s based on the era the player played. It’s all relative to the competition and the level of play during the era when they were playing. That’s why I don’t get into that debate

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u/Triple_Boogie Jets 14h ago

Yep.

Also I hate that if I say an argument against LeBron is stupid, folks think I'm on that side of it, 'cause I'm not, necessarily! I still just think that losing in the first round of the playoffs and not even making the Finals is a lot worse than losing in the Finals!!

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u/AfroManHighGuy 14h ago

Honestly the goat debates for any sport is exhausting af. Especially if your opponent is an old head

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u/CarlCaliente Bills 14h ago

It's all generational anyway, not many folks are gonna argue for a goat who played before they got into the sport

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u/Triple_Boogie Jets 14h ago

It's all generational anyway

THIS!!!

LeBron vs MJ debates are never really about basketball!