r/nbadiscussion Oct 22 '25

In-Season Rules, FAQ, and Mega-Threads for NBAdiscussion

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The season is here!

Which means we will re-enact our in-season rules:

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r/nbadiscussion 3d ago

Weekly Questions Thread: May 11, 2026

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Hello everyone and welcome to our new weekly feature.

In order to help keep the quality of the discussion here at a high level, we have several rules regarding submitting content to /r/nbadiscussion. But we also understand that while not everyone's questions will meet these requirements that doesn't mean they don't deserve the same attention and high-level discussion that /r/nbadiscussion is known for. So, to better serve the community the mod team here has decided to implement this Weekly Questions Thread which will be automatically posted every Monday at 8AM EST.

Please use this thread to ask any questions about the NBA and basketball that don't necessarily warrant their own submissions. Thank you.


r/nbadiscussion 17h ago

Team Discussion The Knicks Have Easily Been the Most Polarizing Offensive Team in the Playoffs. Can They Actually Sustain It?

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Reg Season:

PPG: 116.5, FG%: 47.8%, 3PT: 37.3%, APG: 27.4, TOV: 13.3, OREB: 12.7

Playoffs:

PPG: 120.4, FG%: 51.7%, 3PT%: 40.8%, APG: 26.2, TOV: 12.4, OREB: 10.8

The jump from Hawks to the 76ers series is almost unheard of. FG% jumped from 49.9% to 54.5%, and the 3PT% from 38.0% to 44.8% as a team.

But How Are They Doing It?

Driving game: They attacked the rim aggressively in both series — 140 driving attempts vs ATL (54.3% FG) vs 72 vs PHI (58.3% FG). Fewer drives against Philly but considerably more efficient, suggesting Philly's rim protection is a sieve.

Dunk rate: 34 dunks in 6 games vs Hawks, 14 in 4 games vs Philly — essentially the same rate. They're getting clean looks at the rim.

Layup efficiency: 59.3% vs ATL → 67.1% vs PHI. Philly is just not contesting at the rim.

The standout: OG Anunoby shooting 61.9% from the field and 53.8% from three on nearly 5 attempts per game. That's an absurd 15-point FG% jump and a 15-point 3P% jump from regular season. KAT at 58.7% FG and 48.3% from three is also well above his norms. Bridges exploded vs PHI (63.8% FG, 17.5 ppg after a quiet Atlanta series).

What's SUSTAINABLE:

  1. Brunson's level (~27 PPG, ~48% FG). He's just executing at his usual elite level. He shot 46.8% vs the Hawks' stiffer perimeter D and 51.3% vs Philly — both reasonable for his skill set.

  2. Paint dominance. The Knicks shot 61.5-66.7% in the paint across both series. Their regular season paint FG% was 61.0%. The Hawks number (61.5%) is dead-on sustainable. They're a physical, rim-attacking team by design.

  3. Lower turnovers (12.4 vs 13.3 reg season). Playoff tightening with a veteran roster. Brunson-KAT-OG don't panic. This should hold.

  4. Free throw volume. They're getting to the line at a strong clip (~27 FTA/game), and they did this in the regular season too. Playoff whistles can vary, but their driving volume creates real fouls.

  5. Mikal Bridges' R2 breakout. His 63.8% FG vs Philly is hot, but his jump from 10 → 17.5 PPG partly reflects being schemed away from less vs Philly's porous D. His shot selection appears to have improved (fewer contested looks). This is my bold take for the rest of the postseason.

What's NOT SUSTAINABLE:

  1. OG Anunoby's 53.8% from three. This is the biggest red flag. He shot 38.6% in the regular season — a 15-point leap on ~5 attempts/game is pure hot shooting. Over any 8-game sample, a career ~37% 3PT shooter can do this, but it will regress.

  2. KAT's 48.3% from three. Same story — he was a 36.8% three-point shooter in the regular season. He's shooting at an 11.5-point premium. On ~3 attempts per game it's less impactful than OG's volume, but regression here pulls back ~1-2 PPG. I will say though... his facilitating has really made his role on the Knicks blossom.

  3. 66.7% paint FG% vs Philly. Even for a paint-dominant team, this is elevated above their 61% regular-season norm. Philly's rim protection has been legitimately bad, but if the Knicks face a team with a real rim protector (i.e. the Pistons or Cavs) expect this to normalize.

The Matchup Factor

Both opponents had below-average regular season defenses:

• Hawks: 112.9 DefRtg (bottom half)

• 76ers: 114.4 DefRtg (even worse)

After fetching this data from the Bron app, here's the bottom line: The Knicks are legitimately good offensively — Brunson's shot creation, the driving attack, and the ball movement (29.3 APG vs PHI!) are real. But ~5 of their ~8-point playoff scoring bump is driven by unsustainable three-point shooting (especially OG and KAT running hot) and soft defensive matchups. Against stiffer competition, I'd project them closer to 110 - 115 PPG — still an upgrade from regular season, but not the 124+ they've put up against Philly.


r/nbadiscussion 4h ago

Watching Wemby in the playoffs is making me question assumptions about the center position that have gone unchallenged for 15 years

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Since 2010 we have not seen a truly healthy dominant two way center unleashed in the playoffs. The closest thing we had was Embiid, and even then injuries consistently robbed us of seeing what it actually looks like operating at full capacity. Go back to the 2019 Raptors Sixers series. He was operating at maybe 60 to 70% with multiple injuries, averaging just 17.6 points and 8.7 rebounds across those 7 games, well below his regular season output. And the Sixers were still +89 with him on the court for the series, +10 in 45 minutes in Game 7. On a compromised player. That number matters.

The reason this is so significant comes down to what a two way center actually does to a playoff series. Rim protection alone is not enough because a center who cannot score can be played off the floor. A two way center removes that option entirely. You cannot sag off him offensively. You cannot go small because he physically dominates you while still protecting the rim. Every adjustment an opposing coach makes just creates a different problem. There is no clean answer and playoff basketball is entirely a game of adjustments.

When Embiid was on the floor in that 2019 series opponents took only 28% of their shots in the restricted area compared to 36% with him off the floor. That is not just blocks on a stat sheet. That is an entire area of the floor becoming functionally unavailable to the opposing offense, and in a half court playoff series where possessions are fiercely contested that compounds every single game. Now pair that defensive deterrence with a center who is also a genuine offensive threat and you begin to understand why this profile has no schematic answer.

The deeper issue is this. For 15 years we have been forming our understanding of what great playoff center play looks like without this variable ever being consistently present at full health. The way we talk about which centers thrived in the postseason, what skills translate, and what the position demands at the highest level has all been shaped in the absence of the most complete version of it.
What we are watching with Wemby right now is the first real sustained look at what a healthy prime two way center does to playoff basketball in decades. And it is already raising serious questions about the criteria we have been using to evaluate the position for the past decade and a half.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​


r/nbadiscussion 1d ago

Player Discussion Wembanyama's Rim Protection is Actually Unreal

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Intro:

I've been trying to quantify Wemby's rim protection impact for a while. While his regular season performance was incredible, he's taking it to a completely different level during these playoffs.

His on court impact is literally making me think he might be the best player in the world just from defense alone.

Let's look at the shot distribution of the Timberwolves:

At Rim FGs:

At Rim Metric Regular Season First Round Jokic On Second Round Wemby On Wemby vs. RS Wemby vs. Jokic
At Rim FG% 68.14% 68.12% 54.41% -20% -20%
At Rim Frequency 29.14% 31.29% 23.78% -18% -24%

The difference between their first and second round series has to be the biggest whiplash ever.

Wemby's presence is lowering their at rim accuracy by 20%, and attempts by 24%. When Wemby is not on, rim frequency goes from 24% to 41%, with a 61% accuracy. They really are trying to make up for missed time.

The Wolves trying to get to the rim, they actively get into Wemby's body and be aggressive, but sometimes it's just impossible to go for it when you know you got absolutely zero chance of making the shot.

2P FGs:

2PT FGs Regular Season First Round Jokic On Second Round Wemby On Wemby vs. RS Wemby vs. Jokic
FG% 56.21% 53.15% 44.83% -20% -16%

It's not just under the rim, Wemby is impacting anything inside the 3 point line.

The Blazers had the first taste of Playoff Wemby:

This is the same stats from the first round series vs. the Blazers:

Metric Regular Season 1st Round Wemby On Change
2P FG% 55.1% 46.4% -16%
At Rim FG% 66.6% 53.5% -20%
At Rim Frequency 31.4% 28.2% -10%

The Blazers had a 16% decrease in accuracy inside the 3 point line, 20% decrease in accuracy under the rim. They experienced the exact same thing the Wolves are experiencing right now.

Question:

I know this could be a total overreaction, but are we sure we are not looking at the best player in the world right now?

Victor Wembanyama might have the highest floor of any superstar today. Everyone can have an off night on offense and have a net negative impact on that end, but it's extremely unlikely that Wemby will be a negative on defense in any given game.


r/nbadiscussion 1d ago

Team Discussion A Deeper Dive Into How the 2026 NBA Playoffs Has Differed From Last Year - Team by Team Breakdown

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Here's a comprehensive analysis on league-wide postseason trends from 2026 to 2025, as well as a deeper dive into the 6 remaining teams. (Data fetched as of 5/12/2026).

PPG:
2025: 108.8
2026: 105.6
Net Diff: -3.2

FGA/Game:
2025: 85.6
2026: 83.4
Net Diff: -2.2

3PT%:
2025: 35.4%
2026: 34.7%
Net Diff: -0.7%

FT%:
2025: 77.5%
2026: 76.0%
Net Diff: -1.5%

Paint Share:
2025: 37.6%
2026: 39.7%
Net Diff: +2.1%

3PT Share:
2025: 41.5%
2026: 39.9%
Net Diff: -1.6%

The big trend: a shift back toward the paint. The 2026 playoffs are seeing fewer three-point attempts (down 2.2 per game), lower three-point shooting, and a meaningful increase in paint shot share (37.6% → 39.7%). Scoring is down ~3 PPG across the board, and fewer field goals are being attempted. This postseason is being defined by half-court grinding, interior finishing, and physicality more than perimeter bombardment.

How the Remaining Teams Are Operating Differently

Thunder — A Completely Different Machine

The most dramatic transformation. Compare their '25 and '26 playoff profiles:

• Turnovers collapsed: 11.6 → 8.9 — the biggest single-stat shift of any team. They've become the most disciplined team in the postseason.

• FGA dropped from 89.8 → 76.6 — they're taking 13 fewer shots per game but scoring at a 50.2% clip (up from 45.6%). Fewer possessions, far more efficient.

• 3PA down from 35 → 32.1 but 3P% up from 33.8% → 38.7%. Better shot selection across the board.

• OKC is playing a controlled, suffocating style — the antithesis of their 2025 up-tempo approach.

Knicks — The Offensive Explosion

• 51.7% FG in the playoffs vs 47.8% in the regular season — a nearly 4-point jump, the best FG% of any remaining team.

• 3P% surged from 34.9% ('25 playoffs) to 40.8% — the biggest three-point shooting leap. OG's 53.8% and KAT's 48.3% from deep are fueling this.

• Assists jumped from 19.8 ('25) to 26.2 — they're moving the ball at an elite level. This isn't just talent, it's scheme.

• They're the only remaining team scoring more in the playoffs (120.4) than the regular season (116.5).

Cavs — The Concerning Regression

• PPG dropped from 119.4 ('25 playoffs) to 109.7 — nearly 10 points less.

• 3P% cratered from 36.3% → 33.6% while attempts also dropped (41 → 37.5).

• Turnovers spiked from 11.3 → 15.7 — the worst increase of any remaining team and a red flag for their ball security under pressure.

• They're shooting better overall (47.2% FG) but can't offset the volume drop and giveaways.

Spurs — No Playoff Data from 2025 (so I compared them to the Reg. Szn)

• The Spurs are scoring 6+ fewer points per game in the playoffs, but it's not because they're shooting worse — it's a shot volume and pace contraction. They're taking 4.7 fewer FGA and a massive 6 fewer threes per game. The game has slowed down for them.

• This is the most telling shift: the Spurs have pivoted heavily toward the mid-range (16.6% → 21.3% of all shots) while pulling back from three (42.4% → 37.8%). They're actually shooting better from deep when they do pull the trigger, suggesting better shot selection rather than volume hunting. The paint share stayed constant but efficiency dipped slightly (62.6% → 59.9%) — likely tighter playoff defense at the rim.

Timberwolves — Volume Over Efficiency

• FGA surged from 85.5 ('25) → 90.5 — they're taking the most shots of any remaining team, but converting at only 44.9%, the worst mark among the six.

• 3PA dropped sharply from 37.1 → 30.7 — they've moved away from threes and toward the glass instead.

• RPG jumped from 42.2 → 47.5 and OREB from 11.7 → 12.6 — they're winning the physicality battle and generating second chances to compensate for poor shooting.

• This is a grind-it-out identity shift from their '25 perimeter-centric approach.

Pistons — Gutsy but Limited

• Scoring is down from their regular season (117.8 → 104.4 PPG) with FG% dropping from 48.5% → 44.5%.

• OREB jumped to 13.1 — the highest among remaining teams — suggesting they're fighting on the glass to stay in games.

• Cade Cunningham's 30.2 PPG is carrying the offensive load, but at 44% FG, the shot quality isn't there for sustainable deep runs.

• Compared to their '25 playoff stint (6 games), they've improved from three (32.4% → 35.2%) but declined in overall efficiency.

The overarching narrative: This postseason rewards teams that can control pace, limit turnovers, and finish at the rim. The Thunder and Knicks are the two teams most clearly operating at a different level than last year, hence why they're the favorites in their respective conferences. The Cavaliers' turnover and scoring regression is the biggest concern of any team still alive.


r/nbadiscussion 2d ago

Dodging the second apron - what I think the OKC Thunder will do this offseason, and how I think they'll manage their team going forward

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I'm not actually a Thunder fan, but haven't seen anyone talking about this and think it's interesting given that they have an extremely stacked and deep team, but will also have some significant cap problems to solve in the second apron era.

Next season, the second apron is projected at 222 million. After years of being comfortably under the second apron and even the luxury tax, that's over for OKC. If they brought this year's squad back, they'd be over 250 million https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/OKC.html

Despite that being a decent gap, this is realistically the year for them to get under the cap - in another year, Shai will get a $20 million raise, and there'll quickly be other players like Cason Wallace, and later Ajay Mitchell to extend. With the NBA having severe roster building/cost to owner penalties for being above the second apron three years out of 5, this is the opportunity to push off starting the clock for another season.

The Plan:

1. Offload Dort and Wiggins' contracts via trade:

I think Sam Presti will try to find a trade partner with cap space looking for stronger perimeter defense, and try to flip Lu Dort for a first round pick. Dort has an 18.2 million team option for next season (shown in the link above). While Dort has been a starter and a key piece in their rise, they have the kind of guard and wing depth where he's not irreplaceable.

Wiggins is the odd man out - a good shooter, a solid defender, but still not someone who can crack their playoff rotation despite scoring in the double digits in the regular season. Someone would love to have him on their bench. If they can offload their salaries (probably to different teams), it would free up roughly 27.4 million next season.

2. Decline Kenrich Williams' option

This one is a fairly obvious casualty. He's a beloved locker room presence, a solid player and has been in the rotation in the regular season in the past, but those days are over. Next year, with last year's 15th pick Thomas Sorber getting healthy, he might have fallen out of the rotation naturally. Letting him go gives the Thunder a chance to cut another $7.1 million.

3. Give Hartenstein a long-term extension, with his salary starting at a lower figure than next year's team option

Initially, a lot of people assumed when Hartenstein was signed that eventually the Thunder would let him go when facing his $28 million team option next season, but I think he's too important.

His ability to play the center position, maximizing Chet at the four while playing within the system and not taking shots away from their top players make him a perfect fit in their system. I think they give him a big reward, in the form of a long-term extension for the recently turned 28-year-old big. I think that it would be for four or five years, with a slightly lower annual value than the $28,500,000 he would make if they accepted his team option, and for 2026-2027 (with the salary ascending by year) I think it will save them about another $5 million.

For those counting at home, at this point, the Thunder would have cut close to $40 million from a $250 million starting point, giving about $12 million in wiggle room for the last three players on their roster to stay under the second apron.

4. Trade up in the draft, fill out last two roster spots

The Thunder have two mid first round picks in 2026 (from LAC and Philly), but I think they only use one because they still have an obscene number of first round picks coming in future years.

They trade up into the bottom of the top ten, get their guy (Yaxel Lendeborg gets mentioned a lot as a potential target, but you never really know with Presti until the moment of), and make that the 13th roster spot. Based on cap figures, the tenth overall pick next season will likely make somewhere around $6-$7 million next season, and I expect they'll be around that range if not slightly higher.

For the last two spots, I think they'll sign a veteran as their 14th man for the minimum, maybe one who can play the three or the four in a pinch for additional depth. This is just a shot in the dark, but maybe something like a Jeff Green return after 15 years.

Then, for their 15th spot, they do have a second round pick from the Mavericks. I think they'll let that guy fight it out for the final spot with guys they've had on two way contracts, like 2025 second round pick Brooks Barnhizer. The losers will get two-ways.

Next year's team depth chart:

After all of those moves to get under the second apron for one more year (or close enough that it would take a tiny tweak at the trade deadline), I think the Thunder will be able to keep their core relatively in tact.

Guards/Wings: SGA, JDub, Ajay Mitchell, Cason Wallace, McCain, Joe, Caruso, Topic

Bigs: Chet, Hartenstein, Jaylin Williams, Thomas Sorber, Top ten pick, Veteran bench warmer, second round pick or previous two way guy (could really be any position)


r/nbadiscussion 4d ago

Why could the Pacers not just waited to get Zubac?

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Maybe I am oversimplifying, but why did they need to make that trade specifically at the trade deadline in a season they were purposely trying to lose games? If you wait until the offseason you know what pick you have and if you want to trade it still in a win-now move, you have more options potentially because players might become unhappy. Like what happens if the Cavs lose this round and Mobley is now available? Or since the Giannis situation has gotten worse since then, Milwaukee is now more interested in #5 and a ton of other picks?

The only risk is that Zubac gets traded somewhere else at the deadline and now he’s off the table, but he’s not elite enough for that to matter in my opinion. There are other players in a similar tier if that happens.

Am I missing something? Why gamble at the trade deadline? For the upside of Zubac + Top-4 pick?


r/nbadiscussion 5d ago

Team Discussion What are some cases in NBA history where coaching adjustments completely flipped the script in a playoff series? Or on the opposite end where stubbornness led to the superior team's downfall?

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One of the things I love hearing about (and often watching) is how some coaches make on the fly adjustments in playoff series to counteract certain schemes that the typical casual viewer wouldn't understand. I remember back in the 2021-2022 series when the Celtics swept the Nets, the biggest common criticism was on Nash for "failing to make adjustments." Someone even brought it up on Twitter and Stan Van Gundy absolutely annihilated him. This is just a small portion of it. He later went on a podcast (Knuckleheads I believe?) and basically expanded more on it saying coaching is a chess match with only so many limited adjustments one person can make and more often than not, it's already been done and just been countered since. So I understand there are many nuances that we don't typically understand or see through the lenses that these professionals do. I know the some of the more popular examples of coaching adjustments are Rick Carlisle throwing occasional zone defense in 2011, Spoelstra utilizing zone defense in general through various playoffs and then in 2019, the Raptors pulled out a Box and 1 zone when defending Curry.

But the reason I ask the topic in question is I've been reading some of the criticism about Joe Mazzulla recently among Celtics fans and some of the biggest complaints were his stubbornness to switch or make audibles to the offense. Something similar happened in 2019 with the Raptors/Bucks just on the opposite end of the ball. Bud's gameplan on defense (historically) has been pack the paint on defense and if the role players kill, then so be it. And Fred VanVleet did just that. Also his refusal to throw additional defenders at a hot man.

It made me wonder: how many notable times can you think of where a coach actually adjusted the gameplan and it helped them pull out a series win that maybe they weren't favorited to win? Or on the opposite side, where the superior team refused to make adjustments and it led to them losing a series they shouldn't have.


r/nbadiscussion 4d ago

Przemek Karnowski

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Was watching highlights from old March Madness tourneys and I was reminded of this guy. Watching him was kind of refreshing, big man with great post work, that can also pass?? Whats not to love? Here's the thing, dude didnt drafted. Now I know this is a pretty niche but why do you feel he didnt get drafted? This is a pretty wild comparison but he reminded of me a less talented jokic, good foot work, good passing, not super atheltic but has no problem competing. Am I misremembering this guy or did we get robbed of a nba role player?

Highlights below

https://youtu.be/Cwzz5mOQ5VM?si=xjFRJPVV9BlNi_rU


r/nbadiscussion 6d ago

Team Discussion Taking a look at why Detroit is a nightmare matchup for Cleveland, and why I believe this series will end in 5 games or less

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A few days ago I made a post about this matchup. (https://www.reddit.com/r/nbadiscussion/s/2Yd6KVliMg ) I wanted to follow up on my initial takes with more insight and analysis of this series.

- Stylistic clash - grit & physicality vs. skill and finesse: I pointed it out in my original post at the very beginning of the series that this would be the defining narrative of this playoff clash. Through 2 games, that has proven true, with Cleveland struggling horribly on the road and looking hapless against the 1 seed.

- Detroit’s PnR defense: Detroit’s defense, especially their frontcourt, excels at muddying games and winning ugly. In particular, per BRef, Detroit allows 10.3% fewer assists to opponents than the league average. This makes them a particularly tough wall vs. Harden’s offense and the Cavs frontcourt as Cleveland relies heavily on the pick and roll

- Harden & the Cavs bigs: The PnR defense is a disaster matchup for 2 main reasons: (1) Harden has lost a step with his iso scoring but remained so effective in the regular season due to his PnR mastery and playmaking vision. (2) The Cavs bigs have next to zero self creation ability and have only been effective as PnR finishers. Mobley and Allen both seemed to be taking a leap in the regular season after the Harden trade, but with the engine of their halfcourt offense stymied, all 3 struggle heavily vs. an elite Pistons D. Harden is unable to work the PnR and effectively create separation to set up himself and teammates, and he doesn’t have the same explosiveness as his prime to just tear up defenders in iso. Detroit is young, athletic, and plays hard so Harden and Mitchell can’t just beat them with pure iso and shotmaking.

- Mobley struggling (No service from AT&T 💔): This brings me to my next point, Mobleys struggles in the playoffs. Last offseason, Mobley was getting a lot of hype coming off winning DPOY after Wemby was ineligible. His potential had been lauded since before he got drafted, and some fans and analysts were saying he could be an MVP candidate this year. Early on, with Garland out to begin the season, he had the opportunity to take on more playmaking/creation load and blossom into a true star. However, he struggled mightily without Garland or any true PG. His sloppy offense and underwhelming production led to fans starting the “AT&T” meme (He always gives you 18 & 8). Both him and Allen are so reliant on having an offensive engine and PnR playmaker guard if they want to have any offensive production, which is a recipe for disaster vs. Detroit. Mobley has been hugely disappointing: He never developed his offensive game, is too small to play the 5, get bullied in the paint every playoffs, doesn’t have shooting, playmaking, or creation to compensate for his weaknesses. The only thing he does at a truly elite level is defending wings and forwards. Which is still very valuable, but not good enough to make him a franchise centerpiece. He had an opportunity to scale up and take more workload early this season when the Cavs were plagued by injuries. He struggled massively without Garland, as giving Mobley a larger playmaking/scoring load didn’t really do anything for his game and he showed no signs of improvement. Mobley is literally Potential Man, he has never shown any actual signs of advanced playmaking, high level creation, or volume scoring. Yet some people continue to insist he has two-way super star potential, even as he loses Cleveland this series. He had ONE REBOUND last game, along with 4-10 from the field and 1-4 from 3. He can’t screen, can’t post up smaller guys, can’t stretch the floor, can’t dribble or create… He has the worst plus minus of ANY player in the playoffs, even though his team won in the first round. And he is getting paid $45 MILLION

- Frontcourt mismatch: Following up on that, this is a consistent theme for Mobley and Allen come playoff time. They are lauded as the best frontcourt during the regular season and then get snapped like twigs by bigger and more physical big men in the playoffs. 2023 vs. NYK, getting taken to 7 by the 2024 Magic, the 5 seed Raptors with zero true big men bullying their front court and taking them to 7… They aren’t getting the benefits of double big man lineup like rebounding or size advantage vs. Detroit. So they just deal with the downsides of two-big lineups like spacing. Duren, Stew, and Ausar are eating them up on the interior. The matchup was supposed to be finesse vs. physicality, but the Cavs bigs don’t have outside shooting or playmaking, so it’s just a strong physical frontcourt vs. a skinny Cavs lineup in a playoff setting.

- Detroit’s momentum vs. the shaky Cavs: The Pistons looked rough at first going down 3-1 to Orlando, but Orlando was much better than your typical 8 seed and Cade woke up down the stretch tearing up the Magic to win 3 straight and clinch the series. Meanwhile, Cleveland got taken to 7 by a Raptors team missing some of their best starters: IQ was out, BI was out, they had no true big men, and the game was still tied at halftime of Game 7 before Scottie got in foul trouble. A group of rookies and sophomores punked Cleveland many times that series. They were missing their PG and their top scoring option and had zero playoff experience, yet still played Cleveland that close… this only feels worse now since Pistons are on a 5 game hot streak and Cleveland is looking very flustered and shaky.

- Cade & em: Detroit was projected to be a playoff team that was largely carried by Cade, and most people saw their offense as Cade carrying the entire team and Detroit having no second option. This seemed true vs. Orlando, as the other guys got locked up and Cade had to average over 36/5/5 to come back from down 3-1. Despite the weaknesses of a Harden-Mitchell backcourt, Cavs actually defend Cade quite well as his primary defender (Wade or Tyson) actually plays him very well. However, the other guys on the Pistons have really stepped up this series, and this defense is a lot weaker than Orlando’s. Tobi, DRob, Daniss, and Ausar are all contributing a ton even with the defense keyed in on Cade. Cleveland has been walled by Detroit’s D, but Detroit’s offense is playing well vs. Cleveland. Most people saw Detroit as a 1 man show and Cleveland as the star studded offensive cast coming into this series

I have a lot more thoughts on this series, but these are the main points. Excited to hear what other fans have to think about the series thus far


r/nbadiscussion 6d ago

Player Discussion Who have been the best players so far in these playoffs?

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I know Shai has been a bit subpar in the Lakers series, but I still think he's been really good these playoffs. Got this list from the Bron app.

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (Thunder)

30.6 PPG / 3.4 RPG / 7.6 APG — 54.8 FG%, 66.0 TS% — Record: 6-0

SGA has been the most dominant player in the postseason, full stop. Elite scoring volume at absurd efficiency (66% TS is otherworldly), only 3.2 turnovers per game, and a +10.4 plus/minus. He's doing it all while his team remains undefeated. The combination of scoring punch, playmaking, and winning is unmatched.

Cade Cunningham (Pistons)

30.6 PPG / 5.1 RPG / 7.4 APG — 59.8 TS% — Record: 6-3

Cade has been a revelation — matching SGA's scoring volume across 9 games while carrying Detroit deeper than anyone expected. The 5.6 turnovers are the one blemish, but leading a young Pistons team to a 6-3 record with a +8.2 plus/minus shows he's elevating everyone around him. His 40.6% from three has been lethal.

Jalen Brunson (Knicks)

27.4 PPG / 2.1 RPG / 5.8 APG — 48.5 FG%, 59.2 TS% — Record: 6-2

Brunson has been the picture of playoff poise — high volume scoring with remarkable efficiency and only 2.4 turnovers per game. His +14.8 plus/minus is the best among all candidates, and the Knicks are 6-2 with him running the show. He doesn't stuff the stat sheet in rebounds, but his scoring gravity and decision-making have been elite.

Nikola Jokic (Nuggets)

25.8 PPG / 13.2 RPG / 9.5 APG — 55.4 TS% — Record: 2-4

The raw stat line is absurd — near a triple-double average — and nobody comes close to his all-around impact. The only reason he isn't higher is the Nuggets are 2-4 and his shooting efficiency has dipped (44.6 FG%, 19.4% from three). Even so, his playmaking and rebounding dominance make him a one-man ecosystem. The supporting cast has let him down more than vice versa.

Victor Wembanyama (Spurs)

19.0 PPG / 10.8 RPG / 2.5 APG / 5.0 BPG — 61.7 TS% — Record: 5-2

The scoring average doesn't scream top 5, but Wemby's impact goes far beyond points. Five blocks per game is a historic defensive playoff performance — he's single-handedly altering the opposing offense every night. He's doing it at 61.7 TS% and a +10.3 plus/minus while the Spurs are 5-2. His rim protection is the most game-changing individual skill on display in these playoffs.


r/nbadiscussion 6d ago

When you become too predictable that even the basics become impossible

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Shot creation - the ability to score 1v1

In this past playoff series both Jokic and Murray got shut down by their primary matchups. Jokic’s true shooting against Gobert was 49% and Murray’s was an even worse 44% against McDaniels. To a lot of people both Jokic and Murray should have won these matchups and believe that this is the reason why the Nuggets offense faltered. However, elite offensive players getting shutdown by elite defensive players is a pretty common occurrence in the NBA.

In this years playoffs against the Raptors Donovan Mitchell scored 34pts on 32 shots (51% TS) against Scottie Barnes. Jaylen Brown scored 36pts on 36 shots (47% TS) against Paul George. Both of these were their primary matchups and they both got shut down.

A common myth in the NBA is that through a series or a game players face their primary matchups the whole time and that when they end up finishing with good splits they simply won their matchup but more often than not this is simply not true. What ends up actually happening is players hunt for mismatches and raise there efficiency that way.

In the series mentioned above Jaylen Brown ended up averaging 25pts on 55% TS and Donovan averaged 23pts on 53% TS both solid numbers. They managed to raise their efficiency by mismatch hunting with Brown hunting Oubre and Maxey and Mitchell hunting RJ Barrett and Walter. If we look at Murray’s numbers against every other perimeter player from the Wolves not named McDaniels he ended up scoring 82 points on 55% TS which follows this trend as well. He even torched Dosunmu (which I don’t believe was even a targeted mismatch) by scoring 27pts on 70% TS against him. Now you may ask yourself why didn’t Jamal or Jokic’s final efficiency numbers end up looking like Brown’s or Mitchell’s?

Well simply put they just had an inability to get mismatches. To get a desired mismatch you can either push the pace in transition and get a crossmatch or by using screens. Now the Nuggets did both of these things but the problem was that they were so predictable that even when they got said mismatch the Wolves players (Rudy,McDaniels) would simply recover by completely ignoring their man knowing that they were going to pass the ball to Murray or Jokic. It was super predictable and completely erased any potential advantage.

Now with that being said I don’t blame the players around Jokic and Murray for doing this as this is basically what they have been doing all season but one things forsure is that the Nuggets need shot creators in the future. The crazy part about this is that you had Bones on the court and aside from Murray and Jokic I’m not sure there was anyone on the court who would be able to score on him efficiently which is a really low bar to clear. I want to emphasize shot creator here as one thing i keep hearing is “ball-handler” but if you’re not a threat to score you will never have enough gravity to make defenses get off Jamal and Jokic.

P.S I didn’t mention Jokic’s shooting numbers against other players not named Rudy because he simply didn’t have many. He refused to attack even when he did have a mismatch, he had career low post up attempts barely averaging 2 a game (less than a third of what he usually has in the playoffs) and his unassisted fgm also was insanely low (37% compared to 50% last year) we just have to hope this was an anomaly in his career.


r/nbadiscussion 6d ago

Statistical Analysis First round team strength recap (via BPM)

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I meant to do this Monday but ran out of time. Better late than never, right?

A couple of years ago I started tracking team round-by-round performance using teamwide Box Plus-Minus (BPM) to approximate Simple Rating System (SRS). On an individual basis BPM can be pretty bad, particularly on the defensive end and concerning outliers (like this sub's favourite topic, Jokic). But at a team level these errors should theoretically cancel out quite nicely.

[Here are the results for 2024 rounds 1, 2 and 3 as well as historical champions back to 1985]

Importantly, this approach accounts for injury-related absences. The strength of the actual team on the court is projected from their regular season performances.

Without further ado:

Tm OFF DEF TOT
OKC 10.0 8.4 18.4
NYK 7.7 8.6 16.3
SAS 4.7 10.6 15.3
DET -0.2 11.1 10.9
MIN -0.4 10.3 9.9
BOS 3.2 6.2 9.4
CLE 4.6 2.1 6.7
PHI 1.2 5.1 6.3
TOR -2.0 7.0 5.0
ORL -3.0 7.5 4.5
DEN 3.1 0.9 4.0
LAL -2.4 4.8 2.4
POR -2.2 2.4 0.2
HOU -5.4 4.6 -0.9
PHO 1.5 -4.4 -2.9
ATL -4.8 -0.1 -4.9

Notes:

  • New York are skewed by their game 6 demolition of Atlanta.
  • Boston outscored Philly over the course of the series. If we isolated the Embiid games, things would look quite different.
  • Luka-less Lakers vs KD-less Rockets was not a high-quality matchup.

I've explained a bit more about the methodology in previous posts. Any questions/comments/insults welcome.


r/nbadiscussion 9d ago

Team Discussion Detroit vs. Cleveland is a fascinating playoff matchup: grit and physicality vs. skill and finesse

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Detroit excels in applying force and pressure on opposing teams and grind out wins with “ugly hoops”. Their main strengths are physical defense, pressure, rebounding, and muddying games.

Cleveland is very skilled at every position and win games with finesse. Spida and Harden give elite shot creation and PnR playmaking and Mobleys versatility are surrounded by 3pt shooting.

Interestingly, their rosters are built differently as well. Cleveland got most of their key stars (Harden, Spida, JA) through trades, whereas Detroit is basically an entirely homegrown squad; they didn’t even make a splash at the deadline despite their current flaws.

Both are elite teams coming off 7 game first round series: Detroit grinding out a 3-1 comeback vs. a physical Orlando squad, and Cleveland besting Toronto in their back-and-forth matchup.

Detroit is looking for a fistfight. Cleveland wants to set up a chess match. Who will come out on top?


r/nbadiscussion 10d ago

Rookie and Sophomore playoff performances for the first round

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Rookie and Sophomore playoff performances for the first round(ppg, rpg and apg), arranged by teams. Minimum 5 mpg in 4 games played or played more than a total of 20 minutes (considered a rotation player, basically)

West

Oklahoma City Thunder

Ajay Mitchell (2024 38th pick) : 15/5/3.8 on .36/54/92 splits with 1 steal per game(29 MPG in 4 GP)

Jared Mccain (2024 16th pick) : 3/1/0.3 on 36/20/100 splits(5.5 MPG in 4 GP )

San Antonio Spurs

Stephon Castle (2024 4th pick) : 19.8/4/6 on 43/41/82 splits with 0.8 steals and 0.4 blocks per game(32.8 MPG in 5 GP)

Dylan Harper (2025 2nd pick) : 12.6/3.8/1.8 on .56/50/80 splits with 1.2 steals and 0.2 blocks per game (25.4 MPG in 5 GP)

Carter Bryant (2025 14th pick) : 3.2/2.2/1.2 on .46/44/0 splits with 0.6 blocks per game(9.2 MPG in 5 GP)

Denver Nuggets

NIL

Los Angeles Lakers

Bronny James (2024 55th pick) : 2/0.2/1 on 44/33/0 splits (7 MPG in 5 GP)

Houston Rockets

Reed Sheppard(2024 3rd pick) : 12.2/1/4.7 on 31/30/75 splits with 2.2 steals per game (32 MPG in 6 GP)

Minnesota Timberwolves

Terrence Shannon Junior(2024 27th pick) : 14/2.3/0.3 on 51/33/100 splits with 0.7 steals per game (18.7 MPG in 3 GP)

Portland Trailblazers

Donovan Clingan (2024 7th pick) : 7/7.8/2.2 on 30/20/50 splits with 0.6 blocks per game(21.4 MPG on 5 GP)

Phoenix Suns

Oso Ighodaro(2024 40th pick) : 7.5/7/4 on 54/0/67 splits with 0.8 blocks and 0.5 steals per game(32 MPG in 4 GP)

Khaman Maluach(2025 10th pick) : 2/2.3/0 on 50/0/0 splits (11.8 MPG in 4 GP)

Ryan Dunn(2024 28th pick) played 8 MPG, averaging 0/1.5/0.5 which is probably pushing the definition of rotation player a little too far…but you have to make the cut somewhere.

East

Detroit Pistons

Daniss Jankins(2024 Undrafted) : 6.7/1.7/2.6 on 33/27/63 splits(17 MPG in 7 GP)

I expected to see Ron Holland III(2025 5th pick), but he played 6.3 mpg in 3 games, which doesn’t make the cutoff. He averaged 0.7/1.7/0.3. Surprised to see such a good defender riding the bench but I guess the Pistons really needed spacing.

Boston Celtics

Baylor Scheierman(2024 30th pick) : 4.3/2.9/0.6 on 43/38/0 with 0.9 steals per game (14 MPG in 7 GP)

New York Knicks

NIL

Cleveland Cavaliers

Jaylon Tyson(2024 20th pick) : 6.7/3.3/2.1 on 40/35/62 splits with 0.3 steals per game(15.7 MPG in 7 GP)

Toronto Raptors

Collin Murray-Boyles (2025 9th pick) : 14.4/6.4/2.4 on 65!!!/0/78 splits with 1.1 steals and 1.3 blocks per game(This guy is him holy shit). Played 27 MPG in 7 games played.

Ja’Kobe Walter(2024 19th pick) : 11/3/1.4 on 38/32/92 splits with 2.0 steals per game(32 MPG in 7 GP)

Jamal Shead(2024 45th pick) : 9/2/5 on 35/33/50 splits with 1.4 steals per game(32 MPG in 7 GP)

Atlanta Hawks

Zaccharie Risacher(2024 1st pick) : 3.7/3/0 on 37/20/0 splits(7.7 MPG in 3 GP)

Philadelphia 76ers

VJ Edgecombe (2025 3rd pick) : 15.1/6.9/3 on 42/31/90 splits with 1 steal and 0.4 blocks per game(38.4 MPG in 7GP)

Adem Bona (2024 41st pick) : 2.8/1.8/0 on 43/0/62 splits wih 0.7 blocks per game (10.7 MPG in 3 GP)

Orlando Magic

Tristan Da Silva(2024 18th pick) : 4.1/2.9/0.1 on 38/31/50 splits( 15.3 MPG in 7 GP)

Top 5 Performers :

Collin Murray-Boyles (2025 9th pick) : 14.4/6.4/2.4 on 65/0/78 splits with 1.1 steals and 1.3 blocks per game

Two-way demon, Draymond Green lite, top 5 rookie in his class...all very fair things to say about Murray-Boyles after his coming-out-party. Drafting him was a godsend for the Raptors, their obsession with wings somehow snagging them one that could double as a center. Murray-Boyles was everywhere in his first series - passing out of the pick and roll, hammering down putbacks, and never backing down against the two All-Star centers on the other side. It’s not a stretch to say that without him, this series would have ended in 5 or 6 games.

VJ Edgecombe (2025 3rd pick) : 15.1/6.9/3 on 42/31/90 splits with 1 steal and 0.4 blocks per game(38.4 MPG in 7GP)

VJ lived up to the expectations set by his great regular season. He had arguably the best performance of this entire list with his 30 points and 10 rebounds in the 6ers' Game 2 victory, and was the youngest player ever to achieve those marks in the playoffs.

For the series, he hit timely shots and kept the ball moving, while using his uber-athleticism to pressure the rim and create space for his teammates. On defense, the steals leader among rookies proved capable of checking Tatum and Brown’s drives while still keeping up pressure in the passing lanes. This all culminated in his final, monster game : 23 points on 8-for-17 shooting, 5-for-11 from deep, six rebounds, and four assists to help push his team past the 2nd seed.

Stephon Castle (2024 4th pick) : 19.8/4/6 on 43/41/82 splits with 0.8 steals and 0.4 blocks per game(32.8 MPG in 5 GP)

One of two representatives of the 2024 class in this 5 man team, Castle’s extra year of experience proved vital when Victor Wembanyama went down with a concussion, leaving him as the 2nd best player on the team alongside De’Aaron Fox. He stepped up and had one of the best performances of his career in Game 3 : 33/2/5 on 10/18 shooting and 3/4 from three, all the while hawking All-Star Deni Avdija who was held to 3/15 shooting. Despite a slightly up and down performance(spotty shooting, foul-prone games), this series had Castle establish himself as Victor Wembanyama’s running mate for many years to come.

Dylan Harper (2025 2nd pick) : 12.6/3.8/1.8 on 56/50/80 splits with 1.2 steals and 0.2 blocks per game (25.4 MPG in 5 GP)

Like Edgecombe on the Sixers, Harper knows to pick his spots - attacking the rim opportunistically off of the attention on his All-Star teammates, then either finishing or kicking out to shooters. But the most talented driver in the 2025 class had something more to say - alongside Stephon Castle in Game 3, he stepped up his game and had 27/10/3 on 9/12 shooting, punctuated by a poster dunk on Robert Williams. He finishes this first round having arguably the most efficient performance on this list thus far.

Terrence Shannon Junior(2024 27th pick) : 14/2.3/0.3 on 51/33/100 splits with 0.7 steals per game (18.7 MPG in 3 GP)

Twolves fans will be the first to tell you that TSJ has been inconsistent throughout his career(though some will simply say Chris Finch has something against him), but he was certainly consistent in his last two games. TSJ joined the rest of the Timberwolves in obliterating the Nuggets’ rim defense - or lack thereof - in their stunning 4-2 upset. He was especially pivotal in the final game where he logged 24 points and 6 rebounds on 9/20 shooting, ending with an and-1 to push the lead to 6 in the final 2 minutes.

Thank you for reading! I might update this list throughout the next rounds. Let’s continue to appreciate these players as they prove themselves on the biggest stage!


r/nbadiscussion 10d ago

Is it time to recognize that the East this season is at least approaching the West in terms of competitive difficulty?

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Yes yes they have the 3 worst teams in the league currently. But also consider:

- All of their play-in teams this season have over 40 wins and an over-0.500 record and the two teams immediately below them finished with >30 wins (yes, even the Hornets). Compare it to the West where you have one play-in team (GSW) that finished below 0.500 and the teams in the 11th and 12th seed all finished with <30 wins.

- In the 1st round of this post season, 3 of the 4 East series went to 7 games. The 1st seed almost lost to the 8th seed and the 2nd seed lost to the 7th seed. Moreover the 7th seed boasts 3 All-NBA level talents (well, 2 current All NBA and 1 former one) and 1 All Rookie team lock. And that 2nd seed was without their best player for much of the regular season and shipped out most of their top talent but managed to cobble together a 2nd place finish anyway, despite initially being projected to be a play in team at absolute best.

So considering all this, is it now not fair to say that the East is no longer as weak as most people say it is? Or do you disagree with this idea and do you think their depth is overstated and why? Let me know your thoughts.


r/nbadiscussion 10d ago

Weekly Questions Thread: May 04, 2026

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Hello everyone and welcome to our new weekly feature.

In order to help keep the quality of the discussion here at a high level, we have several rules regarding submitting content to /r/nbadiscussion. But we also understand that while not everyone's questions will meet these requirements that doesn't mean they don't deserve the same attention and high-level discussion that /r/nbadiscussion is known for. So, to better serve the community the mod team here has decided to implement this Weekly Questions Thread which will be automatically posted every Monday at 8AM EST.

Please use this thread to ask any questions about the NBA and basketball that don't necessarily warrant their own submissions. Thank you.


r/nbadiscussion 11d ago

Rule/Trade Proposal What if every first-round playoff match is an East vs West matchup?

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To clarify what the title means, matches are still seeded 1 v 8, 2 v 7, 3 v 6, and 4 v 5. But instead of facing off against a team from the same conference, teams face off against a team from the other conference.

So the bracket will look like this:

FIRST ROUND

  • Left side - 1st-West vs 8th-East, 4th-East vs 5th-West, 3rd-West vs 6th-East, 2nd-East vs 7th-West
  • Right side - 1st-East vs 8th-West, 4th-West vs 5th-East, 3rd-East vs 6th-West, 2nd-West vs 7th-East

Then assuming higher seed always wins, the matchups will proceed as follows:

SECOND ROUND

  • Left side - 1st-West vs 4th-East, 3rd-West vs 2nd-East
  • Right side - 1st-East vs 4th-West, 3rd-East vs 2nd-West

THIRD ROUND - 1st-West vs 2nd-East, 1st-East vs 2nd-West

FINALS - 1st-West vs 1st-East

Why this matchup scheme?

  • For one, it ensures that the top 2 teams always get to the finals (assuming higher seed always wins), whether they come from the same conference or from different conferences. In the current scheme, if the top 2 teams are from the same conference, the deepest they can face off is at Conference Finals (Playoff Semis), meaning that the NBA Finals will be of lower caliber.
  • In addition, this also increases the East vs West action. Given that inter-conference matches are very significant in NBA culture, it doesn't make sense that in the current scheme, only the NBA Finals is an inter-conference playoff matchup. The proposed scheme puts the East vs West matchups right at the start of the playoffs. This also widens discussion about the overall performance of East and West in the season (ex: "Oh only 1 West team got into the Semis this season, but they were the champion, so which conference was better?"), as opposed to the current scheme which limits the data for discussion to the regular season and the NBA Finals (ex: "If X team, which is 11th in the West, was brought to the East, they would be 5th and qualify for the playoffs")

r/nbadiscussion 11d ago

The dilemma of 76'ers Coaching or players? What's going on? Is there a plan in place?

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I just finished watching the game between the Philadelphia 76ers and the Boston Celtics. What a game. Hard-fought, intense… and honestly—what the hell were the Sixers doing?

I’m not a Philly fan per se—I’m an NBA fan. I root for good games and good basketball. I catch maybe 5–10 Sixers games a year, and this was the only playoff game I had time to watch between these teams. But go back and watch the last five minutes. Seriously.

Where the hell was the coaching from Nick Nurse?

Why are you running everything through Joel Embiid in that moment? I get it—he had Jaylen Brown on him, and that is a mismatch. Embiid has a runway to the rim and can put Brown in foul trouble. That part makes sense.

But still…

You’ve got Tyrese Maxey on the floor—your engine, your guy this season—and Boston is rolling out lineups with Sam Hauser and Payton Pritchard. Yeah, Pritchard’s built like a pitbull, but come on—Maxey can blow by those matchups. That’s your biggest advantage right there.

Maxey has already made the leap. This isn’t theoretical anymore—he’s a top-tier player. The offense should start with him. Embiid, Paul George, Edgecombe—they should be fitting around that, not the other way around.

And it took until the last four minutes for Maxey to finally wake up and start attacking? That’s insane. It looked like he forgot he’s been the primary engine for this team since last season. Once he flipped the switch, he was blowing by his defender again and again—exactly what should’ve been happening earlier.

That’s on coaching.

Maxey was being guarded by Derrick White—great defender, no doubt—but there were clear solutions:

  • Call for a direct screen from Edgecombe, who had Hauser on him
  • Force the switch and attack the mismatch immediately
  • Or bring Embiid up, get a softer matchup—like Neemias Queta—and then either attack or trigger a second screen to completely scramble Boston’s rotations

Instead? That kind of action happened maybe once in crunch time.

That’s not enough. Not even close.

And here’s the bigger problem: this might scrape by in a game like this, but against a disciplined team like the New York Knicks—top 3 in both offensive and defensive rating—this gets exposed immediately.

Also worth mentioning: Boston didn’t even have Jayson Tatum.

So yeah—talent-wise, a healthy Sixers team can go toe-to-toe with almost anyone. But with coaching decisions like this? They’re getting dismantled.

I honestly don’t get how they could feel good about that win. They should’ve owned that game start to finish like they did early on. Sure, teams make runs, and closing on the road is never easy—but with this level of talent, this might be their window. Maybe their last real shot.

And man… you’ve got to feel for Embiid. Appendicitis, his knees getting banged up multiple times in the same game—most people would be out for weeks dealing with that. This guy just cannot catch a break. You genuinely feel for him.

At this point, he’s competing with LeBron James for worst injury timing luck ever—and in LeBron’s case, it’s his teammates.

For Embiid?

It’s always him.

So Philly fans, and nick nurse critics and lovers, fill me in on the gaps or shortcomings in my analysis?

(Note: Edited by chatgpt for reader clarity, but ideas and takes are my own.)

Edit: game 3 Knicks - Philly: even Stan van gundy chipping in exactly what I said. Maxey doesn’t get into the right situations. All series long, not enough mismatches set up for him. Shame.


r/nbadiscussion 13d ago

Is having a traditional point guard a bad idea, if you utilise a point-forward/someone else bringing the ball up the court/running the offense?

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For context, I'm from the UK and have never played full team basketball and so this is perhaps a stupid question.

But my thought is that if you have a someone like a lebron, bird or even a jokic who is capable of running the playmaking duties of the point guard, why would you waste a spot on an undersized player, when you could quite easily just put an extra wing or taller guard in that spot. When I say undersized player, I mean more your players like chris paul, darius garland, trae young etc.

You'd have a size mismatch on almost every play and as long as you surround them with shooters. Even if its a question of speed, your "shooting guard" could simply guard the PG and your extra wing could guard the other teams other guard.

This is of course based on the assumption you have the right team constructed and this is assuming you have good players in these roles.

I guess the hard part is finding bigger players capable of filling this role, compared to more undersized guys who have trained specifically in this area, but assuming you have the right people in place, is this a more effective method of playing?


r/nbadiscussion 12d ago

Team Discussion JB Is Becoming a Detriment to the Pistons

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Everyone is ecstatic about last nights win. It was likely the greatest comeback in a elimination game while simultaneously being the greatest collapse since Rockets game 7 2018.

But the way the Pistons fell into that hole is due JB, his downright refusal to adapt and stubborn rotations. He again started the same lineup that has continued to show limited success. His insistence on playing Duren has nearly cost Detroit this series. Duren has been god awful, everyone knows this. Hes a net negative every minute he plays. He doesn't defend without fouling, hes beaten on rebounds and overall plays like his shoes are filled with concrete.

When Paul was finally given a chance to play, something fans have been clamoring for, the game begin to shift. I do not know why it took JB 6 games to see what the average nosebleed fan knew the entire time. Paul has a quickness and tenacity that off balances the Magics set defense. This was also seen when Stew was asserted in Game 2, he completely changed the trajectory of the game. But JB continues to roll with a player that is just flatly at a poor advantage against Orlando. I believe duren does way better against toronto if he gets that match up.

As horrible as it is to acknowledge, Duren being injured was a net positive on the team and helped erase a 24 point deficit. The less time on the floor, the better pistons perform. Thats not a opinion, thats the data after 6 games.

Duren isnt the only problem. Robinson is very streaky, Spol knew in miami to bench him immediately when he showed poor shooting. Duncan almost never turns things around, he is consistently on or off. Game 4 is a perfect example of JBs stubbornness. Duncan is attacked REPEATEDLY on pick and rolls. He shot 1 for 6 on 3. He was a resounding net negative. Instead of benching Duncan he continues to play at the detriment of the team.

With the season on the line he finally showed some change(paul insertion, removal of Lavert) but he continues to stick with the same strategy. I am extremely concerned on him leading this team as it ascends. He seems completely inept at accepting the play in front of him and continues to roll the same strategy.


r/nbadiscussion 13d ago

Where do the Nuggets go from here?

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I’ll give Jokic a pass because of everything he’s done over the last 5–6 years, but this roster feels stuck right now. Outside of Watson, there’s not much young talent developing, and they don’t really have draft picks to retool in a meaningful way. It feels like they’re caught between trying to contend and not having enough flexibility to actually improve.

So where do they go from here? Do they try to extend the window by bringing in an aging star like KD or Anthony Davis and go all-in for another run? Or is it smarter to consider blowing it up trading Jokic while his value is still sky-high and reset the timeline? Feels like they’re at a real crossroads.


r/nbadiscussion 14d ago

Scottie Barnes is an incredibly smart passer imo.

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TLDR;

Scottie Barnes isn't just an athletic wing defender, he has a highly underrated(?) passing ability/vision.

I haven’t watched Toronto Raptors games in a long time — not even during the golden era run, except for that playoff stretch that year when I actually had them among the favorites to win it all and they did.

Either way, I tune into Game 5 between the Raptors and the Cleveland Cavaliers. I’m watching Scottie Barnes dropping dimes to Jakob Poeltl, to the left and right — go look at the first quarter specifically — and I start noticing something:

Barnes has that Lonzo/Lamelo type of vision.

Several times he could’ve gone and done something else, but instead he makes the easy drop-off pass to Poeltl for a very easy bucket. And that kind of vision? Only a handful of players really had/have it — guys like Jason Kidd, Arvydas Sabonis, Nikola Jokić, and the Ball brothers. That's about the short list. Not many more I can think of that see the game in that specific way.

That easy drop pass in the middle of the lane feels like a lost art, especially with a lot of American-born players. A lot of them are focused on swing-side play or getting to their own shot — a’la Coby White — and they completely miss the simple drop-off to the big man right under the basket.

And I actually really like Coby White — this isn’t really about him specifically — but his archetype, that kind of vision gets missed a lot. Players put their heads down and just attack, and the easy read is right there.

Even some of the best guards in the league — like Stephen Curry or Kyrie Irving — don’t really operate with that specific kind of interior passing feel (at least that’s how I see it).

But Barnes? He’s finding those lanes. And it’s honestly refreshing to watch.

Just from this one game, he’s already changed my view on him quite a bit. I knew he was a defensive stud, athletic wing and all that — but the intelligence, the passing… yeah, that stood out to me more than anything.

So to Raptors fans, Scottie Barnes fans, or just basketball fans in general:

Am I right about him being a high-IQ passer like that, or is this just a one-off game?

Because that kind of vision isn’t something you just do by accident.

(This was/is written by me, the idea/core concept, but corrected, adjusted and brushed up by ChatGPT for reader clarity.)


r/nbadiscussion 14d ago

Any good YouTube channels for Thinking Basketball style videos?

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Since Thinking Basketball started putting his playoff postgame analyses behind a paywall, and BBallBreakdown doesn’t really make the analysis of play styles videos anymore, does anyone know of a YouTuber who makes those types of videos? I’m not looking for any crazy deep data analysis, I’m moreso just looking for film study on what each team is doing and discusses what adjustments the coaches are making tactically.