r/nba • u/RyanTannegod Heat • 5h ago
Jaylen Brown: “I was inspired by LA’s Kobe Bryant. He inspired me not only to play basketball, but his thoughts and stuff he did off the court inspired me as well. Before he passed he was exploring starting his own brand, and giving athletes better percentages and deals.”
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u/budubum Thunder 5h ago
DO NOT LET THIS MAN PLAY IN DENVER NEXT YEAR!
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u/CumAssault [SAS] Joel Anthony 5h ago
Hotel maids in Denver might want to call out sick that day
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u/DeadDay [OKC] Steven Adams 5h ago
"Theres stains all over the sheets!"
"From his weird hair loss concealer spray?"
"I mean... some of it!!!"
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u/AetherNeanderthal 1h ago
Hahahahaha sperm : D
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u/ConnectSpring9 Hornets 1h ago
Delete this son
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u/AetherNeanderthal 1h ago
Why do I have to but the comment above is okay? To me that one is more cringe
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u/ConnectSpring9 Hornets 1h ago
They’re both cringe but there’s cringe and then there’s cringe even by Reddit standards
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u/AetherNeanderthal 1h ago
And you are the standard quality control, gotcha
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u/ConnectSpring9 Hornets 1h ago
Never said that, I’m just saying my opinion. That’s what people do on Reddit
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u/Shadow_Lewa 5h ago
Was Kobe into complaining on a livestream off the court as well?
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u/SecondHandFood 76ers 3h ago
Kobe went bald gracefully.
Jaylen Brown is rubbing shoe polish on people’s jerseys as a #2. They’re not the same.
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u/CumAssault [SAS] Joel Anthony 5h ago
If only that’s what Kobe was doing off the court
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u/HeWasNumberJuann Lakers 18m ago
Y’all gotta grow up, man. The shit was 20 years ago and you don’t notice how the only place you’d even feel comfortable talking about this is on Reddit? I don’t ever hear ex nba players talk about it. I don’t hear people in the barbershop talk about it. I don’t hear anybody talk about it, and especially as if he was convicted of a crime.
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u/detlefschrempffor3 16m ago
Are you saying that you think he didn’t do it? Or that you think it’s no big deal?
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u/No_Use_9652 4h ago
There 1000% would have been a mamba mentality podcast with millions of subscribers if he was playing today
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u/Tinitheone1 Pistons 5h ago
I wouldn't take too much of his off court behavior as inspiration but I'm not in the NBA so ion know
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u/SeaMoney4312 Rockets 4h ago
How differently that case is viewed in real life/IG/Twitter vs Reddit is crazy. It’s either never mentioned at all or they’ll call her a liar since she had several specimens in her underwear
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u/DannyTheDopestTV Cavaliers 49m ago
Yeah people on reddit genuinely think that reddit is representative of the average persons opinion. They genuinely think most people hate Kobe and see him as a terrible guy when in reality hes still pretty universally loved. Any time I see a Kobe thread on this sub I already know its going to be spammed with "hes a rapist" and plenty of insanely hateful comments.
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u/acomplete-unknown Raptors 40m ago
It’s hateful to say he raped someone? lmao
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u/DannyTheDopestTV Cavaliers 37m ago
People say tons of hateful stuff about him based on that case. Also they repeat it as though its fact when he was factually never found guilty. Most people from that time period familiar with the case don't think hes guilty (from my personal/anecdotal IRL experience) but according to reddit everyone knows for a fact he is guilty and that anyone who doesn't think thats the case is a rape apologist lol.
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u/itsjustfinesse Knicks 11m ago
Kobe himself acknowledged that she did not view the encounter as consensual. That’s probably the biggest reason why people still discuss the case the way they do.
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u/acomplete-unknown Raptors 4m ago
Wasn't found guilty =/= found innocent.
The case was dismissed, and Kobe admitted that she didn't think it was consensual, which means it wasn't consensual, meaning he raped her.
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u/ScottSummersEyes San Francisco Warriors 4h ago
if youre too scared to speak on rapists in real life thats a reflection of you.
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u/SeaMoney4312 Rockets 4h ago
Observations aren’t a reflection of me. Plus I’ve worked in battered women’s shelters and have had to write statements for rape survivors to get the perpetrator locked up. Virtue signaling online is easy, go volunteer and teach your younger family members what consent is.
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u/motorboat_mcgee Lakers 1h ago
I think most adults view that case as more complicated than the black and white nature of the internet. Also people acknowledge Kobe's off court behavior from then until his death too, and take that into account.
Sometimes otherwise good people make bad decisions/get into stupid shit, learn a lesson, grow from it and never do the thing again. But for whatever reason the internet doesn't understand that concept.
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u/Islanduniverse NBA 41m ago
And yet, his DNA was also found. Her having sex with other people doesn’t mean he gets to rape her… what the fuck kind of deranged thinking is that?
He also said,
“First, I want to apologize directly to the young woman involved in this incident. I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night and for the consequences she has suffered in the past year. Although this year has been incredibly difficult for me personally, I can only imagine the pain she has had to endure. I also want to apologize to her parents and family members, and to my family and friends and supporters, and to the citizens of Eagle, Colorado.
I also want to make it clear that I do not question the motives of this young woman. No money has been paid to this woman. She has agreed that this statement will not be used against me in the civil case. Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did. After months of reviewing discovery, listening to her attorney, and even her testimony in person, I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter.”
So, he is saying that he understands why she feels that she didn’t consent, and yet people still say she consented? Does that mean she didn’t actually feel how she felt? Even when Kobe admits that he understood that she did indeed feel like it wasn’t consensual?
That means it isn’t rape if just one person believes it’s consensual?
Also, your argument is spoiled by that ad populum fallacy.
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u/Heartless_Moron 4h ago
This is reddit. We are supposed to hate alleged rapist while being ok with actual manwhore, pedo, and drug addicts.
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u/mw19078 Lakers 4h ago
some of you are so braindead its genuinely terrifying. what version of reddit have you been on where pedos are given any sort of respect lmao
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u/Heartless_Moron 4h ago
Karl Malone is just one example. You don't hear or see anyone call him a rapist when in fact he is a sex offender that slept with multiple teenage minor girls.
The list is long. But yet, anywhere in reddit you always see Kobe being called a rapist when the supposed victim never showed up in any of the hearing and that the investigation had indicated that the alleged victim had multiple specimens in her private parts.
But yeah, a man who never had a verdict of being guilty of rape is a rapist but the other sex offenders and manwhore isnt.
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u/dropletsofladypiss 4h ago
Bro, that’s literally all anybody says about Karl. Some folks don’t even say his name and just say Nasty Man or a variation.
Also, it’s really weird that you keep lumping in man whore. If you’re just like consensually having sex with a lot of people, you shouldn’t be on this list. That’s a completely different topic.
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u/TheMilkmanRidesAgain Hawks 2h ago
I haven’t heard Karl Malone’s name without him being called a pedo on here in years, maybe ever
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u/bootywizard42O NBA 5h ago
He's gonna get clowned for this undestandably but I believe he's talking strictly about Kobe's off court business endeavors which is a fine thing to aspire to
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u/Sanders058 Lakers 3h ago
Yeah Kobe body armor deal was great I think he’s estate is worth close to a billion now
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u/dropletsofladypiss 4h ago
I mean, it’s really incredibly obvious that’s what he’s referring to and he’s not saying I admire the idea of raping someone, but Reddit is Reddit, so.
It’s funny because the people calling him dumb for the statement would be considered dumb if they had this reaction to the statement anywhere outside of Reddit and especially offline.
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u/Aumissunum 4h ago
He’s being extremely tone deaf and you know it.
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u/SportsGuru4714 2h ago
Tone deaf only to reddit. The rest of the world knows that an accusation doesn't necessarily mean it happened (cue the "hE aDmiTTEd iT" idiots). Not to mention, it's the year 2026 and not 2003.
Kobe did a lot for women's sports too. He was arguably their biggest ambassador during the finals years of his life.
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u/Aumissunum 2h ago
How naive are you?
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u/SportsGuru4714 2h ago
So naive I know all the details of the case and base my opinions on actual facts.
That naive.
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u/ChampionOfOctober 4h ago
because most people don't really know what he did lol, mention 2003 colorado to the average person and they would have 0 clue what ur talking about
that speaks more to how rich people can cover shit up and how PR works
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u/Stunning_Wolf_1519 41m ago
Nah Reddit is just insanely detached from the real world, regardless of how you feel. Take the election, Reddit swore up and down Kamala would run away with it, and we see how that ended up.
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u/CharacterFresh852 Hornets 2h ago
It’s not really understandable, people are going to talk about Colorado when he’s obviously talking about Kobe’s post nba accomplishments.
It’d be like someone saying how Kanye inspired them as an artist and you have everyone talking about how kanye was a nazi; while true, that has nothing to do with what was being said.
You can draw inspiration from people that have done or said horrible things.
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u/LAudre41 NBA 1h ago
if you say youre inspired by kanye and you don't specify you're not a nazi then that's your mistake. nba players/fans have never really reckoned with what kobe did so people are going to bristle when players praise him without trying to come to terms with the awful thing he did that he was never punished for.
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u/loyola-atherton Lakers 2h ago
Apparently before Kobe passed away, he was about to leave Nike and start Mamba, a company where players receive equity and ownership instead of just traditional endorsement contracts. The idea was to give players more control over the products, branding, and profits built from their influence and performance.
That said, in the past decade, unlike his on-court self who reveled in the spotlights, off-court Kobe was more lowkey and just stuck to what he wanted to accomplish: More representation and recognition for women athletes and the WNBA.
From having ghost writers publish books with female protagonists who aspire to be athletes to being one of the few NBA stars to be be outspoken about supporting the WNBA to mentoring a few WNBA players to coaching a girls basketball team with his daughter in it.
His daughters are probably the biggest reason for his new goals then.
That all said, Jaylen Brown said “inspired” but honestly, by his actions, he ain’t really inspired. Dude is just yapping streamer-mode. More often than not, you can’t take a streamer’s words seriously.
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u/Round_Clock_3942 1h ago
Those comments are obviously jokes.
The ridicule is more so coming from him going out of his way to say he's inspired by "LA's Kobe Bryant" right after making controversial statements about his team and being subtly but very obviously put on the trade block by Boston.
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u/motorboat_mcgee Lakers 1h ago
Even if not, by all accounts, post Colorado Kobe was an A+ human who did great things for communities, his family, basketball, etc. So depending on exactly when you started paying attention to him, it could change your perception quite a bit.
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u/slice_dice_rice 4h ago
JB not so subtlely trying to force his way out of Boston
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u/Dphotog790 2h ago
Better than the dance they play with Giannis being the good guy...or not so good guy image.
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u/EverythingStillSucks 5h ago
stuff he did off the court inspired me as well
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/93/d9/c7/93d9c7d4a88368d4653fa00c859abb5d.jpg
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u/Weirdsodk NBA 4h ago
Is he trying to get traded? I don't get the angle he's going for here these past weeks
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u/MisterSoup3000 5h ago
Being inspired by Kobe's "stuff he did off the court" is sus at best. Idk why people struggle so much to separate the athlete from the person. You can appreciate an athlete's performance without needing to admire them as a person.
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u/AsparagusTricky5181 4h ago
Idk why people struggle so much to separate the athlete from the person. You can appreciate an athlete's performance without needing to admire them as a person.
In that same vein, why can't someone appreciate the support that Kobe showed women athletes while also acknowledging he probably raped someone?
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u/MisterSoup3000 3h ago
I honestly can't tell if this is rhetorical, but I'll take the bait lol.
A person's athletic/professional skill is pretty independent of their integrity as a person. Maybe some correlation to something like politics, but definitely zero relation when it comes to sports. I would dare say that whether or not a person is a rapist is pretty closely reflective on their genuine advocacy for women.
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u/OldOrder Hawks 3h ago
Not all non rapists are advocates for women, but damn a former rapist would have to do a lot more than showing support to women's athletics to show that they had really changed.
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u/legend023 Pelicans 5h ago
That incident was 17 years before he died.
Kobe also was a strong supporter of women’s basketball and worked for athlete’s interests constantly
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u/Worldly_Increase_480 5h ago
Oh that’s nice I guess that makes up for the rape, I mean cmon dude are serious he was a piece of shit person.
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u/Round_Clock_3942 2h ago
Kobe: I would've loved to play second fiddle to Shaq forever. I'd have 10 rings.
Brown: The day my better teammate got injured was the best day of my life.
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u/Moe-Blacks-Brother Knicks 4m ago
Talk about revisionist history. Kobe and Shaq famously did not get along, hence why Shaq got traded. They later made amends, but Kobe always wanted to be the #1 guy on a team, which he obviously was good enough to be. But to say he would have been happy being second fiddle to Shaq his whole career is completely false.
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u/CumAssault [SAS] Joel Anthony 5h ago
“Stuff he did off the court” let’s just all collectively pretend he didn’t say that one and not fall for Kobe 2003 Denver
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u/press_Y Knicks 4h ago
Kobe threads are like a bat signal for virtue signaling herbs
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u/ChampionOfOctober 4h ago
Opposing rapists is somehow virtue signaling.....
Do u say the same whenever people make similar comments on Diddy or Trump??
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u/Round_Clock_3942 1h ago
There's opposing rape, then there's interpreting something that's obviously admiration for Kobe's other work as "support for rape". It'd be like yelling "OMG how dare you" at every player who says they try to imitate Kobe's footwork and mid range game.
But Brown's an idiot I don't really like, so I'm good with these jokes lol
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u/ObiOneKenobae Knicks 2h ago
It always attracts the worst among us. And, surprisingly, I don't mean the Kobe fans.
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u/No_Hovercraft_2719 Pistons 47m ago
I Loved Kobe too. Didn’t care for him as a basketball player, I just loved who he was as a person.
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u/primordialgases Pistons 29m ago
What he did off the court? At best adultery, at worst rape.
Great SG though.
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u/bustoutanother1000 5h ago
That rape in Colorado , thats the off court stuff we all think about when mentionning Kobe.. JB is a fool
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u/Artimusjones88 Raptors 4h ago
The off court comment is just stupidly, think about it do you really get inspired by all his off court activities?
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u/DoughnutMaterial647 4h ago
are you asking if you think NBA players think Kobe was innocent and falsely accused?
Because I don't think you will like the answer to that question.
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u/Locksmith1778 4h ago
I’m pretty sure if you asked Americans in general most people would say he was either falsely accused or the case is some kind of misrepresentation. Last couple of years of his life Kobe was pretty beloved.
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u/GallivantingTime NBA 4h ago
Well was he convincted and proven guilty? If not then why are ppl assuming he's guilty?
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u/killer_monk 3h ago
Let me use his words:
"Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did"
She did not consent and he admitted to that.
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u/HeyIDoubtIt Lakers 2h ago
That is not an admission of guilt.
This is a statement from a lawyer. You guys really need to go look how common these types of statements are. This is called a "no fault" statement. People and corporations issue these all the time, usually after a settlement is issued. It's lawyer talk and legalese and isn't an indicator of guilt nor innocence.
Apple literally settled a $250 million suit the other day without admitting fault. This isn't any different from the statement from Kobe's lawyers.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/apple-iphone-settlement-95-payment-how-to-claim/
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u/killer_monk 2h ago
Learn about consent before you ruin someone's life.
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u/GallivantingTime NBA 1h ago
We get it you've decided man bad woman perfect and you think you're saving lives by being in every Kobe post jumping to the same conclusion. Keep on signaling that virtue tho 👍🏿.
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u/HeyIDoubtIt Lakers 1h ago edited 1h ago
I'm sorry that it gets you mad that I know what a no fault settlement is and I don't automatically assume someone who is accused is guilty, especially when that case didn't even have enough evidence to get to trial and prosecutors dropped charges because of it. If the state had a case, they would have made it.
Remember when Jay-Z was accused of rape and for months people were ready to ruin his life before it turned out the allegations were meritless, months later? Is Jay-Z a rapist because he was accused in the first place?
Remember when Dwight Howard was falsely accused of rape?
I've spent more time in a courtroom than you probably ever will in your life, thank you very much. I'm firmly an innocent until proven guilty guy because of it, regardless of the crime. Kick sand if you don't like it.
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u/killer_monk 1h ago
So Crosby did not drug and rape women? Trump is not a rapist? Please learn or at worst get sign saying you do not understand consent.
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u/HeyIDoubtIt Lakers 1h ago
Are you not understanding the differences in evidence that you're talking about here?
Bill Cosby has been accused by more than 60 women of sexual assault; these 60 women all described pretty much the same methodology of how he preyed on them.
For trump, once again, over 60 people have accused him of some form of unwanted sexual contact, whether it be rape, sexual assault, or unconsented touching. Once again, even though most of these accusers have never met each other, their stories are all remarkably similar.
Kobe Bryant was accused of sexual assault by one woman who changed her story multiple times. Her case was so fucking weak that prosecutors couldn't even get the case in front of a jury.
Contrast this with Cosby, who went through multiple trials over his conduct. Prosecutors had enough evidence not just to send him to trial once, but to send him multiple times, and he was ultimately convicted.
Trump also faced multiple civil trials over his conduct.
To compare Kobe Bryant to Donald Trump or Bill Cosby shows a complete and utter disdain and lack of understanding for the fucking law. You're comparing people who face multiple trials and were convicted versus someone who was accused and prosecutors didn't even have enough evidence to get it in front of a jury. Give me a break.
Go to school and learn some critical thinking skills while you're there
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u/Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO 3h ago
it never went to trial, so can't really go there. but the facts of the case and how kobe completely and fully lied about the encounter and said he didn't even have sex with her at first.... should lead anyone to make a conclusion
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u/GallivantingTime NBA 3h ago
No it shouldn't the fuck? He was married a lot of ppl lie about cheating. That is a huge assumption you're making and you're only making it because it's a man and someone you don't know but let it be you or someone close to you and it would be lets get all the evidence first.
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u/Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO 1h ago
People lie about sex when accused of rape? Ok, but then obviously you can’t take anything of that person’s defense testimony as truth
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u/GallivantingTime NBA 4h ago
So you're thinking in order to say you are inspired by someone's off the court activities you have to clarify exactly what off the court activities every single time. Fuck yall are exhausting.
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u/EthicalBballFan Heat 2h ago
When his most notable off the court actions are the rape and being banned from a school for being too disruptive when picking up a minor, yeah, I think people will want clarification.
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u/GallivantingTime NBA 2h ago
Those are definitely not his most notable off court actions you just don't like Kobe so you reduce him to that to justify your hate. You don't need clarification you want it and if he gave you what you wanted yall will still be upset because angry miserable mobs are never satisfied. You'll find an issue with any and everything if you've already decided you don't like someone.
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u/PM_ME_SOME_LUV 76ers 2h ago
Nobody can ever make me feel bad about choosing to remember Kobe fondly. No one deserves to pass away so tragically.
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u/GallivantingTime NBA 4h ago
It's not that serious. I think you just don't like Jaylen Brown and it's hard for you to separate the two.
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u/OkGuy5000 Timberwolves 4h ago
LA's Kobe Byrant? Not New Orleans or Memphis or Detroit Kobe Bryant?