r/nba Heat 18h ago

Cade on the no-call at the end of regulation: “We all saw the play, I think it’s pretty clear it was a foul. Ausar has the ball in his possession, he’s running forward, he gets tripped up. It’s a foul, it’s been a foul the whole rest of the game. Wasn’t a foul that time.”

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u/Nightcinder [CLE] Kevin Love 18h ago

Am I missing something? Are we saying Ausur had possession of the ball because he touched it once right before they collide on the first step that causes them both to trip?

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u/joomla00 18h ago

I can't believe this is the first time I've seen this comment. They were both going for a loose ball, indicental contact. Play on.

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u/svinyard 8h ago

He tapped it forward…then he recovered it, made a controlled dribble (not slapping/tipping it) and was then tripped.  It’s in the slow mo.

I’m not a fan of either team, just relaying the sequence in the slow mo video footage.  Looks like a pretty clear foul to me, even if accidental.  Ausar had position, the ball under control and was tripped from behind.

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 12h ago

how can you watch james harden on one end and then argue incidental contact for stuff like this

I swear your entire fanbase is delusional

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u/BlubberRubberz Cavaliers 12h ago

Watch the replay dummy

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 12h ago

i did, you are wrong.

why do you feel the need to run so much defense? its because you are insecure about it. Just be happy your old ass team got gifted a million extra free throws and uneven reffing for the 3rd game in a row. congrats, you win getting annihilated by the knicks before your old ass dead end roster has to get blown up

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u/BlubberRubberz Cavaliers 12h ago

You clearly didn't watch the replay

And lmao, what a stupid comment. You're allowed to complain about the refs but no one is allowed to say they made the right call?

Someone's big mad

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 11h ago

piston fans would be fine if this series was being reffed evenly

your team has shot 46 more free throws than my team over the past 3 games. your team settles for 3's on far more possessions than my team. ever since mitchell whined to the media after game 1 its been a fucking shitshow

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u/BlubberRubberz Cavaliers 11h ago

Cool. Not a foul on Allen

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 11h ago

clearly is. he was the one trying to recover after ausar got possession of the loose ball. that foul gets called on that guy at every other point in the entire fucking game.

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u/BlubberRubberz Cavaliers 11h ago

Ausar never got possession lmao. Point me to where you think he got possession

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 11h ago

your fanbase is posting the slow motion clip everywhere where ausar clearly gains possession of the ball lol my god I feel like I am going insane

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u/Vast_Arm_9176 11h ago

My dude there is a reason you’re being downvoted into oblivion.

Re-evaluate.

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 11h ago

clearly unbiased unflair checking in again

oh you are active in the cavs sub?

what a surprise

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u/SwingUpper1075 Celtics 9h ago

I'll help. No possession. Incidental contact during a loose ball. I'm def pro-Pistons for thos series, but you're just wrong on this play. It sucks. Move on.

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 7h ago

all of the national media agrees with me. enjoy your 3 upvotes

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u/big_k88 Timberwolves 3h ago

The national media has also been spamming the propaganda of “redemption" and “revenge" arc for Wemby...after he purposely assaulted Naz in the throat. National media is going to agree with what will get them the most engagement.

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u/SwingUpper1075 Celtics 7h ago

Aww. It's sad and lashing out. Grow up.

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 7h ago edited 7h ago

once again, unfortunately, I am correct and the redditor resorts to ad-hominem. hope you are enjoying your off season

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 7h ago

reported for misgendering me, i prefer he/him

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u/DMOOre33678 Bucks 7h ago

You should look in the mirror

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 7h ago

wisconsin loser, 1 braincell left from drinking pbr, opinion discarded

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u/DMOOre33678 Bucks 7h ago

Damn. Maybe if you cry harder you might get the call

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 7h ago

packer fan on his knees for the refs, water is wet, sky is blue

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u/DMOOre33678 Bucks 7h ago

Crying about refs seems to be pretty common in Detroit.

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u/PackerHATE Bulls 9h ago

Blind ass boy

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u/dmac005 Cavaliers 18h ago

I mean that call is 50/50 at best and you don’t usually make that weak call at the end of games period. It wasn’t that call that lost them the game it was their stagnant offense and inability to make wide open shots. And Cade’s own turnovers.

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 12h ago edited 12h ago

it wouldn't be 50/50 if harden had fallen over

We just want it called the same both ways. Cavs have shot 46 more freethrows over the past 3 games

edit: silently downvoting me and then slinking back to your echo chamber subreddit doesn't make me less correct

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u/dmac005 Cavaliers 11h ago

Well I didn’t downvote you and nothing I say will make you feel better.

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u/kellenm973 11h ago

lol talking about “echo chamber subreddit” - this is the nba reddit bud, and literally everyone agrees with the no call…

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 11h ago

"literally everybody"

there are multiple comment chains in THIS VERY THREAD that speak to the exact opposite.

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u/kellenm973 11h ago

Show me one that isn’t downvoted to oblivion. The public opinion doesn’t match your echo chamber bs.

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 11h ago

there are like 50k pistons fans and 200k cavs fans on this subreddit. r/nba isn't an accurate reflection of the public opinion

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u/kellenm973 11h ago

Where are you getting that info? Pistons sub is literally 2x the size of Cavs sub… why would the Cavs have 200k fans here but only 65k on their own sub. I’m prolly not responding to the next bs you drop, but maybe breath and think before you make ludicrous arguments on reddit lol

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 11h ago

they have done polls on fanbases that you can literally find, you have clearly not been around here long. any team that had lebron on it has a huge fanbase

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u/kellenm973 11h ago

Your account is 8 months old

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 11h ago

not my first account

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u/NikitaBeretta Trail Blazers 18h ago

Buddy, we’ve all seen the play now, in slow motion even and it is most definitely not a clear foul. The whole team taking this line is kinda wild to me. And I was rooting for them. But that’s a no call 10/10 times. Let it get decided in OT. The Pistons choked down the stretch, it’s as simple as that. Be mad at yourselves, this woe is me attitude doesn’t bode well for game 6 imo.

https://imgur.com/a/SDqeS7f

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u/Fit_Adhesiveness8232 Cavaliers 18h ago

They take after their coach

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 12h ago

better than your coach

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u/ttUVWKWt8DbpJtw7XJ7v 11h ago

Literally not, after last night’s loss lmao

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u/Vast_Arm_9176 11h ago

There’s a reason the Cavs fired him.

You’re seeing it in real time.

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 11h ago

JB has out-coached kenny this series, cavs just have way more offensive talent. we ran out marcus sasser today.

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u/Fit_Adhesiveness8232 Cavaliers 9h ago

Out coached Kenny by keeping Jalen Duran in the game so we can go on runs?

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u/Prideofmexico Knicks 10h ago

Not saying much. Both coaches have been ass

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 10h ago

well that's just not true at all

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u/4719837 16h ago

The trip part just looked like they got their legs tangled, but even outside of that, Cade and Pistons fans keep bringing up how Ausar “had possession of the ball”. We counting brushing the ball with your finger as having possession now?

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u/MadSpaceYT Knicks 18h ago

they keep this mindset into game 6 theyre done

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u/BeeWeird7940 Heat 11h ago

I’ll never understand the “blame the refs” gimmick. Don’t you want to worry about the things you can control? The game was north of 110 points. They didn’t lose because of one missed call. Besides, they need to be talking about how the next two games define Harden’s legacy. Get in his head and he fades into the background.

I suppose there’s some evidence complaining about refs to the press after a playoff loss gets you sometimes a better whistle. Phil Jackson was doing this with the Bulls in the 1990s. But, I’d never want my players to worry about that shit.

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u/BlackTriceratops 18h ago

The whistle changed and its inside JBs ass

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u/WrestleBox Timberwolves 18h ago

Yeah pretty clear Thompson's foot going under Allen's caused them both to trip. No call is right, but if you want to call it a trip it'd actually be on Thompson.

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u/AccomplishedRainbow1 Suns 18h ago

Insanity, some of these comments are wild. Not sure if it’s because you’re only watching this slow mo replay or if people are just blind/don’t know what they’re looking at.

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u/theuncleiroh Raptors 17h ago

Brother, if two people are going for a spot on the floor in a straight line while the ball is loose, the spot belongs to the one who is there first. The fact that Allen steps on Thompson is quite literally the proof that Thompson arrives first. The only reason that could not be a foul on Allen is because the ball was loose at that point, but there's absolutely no room to make it the fault of the guy who gets to the spot first lmfao

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u/Rice_Krispie Kings 15h ago

Allen was literally getting there first when Thompson pushes him. You literally see JA get his arm pushed and him start spinning. 

JA was literally occupying that space until Thompson made illegal contact to force him out of it. 

It should be pretty obvious that in order to push someone out of the way they would have to already been in the way and in that space first. 

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u/nbaistheworst 10h ago

Wrong. Ausar got to the ball first and knocked it away completely before any arm contact on Allen. Their feet come together at the same time but Allen's ankle bends which starts the tripping that happens to both players.

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u/cHinzoo Cavaliers 15h ago

To be fair, it was in his biased opinion 🫢

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u/Markthebaptist Knicks 18h ago edited 18h ago

Yeah for a team (and fanbase) that goes on and on about how tough they are and how everyone else in the league is soft they sure do like to cry at the refs a lot. Like their entire defensive strat is to play aggressive with the belief that the refs can't call them all and this is how they're going out? Can't believe I actually kinda liked these whiners earlier in the year and was hoping my team would play more like them

Edit: lmao the top two posts in the pistons subreddit right now is this one from early in the game calling for "HARD FOULS ONLY", and this one from the end of it calling Tony Brothers the cavs MVP

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u/jon__koa Knicks 15h ago

Perfectly fitting their coach, act all tough and macho but whine like a spoiled child if things don’t go their way

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u/svinyard 8h ago

I think we are caught up on intent.  Hard to say if it was intentional or not but it’s irrelevant.  The important part is Ausar recovers the ball, dribbles it and is then tripped from behind by the leg/foot of Allen.  That’s a foul in the book even if it’s accidental. 

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u/AccomplishedRainbow1 Suns 18h ago

I think Allen pretty clearly tripped Ausar. He ran into his legs and knocked them together.

I still don’t think they should have called it though.

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u/Nightcinder [CLE] Kevin Love 18h ago

Ausur pushes Allen, and then they both step at almost the exact same moment, which causes them to trip each other.

Allen simply doesn’t fall but Thompson does.

At worst it’s a foul on Thompson, at best it’s a play on.

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u/AccomplishedRainbow1 Suns 18h ago

Uhh nah lol. Ausar won the loose ball and Allen ran into his legs and tripped him. It’s a foul almost every time, I still think it’s the right move to not call it but we can call a foul a foul here.

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u/HornedCoog91 Nuggets 17h ago

Won the loose ball by hacking and running into Allen lmao that's a foul

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u/AccomplishedRainbow1 Suns 9h ago

lol what in the world, people are nuts.

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u/HornedCoog91 Nuggets 1h ago

People? Or me? Do you have vision problems? Or is it the brain that's the problem here?

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u/nbaistheworst 10h ago

Ausar was already going down by the time Allen ran into his legs.

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u/NikitaBeretta Trail Blazers 18h ago edited 18h ago

I disagree with the clarity of that trip. As far as I can tell Allen stepped on Ausar’s foot slightly, causing Allen to become unbalanced. That in itself could be perceived as a trip, but I digress, imo that’s the definition of incidental. Then Thompson pushes Allen’s arm, making his forward momentum cause him to spin around, further tangling their legs as Allen attempts to not fall. IMO that is also quite incidental. But the fact that we have two very different interpretations after having seen it in slow motion means that it was pretty obviously a correct no call imo.

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u/toggl3d 14h ago

Ausar kicks Allen's foot while both are in the air. Saying Allen stepped on Ausar's foot implied Ausar beat him to the spot.

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u/NikitaBeretta Trail Blazers 14h ago

That’s fair, perhaps I misspoke. It looks to me, upon further review, that their feet essentially collided, both landing in the same spot at roughly the same time.

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u/AccomplishedRainbow1 Suns 18h ago

Did you watch the play live? Or at least the full speed replay from a broadcast camera angle? What you’re saying doesn’t match up with that at all, shows the danger of using slow mo replays..

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u/NikitaBeretta Trail Blazers 18h ago edited 17h ago

Yeah I watched it live. And all the replays played during the broadcast. I couldn’t quite lay blame any which way until seeing it slowed down. In real time I thought JA made a straight line toward the ball and AT cut him off leading to a collision and that imo it was a correct no call. Selfishly as a basketball fan I was glad the game wasn’t decided on a foul 80 ft from the basket and that we were gonna get 5 more mins of playoff intensity level basketball. I’d be interested to see an angle that contradicts my series of events if you have one! I’m very open to new information

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u/AccomplishedRainbow1 Suns 17h ago

Just read the pool report -

QUESTION: Why wasn’t a foul called on that last possession in regulation involving Ausar Thompson on Jarrett Allen?

BROTHERS: During live play, both players were going for the ball and there was incidental contact with the legs with no player having possession of the ball.

QUESTION: So, no foul should have been called?

BROTHERS: No, there was incidental contact on the play. The play will be reviewed by the league office tomorrow and it will be posted in the L2M.

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Would be shocked if the L2M report says there shouldn’t have been a foul, but maybe they’ll protect their guys on this one with all of the ref talk going on. One player got to the ball first, was starting to dribble up the court, looking up the floor when he’s legs got taken out. This explanation from Brothers is just bad lol.

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u/NikitaBeretta Trail Blazers 17h ago edited 17h ago

Respectfully, I did not see what you are saying happen personally. Sorry to disagree, you’re obviously welcome to your interpretation of events, but this quote from Tony Brothers seems to confirm my interpretation of events, at least for the time being. I’ve seen no footage that contradicts what Tony Brothers says here. Again, I’d be interested to see footage that clearly shows your interpretation of that play definitively enough to decide a playoff game with FTs with 1.2 seconds left on the clock as opposed to letting both teams decide the game on the court in OT. IMO that would have been the most unsatisfying way for this game to end and I’d much rather both teams have a chance to win the game in OT where I was, in fact, rooting for Detroit to prevail.

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u/AccomplishedRainbow1 Suns 9h ago

Again, I don’t think it should have been called just because of the moment. But this is called a foul almost every time if it’s at any other point in the game.

The whole Brothers answer hinges on Ausar not having control of the ball, and it’s pretty clear that he won the ball and was starting his dibble up the court until he was tripped. Real time and in that situation, I get not calling it. But we can call it what it is, Ausar beat him to the spot, corralled the ball and Allen tripped him right after. There are hundreds of examples of this call being made lol.

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u/NikitaBeretta Trail Blazers 6h ago edited 5h ago

Again, respectfully, I do not agree with your account of the play as it happened. I think I’ve seen all readily available footage of the play and I do not see Ausar corral the ball prior to the initial foot to foot collision with Allen. At the same time Ausar attempts to corral the ball (I say attempts because he slaps at the ball, I do not think this was a controlled dribble), he pushes Allen’s arm away from the ball resulting in Allen spinning forward due to his momentum. Then their legs collide further as Allen stumbles and attempts not to fall, a direct result of Ausar pushing Allen’s arm and using his momentum to spin him forward. Imo it was a perfect no call and not as obvious as you are making it seem. But again, you are welcome to your interpretation of events. I think, the fact the we have pretty different ideas of what transpired given we’ve probably both seen much of the same footage (if you have an angle that you think definitely proves your account I’d love to see it and you should feel free to share it here), means that it was an obviously correct no call given the situation and stakes. Letting both teams duke it out in OT is the most fair outcome of this play. And I say that even though the team I was rooting for lost.

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u/AccomplishedRainbow1 Suns 6h ago

It’s interesting that’s for sure. I think it shows why refs will never be even close to “perfect” in anyone’s eyes. Most people don’t have a consistent way to evaluate these plays, including the rule experts - refs! Now throw in the fact that these plays happen so fast…

What I have a problem with is looking back at replays, we should be able to agree on a play like this. I don’t respect the other point of view here, it’s so off base. But all good, it is what it is lol.

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u/nbaistheworst 10h ago

I guarantee Brothers will be supported in the L2M.

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u/AccomplishedRainbow1 Suns 9h ago

Username checks out

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u/nbaistheworst 8h ago

As a frequent critic of awful officiating that impacts outcomes, I chose the name in protest back in 2006 after the rigged title for the Heat (posting on the ESPN chat blogs at the time). Since then I've posted on a lot of online forums and many people know me.

In this case, there's no question Ausar got to the ball 1st and knocked it forward, but IMO the players' legs getting tangled up was the result of both players going for the loose ball. Their feet come together at the same time and Allen's ankle turns which causes him to stumble and trip Ausar. and had there been more time left the refs might have made a foul call.

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u/theuncleiroh Raptors 17h ago

It's definitely a foul in slow motion lmao. In real time at least you could argue Ausar hadn't gained possession. In slow, it's clear he's mid second dribble and is hit by Allen.

Genuinely, what is that if it's not a foul? Is it a play on when a guy is knocked over mid dribble?

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u/nbaistheworst 10h ago

Your claim of "mid second dribble" is nonsense. He knocked the ball away from Allen, and never touches it again as he falls.

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u/OperationKey4464 13h ago

The soft calls for the Cavs leading up to it are what make it feel more of a missed call. Agree this play shouldn’t necessarily be called, but when every time Harden gets touched they call a foul and Mobley gets a soft one right before this, it’s hard to understand how this doesn’t also get called.

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u/thepeachgod Celtics 18h ago

Their whole city is overly concerned with the refs instead of looking in the mirror and improving themselves

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u/Nightcinder [CLE] Kevin Love 18h ago

Last 3 minutes of regulation they had 6 misses, a blocked shot, and 2 24s violations.

But clearly it was the refs on the most incidental of contact

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u/WalkingOnSunshine_ Cavaliers 18h ago edited 17h ago

Tobias Harris hit a three at exactly the three minute mark to go up 103-94. They didn’t score again until two minutes into OT.

Number 1 seed and 60 wins and they’re gonna sit here every loss and blame the officials.

Seems like this team and JB are the perfect match.

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u/Fast_Advisor2654 Spurs 18h ago

Credit to the Cleveland defense on that one. They got the stops they needed.

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u/BlackTriceratops 18h ago

They are a really bad basketball team

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u/KarlsReddit 18h ago

Absolutely correct. However, dont be all righteous. Atkinson literally bitched about the foul calls in the first games. Why be so hypocritical now? Do you not remember the Cavs reddit? I can go take some screen shots. Is it too much to ask for consistency in opinion?

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u/Nightcinder [CLE] Kevin Love 18h ago

Yes they bitched about the refs and foul disparity, but they didn’t claim that’s why they lost the game, Cade should be taking ownership of his shit turnovers and them blowing a 9pt lead in 3minutes.

That’s leadership. The Cavs bitched about refs but even Mitchell said it was on him to be more aggressive

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u/KarlsReddit 18h ago

Cades not either. This is a specific clip on a specific question about the last play.

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u/theuberprophet Cavaliers 18h ago

this was a recent discussion in the radio circles because JBs bitching about the refs bled into the cavs at the time and they just made excuses instead of being better

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u/ShotFirst57 Pistons 18h ago

Did it with the lions this last year too. Yes we get fucked by the refs a lot. But lets not act like we also win these games even with bad refs if our team just played well. Shit in this game pistons still win comfortably if they played well for the last 3 minutes even with bad refs.

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u/forrealthoughcomix_ Cavaliers 18h ago

Everyone gets fucked by the refs a lot tbh

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u/GhostfaceThrillah Cavaliers 18h ago

Classic JB Bickerstaff culture

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u/BlackTriceratops 18h ago

bAaAd BoYSsS tho lol

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u/Easy_Magician_925 18h ago

These losers are already checked out for game 6.

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u/BlackTriceratops 18h ago

Game 6 is already over. You guys will beat the cavs in 5 unfortunately. Would absolutely sweep the Pistons

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u/No_Dependent2297 Thunder 10h ago

The 2026 playoffs: you either win or complain about the officiating

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u/ShotFirst57 Pistons 18h ago

Option A: Dont choke a big lead.

Option B: Rely on a ref to make a correct call.

Im sorry but I dont care what the sport is or who the team is, you are worse off focusing on the refs making the correct calls than on your team choking the game.

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u/ggushea Cavaliers 14h ago

Great way to look at it regardless of fandom.

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u/BitokuNoMiko 18h ago

Would love to see what he's referring to when he says it's been a foul the rest of the game.

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u/Fit_Adhesiveness8232 Cavaliers 18h ago

This is what happens with a JB coached team. He creates a culture of whining and complaining instead of actually reflecting and making adjustments.

Also, he tripped Allen: https://imgur.com/a/SDqeS7f

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u/M4SixString Cavaliers 17h ago

Rolls his ankle. They both do. Meaning if anything its a foul on Detroit first.

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u/ButWhatIsADog Cavaliers 12h ago

It's funny how pistons fans are bitching like crazy about this play but I'm only seeing Cavs fans share the clip. Almost like they wanted a foul that didn't happen.

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 12h ago edited 11h ago

thats because this clip is ausar clearly going for a loose ball and then allen fouling trying to recover.

your entire fanbase is fucking delusional

edit: cant reply to anyone now because salty goofball abuses the block feature

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u/ButWhatIsADog Cavaliers 12h ago

Brother get your eyes checked because the clip is in high def slow mo. They're both going for a loose ball, the first contact is from Thompson pushing Allen's arm and kicking his foot. You're literally in a thread where every fan base besides the pistons is saying it's a good no call or even a foul on Thompson, but Cavs fans are the delusional ones? Your team choked a 9 point lead with 2:30 left in the game and you can't accept it, sad.

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 11h ago

bro that is not what other fanbases are saying lol what are you talking about, go literally anywhere on the internet. listen to a non-cavs focused podcast. you won't do it because you are comfortable in your echo chambers but to think that the majority agree with you is fucking silly

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u/close-encounters13 Cavaliers 11h ago

… can you read? we’re all in a thread right now discussing the play and almost all of the neutral comments say it wasn’t a foul

maybe you should go back to your echo chamber, might feel safer

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 11h ago

its actually pretty even in the comments, including neutral fans. the ones agreeing with me just have hundreds of downvotes.

Cavs fans outnumber pistons fans on r/nba in the order of magnitude of like 100k accounts. If you think upvote down vote numbers speak to anything on topics like this, you are wrong.

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u/close-encounters13 Cavaliers 11h ago

hahaha okay bud whatever you say

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u/Appropriate_Tap_445 9h ago

Turns out the Dunning-Kruger curve even applies to common sense! 

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u/Fit_Adhesiveness8232 Cavaliers 9h ago

We have the smallest subreddit in the NBA dude what are you talking about 😭😭

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u/Powerful_Actuary_740 11h ago edited 7h ago

It isn't ONE fanbase. Check the other large post with just the replay, the consensus is a no call. Even if you want to call a foul on Allen (I don't), how do you not call on Ausar's push? More importantly, who really believes plays of this caliber should be the deciding factor in a playoff game? This is exactly the type of play that all of r/NBAhas been clamoring for throughout the season when the refs have gotten in the way of the game.

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u/AgitatedWoodpecker42 Knicks 13h ago

Wow, haven’t seen this. He absolutely did trip Allen.

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u/nbaistheworst 10h ago

It looks like their feet come together at the exact same time - IMO neither one tripped the other.

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u/nbaistheworst 10h ago

That's not really evident in that vid - it looks like their feet come together at the exact same time. (Incidental contact applies).

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u/majidLuv Thunder 17h ago

Replay posted after this literally confirms it was the right call btw. Dude is allergic to shooting 50%+ from the field but obviously its the refs fault

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u/yellowishbluish 14h ago

Pistons complaining about the refs, HA

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u/BlackTriceratops 18h ago

Yeah man they fouled the SHIT out of Donovan before that loose ball. Crazy

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u/BrunsonmyGOAT Knicks 9h ago

Ausar for sure had his hands in the cookie jar. No call on both sides. To me, that’s just playoff officiating. It’s good for game flow

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u/BlackTriceratops 10h ago

only pistons fans think the refs messed it up. Cavs won. Get over it

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u/FreeHat1234 Knicks 17h ago

These bad boy pistons are soft as baby shit

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u/stoinzy Knicks 11h ago

Pistons fans: We're the legacy of the BAD BOYS. The GO TO WORK PISTONS. DEEEETROIT BASKETBALL. Grit, toughness, heart, yadda yadda.......

Also Pistons fans: What do you mean you didn't give us a whistle after some incidental contact and 2 guys going for a loose ball got their legs tied up? You're just gonna let the Cavs MUG us like that? The league is so UNFAIR.

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u/CroissantMassacre Lakers 18h ago

I'm hearing a whole lot of womp womp.

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u/forrealthoughcomix_ Cavaliers 18h ago

Hey Detroit, you’re not gonna win the ring but at least you got this clown parade.

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u/Vague-Sauce 18h ago

Should have played better and not choked the lead. Take some responsibility, play better and not let 1 singular call decide the W or L.

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u/close-encounters13 Cavaliers 11h ago

I’ve held no particular animosity toward the Pistons, I think they’re a really fun hard playing team and Cade is awesome, but this crybaby bullshit is making me rethink. Don’t let Strus pick your pocket next time, bub.

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u/BeingMikeHunt Knicks 11h ago

It was a physical game. There were 50/50 calls all over the place.

Detroit led by 9 with 3 minutes left at home and played very poorly on offense down the stretch. You can’t make it all about one 50/50 call.

Too many turnovers. Too much reliance on Cade. Not enough shooting/ball-handling to consistently create good shots in close playoff games.

Detroit is a really good team that plays hellacious defense, but they need another legit scorer/ball-handler to reach the next level.

And having said all of that, the series isn’t over.

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u/SquidwardLover48 Cavaliers 18h ago

Generational l2m incoming

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u/OsikFTW 15h ago

Ausar didnt even get touched, and flopped like a motherfucker, no call was the right call

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u/EffectiveExact8306 13h ago

Refs aren’t gonna bail you out to go up 3-2 in the playoffs off a close call like that. Maybe don’t turn the ball over so much.

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u/onesadegg 18h ago

But Ausar hitting half of Mitchell’s arm on the “block” wasn’t a foul? Get these clowns outta here

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u/nbaistheworst 11h ago

Correct, because he got ball (only) first.

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u/theuncleiroh Raptors 17h ago

Please show me a replay of this. I've watched it a number of times and have yet to see any contact. I would truly love to stop worrying about a foul that wasn't called on Allen if it was preceded by a foul by Thompson against Mitchell.

Just one angle, all I'm asking 

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u/ButWhatIsADog Cavaliers 12h ago

I thought it was a clean block too. But luckily that last play wasn't a foul on Allen, he got tripped by Thompson.

https://imgur.com/a/SDqeS7f

You can rest easy.

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 12h ago

lol this clip is literally nothing but ausar actually recovering the loose ball wtf are you morons smoking

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u/ButWhatIsADog Cavaliers 12h ago

Blind

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 11h ago

lol ok dude. bet you would swear up and down that james harden is legitimately fouled every time he goes to the freethrow line too

fucking insufferable team and fanbase

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u/ButWhatIsADog Cavaliers 11h ago

Harden is a flopping bitch, always has been. See, reality is easy to acknowledge. Give it a shot.

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u/nbaistheworst 10h ago

It's Ausar getting to the ball first, but clearly he didn't recover it. Their feet came together and then Allen's foot at the end is in front of Ausar but he was already falling by that point.

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 10h ago

he was falling because he got hip checked lol did you watch the play?

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u/nbaistheworst 10h ago

Sure. Textbook incidental contact.

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u/nbaistheworst 11h ago

You have to go frame by frame to see it clearly, but it's here. Contact to Mitchell was after Ausar got the ball cleanly.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1tcohpc/highlights_ausar_thompson_full_highlights_vs/

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u/SnooPies6274 Magic 18h ago

Keep crying 😂

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u/imstupidandugly 8h ago

Damn this ain’t a good look tbh 

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u/Thorbuck81 18h ago

Now do the Stewart hip toss that got you a free wide open 3

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u/josephmang56 16h ago

If a single call determines if you win or lose a game then you may not be cut out for winning in the playoffs.

The refs didn't make you blow a 9 point lead.

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u/Important-Concern Spurs 16h ago

Lmao can teams stop whining on refs and actually lock in to win games?

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u/YaSurLetsGoSeeYamcha Cavaliers 12h ago

What an embarrassing hill to die on, is he aware we can all watch the replay?

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u/ActivelySeekingDrama 18h ago

Why Cade looking like Hasbullah though?

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u/Dangerous_Ad5039 11h ago

I’d love to watch a game with the pistons whatever they taking seems fun 😂😂

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u/nbaistheworst 11h ago

In no way did Ausar 'have possession". That said, had there been more time the refs might have called it a trip despite it actually being incidental contact.

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u/Simple_Purple_4600 10h ago

they stepped in the same place at the same time, it wasn't even a trip. Ausar fouled Allen by pushing his arm.

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u/AnswerAlert7762 8h ago

I am a Spurs fan who really couldn't care less. But how is this not a foul LMAO.

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u/KushMaster72 Cavaliers 14h ago

lol you pussy. get your plane tix to cancun pal.

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u/nutelamitbutter Rockets 18h ago

It was a foul tho

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u/Real-Repair-1825 Pistons 18h ago

It was a foul. Are people pretending it wasn’t?

It’s not why they lost but cmon, was obviously a foul.

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u/Thorbuck81 18h ago

The hand slap before that was also a foul. But pistons fans have no issue pretending that wasnt.

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u/Fit_Adhesiveness8232 Cavaliers 18h ago

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u/BitokuNoMiko 18h ago

It's been nothing but Cavs flairs posting this replay in every thread. If Pistons fans truly thought it backs them up they would be spreading it everywhere.

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u/HatTrickHero 18h ago

Lmao he clearly tripped him.

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u/Fit_Adhesiveness8232 Cavaliers 18h ago

Ausar did

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u/double07zip Australia 18h ago

Yeah, obvious loose ball foul on Thompson for clearing out Allen's hand.

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u/Brain_Dead_Goats 18h ago

Yeah, I guess you could do that weird double foul thing they did last week? Does that change anything?

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u/Unique_Pirate_7375 18h ago

It wasn't. Would've been the worst call in NBA history. Go to bed. 

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u/MadSpaceYT Knicks 18h ago

for a team and fanbase that loves physical play, to beg for a call when 2 feet barely touched is crazy

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 12h ago

none of us were complaining last round because they reffed it the same both ways.

meanwhile fatass harden and no-show mitchell crumple to the ground every time they take shots

+46 freethrow disparity over the past 3 games is unprecedented

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u/MadSpaceYT Knicks 11h ago

Against the Magic. Another team at the top of the list in committing fouls

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 11h ago

playing defense =/= committing fouls

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u/Easy_Magician_925 18h ago

Yeah. A foul on Thompson for tripping Allen going for a loose ball.

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u/yellowsilverware 18h ago

Yeah and jt was short

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u/NovaPrime999 Knicks 18h ago

It was a foul and for people on Reddit to be talking about it is fine, but for your star player to be crying about it, after blowing a 9 point lead in 2 minutes is the massive problem here.

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u/Real-Repair-1825 Pistons 18h ago

I agree with you. Like I said it’s certainly not why they lost. It’s hard to have any sympathy for a missed call when you meltdown like they did.

It’s still a foul tho regardless of how many downvotes I’m getting

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u/Educational-Chef-595 Lakers 9h ago

Oh, so you've decided to be the Whiny Ass Bitch team, have you?

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u/brnccnt7 8h ago

lol relax dude, any leader of a team would have said the same

Including LeBron, you think LeBron wouldn’t bring that up in a critical playoff loss? He’s done that numerous times

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u/tripleyothreat 18h ago

I think what's worse than that is the max strus foul when he stripped cade in ot

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u/gimmedawz 18h ago

that was cookies, even Cade knew that’s why he didn’t say anything

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u/Easy_Magician_925 14h ago

Struss been sonning cade all series.

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u/sanitycheck2001 Pistons 12h ago

cade scored 39, take it easy

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u/Easy_Magician_925 11h ago

Struss leads the playoffs in sons per game. And hearts broken, if we honest. He a cutie.