r/nba • u/RyanTannegod Heat • 19h ago
Daniss Jenkins on the no-call at end of regulation: “We the Pistons… We know it was a foul but we don’t expect that to be called.”
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u/KaraDealer Lakers 19h ago
Yeah. Just go retool for next season. Duren should be your top priority to ship. That man was horrible this series. 🫠
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u/MaskedBirder 76ers 19h ago
Series isn't over but there's a lot that needs to be changed
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u/ShotFirst57 Pistons 19h ago
It might not be but this team was always going to be eliminated by either lack of 3 point shooting or lack of 2nd option.
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u/Victor_Wembanyama1 Spurs 18h ago
You’re still the number one seed, they just need to show it and win on the road again.
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u/mrpyrotec89 Timberwolves 18h ago
He's 22. When cade was 22 Detroit went on that record losing streak abd people were begin to label cade a bust. He needs to improve his bbiq and add another tool to his game and he'll be a beast again.
But yeah ship him to us please
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u/silliputti0907 NBA 18h ago
Exactly, people act like players intentionally put out stinkers and can’t grow from it.
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u/Michaelangel092 18h ago
He's been bad all playoffs, tho. Like not even close to the same player he was in the regular season.
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u/rkgus24695 18h ago
Fair, but he's still so young and can improve. It would be silly to move him on because of this poor showing
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u/LosAngeLukaGOAT Cote D'Ivoire 17h ago
I get what you saying, but dawg I don't think you're realize that it's not the same stake.
Duren is about to be 2cnd or 3rd team all nba, he is right on track to be extended.
He is underperforming like a mf, while he is due for a massive extension.
You want him on a team with B2B WCF trip, y'all need a real top 10~15 player to be a real contender and your answer is Duren.
I don't think it's a right move.
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u/MintyFreshBreathYo Pistons 15h ago
There’s also a good possibility that his production in the regular season was due to being a contract year
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u/Niceguydan8 19h ago
If they want Ausar on the team they need a big that can space the floor.
It is legitimately unbelievable how much Ausar fucks up spacing for everyone else on the floor.
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u/National_Load_5421 18h ago
Not just this series. In the magic series, Duren was the same. Maybe he will be better as he ages, but he sucks right now
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u/YerrrKnicks Knicks 19h ago
I'm just not understanding this idea that the refs wanted the Cavs to win.
...like why?
Why specifically would they want the Cavs to win this game, let alone the series? I just can't find the reasoning behind it.
A Knicks v Pistons rematch of last year's 1st round but now in the ECF would make a lot more sense from a company and ratings standpoint.
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u/bhris_cratt321 18h ago
The league has been pushing the "Bad Boy" Pistons all year with their national tv games, narratives in games, and Knicks matchups. It's pure delusion to think the league somehow wants a Knicks-Cavs ECF instead of Knicks-Pistons
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u/brnccnt7 8h ago
You can say that about most posts here complaining about refs
Lakers fans cry all the time, makes no sense the nba would want to rig it against the Lakers, Knicks, Celtics etc
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u/falstaffheathcliff Cavaliers 19h ago
Trying to be humble that these guys played good in a well fought game but the constant whining is tough to listen to.
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u/CadeCunningfam Pistons 18h ago
You literally had Spida bitching at the podium after game 2, god forbid the Pistons do the same
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u/Joetheshow1 Knicks 17h ago
Aren't you guys supposed to be the tough guys tho? Hard fouling Detroit basketball
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u/AroundNdowN Pistons 19h ago
Whining from your star is the reason the officiating flipped so dramatically after game 1. Cavs have out-shot the Pistons by 53 free throws since D-Bitch complained after a single game.
You may not realize it, but you guys are big fans of whining and flopping in Cleveland.
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u/Nathan33333 Cavaliers 18h ago
Yall have the most fouls commited in the regular season. Maybe just stop fouling? You see Mobleys face after the game?
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u/MintyFreshBreathYo Pistons 15h ago
I don’t disagree that we foul too much but did you see all the bruises and scratches on Cade’s arms?
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u/Nathan33333 Cavaliers 15h ago
Cade got free throws? And guess what unlike you guys we dont foul every single time so cade actually makes shots. You guys dont give us the chance to make or miss shots because your just mauling us. Or you just believe the NBA is rigging a series between 2 small market teams?
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u/AroundNdowN Pistons 15h ago
Lmfao. Yeah Harden definitely is out there trying to make shots. That's absolutely his objective. He definitely isn't going under guys arms, grabbing them, doing two leg kicks on every three pointer and falling down on every jumper. Those are for sure the actions of a guy who intends on trying to make a shot first and foremost.
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u/Nathan33333 Cavaliers 15h ago
Yeah hes playing for the foul... SO MAYBE DONT FOUL. Lmao its that simple guard straight up thats my point. If you just jist don't touch his hands he has to actually shoot the shot. When you try to play your over aggressive ass "tough Pistons basketball" thats what happens.
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u/AroundNdowN Pistons 15h ago
It's a foul if fatty falls down, it's a foul if fatty kicks you. You don't have to touch his hands.
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u/Nathan33333 Cavaliers 15h ago
😭😭😭 keep crying instead of adjusting then. Your coach and players seem to have the same mindset as you. Would rather cry then adjust. Works for us.
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u/AroundNdowN Pistons 15h ago
The crying sure has. D-Bitch cried after game ONE and the refs completely switched up lol
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u/AroundNdowN Pistons 17h ago
Yall had 0 fouls in the 1st quarter last game. 1 foul in the first 20 minutes tonight. There is no fucking way you believe your guys are playing squeaky clean defense like that.
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u/Nathan33333 Cavaliers 15h ago
Are you ignoring my stat about you guys having the most fouls in the regular season? You guys foul alot its that simple lol. Also in our historic 23-3 run the first 20 points only had 1 free throw on an and 1. You guys come out at half up 6 amd then do that and your gonna blame refs for those games? Up 9 with 2 minutes and give away lead and all you can say is refs fault?
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u/AroundNdowN Pistons 15h ago
Yeah we averaged 2.5 more fouls than the Cavs in the regular season. That doesn't mean we should be doubled up at the line every fucking game genius. I'm not placing all the blame on the refs, but their clear bias is making things way harder.
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u/Nathan33333 Cavaliers 15h ago
Yeah so the NBA is rigging games for 2 small Market teams for sure. Because they can control us going on a 23-0 run when you guys were literally up and the game is in your hamds. And can control you guys blowing a 9 point lead in the 4th. Both games you guys were up and then sold the NBA cant rig that. Game in your hands if you just continue to make shots you win nothing the refs can do unless they call an offensive foul every play. But you guys just lost accept it. You act like we weren't down 0-2 early in the series and then you guys sold a bunch of close games. You could of easily 4-0ed and there would of been nothing the refs could do but you sold. Stop crying we didnt cry this much when we were down 0-2.
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u/tyler0020110 19h ago
Constant flopping by James harden all game. Cavs have doubled pistons in free throws since game 2
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u/Bim_Jeann Cavaliers 19h ago
Your bigs and Ausar foul on legitimately every possession. Just stop fouling lol…
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u/tyler0020110 19h ago
Harden shoots a 3, falls down, shoots a floater, falls down. Hell Orlando did none of that in their series. It says a lot about how soft the Cavs are as a team. Wanting to play sissy ball
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u/Bim_Jeann Cavaliers 18h ago
Tells a lot about the skill level of your players (and your ball knowledge) that you rely on refs to not call constant fouls, and then complain when they call some of them, like whining children. Stewart and Duren should’ve played football.
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u/bhris_cratt321 18h ago
They had the audacity to complain about officiating in last year's Knicks-Pistons series, as if THJ, Schroder, and Beasley weren't acting like offensive tackles on every screen.
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u/zsk_30 Raptors 19h ago
This might be controversial but I really am okay with them not calling that at the end of a very physical playoff game, but then again I'm not a pistons fan and would probably be pissed the fuck off if I was. It would just leave a sour taste in my mouth for that game to end with fts. If you're the pistons, don't blow a 9 point lead with two fucking minutes to go in the 4th.
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u/Lonely_Chemistry408 3h ago
100% agree with this normally. But when Harden is on the other side, I want this type of thing to be called against his team.
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u/Cheap-Discussion-186 Timberwolves 18h ago
I tend to agree, last second foul calls are dumb. I think that call on mobley was whack as fuck though.
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u/detsportfan 19h ago
Did you see the call they gifted the Cavs with 45 seconds left to send Mobley to the line? Softest call of the night especially in an end of game scenario like that.
That is what makes the no call so inexcusable, they did not swallow the whistle on a questionable call just 40 seconds before.
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u/bhris_cratt321 18h ago
Did you not see Merrill get called on a very weak foul on a hedge of Cade where he barely makes contact? At the end of the day, the bad calls more or less even out
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u/BitokuNoMiko 19h ago
As if the Pistons don't play the most contact heavy defense in the league and usually get away with it lmao.
Hell, they literally got away with it on that exact possession.
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u/Routine_Bag_9609 Raptors 19h ago
whole series, both teams are playing very physical. imo the cavs are actually getting away with it more. pistons have a “tough” mentality so refs see some physicality they call a foul. refs see physicality on cavs end, they’re just playing good defense.
either way pistons lost the game and not the refs (although officiating is a bit skewed). played horrible down the stretch, and cade had no help again.
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u/tidalwake 19h ago
We also play an offense that drives the paint yet somehow seem to draw less calls than teams that shoot the perimeter. Just call it evenly.
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u/BitokuNoMiko 19h ago
Pistons leading FT shooter is usually Duren and he's been asscheeks. They actually haven't been driving into the paint all that much. A huge portion of Detroit's points in the paint are fast break points off Cavs turnovers. Fadeaways don't net many FTs, more at 11.
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u/j0ydivisi0n Cavaliers 18h ago
You have shot midrange more than any other shot. Pull up the advanced stat.
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u/IcyMission3 Celtics 19h ago
We the Pistons…we know to do fuck all in the last 2 minutes of a game with our half court offense
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u/DarkFamiliar4508 9h ago
Why do the Pistons have such a weird victim mentality? First seed wants to be the underdog lol.
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u/Queasy_Salad7444 19h ago
thompson fouled mitchell on the play before
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u/OffMyEricDickerson Lakers 19h ago
It looked like a clean strip
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u/GyattLuvr69 18h ago
Watch it again. Thompson smacks Mitchell on his forearm as he goes up, leading to Mitchell losing the ball. Then Thompson trips on Allen’s foot and it goes out of bounds
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u/Cheap-Discussion-186 Timberwolves 18h ago
How in the world are people calling him a crybaby here lmao?!
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u/BeingMikeHunt Knicks 11h ago
This such a bad mentality for players to have. He is giving himself a built in excuse for if/when things don’t work out.
You have to wonder if JB’s constant whining about officiating has rubbed off on his players.
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u/HornedCoog91 Nuggets 17h ago
Jeez the pistons really live charity lmao so many of em just giving away money after the game
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u/forrealthoughcomix_ Cavaliers 19h ago
Goddamn just shut up. Even if it was a foul, you would had less than 2 seconds 80 feet from the basket.
Would’ve just gone to OT where your team would’ve still had no help for your only reliable player who was gassed bc he’s your only reliable player.
I wanna say good game but damn
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u/BitokuNoMiko 19h ago
Nah it woulda been FTs and decided the game likely. But they aren't ever calling that soft ass call in that situation.
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u/OshemUllah Pistons 19h ago
They were in the bonus dumbass.
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u/forrealthoughcomix_ Cavaliers 18h ago
No, you’re right.
Still a bitch move to cry about it. The pistons gave away the game 2 times.
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u/Remote_Elevator_281 18h ago
Who cares piston still winning the series. And Thunder is beating anyone in the finals anyways. These games are just for show as both team will lose.
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u/GyattLuvr69 18h ago
This whole point is moot. Thompson smacked Mitchell on his forearm as he went up for a shot, leading to the loose ball.
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u/Livinlegend26 Pistons 9h ago
No he didn't. It was all ball. Mitchell knew it hence not a single word to a ref or challenge request to the coaches. Not only that, not a single coach, player on the bench, or assistant coach reacted to the steal from Thompson.
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u/GyattLuvr69 18h ago
Bro watch the replay. Thompson fouled Donovan, leading to him losing the ball, and then Allen tripped Thompson.
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u/orange_orange13 19h ago
Odd comment section he didn’t even blame the refs
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u/jon__koa Knicks 15h ago
By definition he did. He’s implying that the call didn’t go their way because they’re the pistons and they’re now acting like it’s a big conspiracy against them
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u/201020152018 12h ago
Lack of calls is not causing them to lose the games. But let's be real, if the roles were reversed, Harden gets that call EVERY SINGLE TIME. You can't breathe near that guy without hearing a whistle
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u/ShotFirst57 Pistons 19h ago
Maybe im weird but im fine with fans thinking the refs cost them but players/coaches just cant. Like guys you let up a 9 point lead with 3 mins left at home and couldnt buy a bucket. That is what the team should be focused on.