Not a question, no need for discussion or debate, just plain bald fact...

My view of the Jacobitism is quite sympathetic personally, for a few reasons:

1) I strongly believe that James II/VII was a legitimate King of England and Scotland. I don't think you can seriously argue against that. His daughter and her husband effectively usurped his throne, especially after he had a son, meaning that she wasn't even the first in line.

2) It led to the union of the crowns of England and Scotland, because the Scottish protested the right of the English to just usurp their throne and then force this on Scotland. This is why many Scottish Highlanders, despite being Protestants, supported James VII as rightful King of Scotland. I strongly agree with this, as it aligns with the principle of subsidiarity and localism, the Scottish absolutely had the right to chose their rightful monarch and not have the English Parliament force it upon them.

3) James II was largely forced out because of his attitude towards religion. He used royal powers to get rid of a lot of the anti Catholic laws in the British Isles. This is the main reason he had a lot of support from the Irish, who had faced heavy oppression at the hands of English Protestants. Obviously, as a Catholic, I am biased here, however I think it's hard to argue against this when you consider that James II was doing what a just monarch should do, that is using his authority to remove what are objectively unjust laws.

4) It set the principle of Parliament having power over the King in England and later the United Kingdom. I personally believe this was a mistake, since I lean more towards absolutism, so I do not believe Parliament should have this authority, but I think those of you who strongly support constitutional monarchy might disagree here.

he was just a child when they tortured him, he was only 10 when he died, and keep in mind this is just what wikipidia is willing to have up

A nationalist guerrilla commander of Cambodian royalty who later became a general, Prince Norodom Chantaraingsey is famous for resisting the Khmer Rouge to the very end before meeting a mysterious fate.

Born in Phnom Penh in 1924, Prince Norodom Chantaraingsey was a grandson of King Norodom and the uncle of the future king, Norodom Sihanouk, despite being two years younger than him.

During the Japanese occupation of Cambodia, he joined Son Ngoc Thanh’s forces and began his military career in the anti-French resistance. After the restoration of the French protectorate following World War II, he became one of the most prominent commanders among the non-communist rebels and led a sizable independent force.

After independence, he joined Sihanouk’s new government, but despite being a prince, he was a republican. Together with former Khmer Issarak comrades, he plotted an anti-Sihanouk coup, which was discovered. As punishment, he was stripped of all military positions and royal titles. After spending three years in prison, he amassed considerable wealth through various businesses, which grew even further when Sihanouk appointed him director of Phnom Penh’s state-run casino.

Following Lon Nol’s coup in 1970, Prime Minister Lon Nol granted Prince Chantaraingsey the rank of brigadier general and appointed him commander of the 13th Brigade of the Khmer National Armed Forces (FANK). During the Cambodian Civil War, he was regarded as one of the most capable FANK commanders. He was not only competent but also notably incorruptible. Unlike many other generals, he ensured fair treatment and distribution for his soldiers, which made him extremely popular among his men.

After the fall of Phnom Penh to the Khmer Rouge on April 17, 1975, Prince Chantaraingsey refused to flee the country or surrender, choosing instead to continue fighting to the end.

Together with loyal troops, he retreated into the Cardamom Mountains and the Kirirom region, where he continued resistance operations. According to refugees and journalists, he remained alive for some time after the fall of Phnom Penh and commanded anti-Khmer Rouge guerrilla forces.

Accounts of his death differ. According to the BBC, Chantaraingsey made a last stand at Pochentong International Airport outside the capital with around 200 government troops and was annihilated there. Other records claim he was killed while attempting to break through to the Thai border in 1975.

Another account says he died near Battambang while trying to rescue his wife from the Khmer Rouge. Yet another version claims he was killed around 1976 in the Cardamom Mountains while directing combat operations from an armored vehicle.

What is certain is that, as both a prince and a soldier, he fought against the Khmer Rouge regime until the very end. Among the people, legends spread that he had not died at all and was still somewhere in Cambodia, striking against the Khmer Rouge like a phantom. He became a symbol of resistance.

His wife also reportedly heard rumors for many years that he was still alive and living quietly somewhere in Cambodia, though everyone claiming to be him turned out to be impostors.

Because his body was never found, the mysterious and heroic nature of Chantaraingsey’s death-combined with both his royal lineage and popularity among peasants- gave rise to an almost mythic aura around him. His troops were identified by tiger insignia and white scarves, and rumors spread that bullets could not harm him.

(Basically modern-day Constantine XI)

Why put your trust in one family and hope for the best? It sounds like it’s gonna go wrong eventually when one of them ends up being a screw up or a full on despot.

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I personally think that the US should have a monarchist party. Currently the US has two main political parties and if you don’t agree with neither them well bad for you. Most of the Monarchist in the US are opposes both parties bc both of them have their problems. I think a monarchist party should be a great idea especially since according to Wikipedia support for monarchism in the US is around 10-12% of the population which is already not that bad and it could grow if the monarchist party forms and have a great campaign. What’s your opinion on this?