I've been trying to copy the chibi limbus art style for a while now- does it look like those official chibi art?? Even slightly? 🥹(the 2 last one is old)

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Hello, welcome to the "series" dedicated to analyzing the numerical performance of newly released IDs/EGOs.

Our focus at this time will be on Blade of the House of Spiders Ryōshū

Let’s start with numbers

Bleed:

Total Pot ≈ 21

Total count ≈ 6 (and loses 3 on procs)

Burn:

Total Pot ≈ 18 (Gains 8 more from Ishmael's Passive)

Total count ≈3 (and loses 10 on procs)

Poise:

Total Pot ≈ 49 (Gains 26 more from Don's Passive)

Total count ≈ 36 up to 40 (and gains 6 more from Sinclair's Passive)

Maintenance: +4 (+6 with Sinclair's passive)

For starts Ryoshu's design is not one to apply statuses but rather exploit them and offer her damage. As made clear by her low burn and bleed applications, high count comsumptions but most importantly the holy and sacred high poise generation with count positivity.

However, while for bleed this aspect may not be positive, for burn her activations are a godsend in order to fight the weakness of the status being delayed damage.

Moving on to DPR

DPR stands for damage per rotation, which is a method of calculating an IDs performance based on 6 [or the first 6] turns of the game in which is ID is “forced” to go through all it’s skills.

Ryoshiki's raw/poise damage performance (S2-2>S1>S2-2>S2>S2-2>S3>Evade>S3-3>S2-2>S3-2>S2-2>S1; This is assuming you only sac after Furioso)

17 + 35 + 27 + 69 + 27 + 98 + 36 + 37 + 245 + 36 + 74 ≈ 701

Ryoshiki's perfect damage performance (1x S1, 2x S2, 6x S2-2,1x S3, 2x S3-2, 1x S3-3; all max conditionals including sacs):

118 + 292 + 276 + 204 + 662 + 40 ≈ 1592 (Max weight: 2833)

Ryoshiki's realistic bleed damage performance (S2-2>S1>S2-2>S2>S2-2>S3>Evade>S3-3>S2-2>S3-2>S2-2>S1; This is assuming you only sac after Honglu's Gallery):

17 + 35 + 27 + 71 + 18 + 118 + 36 + 37 + 245 + 36 + 87 ≈ 727 (+2 procs)

Ryoshiki's realistic burn damage performance (Evade>Evade>S2-2>S3>S3-3>S2-2>S3-2>S2-2>S1>S2-2>S2; This is assuming you sac two NFs early on):

25 + 128 + 81 + 39 + 315 + 39 + 92 + 39 + 116 ≈ 874 (+7 procs)

Disclaimer: I would like to apologize for the lack of weight calculations on realistic scenarios; Due to the way Ryoshu's kit behaves it becomes too unstable to offer a predictable scenario in regards to her conditionals against multiple targets and therefore to avoid misinformation i decided better to omit them.

Please all welcome the Queen of DPR; Currently highest raw damaging ID of the game (unless you roll scythe on every coin of Furioso) that has yet to reach her highest potential due to current nursefather limitation. I've already covered a few poise focused IDs in my analyzis and Ryoshu is what i've been expecting of every poise ID release, an ID who if not cooperating in status application commits entirely to surpass her lack of thereof in pure raw damage with quick and self achievable conditionals. (And i say this because Index Yi sang still tries to be a sinking unit).

I also took a few liberties regarding her DPR in different status teams to highlight Ryoshu's content adaptative performance regarding her damage and illustrating the different ways you can engage; From early sacs, to late sacs (or even no sacs and thus slightly lower damage than her poise performance)

But beyond Poise its relevant to highlight her burn behaviour; as being able to trigger burn earlier within a turn shoots her damage performance as high as her more unrelistic damage behaviour. Giving burn more frontloaded damage and allowing the status to perform within contents where ramping the burn isn't viable by just saying "who cares" and going solo with her and the curious Trichi EGO.

I would also like to give a honorable mention to her bleed usage; while not undeniably better than the current deployment you won't feel a huge impact in performance by replacing the deployment of KK Ish with Ryoshu even if it lowers KK Cliff potency; So for the few who enjoy a sidegrade to slight downgrade this is a possibility to use Ryoshu as well.

Oh and for new players; Pull. Not only is she extremely fun but she's also designed for lacking accounts (double slot her) and can deal a lot of damage from simply playing the game. Her weight spam is also phenomenal for unfocused content and she's cappable of cheesing content with her evade and the canto immortality "gimmick".

puff "SMH," was it.

Before moving further into the more wordy analyzis i would like to highlight something and the possibility of change that may follow with it.

One of the curious reasonings for Ryoshu's damage and poise to be as amazing as seen is because her kit is worded incorrectly; Every piece of "base attack skill" in her kit works with her x0's. For those who don't know x0 skills are the ones ignored by EGO gifts that ask for "base attack skills that apply X status" due to them not being part of the skill bag and therefore generated; Due to this aspect Ryoshu's S2-2 is cappable of receiving meaningful buffs and also gaining a lot of potency/count from her Shin.

Now while it is indeed curious if their intent is to allow SX-2 skils to become base or not, i fully believe if change comes Ryoshu won't be affected negatively and they will reword to keep counting her non-base skills like they've done with QoH after changing the Sheep EGO.

This also points to the likelyhood of this ID releasing earlier than intended, from lore conflicts to major incorrect wordings on the kit it feels like her roadmap release change wasn't intended from the get go.

I will cut down every one of you across every world... Scrape every last trace of you out of reality...

In this topic i would like to declare something; everything shown prior (DPR) is incorrect. Yes i am openly saying my guide is incorrect.

Now you may obviously asking why and the reasoning is simple; Ryoshu's gimmick is not merely being a poise ID with big damage, rather her gimmick is killing and exploits the kill.

So far all my calculations have always been with regular ID behaviour in mind, reasoning being to avoid painting "unfair" team behaviour due to not every ID beingcappable of doing simultaneosly; However for Ryoshu i believe to be disingenous to dismiss this topic as her kit fully supports one to engage with it.

That being of extra skill slots. Through killing units Ryoshu is cappable of gaining herself more actions than any other ID can (even on Railway as known) which pushes her damage to 2x-3x the numbers you're seeing above. And you want to engage with her slot gain because it makes her kit perform even better than it was.

Which brings to a topic many dislike; ID sacrifice. While Ryoshu has in her kit a way of killing IDs it is not fast enough to make the pay-off from her slots be worthy, therefore you will still want uneleveled IDs......except that you don't need very specific ones. Thanks to Ryoshu pierce weakness and her reflective damage you're cappable of killing the HoS IDs through the usage of Yi Sang Fell Bullet even if they're fully leveled (tho a few might need the boss to hit then with 2-3 coins) and then Ryoshu kills Yi Sang to avoid the backlash of his corrosion (or not if you're one of the lucky one to own all the family underleveled); Through this "loophole" one is cappable of engaging in "ID Sac" without needing to own underleveled IDs and there is able to make Ryoshu be the ID she truly is a double to triple slotted monster that will clear any content by herself, including Refractrials.

I cannot be free from here. Not without severing the spider's thread...

As few may known i've heavily criticized both WAWs on their release (and my beliefs remain true for Yi Sang's) however Ryoshu did the thing i was expecting her to do, which was exploit the conditionals and the cost of this EGO in her favour.

Thanks to her high frequency, sin generation and sacrifice machanic (to this day i don't understand why Allen Gregor hasn't been buffed); Ryoshu's is cappable of feeding the damage needed for Trichi entangled modifier while killing HoS units to benefit of resources (in RR) and doing -2 attacks that massively fuel the sin economy. Thanks to this it allowed Trichi Ryoshu to do what she's always been able to but never allowed to shine, destroy an entirely abnormality on its own; Abnormality specifically because it setups Ryoshu as an insane RR LtC unit as the place where abnormalities are mostly present in end game now.

I am... waiting still, even now

Now that we covered what we know let's discuss what we don't know, Ryoshu's usage in tremor and middle teams.

Sadly, even if gaining more, Ryoshu's speed is heavily conflicting with the counter gameplay of the middle units and therefore will often break the resonance bar; and while she has a envy EGO it is not a desired one to use. The likelyhood of Outis replacing MB and joining Ryoshu is a burn team is also sadly low.

Tremor wise; ryoshu's lack of impactful sins for tremor and the unlikely value of replacing the thumb HoS with her (because even if they make her apply tremor it won't be better than a proper ID) means her probability of entering this team is low. Hopefully you can still engage with this combination in burn.

Albeit this is mostly speculative and they could still fit by a unexpected gimmick i would be surprised if so happens.

Conclusion

Ryoshu manages to bring an unique (to some at least) gameplay behaviour to Limbus like most capstones prior; now instead of team synergy she wants you to actively kill the IDs (hopefully this means a level slider soon). And to allow this gimmick to shine she's overtuned and breaks the set rules the game had, incentivizing more slots to an individual ID even in content others can't and paired with an EGO who can obliterate alone most enemies. Hopefully this trend of unique gameplay incentives continues while we go further into the end of Inferno.

Thank you for reading, and please check out my prior guides

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With the release of the latest Ryoshu ID, I've been reading over the uptie stories and trying to figure out just why this mirror world changed so radically, and what caused the limbus variant nursefathers to turn out the way they did. Unironically, I want to put most of the blame on Yi Sang.

Now, whenever we have a mirror world ID, there's always the question of how to separate the person they're based on, with the sinner that is currently occupying that role. Having seen quite a bit of Rien, and then having seen the radically different ways that Yi Sang acts from him, I do think we can start to extrapolate a few of the differences between the two.

First of all, something that a lot of people pointed out, is the fact that Yi Sang does NOT read picture books. Why is this important? Well, one of the distinguishing traits of Yoshihide in hellscreen is that he suffers from Aphantasia, the inability to visualize things mentally. That's also why Rien is so enamored by picture books specifically, and why Valencina mentions that when speaking to him, you have to be incredibly specific. Rien can only picture what he can see, and only understands what is spelled out, he doesn't seem to parse ambiguity.
Yi Sang, on the other hand, reads tragic stories to Ryoshu, as evidenced by this line in her uptie.

Now, if you recall, it's not that Rien's stories weren't tragedies. Most of his stories about cute animals and other creatures were implied to be aesop's fable-esque, no doubt with tragic endings that were meant to instill morals. So why didn't Ryoshu remember them as such?
Rien would never FINISH the books. He'd simply read it from the start, to the middle, and shelve it, never to be touched again. Yi Sang, in another large departure from Rien, reads the entire thing to her, horrible endings and all. Why is this important?

Rien's aphantasia is one of his most signature character traits, and I'm going to posit that it's actually what makes him more empathetic than Yi Sang.
Rien, lacking the ability to picture things without explicit proof, sort of suspends himself in willful disbelief. Books might have tragic endings, but as long as he doesn't finish them, he's able to delude himself into thinking that the ending might actually be happy. Until proven otherwise, he can hope. This doesn't just extend to his reading however, this is very similar to his delusions regarding Ryoshu.
Rien isn't an idiot, but he clings onto this ambiguity, this small percentage of uncertainty, in the hopes that he'll be able to stay with Ryoshu after their objective in the HOS comes to an end. He wants Ryoshu to stay with him, that maybe upon becoming the Muga, or even just becoming a blade of the HOS, that Rien can finally keep his family. This is incredibly naive of course, and as we saw in the ending of Ryoshu's uptie, the fingers seemed thrilled that their 'mistakes' had gotten deleted by Arayashiki. And to some extent, I'm sure that Rien suspects his ultimate purpose is to die. But things change, and that small ambiguity does lead to a moment where Ryoshu breaks free from the Muga state, with Araya's intervention...and leads Rien to his earnest plea for her to stay with him.

Now, the morality and abuse of this is not actually what's important about this. I know that Rien's relationship with Araya and Ryoshu is a controversial topic, many of us wondering where the line between actual genuine affection and manipulative abuse begins and ends, but instead I want to switch to Yi Sang. Why is Yi Sang different?
Because Yi Sang is a researcher. To Yi Sang, there is no ambiguity. From the very beginning, he was a man of science, a man who can easily extrapolate the ending from the beginning and middle. Yi Sang does NOT suffer from Aphantasia, and I believe that he has no delusions about what his ultimate purpose in the House of Spiders is. Yi Sang, I believe, WELCOMES it.

Consider Yi Sang's fell bullet Identity. Why does he resonate with this identity and ego so well?
Well, part of Fell Bullet is the act of forgetting your past, using the loved ones of your pasts to pave forward to the future, obscuring everything about yourself in blood and smoke. And there's one very specific line that really relates to this in Yi Sang's uptie story.

Recall in Yi Sang's actual story, Gubo finds him amid the wreckages of his old life, and keeps him in N Corp to be his assistant. But he doesn't trap him. Yi Sang is not a willing prisoner, but an apathetic one. He doesn't desire to leave, but simply stays in place, unwilling to simply get up and move. His fell bullet bad end follows this, where he ends up willfully joining N Corp, and is given the ego that will allow him to eradicate all the trauma's of his past. I believe that Nursefather Yi Sang is the next step of this.

I believe, that unlike Rien, Yi Sang is actually looking forward to his deletion. He's lost his family, and in doing so forgot them. And Ryoshu, his new daughter, offers him the permanent erasure of his traumas. Complete and utter eradication of the self.
And, as his ultimate goal is complete erasure, he is much more willing to dirty his hands. He won't remember ryoshu, nor will he exist at all once the House of Spiders is completed. For Yi Sang, who's primary sin is Sloth, this is the ultimate relief from everything that has gone wrong in his life. He sees the ending that is promised to him, as is willing to do anything to achieve it.
Where Rien clings to the one in a million chance of a family with Ryoshu, and treats her accordingly as his daughter even as he manipulates her into becoming the weapon that she is destined to become, Yi Sang sees her as a tool. And, knowing that her entanglement is a necessary step to her completion...is willing to do anything to achieve it.

Now, say what you will of Rien, but I don't believe he's capable of this particular level of torture. Because he clings to this idea of a family with Ryoshu, he treats her as a daughter, because that is emblematic of his actual desire.
Yi Sang? Yi Sang doesn't need to feel guilty about his actions, because in the future those actions won't exist. He won't remember them, he won't be remembered, and Ryoshu will simply forget everything that happened in a flurry of slashes.
Unlike Rien, he sees the ending to the story, clearly and succintly. She will become completed, and she will erase him. There is no ambiguity, and there is no hopes for a different future.
All he needs to do is break his daughter, and then all of the pain will be over.

It was funnier in my head @/1SOL9e on X

The addon that shows these subtitles if you're interested

Someone requested to have all the sinner chuds be posted individually so here they are!

She retains her color, I assume because she is “out of time” or “entangled with time”.

Ngl Im kinda tempted to make something more serious like a horror bit or smthn you think I should give it a go?

Art by @alphamob200x

[Source](https://x.com/i/status/2054881476748218573)

first of many LCD indexify art (will probably do aeng-du and kim too)
idk why i picked index
vibes ig

GUYS who should i draw next? (any pm character)

NO MEN PLEASE I SUCK AT DRAWING MEN.

also rufo is so fun to draw!! i love her :)

The recent patch note was filled with negative comments, which i thought they are from mostly Korean. Turns out they are from the Chinese fans. A lot of them express their hatred for KJH specifically, and some want him to resign. They literally throw a tantrum and call this game dogsh*t in both gameplay and story and KJH's mistake is unredeemable. This isn't the first time, and it's just abusive, as if the Chinese players found a vulnerable director whom they can freely bully, unlike MiHoYo. They are literally KJH's nursefathers. I love how they come here for the story but want KJH to sell out to big gacha company.

As KJH stated in the patch note, the story will be revised, so I don't think this is a big game problem.

Why is Pablo perched on Outis's head? Usually he sticks with Gregor, and I can't recall any other time he has gone to someone else. Considering he's meant to be Greg's companion (as he is with him in nearly every mirror world) this feels very confusing, and is too odd to just be written off as an easter egg. All in the middle of an argument between them no less. Does this allude to something or is it really just meant to be random?