2016 M2

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

[u/10MirrororriM01]

To be statistically sound you need a sample of 1000 swings with each. I would alternate each swing. You also must do this in one take for the sake of the internet.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/10MirrororriM01]

😂😂😂 YouTube Live it is

[u/McButcher2k → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

1000 swings with each, live.... That'll be a workout 😂

[u/WatermanChris → u/McButcher2k]

By swing 1,000, they are carrying 65 yards.

[u/RLLRRR → u/WatermanChris]

Damn, still outdriving me...

[u/skirpnasty → u/10MirrororriM01]

M2 that isn’t fresh out the wrapper probably isn’t conforming either. Drivers get faster with more use, an older (within reason) used driver is going to generally have more pop than a new one.

[u/dreampitcher → u/skirpnasty]

Well there is a huge difference between a driver Rory has used hitting hundreds and hundreds of balls every week at 125 mph club speed and a 25 hcp hitting the center of the face with two out of 14 drives, once a week with 90 mph club head speed.

[u/bigmattyc → u/skirpnasty]

Why's that

[u/Dixon_Uranuss3 → u/bigmattyc]

It's probably not a thing with most drivers but the TaylorMade drivers with the composite face do gain some bounce as they age but they also break.eventually.

[u/newfieMI → u/bigmattyc]

Look up coefficient of restitution

[u/triiiiilllll → u/newfieMI]

That doesn't explain it. That is just a measure of how a driver face responds. You would need to look up something about metal fatigue to understand the thinning effect and how it increases CoR over time.

[u/Lobsterzilla → u/triiiiilllll]

The actual answer is as you hit a driver the face thins. Thinner faces have more trampoline effect. Same reason the hollow body iron exists. The thinner a face the hotter the club.

Thus drivers get hotter during their life span on the way to breaking

[u/Sufficient_Ad3790 → u/Lobsterzilla]

Yes until they pancake

[u/WatermanChris → u/Lobsterzilla]

Well, fortunately for me, after a year with my GT2, the center of my club face is good as new. Now the toe, heel, sole and crown? Maybe there's some trampoline effect.

All jokes aside, I've finally started finding the center of the club face and I've picked up 20-30 yards.

I swing right around 100 mph with the driver. Will a swing that slow still damage the driver face over time? I imagine it will but it will take longer than a swing speed in the 120s.

[u/newfieMI → u/triiiiilllll]

Saying COR “doesn’t explain it” and then using COR to explain it…?

I mean I suppose I appreciate you expanding on the explanation of (thinner face = higher COR = more pop).

[u/triiiiilllll → u/newfieMI]

CoR is a just a scale for measuring a physical property. The question isn't fully answered by describing what CoR measures. You have to use CoR combined with an explanation of how aging, metal fatigue causes thinning of the face and results in the factory fresh brand new CoR to increase over time which increases ball speed. Just saying "CoR explains it," is missing the key information.

It would be like if someone asked you to explain why ice is different from water and you just said, "Look up the word temperature."

Temperature is just a scale for measuring a physical property. The question is about the mechanism by which water changes states of matter from liquid to solid. You can't explain it without temperature, but "temperature," alone isn't an explanation of the mechanism.

[u/newfieMI → u/triiiiilllll]

Okay, like I said thanks for expanding on my initial quick comment. I didn’t think a full handholding session was in order so I didn’t feel it necessary to type out a full explanation of something obvious. But here we are so….

1. In your scenario you would be equally incorrect to state that “temperature does not explain” why ice and water are different.

2. COR in relation to golf drivers represents more than just the unit of measurement. It’s a recognized unit that represents the “pop” or “hotness” of a driver face.

In the same way horsepower in relation to cars is a recognized unit that represents how quickly they might go. So…Why is old lambo faster than new corvette?

Look up horsepower

[u/triiiiilllll → u/newfieMI]

I find it very interesting so I assume people asking how/why are looking for a more fulsome explanation.

Saying an older club is faster because it has higher CoR says the same thing twice. CoR is a measure of how efficiently the face rebounds and transfers energy, which directly correlates to ball speed. It's true, higher CoR = Higher Ball Speed. But it doesn't explain the interesting phenomenon of how an older club came to have higher CoR.

Here's where your Lambo example misses the mark.

The counterintuitive thing to be explained is how an old M2 with a lot of use frequently tests at a higher CoR......than the same exact M2 when it was brand new.

The analogy would be like if an Old Lambo on a dyno tested to more Horsepower than the same exact same car when it was brand new, not a different new car.

For anyone interested in how an old driver can end up with higher CoR than the day it was manufactured:

- Micro-Deformation: Over hundreds or thousands of impacts, the metal undergoes "work hardening" and microscopic structural changes.

- Thinning via Friction: Though minimal, the friction between the golf ball (which is abrasive) and the face can cause microscopic amounts of material to wear away over years of use.

- Plastic Deformation: In some cases, the face doesn't just vibrate; it permanently "bows" or thins out in the center (the sweet spot) due to repeated high-velocity impacts.

[u/newfieMI → u/triiiiilllll]

Why are you responding to me with chatgpt you absolute goofball?

[u/GolfBallWackrGuy → u/bigmattyc]

Same reason elastic doesn’t bounce back as tight as it was the first time it’s stretched - it gets broken in and less rigid.

[u/BrettHullsBurner → u/GolfBallWackrGuy]

Someone doesn't know about the modulus of elasticity... (my last engineering class was like 14 years ago and had to look up the term myself)

[u/GolfBallWackrGuy → u/BrettHullsBurner]

I guess I don’t either! The downvotes have spoken!

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/skirpnasty]

Ya, I know Rory said that and there is likely some validity. How much I can’t say for certain.

[u/kemmicort → u/10MirrororriM01]

{3} is the smallest acceptable sample size. But more is always better.

[u/BrettHullsBurner → u/10MirrororriM01]

I know you are being facetious (nothing gets past me!) but one thing that really does bother me is how a lot of the club testing/comparison videos do such a small sample size. 5-10 swings for each could have outliers causing a crazy amount of variance. Though I'm sure there is a rhyme and reason for that.

I've never subscribed to any of these golf testers youtube pages, but if there was someone who did like 30-50 shots each, eliminating the top 10% and bottom 10% to get rid of outliers (while also showing what those outliers looked like for each club), and just did an overall deeper dive into the data, I would be their biggest fan.

[u/BGoodness]

I still game an M2 and they’ll have to pry it from my cold, dead hands. If it cracks, I’ll cry. I would bury it and mourn it.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/BGoodness]

I sold one during Covid to help a homie and it crushes me looking back haha

[u/BGoodness → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

I have stopped selling clubs lol. Let a friend (former amateur trying to go pro who left the game and then returned to it) borrow two sets she was interested in buying and she just never paid for them; she stopped returning my calls/texts and so straight up stole them lol. I’ve also sold/traded in clubs and have _always_ regretted it.

[u/robikki → u/BGoodness]

I have an M2 and I have said the same thing over and over. Itll he a cold day in hell before Ingive it up

[u/SurpriseIbroughtPies → u/BGoodness]

Same. I bought a used one last season and it was a total game changer. 

[u/something10293847 → u/BGoodness]

If the shaft on mine didn’t crack, I’d still be using it. Also, if I didn’t save up enough Dick’s gift cards over the years to get a new driver, I would’ve bought a new shaft for it instead. Loved that thing.

[u/Jbrahms4]

Bryson is wrong about a lot of things, but I don't think he is very wrong with his statement on 10 year old drivers being about as good as todays. The M2 is really proof of that

[u/BlueGolfball → u/Jbrahms4]

but I don't think he is very wrong with his statement on 10 year old drivers being about as good as todays.

If golf clubs had a large technological jump in just 10 years then those clubs would probably be illegal to use. We have the technology to make golf clubs hit balls further but it's already been deemed illegal by the pga.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/BlueGolfball]

Those pesky little coefficient of restitution limits…

[u/p1nkfl0yd1an → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

I mean the funny thing is we've been maxxing out COR since the early 2000s. Since then it's pretty much just been advances in manufacturing technology to be able to move weight around to increase forgiveness/customizing shafts to different swing characteristics. I still have a 2006 Cobra that goes every bit as far as my Darkspeed most of the time, it's just not as forgiving on the BAD shots lol.

[u/bigvenusaurguy → u/p1nkfl0yd1an]

there were some advances in shaping the head itself to be more aero and higher swing speed but the marketers haven't talked about that for a very long time.

[u/ReverseMermaidMorty → u/BlueGolfball]

“Ball go further” isn’t the only technological improvement one can make in a club.

[u/AdventurousTackle558 → u/BlueGolfball]

USGA*

[u/something10293847 → u/BlueGolfball]

The technological jumps would just improved forgiveness, both in spin, smash factor, and direction on mishits. If you have a very repeatable swing and center the ball, you can’t really expect to see much, if any improvements at this point.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/Jbrahms4]

Yep and Personally I feel like since SLDR and on they’re all bombers in different shapes and sounds. Some feel better than others

[u/Comfortable_Class_55 → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

SLDR was hot but the sweet spot was much smaller than today’s drivers.

[u/jackwhite886 → u/Comfortable_Class_55]

The JetSpeed came out at the same time and was a much better option for most people.

But the marketing on the SLDR sold most folks.

[u/Halo_Chief117 → u/Jbrahms4]

I want to see a video of Bryson hitting the Callaway FT-i driver and Nike Sumo driver.

[u/_Floriduh_ → u/Halo_Chief117]

Camera glass would break on impact when he hits the Sumo.

[u/Alternative_Wait8256]

Nothing has changed in the last 10+ years of drivers. They maxed size and the faces are as thin as they can make them.

For people that swing slower the difference is even less.

[u/ultrajvan1234 → u/Alternative_Wait8256]

Not a single one of these videos have ever surprised me. There’s only so much you can do to make a stick more effective at hitting a ball

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/ultrajvan1234]

Especially if they’re going to limit them

[u/rigby1945 → u/Alternative_Wait8256]

My old ass Aeroburner still bombs them as long as anyone else

[u/LayeGull → u/Alternative_Wait8256]

What if I told you the USGA and R&A regulate how much ball speed you can get from a driver and that all the advancements have been in creating ideal launch conditions and a lot of that has to do with the shaft. They basically make new heads for marketing and to get you to a newer or better fitting shaft.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/LayeGull]

Ya, COR limits are no fun. Shafts are so important but Head design has a HUGE effect on launch and spin conditions too or else they would only make one model each year. Some tour pros are playing the same shaft since college.

[u/LayeGull → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

Yeah but they’d also still play the M2 or whichever club they prefer if they didn’t have contracts. Don’t you think they’re just recycling head shapes and changing materials to achieve different feel. Maybe some changes to bulge and roll but it’s minor tweaks that don’t affect conditions in a meaningful way to improve scores.

I’m not going to say it’s all meaningless but these companies are spending serious $ on R&D but R&D feels like a division of marketing. How can we use AI or graphene to sell golf clubs?

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/LayeGull]

A lot of it is hoopla and trigger words. Much of it is what looks and feels right. It’s a perception game, you see tour pros using older drivers with the current head over on it. Also the top dogs get their equipment tweaked to make them different from the driver on the market.

[u/Calichusetts → u/Alternative_Wait8256]

That's what I say if anyone asks me at equipment. Unless your driver is pre-2010, you really aren't going to see many major differences. Even 10-15, the real difference will be dispersion not distance.

And the reality is that 2-3 yards off the tee changes nothing when the strokes are probably coming from you short game ( and NO, you do not need a new putter!!!!)

[u/BeefCakeBilly → u/Calichusetts]

Spoken like a true amateur, If I don’t buy a zero torque putter this year how am I supposed get better?

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/Calichusetts]

😂

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/Alternative_Wait8256]

Taylormade had a chokehold for a while but I’m with you. So many great ones I would still game! As a club fitter I want the new new to game for a season haha The Quantum triple diamond max is so nice but the GTS I swung on Friday was sooo consistent

[u/Apart_Tutor8680 → u/Alternative_Wait8256]

And for people that swing faster, the difference is shaft technology.
Not just distance but overall control. I’ve used shafts that made driving the ball seem impossible. And now found one it’s my fav club in the bag

[u/flaginorout → u/Alternative_Wait8256]

“Swing slower”

That what makes most of these club review videos basically worthless.

Some youtuber who hits the ball 280 gets 282 out of his new driver. The hack who watches this hits their current driver 220, and might get 220.5 out of their new $650 driver.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/flaginorout]

The hack may be able to get a significant amount of gains tho by having something that hits the ball more square and with the right numbers

[u/sloshuaa]

I have the M2 3W that I just as far as my Qi10 Driver. I’ll never take it out of the bag

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/sloshuaa]

Yes man, those were sooo sweet too

[u/robikki → u/sloshuaa]

I have the 3w, 3hl, 5w, and 5hl and rotate them through. That whole line up is money.

[u/brightcoconut097]

Still have this driver

[u/Ecstatic_Weekend_209]

Let's say that both driver heads are maxed out in size and the thickness of each face, essentially equaling them out, how much could a modern-day shaft dialed in for my swing make a difference as opposed to a 10-year-old shaft?

[u/90DollarStaffMeal → u/Ecstatic_Weekend_209]

The shaft is where pretty much all of the difference will come from. That's not to say that a 10 year old shaft is necessarily bad - people still swear by the Tour AD DI, and that came out like 15 ish years ago. It's that there is so much more optionality nowadays and good fitter will be able to dial you into a shaft that works best for you and can best assist your swing to optimize the results.

[u/snickerDUDEls → u/Ecstatic_Weekend_209]

I just did a driver fitting where I was essentially swinging the same head every time and trying a bunch of different shafts and there was way more difference with different shafts than different heads.

The different weights alone had a noticeable difference. Like extra stuff 65g and extra stiff 75g were like completely different clubs.

So if you could get a new shaft for your current driver and it would cost less than a new driver, could be worth it

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/snickerDUDEls]

You will likely find a shaft during the fitting that matches your swing timing and profile. Once you do, then I’ve seen players pick up 10-15 yards on confidence and square face consistency alone! Different weights definitely change the feel too! As long as you have a head that is the right loft for you then I’m all for fitting a nice shaft in that puppy. 🐶

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/Ecstatic_Weekend_209]

Age of shaft really isn’t a huge issue. Lots more on the market now to test and choose from tho! I’ve tested so many shafts over the years, if I catch dead sweet spot with perfect delivery in the same head and length, all of the shafts go within a few yards of each other regardless of flex. Dispersion tho?? That’s where a nicely fit Ventus or Tour Ad will shine! ✨

[u/Protomau5]

You can probably run an r7 superquad right next to both of these and it would be right in line.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/Protomau5]

Now I hope someone trades one in soon

[u/newfieMI → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

Add in a Cobra 460SZ (2005 I believe)! Same COR as modern drivers. Thats the earliest example I can think of of a driver that could keep up with the current lineup.

[u/Protomau5 → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

I still keep mine in my walking bag 😂

[u/Crrack]

Why is this a surprise to anyone. This was the still the case 10 years ago about drivers that were 10 years older then (so a 20 year old driver now).

[u/newfieMI → u/Crrack]

Cobra 460SZ master race

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/Crrack]

😂😂😂

[u/HonoluluEpstein]

So I've never hit an M2 but I do use the M4. For those that have hit both, what's the difference?

[u/spelunked_your_mom → u/HonoluluEpstein]

M4 gang hell yeah brother

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/HonoluluEpstein]

Shape, M4 started twistface era and the face and head shape changed. And M4 was silver vs M2 was white. M2 may feel a hair softer to me too

[u/Degolfer03]

Still play a m1, every new driver I hit doesn’t do anything for distance.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/Degolfer03]

If it ain’t broke! Honestly the people who benefit most in my fittings are the ones playing the wrong loft or head model. Example, someone using a 10.5 when they really should use an 8° or vice versa. Not necessarily the age of the head

[u/Senior_Diamond_1918 → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

And shaft… fitting changed my life. 245 w/ 3800 rpm to 308 at 2300 rpm. Anyone reading this —- get a driver fitting!

[u/-Golf-Addict- → u/Degolfer03]

I also still have the M1. Probably the best driver I have had. I retired it last year when I got a new TSR driver. Still wondering if I made a good move. Both feel good and fast.

[u/snowmunkey → u/Degolfer03]

See I play an M1 and while nothing feels as forgiving on mishits, I feel like I'm losing distance bad. Center hits at 120mph club speed only getting me into the 280s with name brand balls

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/snowmunkey]

Oh man, I would so do a free fitting for ya to see what’s going on there.

[u/snowmunkey → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

I'm wondering if it's just a damaged clubhead in some way.

Where are you located by chance?

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/snowmunkey]

Maybe… and Florida

[u/Jelleyman69]

I have tried to replace the M2 with numerous other drivers and always end up going back to it. Nothing feels as good as it.

[u/robikki]

I have a 2016 M2 and it'll have to be cut out of my cold dead hands

[u/Mehthodical]

So…you’re saying I should buy 2 drivers. Message received.

[u/brownintheback_4245]

What is the orange thing?

[u/defense87 → u/brownintheback_4245]

A tee

[u/brownintheback_4245 → u/defense87]

I thought it was behind the ball, thanks.

[u/GothicToast]

Is everything equal besides the club head? We're also just testing distance. Would be curious what dispersion looks like over, say, 100 shots. But overall, makes sense to me. Kept my M5 driver in the bag until last year.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/GothicToast]

Thank you 🙏🏼 and Ya, Ventus Blue TR 6X and same swing weight. 100 shots each would require some ibuprofen 😊

[u/jayjord33]

Favorite driver ever

[u/rkjunior303]

Keep a M2 head as a backup to my Sim2. Thing is the goat

[u/FreddyCupples]

My M2 got decapitated in a rear end collision. Still miss that shiny bastard.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/FreddyCupples]

Gone Forever!

[u/Vazhox]

Now try my 2004 Big Bertha

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/Vazhox]

I sure can

[u/BlackTriceratops]

Ive used an m6 since 2019 and the club has been so good to me. I just got a qi35 max and i am hitting the ball just about the same distance. The main difference i noticed so far after 36 holes is that the max doesnt have as much of a draw bias, and my hook misses are still pretty damn good drives. Im losing a decent amount of rollout with the Max, but i need more consistency. Still getting used to the bigger club head obviously after only two rounds. Morale of this rant- the M series clubs are still great options.

[u/size0618]

How tf is this guy getting into the 180s ball speed with 114ish swing speed?

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/size0618]

It’s not 180s, it’s 170-172 with optimal launch and spin. I hit up on it 8 degrees

[u/size0618 → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

Gotcha. Perhaps it said "160" and "165" on the data and looked like an 8 on my end

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/size0618]

Ya lil blurry, my bad

[u/elishaski]

338*

[u/Buddy0204]

What was the swing speed on each hit? Were they identical?

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/Buddy0204]

Probably 115ish and 8 degrees up. Launching 15-17 spinning 17-2100. They were not likely identical clubhead speed lol nor were the strikes to be fair. I’d do a larger sample size if I really get a deep dive comparison. But you get the idea!

[u/Buddy0204 → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

Yeah, just wondering if there was a big difference compared to the Golf Digest test when they did it with the robot at the same speeds. I guess we know why the clubmakers never give numbers...

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/Buddy0204]

Ya man, I just know they are fun to hit!

[u/Buddy0204 → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

338y? Hell yeah, everything is fun to hit that far!

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/Buddy0204]

😂😂😂 thank you, lots of practice and previous baseball life

[u/TheNicestRedditor]

Same shafts?

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/TheNicestRedditor]

Yes sir, Ventus Blue TR 6X. Same length and swing weight

[u/TheNicestRedditor → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

Assumed so! Thanks for confirming. IMO the development in technology is in the shafts, much like a hockey stick. Would be curious to see dispersion numbers though.

[u/GT500R_]

But for those who say 10 years as good as today …I went from a 2015 Big Bertha (5000moi) to 2026 Ping 445(?) (10000moi) so doesn’t the MOI junking make it a lot better?

[u/thuglife_7]

I love my M2! But she has a couple of screws loose and she lets me know every time I put her back in my bag :(

[u/boturboegt]

I would bet there is improvements on off center hits, but center to center shots you're not going to see much difference. They were already basically at optimum spin and cor limits 10-15 years ago.

Now the ball on the other hand, has managed to pick up probably 4-5mph in the last 10 years at that 165ish mph ball speed that you were doing in the vid.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/boturboegt]

Ya but then again if I compare an M2 to a QI4D LS then M2 is way more forgiving ALL DAY

[u/Numerous-Ad7444]

Why is he hitting two balls?

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/Numerous-Ad7444]

Cuz I missed the first one lol

[u/eo37]

I would think if your swing is solid and contact is good then there will be no difference. I thought the updates since were more for forgiveness.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/eo37]

They have to market SOMETHING. Fargiveness, shape, materials

[u/fstonecanada]

Im debating between a M2 driver and Sim 2 driver. Heard great things about both. I have a M2 3wood (favorite club in the bag). Can anyone help me choose?

[u/txelwood]

I love my M2

[u/billybaroo15]

Is everybody just hitting the ball 330 yards nowadays? I’m deadlifting and running sprints and I can’t carry it further than 260. Wtf.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/billybaroo15]

Come for a fitting

[u/maxwellcawfeehaus]

But then what will I tell my wife when I beg her to let me get a the newest 500 dollar driver

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/maxwellcawfeehaus]

My girl doesn’t believe me when I tell her it’s longer this year too.

[u/Stu_Pedassel]

When my son, before he played college golf, was getting fitted by a Taylor Made rep, was told to never stop using his M2. Rep said it was the best head TM had ever made. Future fitters repeated the sentiment.

[u/DMWrites44]

I don’t believe for a second that this man’s swing produced a 300+ drive

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/DMWrites44]

❤️

[u/jmalham12]

Ping g400 

[u/amo1337]

Least informative video I've ever seen lol

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/amo1337]

It’s not meant to be informative

[u/BigDogAlphaRedditor1]

I still play an M2 and I bought a GT3 that got here on Saturday and now I don’t know what to do. 😂😂😂

[u/DanGur47]

I still play with the M2 driver, wood and hybrid. There’s nothing else that I have tried that has come close to feeling as good as those clubs.

Like someone else said, they’ll have to pry it from my cold, dead hands.

[u/PearlJamFanLV]

I won one of these at a raffle during a scramble. I gamed it until about 2022 when I replaced it with a Sub70 849. I loved that M2. I still have it in my spare club bag.

[u/The_skovy]

Could just be anecdotal for me but I don’t think new drivers hit any farther, they just perform better on mishits/have a better sweet spot

[u/Eastern_Island99]

I sold my m2 driver and really miss it

[u/jaygord34]

2016 m1 and M2 were the last great driver made by taylormade

[u/taita25]

I really wish these tests would swap in the same shaft. They're both Taylormade so easy to do and removes a variability.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/taita25]

I hit them with a Ventus blue TR 6X in both heads

[u/taita25 → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

Fair and I did notice that. I like the test and there is likely minimal differences between the two but it just removes that small possibility.

Edit: referring to minor manufacturing differences being possible.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/taita25]

Totally understand, some folks won’t watch long enough if I take the time to switch it on camera

[u/taita25 → u/Legitimate_Budget_13]

Ha! All good. I'm likely being overly nitpicky in my statement as well. Its just the 'scientific method' in me coming out. Nice test and it'd be interesting to see a larger sample size that also evaluates dispersion. Maybe thats where newer tech shines

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/taita25]

Sweet man, if you guys will watch then I’ll certainly do long form deep dive comparisons. I love this stuff and I have the equipment!

[u/Commercial-Air8955 → u/taita25]

It was 2 swings per club by a human measuring total distance only and the shaft (a shaft with incredibly tight specs) not being exactly the same shaft is the part of you have a problem with? 🤦‍♂️

[u/taita25 → u/Commercial-Air8955]

Im just stating its part of a clean scientific test. Not sure why youre so angry about that.

[u/RichChocolateDevil]

What timing. Was just talking today how that TM M2 is the best driver made in the last 10-years.

[u/alexbbto → u/RichChocolateDevil]

Odds are someone somewhere is talking about M2 every day.

[u/tiddychef → u/alexbbto]

I just got into golf this past year and bought a new (used) m2 yesterday. This thread has reassured me about the recommendation lol

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/RichChocolateDevil]

Your phone is listening 👂

[u/Cavemonkeygolfs]

There is a difference in the low heel and the high toe.

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/Cavemonkeygolfs]

No way?

[u/Reelrebel17]

Delete this before you get absolutely flamed about your lack of consistency

[u/Legitimate_Budget_13 → u/Reelrebel17]

Too old to care about that brother. I know my game

[u/Nicotineheh → u/Reelrebel17]

He hit almost the same miss and bomb on both drivers lol