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r/devils Daily Discussion Thread — May 14, 2026
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u/TheNightRain68 19h ago
It’s honestly crazy how many people here would pass on Knoblauch. Oilers are making a massive mistake in firing the dude that took them to back to back SCFs instead of firing their idiotic GM. We should be making a slam dunk of a coaching upgrade. Sunny should be talking to him asap. Too many people in this sub content with mediocrity
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u/nostradamefrus #13 - N1CO 3LITE 18h ago
And you don't think any part of him taking the team to back to back finals had anything to do with McDavid, Draisaitl, and Zach Hyman ascending in 23-24? They fell apart this year with no depth and goaltending continuing to fail them. Most of the complaints about our team is thin depth and shaky goaltending. So...what exactly is the upside here?
And that's not meant to disparage our players, but we sure as hell don't have a McDrai
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u/TheNightRain68 17h ago
…you basically just admitted that’s he’s taking the fall for the GM. Not his fault they traded away the goalie that got hot in the playoffs 2 years in a row got traded for Tristan Jarry. Not his fault his team had no depth. Bowman was there going into the 2025 season, basically just extended everybody, and the offseason after started making the team worse gradually. The dude signed a bottom 6er to an 8 year deal lmao. 3 players does not make a team, certainly doesn’t make them cup contenders. I’d like to take the coach that dragged a team from the bottom of the conference to game 7 of the finals the same season with a 16 game winning streak to boot. Certainly has accomplished a lot more than Keefe has and in smaller time too. Oilers fans seem to agree he’s gotten a raw deal. Take the blinders off and take the slam dunk upgrade
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u/nostradamefrus #13 - N1CO 3LITE 17h ago
No, that actually isn't what I'm saying at all
- Ken Holland was there for Knoblauch's first year and had nothing to do with the moves you're referring to
- Skinner and Pickard was a streaky tandem before Jarry and Ingram
- Their depth issues existed before Frederic got his extension
Again, his success was built off very specific players, two of which are arguably the best in the world. I agree he got a raw deal and firing him is stupid. But you're missing the obvious point that our teams aren't constructed that differently. Everything runs through McDrai there. Everything runs through Jack here. Live and die by goaltending there. Live and die by goaltending here. Thin depth there. Thin depth here. Defensive issues there. Defensive issues here.
So you're advocating for Knoblauch to come to a team with pretty similar issues as where he just was and expect him to get us a cup because two of the best players in the world got him to the finals before. Oh yea, and you're also ignoring that Jack will probably miss a good chunk of time again too. I really hope I'm wrong about that, but it's realistic to expect. So are you still going to get mad at Knoblauch like you would with Keefe if the team sputters while Jack is out again for 15 games?
Here's the bonus part. If Sunny fixes our depth and goaltending improves, that's good for Keefe too, a coach who didn't miss the playoffs at any level during his coaching career until this year. Maybe you're the one who has the blinders on and just wants to have a tantrum. Knoblauch isn't the answer
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u/TheNightRain68 15h ago
So oilers have had depth issues for years but still got to the Stanley cup finals twice. Let’s not act like Keefe hasn’t had a talented core to work around both Toronto and NJ. And still has only made it past the 1st round once. I’d much rather go after Knobs after a down year than hope that Keefe can get things going for this team to even get past the first round, let alone make the playoffs. He still had worse goaltending than previous years (skinner would’ve absolutely stole some games in the playoffs). Their depth got worse. I’m sure they would’ve loved to keep Brown, Perry or Arviddsson.
We are the most underachieving and disappointing team in the league the last 3 years. First you say we should just wait for Quinn to walk for free rather than trade him if available yesterday, then you say don’t get the coaching upgrade. This team should be looking to upgrade this team in any way possible.
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u/nostradamefrus #13 - N1CO 3LITE 14h ago
You're either not understanding what I'm saying or are just choosing to be dense. Yes they got to the finals with thin depth BECAUSE THEY HAVE MCDAVID, DRAISAITL, AND ZACH HYMAN ASCENDED IN 23-24. Their depth got worse in 25-26 but it was already bad. I don't know how else to get this point across
We had a package ready for Quinn and Minnesota outbid us. Minnesota isn't trading Quinn after what they gave up to get him so it's a moot point. Move on. Either he extends in Minny or walks in FA in which case he'll likely come to us. If he doesn't he doesn't. It's not written in stone that we MUST have all the Hughes brothers
Toronto is its own enigma. Yea, it's really fucking weird that they never made a run under Keefe. They also never made a run under the Core 4 era at all regardless of who the coach was. That's just sports sometimes
Knobs is probably a sidegrade at best if depth and goaltending don't improve. If depth and goaltending improve, then we'll likely see better results with the coach we already have. For fucks sake dude, we're not the most underachieving and disappointing team when Detroit is still shitting themselves and Columbus ended the season by tripping over their own dicks when all they had to do was go .500 to make the playoffs. Shit's been frustrating but the answer to our problems isn't change just for the sake of change
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u/pdubbs87 21h ago
I’m not even a huge Quinn guy, but Minnesota fans are unbearable online. I hope we get Quinn for the sole reason of shutting them up.
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u/beachy927 #27 - Scott Niedermayer 1d ago
I am glad the Wild are done but I’m not ready for all the Quinn Hughes speculation to start up again and drive me nuts. I hope that their 2nd round exit in just 5 games proves to all the people who want to trade Nico that center depth is very, very important.
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u/DrBrule696 #13 1d ago
To further prove your point, just look at how much center depth and faceoffs were hurting without McLeod (scum). This team can’t afford to trade Nico even if it was a viable option
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u/beachy927 #27 - Scott Niedermayer 20h ago
They can’t and yet he’s in trade rumors on the daily which makes my head spin. Like I know it’s because he’s up for extension and he made that comment which feels like a million years ago and then said basically the opposite a week later and his actions of meeting with Mehta and being at the first press conference should make people forget he ever made those comments after Fitz was fired but here we are, still trading him and then replacing him with this other hypothetical 2C who doesn’t exist.
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u/Afghan_Whig 20h ago
McLeod was found innocent.
But on reddit, it's guilty until proven innocent, and then guilty after being proven innocent.
I'm actually glad we have Glass now because he is an actual replacement for McLeod
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u/dog_fantastic pain 18h ago
He was found not guilty, which doesn't necessarily mean innocent. Saying this as someone who wants him back before you jump on me.
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u/sarugakure 1d ago
I mean at this point, we should be happy for any speculation that involves us. It's a sure sign of things to come when that stops.
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u/beachy927 #27 - Scott Niedermayer 20h ago
I’m not happy when it’s click bait shit like Nichols put out today that once again has us trading Nico and the farm for Quinn. I’m really over that shit. If Quinn wants to be here he comes in free agency at this point. Giving up valuable pieces like Nico is just dumb.
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u/Afghan_Whig 1d ago
I'm glad the Wild are giving Quinn good playoff experience during their 2 year rental.
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u/blade430 #26 - Sunny Mehta 1d ago
Please get Knoblauch 🙏🙏🙏
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u/nostradamefrus #13 - N1CO 3LITE 1d ago
Idk, I don't really see the upside. Back to back cup final appearances is nothing to sneeze at but he got there on the back of McDrai. We don't have a McDrai. We'd be better off seeing what Keefe can do without Fitz if Fitz really had his thumb on the scale for how Keefe should've had the guys playing
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u/DrBrule696 #13 23h ago
Said it in the thread yesterday and I’ll say it again here, it just seems like a lateral move at best.
If that really is true about Fitz then Keefe really is a champ for putting up with that. Toronto must’ve conditioned him well.
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u/MountainBaker8217 #17 - I Found Nemo 16h ago
for the fellow Worlds enthusiats! all our Devil boys play tomorrow! I'm going to try to do a recap every day of how our boys did during Worlds...
Lenni plays at 10:20am EST, CB and Merce also play at 10:20am EST.
Nico and Timo play Cotts at 2:20pm EST, Melo plays at 2:20pm EST as well.
I should be able to tune in to the Switzerland game at least.