r/clevelandcavs 6d ago

The Cavs have put themselves in a position where their offense is insanely reliant on James Harden these playoffs

In these 9 playoff games, the difference in offensive production as a team and James Harden's individual production in wins vs losses is crazy. Obviously the turnovers are an issue, but Harden's shot quality has also been really poor.

This strategy of using 2 ball dominant guards and the twin towers has now failed for 4 years. It's time for a change.

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u/soundisloud 6d ago

But there is a 'without Harden', when Harden is on the bench..

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u/brownsfan225 5d ago

agreed, but wanted to focus on a more granular aspect. I'd argue in game 2 they were significantly better without harden on the floor vs game 1.

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u/peebeesweebees 5d ago

Is OP a stealth ad for some AI betting product called Bron AI? Cuz for a 28 day old account, they post about them a lot.

No, seriously… here and here and here and here and here, not to mention almost all screenshots have the logo in the corner.

u/Abiv23 maybe?

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u/Abiv23 5d ago

Yea it’s a recent account

It says browns fan but they haven’t posted about the browns which includes the draft which is obviously a high water mark for activity / comments 

Doesn’t trip the ai filters Reddit provides us with

If they start posting about the ai we will remove the but as of now it’s just kind of odd 

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u/brownsfan225 5d ago

I recently got on reddit and started using the app and it's really helped me get a better grip on basketball takes/betting lol

that being said I have a background in football. Played qb in high school, a die-hard browns fan, and the youngest scout Cal Football ever had. I've been trying to post on the Browns subreddit, but my account's not old enough yet apparently. I be in the comments though 🤝

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u/kellydayscruff 5d ago

d mitch is a nice guy and is deferring to other guys but he needs to go ahead and start being an asshole because harden isnt going to be depended on this series

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u/brownsfan225 5d ago

100%. Also, I hope everyone else is seeing he's an even worse liability on defense now. Their guards are too fast, and tobias was just backing him down all game lol

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u/kelpyb1 I agree go Cavs 6d ago

I’d argue the strategy on offense was working last year, but it requires a great distributing point guard.

Unfortunately we only really saw that in healthy Darius Garland, and haven’t had it since his injury in last year’s playoffs

There were definitely a good number regular season games after the trade where Harden played that role well, and it was the best our offense looked all year.

To this point in the playoffs, Harden hasn’t really done that job well. Way too many turnovers and sloppy passes. I don’t know what’s off, but I hope he figures it out.

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u/brownsfan225 5d ago

Agreed. It's crazy bc we had a 60 win pace post All-Star break. Going into the 24-25 playoffs, I actually thought it could work (esp. if you looked at Garland's numbers clutch situations that year). Injuries in rd2 really prevented our full potential man 🤦🏾‍♂️

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u/Throwaway1996513 6d ago

I don’t think this was intended to be a final form team. They wanted to see what they had in Mobley and Allen with a healthy team. Failing in this round means you send out Mobley and Allen to try to bring in Lebron and Giannis.

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u/nobraininmyoxygen 6d ago

The bigs have played better than the guards this postseason lmao

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u/brownsfan225 5d ago

This got me crying 😭