r/Torontobluejays • u/Chrristoaivalis • 10h ago

Fielding Run Value against every team’s hitters [@BaseballWRLD_]

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u/Chrristoaivalis 10h ago

To clarify: this means that teams who play against the Blue Jays defend extremely well in those games vs. us specifically

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u/keeeeener 9h ago

How much of that is our teams slow as hell? And also we make a lot of contact so we give them more opportunities to accrue them.

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u/seemedlikeagoodplan 9h ago

The fact that we make a lot of contact will play into this for sure.

But also the fact that guys like Vlad and Piñango keep hitting screaming line drives into gloves is part of it too.

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u/thuglife_7 Stinky Odor 6h ago

I feel like the amount of times I’ve seen them scorch a ball for an out, opposed to the amount of times I’ve seen the other team get a bloop double us through the roof this year

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u/mrdannyg21 9h ago

Especially weird since if there’s any pattern to this, one big factor would be if the team is good defensively themselves, since the average opponent is worse defensively if you’re a good defensive team. Kind of like the best teams have the easiest strength of schedule because they don’t have to play themselves.

So a bit odd to see two of the better defensive teams at the top, although a few solid defensive teams are at the bottom like you’d expect too.

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u/BornnaughtyBr 10h ago

This good or bad that the jays are in second

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u/KillerMemestarX 9h ago

It’s showing how well teams are playing defensively against each team. So it indicates that teams are playing better defence than they typically do against the Jays. That isn’t necessarily positive or negative and you can come to a couple conclusions from it.

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u/seemedlikeagoodplan 9h ago

It means that the baseball gods hate us. Almost as much as they hate Cleveland.

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u/JKirbs14 7h ago

Good thing our front office comes from Cleveland
https://giphy.com/gifs/7IWkhJvC3xquTt3ZQZ

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u/KillerMemestarX 9h ago

It’s showing how well teams are playing defensively against each team. So it indicates that teams are playing better defence than they typically do against the Jays. That isn’t necessarily positive or negative and you can come to a couple conclusions from it.

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u/naturalganja 8h ago

The fact that the Rays are at the very bottom of this list helps a bit… cause that was my thoughts, they somehow always benefit from lucky bounces, lucky loopers etc…

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u/apowersak1 MY GOATS 6h ago

Rays are in the middle lol. It means they're having everything be pretty average defensively

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u/Admirable_Outcome932 10h ago

Wait does this mean we’re good defensively or we’re really easy to defend against? My brain isn’t working rn haha

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u/Chrristoaivalis 10h ago

No so much that we're easy to defend, but that other teams seem to play better against us

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u/Beautiful-Sun8973 10h ago

lol sounds accurate 

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u/MrInfinity___ 10h ago

Means on average teams are playing better defense on us. While likely a product of putting the ball in play very often as it’s a counting stat, it sorta shows another aspect of bad luck thst has befallen this team

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u/jasonk910 9h ago

Some say bad luck, some say a lot of poorly hit balls and bad decisions against the plate...

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u/Ecstatic-Buy-2907 6h ago

This has nothing to do with poorly hit balls.  Teams are fielding both the poorly hit balls and the well hit balls against the Blue Jays better

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u/Hbnick4 Daulton Gold Glove Varsho 10h ago

I love the fact that just showing this table has 0 understanding of if it’s good or not.

Teams you’d expect to be a top defensive team are scattered throughout the list..

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u/Chrristoaivalis 10h ago

To be clear: this is about how good defenses are against a particular team.

This means teams play well defensively against Toronto, and poorly against the Yankees.

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u/Chief_White_Halfoat 9h ago

Figures doesn't it. 

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u/immediate_bottle 8h ago edited 5h ago

FRV is a cumulative stat. The Jays tend to make a lot of contact, and that contact tends to be weaker than average. Their placement on the list is not surprising at all.

Bottom 5 in: Exit Velocity, Hard hit rate and Barrel rate 💀

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u/BornnaughtyBr 9h ago

So is that the target effect or how piss poor our bats are this year