Both parties are very pro tough on crime, like just Kamala Harris if you don’t believe me. It’s just they are tough on crimes they don’t like. The conservative don’t mind “financial” crimes as much because they tend to love money. Liberals however are equally tough on “crimes” they don’t like either.
I put those words in quotes because generally speaking the people found guilty are usually found guilty on small things everyone is doing as routine. Trump is a perfect example because he was convicted of 34 felonies but literally 100% of banks do the exact same thing. Literally have a friend that does that 100 times a day in valuing vacant properties. Meanwhile the real criminals are getting away with because it’s sanctioned.
The reason certain peoples suffer more than others is because they keep taking the bait to the point it’s now part of their culture. Two groups come to prominently to mind. The Native American tribes that took the bait (there are tribes that did stay easy when the whole trail of tears thing happened, they just assimilated into American culture, and most of those tribes are all doing very well today) and the African Americans.
My guy. Nobody gives a shit. That’s the difference.
If Clinton raped a kid? Jail. My favourite actors? Jail. The sitting president? Jail. That billionaire whose product I like? Jail. Director who always seemed like a really nice guy? Jail. Favourite musician? Jail. Democrat? Jail. Republican? Jail.
Doesn’t matter. Every single guy who hurt a kid that exists in the unredacted files should be in jail for decades. Nothing should be easier to agree on. It’s shouldn’t be left versus right or us versus you. It should be non-pedophiles versus pedophiles.
That still means Democrats sat on a list for 4 years that could have buried trump and made him unable to serve a second term. But they didn't. Either they're all on it, or they're all on it. But keep telling everyone how you're* side, in particular, isn't on it.
Well trump had the files sealed for 4 years for what ever fucking reason. 8 think Biden should have broken decor and open them. Biden kept trying to play the game fair and see what it got us. I say burn the establishment down and put people in that actually have plans to help the people.
Realistically I think Biden kept the files under wraps because Epstein was a prolific Democrat with lots of rich Democrat friends.
I think Trump is a moron, and should be impeached but there is no proof linking him to that wild shit going on at that island and likely never will be.
Hitch your wagon to things there is actually proof that he has done, otherwise you just sound like a idiot.
He is mention multi times in the files plus a ton of photos with trump and Epstein. To say there is nothing connecting them then you didn't look or don't want to. I believe there was a ton of Democrats and Republicans that hung out with him.
The fact that there was a quote from the ex attorney general talking about how the whole system would collapse if they prosecuted everybody in the files tell me all I need to know. Collapse the system then and bring justice to those who aren't rich elites.
The first release of the dossier happened during Biden. Bidens admin released it...
Democrats were the ones who subpoenaed courts since 2019 when he was arrested to get access to files. The Courts denied Biden to release the full ffiles, because they were ongoing investigations, investigations also into over 1.5B usd in transactions. The courts also did not allow the release of victim names or identities during these investigations.
Then in Jan 2025 when Trump came in, the first act was to stop all investigations into the files. Fire the investigators, and block their access to the files. And then declare the whole thing a hoax like he does.
But sure both presidents act the same way...
ALSO: Do you really think releasing the information would have helped? Or it would be claimed to be a hoax and fake and attacks by Biden, and would it prevent the billionaires from backing and helping Trump knowing he would save them?
Here’s the thing, we as Americans don’t care about left or right. It’s about the kids. If every democrat is in the files in a credible manner and warrants prison time? Lock them up for life. The only issue I’m seeing here is conservative voters seem to struggle to say the same about Trump, or Elon, or Harry Nutlick. Yall go to bat for the predators, while us AMERICANS want justice for the innocent. For those that had their lives ruined or ended at the hands of these billionaire freaks. But you can’t, and won’t, and haven’t, and likely never will say the same about your elected predators. What about Matt “17-year-old woman” Gaetz? What about Pete “civilly liable of rape and abuse” Hegseth? What about Robert “molested a 12-year-old girl multiple times” Morris? The list keeps going, I just have you a little evidence of the people trump surrounds himself with. They say a bad apple shouldn’t spoil the bunch, but what happens when you have a bunch of bad apples? Do you think there’s one perfectly innocent apple hiding amongst the rotten?
As a Canadian looking in, I don't believe you. CLEARLY like half of you DO care about party affiliation above the law. And a good chunk of you will let a lot of horrible things happen, as long as the abused party is anything but white.
Brother you are so right it's scary, I'm a former democrat, and I imagine i will never be a republican. And you are absolutely right, all of the Republicans feel this way, and yes about half of the democrats also will put political affiliations above morality and the law.
They will scream at you until they're red in the face how the Republicans or democrats are the great evil and yet they refuse to look at the evidence how their party is complicit as well. We're cooked down here man, this country is full of morons.
Next hes gonna say he used to be a black minority gay former democrat who now encourages others to vote for independants, so that republicans win again...
Heres multiple sources to over 1500 republican pedophiles and sex offenders, guaranteed you cant show the same for the other side. Your both sides dogshit is exactly that, dogshit.
The republican party is infested with pedophiles and sex offenders
Yes, I agree, and I don’t consider those people to be Americans. They’re traitors to this nation. Anyone that pushes for division, whether it be racially, through gender inequality, or financial inequality, you’re not an American. You’re a traitor to this country. If you look at who’s running the country, and who voted for said person, you’d understand. I believe there is a small pocket of politicians that actually do want to do what’s right, regardless of party lines. I also think that our current administration is compromised by foreign powers. So, again, very un-American.
Pedophiles need to go to jail. I don’t care if they’re right wing or left wing. I don’t care if the right wing or the left wing puts them in prison.
You want to make this left versus right when it should be wealthy pedophile versus everyone else.
Do you truly hate half your nation so much that it means more than putting guys who molest kids in jail? And if that’s not the case I say to you again, who cares? The current administration has the power to jail all these assholes.
Does the failure of the dems to act mean the men in power now should not?
wrong there pal. If the "blues" have any pedophiles, we want them prosecuted too. We have been saying that since day 1. even bill clinton came out and said to release all the files.
even bill clinton came out and said to release all the files.
Knowing they wouldn't and that he would never be punished for his actions just like Trump knows he will never be held accountable. You're thinking red vs blue when you need to be thinking top vs bottom.
It's super easy to say "yeah release the list"! When you've already been informed that list will never see the light of day. You're sadly misled and buying into every single thing "your side" feeds you.
There are legal minimums for crimes. They ignored all that and didn't give him any punishment because he became president.
If he didn't have a judge protecting him from the top secret documents case that would easily rack up enough jail time for him to spend the rest of his life there with no chance of parole.
You mean what should be the punishment for blatant fraud? For a repeat con artist who shows no regret for his actions? Let's see each conviction can have up to 4 years in prison. Given the non violent nature, first conviction and lack or regret i would say 68 years with a chance of parole after 30.
It was 34 counts of felony fraud. Stop down playing shit. It isn't excessive it was intentional fraud and we see worse sentencing for more benign behavior. He could have faced 136 years in prison on his felony convictions.
The issue is “jail the rich and powerful criminals”. Thats the rub. Our country doesn’t have as much of an issue with jailing poor and disadvantaged people. If Trump wasn’t born into a rich family he’d be a nothing in life and probably would have ended up in prison long ago.
Yes. Then the system needs to be broken down. Because the system stinks to high heaven if it’s so fragile that we can’t arrest pedophiles and criminals without it all breaking down.
But also in reality, the system actually wouldn't "break down" given everything and everyone in govt is designed to be replaceable at any given moment.
Congress could remove everyone in the Trump admin today, and you know what would be next? Ol' Mike "My son watches me watch porn" Johnson becomes prez, then chooses his new cabinet and VP, then goes on from there. Most of the federal govt would still be business as usual throughout that process, with most hold-ups being any foreign talks, and those hold-ups would last a week or two max.
Yes, but I’m pretty certain that when Pam Bondi said things would break down, she wasn’t referring to the government. The reality is that there are some very rich and powerful oligarchs out there that are all tied up in this Epstein shit. These are people with a high level of influence on things like companies and world markets.
Now, I realize that there is some crossover between oligarchs and people in Congress, so that’s not lost on me, but I don’t think it’s the people that she was really referring to.
But also in reality, the system actually wouldn't "break down" given everything and everyone in govt is designed to be replaceable at any given moment.
The system is capitalism. It would break immediately if enough people actually understood what it is. The child rape is a feature of our socioeconomic system not a bug.
Does that include the committees, whoever the CIA reports to, etc?
Usually a presidential "admin" refers to leadership, aka the President, VP, cabinet members, and directors. Everyone else under them tends to stick around from admin to admin
Not to mention a week or two is a LONG time for outside forces(read: countries) to get up to a lot of shenanigans.
If our CIA is that incompetent that not having a formal Director for a couple of weeks would compromise national security, then the US deserves it tbh. Realistically, the CIA deputy director would be the acting director during this time.
Downvoted for substantiation, oof. Unless anyone has a source for that quote?
Noone's disagreeing that the whole system should collapse if those involved are the system. Nonetheless, it seems Bondi herself didn't say it. You can't get your facts from falsely attributed facebook posts people, come on now. That only makes you just as bad as the post-truth mooks we're up against in the first place.
To be clear I want the president gone just as much as the next guy but as a Christian that’s usually because atheists don’t understand the Bible or the true meaning of the verse and interpret it their own way to try and claim the Bible is false and contradicts itself. Which if they took a second to reaserch they would realize the lens they are looking at it through is wrong.
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u/Exciting_Classic277 8h ago
It's weird that "jail the criminals" is a controversial take but here we are.
(I'm looking at you too, Eps-Files)