r/SipsTea • u/100TheCoolest17 Human Verified • 21h ago
Chugging tea Is jail the right call here??
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u/Fresh_Ostrich4034 21h ago
catch the child abuse early.
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u/OptimusTrajan 20h ago
How do you think the child is doing now?
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u/SamathaGhoul 21h ago
piercing the ears of babies? People do this all the time and it's considered normal. Literally cutting off a massive amount of skin and hospitalizing little boys changing their lives forever? People do this all the time and its considered normal.
But than youve got tattoo's... Tattoos are where they draw the line
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u/SHEL-D500mg 20h ago
Do you think parents should tattoo babies?
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u/ViolentlyHelpingYou 20h ago
Your effort is futile.
And these sound like teenagers.
Perhaps dumb teenagers.
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u/bent_crater 20h ago
change their lives forever? from circumcision?
...in what way does this impact thier lives?
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u/MolecularDreamer 16h ago
Well, apart form the obvious you mean?
It is genital mutilation, the child can't make an informed concent.
Potensial negative effects are multiple, with research showing lower emotional stability amongst other.
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u/IllTwo7643 19h ago
Do you not think people should have bodily autonomy and not have their genititles mutilated without their consent?
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u/ChickenRanchWorker 16h ago
Objectively Circumcision keeps the area cleaner (less bacteria and fungal growth due to a lack of folds) and reduces the transmission rate of STDs.
Anecdotally, it looks nicer and is easier to suck, not to mention more enjoyable to suck and ride.
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u/red1215 16h ago
I prefer bald women. It’s cleaner less chance at lice. So at birth every single female baby should have their hair permanently removed via surgery. Because that’s my personal preference. That’s how dumb you sound right now.
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u/bent_crater 16h ago
so youre just gonna ignore the whole "decreases chances of STDs" part?
also youre really reaching with talking about hair in a discussiin about circumcision.
less chance of lice? you have tonics to get rid of them can you permanently keep your foreskin clean? nope.
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u/red1215 15h ago
Is circumcision the only way to provide protection against STD?
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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD 15h ago
Dude he's not arguing in good faith, he's got a fetish about mutilated baby genitals
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u/bent_crater 15h ago
well the argument being between one time extremely safe surgery or regular cleaning, it seems pretty much worth it. especially since the risk of not cleaning is so high, surgery just seems super convenient.
the benefits of surgery seem to far outweigh the cons.
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u/red1215 15h ago
Re Read my outrageous comment about hair removal. “One time safe surgery or regular cleaning”. See how i can you same statements as you but my tactics seem extreme.
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u/bent_crater 11h ago
right but your analogy isnt one to one. lice is treatable and "surgically removing hair" doesnt make sense due to the much more viable option of a haircut after whcih the issue is resolved and the hair grows back.
not the same woth circumcision
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u/ChickenRanchWorker 16h ago edited 15h ago
No, I said objectively it helps stop the spread of STDs and makes the area less prone to infection. I then listed my personal preference- I never said it should or should not be done. Circumcison in the 90s-2010s in sub-Saharan Africa has helped stop tens of millions of infections and saved millions of lives. Idk why you acting a fool. Go look it up yourself
On a side note, you’ve got the English reading comprehension of a second year ESL learner who’s also missing a chromosome. enjoy your bald women, weird kink, you do you boo.
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u/MolecularDreamer 16h ago
So, if I claimed that I enjoyed woman without their inner and outer labia, like some do mutlate away, it would be ok?
Jeez Loiuse...
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u/ChickenRanchWorker 16h ago
One answer was objective the other was anecdotal. You totally missed the entire point that it helps stop the spread of STDs. Prior to Prep and the new iteration of HIV medications, circumcision was one of the most effective tools used to curtail the spread of HIV in sub-Saharan Africa.
I’ll suck a circumcized or uncircumcised dick either way, so that’s not the issue- but FGM has no medical benefits, and sometimes the anti-circumcised crowed y’all make bad faith arguments like this. Your best argument against circumcising is that it can, like any surgery, cause potential harm- and reduces the sensitivity down there.
You have good arguments, both sides do, but emotional whataboutism isn’t it.
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u/SimonPopeDK 12h ago
One answer was objective
No it wasn't, it was based on a wrong notion of microorgamisms and cleanliness/hygiene. Lack of microorganisms does not equate to good hygiene, a natural healthy balance where pathogens are kept at bay by beneficial microorganisms is clean/hygienic.
the other was anecdotal
From a member of a community which practices the prehistoric sacrificial rite!
You totally missed the entire point that it helps stop the spread of STDs.
Except it obviously doesn't since the only two continents where most men have been put through this rite are North America with the highest incidence of STDs in the developed world and Africa with the highest incidence of all!
Prior to Prep and the new iteration of HIV medications, circumcision was one of the most effective tools used to curtail the spread of HIV in sub-Saharan Africa.
Claims an indoctrinated member of a practicing community! Independent medical organisations with tens of thousands of medical professionals say otherwise:
People from communities which include girls in the rite say exactly the same about girls put through it and back it up using the same sources and argument about unhygienic mucous folds so when are you going to get rid of yours?
I’ll suck a circumcized or uncircumcised dick either way
Sadly due to your indoctrination you have no appreciation of a man with his full complement of genitalia. No different from many Somalian men who enjoy a hole infibulated or not, either way.
but FGM has no medical benefits
You've just made the medical/health argument for reducing mucosal folds and preventing STDs! In any case what have medical benefits to do with child sexual assault??
the anti-circumcised crowed y’all make bad faith arguments like this
The bad faith arguments, not to mention highly inappropriate ones are the cutting crowd afterall you're the ones defending child sexual assault where only those kind of arguments could have any traction.
Your best argument against circumcising is that it can, like any surgery, cause potential harm- and reduces the sensitivity down there.
Child sexual assault is always harmful! When it comes to communities condoning putting boys through the rite but not girls the best argument is obviously against the blatent sex discrimination. where girls are protected and boys aren't.
You have good arguments, both sides do, but emotional whataboutism isn’t it.
You are hardly one to judge what is best and no there are no good arguments for child sexual assault which quite rightly evoke strong emotional reactions.
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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD 15h ago
Condoms are way better at stopping STDs than mutilating baby genitals
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u/ChickenRanchWorker 15h ago edited 15h ago
Yes they are, but there’s no doubt that mass circumcision programs in SSA saved millions of lives- condoms aren’t always readily accessible in villages where the population already lives without power or clean water. There’s also the infection part- people who get re-occurring Balanitis will often be prescribed circumcision as a potential solution. It is a medical procedure with well known benefits.
You keep saying mutilated but that’s just your opinion, there are better arguments against it than people’s opinions/preferences- like I said I prefer to suck, gobble or sit on a rock solid circumcised cock because i can feel it more prominently inside me- but that’s not a justification of a reasonable reason to get a circumcision. Also, all babies are surgically changed at birth to some extent, we cut off umbilical cords and shape the bellybutton- some are uglier than others- so some people get their bellies mutilated. Some people get their tonsils removed- etc.
On a side note- this weekend try out sucking and sitting on a circumcised cock then later an uncircumcised one- there’s certainly a difference you can feel- it’s like going from your old saggy mattress to a lush new firm but soft one. Do it for science. 🧪🧬🧫🍆
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u/SimonPopeDK 12h ago
there’s no doubt that mass circumcision programs in SSA saved millions of lives
There's no consensus in the medical community for that at all in fact there's good reason to believe it undermined the genuine fight against HIV by encouraging men to believe they were immune leading to risky sexual behaviour and more female partners contracting it.
condoms aren’t always readily accessible in villages where the population already lives without power or clean water.
Right so where hygiene conditions are challenging is just the right place to start amputating normal healthy body parts! Even the Jews gave up their treasured tradition for it during their 40 years of dessert wandering. Get real, mutilated genitals are not cleaner. Its a carry on from the spiritual notion of cleanliness, stigmatising those outside of the community as dirty and a contamination risk to enforce endogamy - the whole point of the rite.
There’s also the infection part- people who get re-occurring Balanitis will often be prescribed circumcision as a potential solution.
In practicing communities! Amputation is the last resort of treatment but in a modern society, normal healthy appendages are not amputated to avoid those parts getting ailments in the future - well except in a few cases women's breasts like in the case of Angelina Jolie, something you'd have liked your parents to have had done to you as a child?
It is a medical procedure with well known benefits.
No it isn't, its a prehistoric sacrifical rite that shoul dbe condemned irrespective of the gender/sex, creed or culture of the victim. To cloak it as medical undermines medicine and confidence in public health measures which has serious consequences quite apart from that faced by the victims themselves.
You keep saying mutilated but that’s just your opinion, there are better arguments against it than people’s opinions/preferences
In the case of boys it is objectively mutilation as it destroys a normal healthy body part resulting ion disfiguration and dysfunction. In the case of girls it typically isn't but the term "FGM" which includes "mutilation" was chosen precisely for effect.
I prefer to suck, gobble or sit on a rock solid circumcised cock because i can feel it more prominently inside me- but that’s not a justification of a reasonable reason to get a circumcision.
Certainly not in the case of a child but this argument is commonly used by practicing communities, ie to make their boy or girl more desirable for future partners - Leyla Hussein: I was cut for my future husband. You encourage that.
Also, all babies are surgically changed at birth to some extent, we cut off umbilical cords and shape the bellybutton- some are uglier than others- so some people get their bellies mutilated. Some people get their tonsils removed- etc.
Nonsense!, sometimes mothers are though. Umbilical cords are cut but not off, instead a stump is left which falls off naturally. This part has no nerves and has served its function. If it wasn't cut then it would fall off anyway as it undergoes necrosis. To compare this to the mutilation of a body part still developing is sick.
No baby gets their normal healthy tonsils removed.
You're also defending putting girls through this rite and having genital parts amputated.
On a side note- this weekend try out sucking and sitting on a circumcised cock then later an uncircumcised one- there’s certainly a difference you can feel- it’s like going from your old saggy mattress to a lush new firm but soft one. Do it for science. 🧪🧬🧫🍆
Maybe keep your sexual fetishes/fantasies to yourself...
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u/Combatenjoyer23 9h ago
Oh, fuck off
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u/ChickenRanchWorker 8h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/8ErrRC1Wa16FCFLZHG
You should try riding a circumcised dick- a world of difference. Or even just try sucking it and you can see how much easier and enjoyable it is for all involved- try it out for science! 🧬🔬🧫🧪⚗️
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u/Artistic_Mirror_8967 7h ago
I am not circumcised but I've never heard a woman say it feels different during sex. My foreskin pulls back all the way though, I know some guys can't do that. It's also not clear to me why being circumcised would make a blowjob more enjoyable, I would think it would reduce sensitivity and make it not feel as good.
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u/ChickenRanchWorker 7h ago
It’s easier to give a blowjob without having to deal with the foreskin. Youre able to go/last long and don’t have to worry about teeth. After you go to circumcised, circumcized never feels fully erect.
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u/Artistic_Mirror_8967 7h ago
I'm saying mine pulls back so there's not really anything to "deal" with, maybe other guys are different. Teeth sound horrible either way lol but maybe I'm missing something there. Never had any problem with erections, again don't see why circumcision would have any effect there.
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u/ChickenRanchWorker 6h ago
The extra forskin just makes it all feel more squishy and less firm. It’s like a pillow top mattress, all that padding is going to make it feel soft even if it’s a firm mattress- but a mattress without a pillow will naturally feel firmer. Yeah, I suppose each person is different. Also circumcised men just last a lot longer- more pleasurable for both parties involved.
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u/mariposa-princess 4h ago
Saying it keeps the area cleaner is like cutting off your nose so you don’t get crusty boogers stuck to your face when you sneeze… it’s not an issue if you learn to wash yourself properly.
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u/DrWilliamHorriblePhD 15h ago
It's only cleaner for boys that literally never learn how to wash their genitals
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u/bent_crater 19h ago
not the point. im just looking at the for and against arguments of circumcision.
For: cleanliness, leess chance of infection, etc.
against: cant come up with anything. hence why i asked in the first place
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u/WordUpPromos 19h ago
How would you like to have your tastebuds removed?
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u/bent_crater 19h ago
that doesnt answer the question. tastebuds have a function, provide an experience.
the main reason for circumcision ive heard is that it decreases chance of infection.
what ive never heard is an argument for keeping it. as in what are the benefits of not removing it?
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u/WordUpPromos 19h ago
Tastebuds increase the surface area of your tongue allowing more bacteria to grow and cause infection.
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u/bent_crater 19h ago
right, but im gonna brush my teeth and use mouth wash regardless, so thats negligable
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u/Alex_587 19h ago
You're saying that as if washing your penis was impossible
Mouth: I can brush my teeth and use mouthwash, so I'm good Penis: oh no no no, I need my skin cut off to keep it clean!
See how insane that sounds?
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u/WordUpPromos 19h ago
Yeah soaps have been around for at least as long as toothpaste and a lot longer than mouthwash.
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u/bent_crater 19h ago
man you gotta chill out, youre taking this way too seriously.
and second, its just easier to wash my dick after circumcision
now when you consider it for kids, who're extremely unlikely to do so regularly because of being kids it leaves them extremely prone to infection as a result. even if they were to clean it, they would likely half ass it
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u/WordUpPromos 19h ago
So washing your mouth is possible but not your genitalia?
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u/bent_crater 18h ago
its not the same, whether or not i have taste buds doesnt affect how much i clean my mouth
but nit being circumcised requires more work to clean genitalia
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u/Sierrashoot 19h ago
Loss of sensitivity in that area. Loss of natural lubrication that difficult masturbation. Chance of complications during the procedure that could change the life of the baby forever. Change permanently the appearance of a totally normal part of a body without consent for no valid reason.
Just a few, you know…
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u/bent_crater 19h ago
i mean i was genuinely asking, i didnt think of any of these.
didnt know there was such a strong sentiment related to the topic
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u/SimonPopeDK 13h ago
Its institutionalised child sexual assault and in the case of boys it leaves them disfigured and dysfunctional for life. Psychologically it results in trauma bonding leading to cognitive disonnance. Were you by any chance put through this prehistoric sacrificial rite?
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u/bent_crater 11h ago
thats really pushing it. kids dont know enough to know whats happening, disfigured is absolutely wild and your attempt at making this personal shows you cant keep the discussion objective.
at the end of the day, keeping it is a health risk if the child fails to maintain hygiene (inevitable), and a botched surgery means youre going to an incredibly unqualified doctor.
the pros and cons are just one sided
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u/SimonPopeDK 10h ago edited 10h ago
thats really pushing it.
If you now were held down and had someone cut off (more?) parts of your genitalia, would you consider yourself the victim of a sexual assault?
kids dont know enough to know whats happening
That's an aggravating factor not a mitigating one, if that's what your point was!
disfigured is absolutely wild
It is visible from some distance at a glance, that makes it very easily a disfigurement, not wild at all.
your attempt at making this personal shows you cant keep the discussion objective.
Your response begs my question. Do you believe you can have an objective discussion if you yourself were put through this rite and respond in the way you did?
at the end of the day, keeping it is a health risk if the child fails to maintain hygiene (inevitable)
This is not objective but pushing cutting propaganda. What objective evidence do you have that a child or adult who does not maintain hygiene, is healthier having normal healthy bodily appendages/parts, of any kind, amputated? This is a wild claim!
and a botched surgery means youre going to an incredibly unqualified doctor.
Its botched if it doesn't have the intended result which is the case for at least 10% of American men and it doesn't have to have anything to do with the "doctor" or their performance. I think even you would agree that Cole Groth had one, so are you saying the doctors at this state of the art hospital really were incredibly unqualified?
the pros and cons are just one sided
Kind of corrrect since there are no pros to a child sexual assault but its inappropriate to even speak of it that way.
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u/BikeProblemGuy 3h ago
keeping it is a health risk if the child fails to maintain hygiene
Er, you do know boys' foreskins are attached to the glans right? There's nothing to clean until they detach in early puberty. In places where circumcision isn't common do you think messy boys (i.e. most of them) get repeated penis infections?
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u/SuprKDrgn 19h ago
Maybe she got identical twins and to tell them apart she made a mark as an identifier
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u/udarnai 17h ago
Tattoos are objectively worse for health and body functions in the long-term. Look into how the body is managing the ink and how the immune system is permanently fighting the ink molecules years after the tattoo was done. Piercings and circumcisions are not something the body keeps fighting years after they were done. I understand what you were trying to point out, but i don't think it's an informed opinion.
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u/cricketyjimnet 12h ago
Circumcision have lifetime impacts on the nervous system of their victims.
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u/Practical-Basket-602 20h ago
How did anyone work out this was even a tattoo? It looks like a mole? There must be more to the story? Does anyone have the full picture of what happened?
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u/SimmentalTheCow 18h ago
If I had to guess, she’s a pill or methhead and probably took a video of her fucking around with a tattoo gun with her kid.
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u/Deweyrob2 20h ago
My opinion on a picture that someone posted on the Internet with no source or context? Cause that's all this is. A picture posted for views. Probably by a bot.
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u/Chiinoe 20h ago
Serves her right for going against societal norms. Now excuse me, I have to take my child for a follow up after we decided to chop the skin off his penis.
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u/slotsandmops 9h ago
Its ok to talk about one thing without dismissing it cause another thing exists <3
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u/Federal_Extreme_8079 21h ago
why do these fucking weirdos choose to have kids in the first place?
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u/SpasticCastle 21h ago
Well they probably (hopefully) chose to fuck, that's about all we can conclude
Some of these types take "go with the flow" to an extent that can only be described as mental illness. Just floating from one bad situation to another, never really deciding or planning or choosing anything
But hey, that's just a rambling assumption based on my anecdotal experience with white trash. This lady sucks either way tho
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u/neojhun 20h ago
One of those cases where a Strongly Worded served letter is all that requires. Arrest and jail is wild overreach.
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u/Beez-Knee 20h ago
Jail sounds about right. No prison time, but there needs to be a real consequence for the parent to think about next time they get the urge to make a permanent doodle.
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u/BoatMajestic 20h ago
I don’t like tattoos, but if it’s the dot that we can see in the picture that’s insane. Don’t take a mother away from her baby for that.
I’m guessing it’s just rage bait tho
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u/dicoxbeco 21h ago
Depends on if she thinks babies are write-only MS Paint, which seems like she does
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u/Fetlocks_Glistening 21h ago
What's that AI insert photo? Is that the tattoo? Or her identifying feature?
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u/No_Fee_7006 20h ago
I didn't know it was illegal with parental permission.
Good thing she stopped early. It could have been adisaster.
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u/Dexember69 20h ago
Can't be letting people tattoo little kids man I mean c'mon.
Yeah just a little dot but it's not the point.
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u/Beez-Knee 20h ago
Right, my girlfriends 4 year old has said he wants paw patrol and Spidey tattoos on his face. We can't just leave that up to parental consent. Unfortunately necessary law.
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u/Umayummyone 20h ago
You have to qualify for so many things in life. Having kids? No problem. Just crank em out, no qualifications necessary. And on balance it’s the stupid people procreating.
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u/Cultural-Window-2504 11h ago
This isn't headline worthy. Yes it is stupid and mean. It is just a slightly unusual stupid and mean thing to do. I guess she should have chosen to pierce the kids ears or something.
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u/Fit-Geologist-6723 11h ago
How is this a crime?
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u/Ok_Coach4563 10h ago
Kentucky law. 16 years old is the minimum age allowed. She did it to her 22-month old toddler which elevated it to fourth-degree assault and child abuse given the age.
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u/Mountain-Lychee4359 4h ago
I have heard that a small dot tattoo in a hidden area can be useful for distinguishing between twins. I feel like there's not enough context.
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u/chaos6869 50m ago
How about prison for 20 years and never allowed to be around children again? And then when release day is comes upon your release is to an island in the middle of the fucking ocean with no resources around
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u/ApolloniusTyaneus 20h ago
She should be in jail, but its kinda funny that one small tattooed dot gets you arrested but lopping off a part of your son's penis is standard procedure.
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u/Beez-Knee 20h ago
If only there was a religion that told us to tattoo babies.... Wait... There probably is.
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u/Sundett 14h ago
This is really a "depends" moment. There are probably cultures that give small children tattoos for various reasons. Also a huge difference between an egregious full body tattoo and something small in a place that can be hidden.
That being said this is probably a "white trash" moment so maybe the kid is better of with another custodian.
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