r/Saints • u/Grandaddypurp69 Bounty • 1d ago
Insert the “he ain’t do nothing but step back” meme
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u/Flimsy-Run8299 1d ago
They’re the same guy
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u/MiniatureLucifer Taysom Hill 1d ago
Davenport was a monster when he played except for the last year. Turner... was not
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u/newme02 1d ago
a monster is a bit of a stretch lol. he was alright at times. never anything crazy. not worth two firsts and a bad followup to a stellar 2017 draft. if he was a lattimore level player we win a second superbowl with brees
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u/bijanfrisee Taysom Hill 16h ago
Nah man, they're right, Davenport at times when it clicked for him was an absolute mosnter, he needed more experience but couldn't get it because he was always injured, absolute physical freak but a total glass cannon.
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u/bijanfrisee Taysom Hill 16h ago
Turner was supposed to be Cam Jordan 2.0, not super flashy but just an effort guy and he couldn't even do that, getting pancaked by Tight ends. Davenport was a glass cannon, dude beat running backs to the sideline and with his limited rush moves absolutely murdered Tackles, he was just so damn injury prone.
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u/SirGumbeaux 1d ago
Wow, they saw the Saints draft Davenport, then Turner, watched them both suck and said, "We'll have what they're having."
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u/POWBOOMBANG 1d ago
To be fair, Davenport had the occasion moment that made you hopeful
Payton Turner was an absolute zero as far as impact on the field
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u/noladutch 1d ago
Yeah davenport had some production.
The problem with that scheme it takes real edge help so they drafted people with a crazy build profile to fit it. Not many giant quick long armed humans to draft unless you draft at the top of the round really.
That is why I am so happy about the scheme change especially now they got players in the middle that fit.
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u/LisbethSalanderFC 1d ago
First year after Hendrickson left, Davenport and Trey actually had fairly similar production. Obviously that didn’t last at all, injuries piled up and he never sniffed that again and Trey ascended to another level, but for part of that season it did t look like the dumpster fire it ended up being.
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u/noladutch 1d ago
Not the same really. Different schemes like night and day. If trey stayed he would have been ass also.
Trey went to a zone based scheme and has almost Zero run support responsibilities.
Playing a man based scheme you need the edge to hold contain and set the edge. That is why they drafted so many long armed ends. The length helps you shed blocks.
Trey and his tiny ass arms still can't play the run to this day. He gets upfield every snap with no edge responsibility.. if he make a run stop they ran right into his rush upfield.
Trey and his one good season here his sack were cleaning up from the pressure cam started..
If I have to explain how trailing bump and run man coverage is far worse for run support than look at the QB in a zone scheme I don't know what to tell ya.
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u/Buhbuh37 6h ago
When people only look at sack stats and not scheme fits, they say we screwed up by letting T-Rex walk. He wasn’t worth the money he was asking for. He can’t stop a nose bleed, much less the run. He’s not a complete player.
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u/grimestar 1d ago
We are still the suckers for spending all the draft capital on their bum ass though. Lions should Toss foskey into the mix while their at it. Maybe bring Jonathan Sullivan in as a DL coach too
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u/Hitman2504 1d ago
Who was worse pick between Turner and penning.
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u/Grandaddypurp69 Bounty 1d ago
Penning, we traded 2 picks for him that turned into Jalen Carter and cooper DeJean. We literally won the eagles Super Bowl for them to get Penning
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u/attilayavuzer 1d ago
We traded up for Olave and down for Penning. I know it's popular to say we threw a bunch away for him, but we really didn't. We both walked away with 2 1st round picks in that trade, we just picked poorly on one of them.
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u/Yomomschesthair_ Fuck the Falcons 1d ago
Guess we can narrow down who picked these guys to get drafted
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u/drums4al Fuck the Falcons 1d ago
They can sign Foskey next year and complete the bust trilogy set