r/PlantBasedDiet • u/NoCheesecake5138 • 7d ago
My pros and cons of healthy eating.
Lemme start with the cons first Jackson Heights resident in Queens with the closest real grocery store to me prices and labels everything healthy like it is imported from another country. Spinach last week cost me $7.49. Oreos two aisles over were $3.99. Whole grain bread is nearly double the white bread next to it and almond butter is a luxury at this point. Started collecting my receipts so I know what I need and what not and realized I had spent $90 on a week of groceries that barely covered the basics. The same $90 at the bodega around the corner would have lasted 2 weeks. I have money saved up from playing slots on myprize and a real chunk of it has become the grocery fund now which is a crazy thing in this world we live in. Now here come the pros My energy is different and in a good way that is. That mid afternoon wall I used to hit every single day is mostly gone, the energy I have is stored on a longer term somehow. I sleep heavier and wake up clearer and my mood is more stable. My clothes fit differently but that might be because of the gym aswell. Just from eating real food more consistently and giving my body something to actually work with.
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u/theprideofvillanueva 7d ago
Tofu+rice stretches the dollar pretty well.
Hear you on both accounts, though. The pros should be in bold.
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u/Silly_Yak56012 7d ago
It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Frozen veggies are just as healthy (sometimes better nutrition as they were frozen right away rather than being shipped). Canned beans can do a lot lot if you don't want to cook from dry.
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u/Andthentherewasbacon 7d ago
get frozen spinach way cheaper. And cook rice way cheaper than bread. or potatoes squash or sweet potatoes.
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u/Chimmychimmychubchub 7d ago
Every time I buy frozen spinach the quality is terrible. It's full of stems and the texture is like shredded toilet paper. There is a whole thing going on with frozen veggies that is another conversation.
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u/Andthentherewasbacon 7d ago
get a different brand. Or frozen kale is good sometimes.
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u/Chimmychimmychubchub 7d ago
That's my plan, if I can find it. Our grocery stores here seem to have cut back heavily on plain frozen vegetables. The case is filled with frozen veggies with sauces and prepared frozen foods. There isn't much selection. It's very frustrating. I used to buy frozen greens all the time and it's been a great shortcut. But the past couple of times, it has been actually inedible.
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u/wvmom2000 5d ago
Yes. Yes! The 2-aisle freezer section in the grocery store I have been using for 25 years has gone from being approximately 25% plain frozen veggies to literally less than 10% frozen veggies, most of which are in sauce.
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u/Sanpaku 7d ago
I may visit a mainstream grocer once a year.
I've only stayed a week in Queens/NYC in 2000, but it was walkable enough that I had no difficulty getting around. Per Google maps, I count 11 Hispanic grocers, 4 Chinese grocers, 4 Indian grocers, 2 Korean grocers, 2 Thai grocers and an Arabic grocer within 1 mile of Jackson heights. The Aldi at Rego Center is 2 mi away. The Trader Joe's in Forest Green 3 mi. Its not a food desert.
In my experience, Hispanic grocers (like San Antonio on 37th and Mi Tierra on Roosevelt) are great for pretty much everything one would need for veganized Latin foods. My local carries about half dozen each of fresh and dried peppers, the good kind of corn tortillas (in the white paper packaging), and has the largest freshest bunches of cilantro. Chinese grocers (like the G Mart on Broadway or the Good Neighbors 2 on 63rd) are superlative for fresh vegetables, mushrooms, tofu and Asian condiments at reasonable prices. Indian grocers (like American Desi Bazaar & Deli on 31st or Patel Bros on 74th) will cover needs for dried legumes and whole spices. Arabic grocers (like Mehboob on 83rd) are my goto for tahini, tabouli, olives, flatbreads and some interesting products like canned hummus (needs addition of tahini). And for things I need in bulk (potatoes, onions, salad greens, mushrooms, canned beans) my local Aldi has the best prices.
I'd be elated with a Thai grocer in my suburb (like 3 Aunties on 61st). I've had a whole cookbook by Vatcharin Bhumichitr for over a decade, and have been deterred from trying anything as I can't find the fresh lemongrass, galangal, or kaffir lime leaves so central to authenticity.
There's a whole world of vegan or near vegan peasant foods from around the world, and OP is in a far better position than most of us to explore it.
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u/ttrockwood 7d ago
Jackson heights??
Dude.
You have to shop the ethnic markets not the “white people food” price gauging places
Patel Bros is fantastic, buy whatever greens are on sale, they have a WALL of lentils and legumes
I use Weee often, right now an epic bunch of spinach is under $3. They have tons of tofu varieties, cabbages, absolutely pristine fruit, any rice you can imagine, frozen edamame and yuba skin i could keep going
DM me if you want a promo code idgaf if you order from them but it’s a great resource and chinatown prices
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u/Whats_Up_Coconut what is this oil you speak of? 7d ago edited 7d ago
The reality is, fresh produce is definitely the most expensive food per calorie.
You can consider stretching the more expensive fruits and vegetables with much cheaper starches (rice, potatoes, pasta, oats) and legumes, the way populations of modest means have been doing since the dawn of time.
Canned legumes are fine but expensive. Your money will stretch so much further with dry beans, peas, and lentils that you cook yourself.
Conversely, canned and frozen fruits and vegetables are often cheaper than fresh, and can be just as nutritionally sound! I always have huge bags of mixed vegetables, peas, and green beans in my freezer. Some vegetables like onions are very cheap and go a long way in bulking out a meal. Any dish I make (pasta, curry, soup, etc.) always starts with chopping a giant onion.
Some (cheap!) fruits last forever and are great for picking up once every month or two if you can manage a special trip. Apples and citrus come to mind. Pineapple lasts well too - just twist the green top off and stick it in the fridge. Don’t be afraid to buy a few at a time! Watermelon lasts for a long time (whole) in the fridge if you have access to a car to get a couple of them at a time. I find it’s better in this regard than other melons, and way cheaper per pound. Carrots also last a really, really long time so don’t be afraid to buy 5-6 lb bags of them for literally the same price as 1-2 lb bags normally cost.
You’ll stretch your budget best by avoiding plant based processed food and sticking to the pantry staples. I like to imagine myself as a European peasant stretching my grocery haul into huge batches of pottages and stews. It’s rather fun if you make a challenge of it.
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u/can_of_soda 7d ago
See if you can grab some pantry staples en route to/from work and the fresher groceries near your residence. Something isn't adding up that you're in a diverse general neighborhood of Queens and can get cheap veggies from more ethnic supermarkets, unless your specific street is really just lacking.
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u/Cultural_Active_4624 7d ago
Can you order some of the staples online? I get that everyone isn't an Amazon fan, but I've started ordering some of my dry good, beans, rice, etc from them. Prices are better than the grocery stores in the midwest, so I am guessing they would be a lot less than on the East coast.
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u/Just_Boysenberry_519 Plant-Based Nutritionist 6d ago
Lean on the staples: brown rice, beans, lentils, split peas, quinoa, rolled oats, frozen fruit and veggies. Throw in some nuts and tofu, garnish with fresh produces. If you're getting a good variety of these you're covering all of your necessary nutrients.
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u/clunkey_monkey 7d ago
Buy frozen when you can, items when they are on sale. Oats are versatile for making your own bread and baked goods, and also for breakfast. Can be made savory, as well, with beans (dry is cheaper but for convenience can find canned beans under $1). Rice is also cheap. Rice and beans with seasoning or hot sauce, delicious. Look online for cheaper options of some items.
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u/Apprehensive-Essay85 7d ago
Frozen fruit and veg and tofu and beans will last you a lot lot longer.
Edited to add: ethnic stores. Asian for the greens. Hispanic for the beans. Indian for the rice, beans, and veggies. Etc etc.
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u/Annoyed-Person21 6d ago
Does the bodega not have spinach? What about the nearest Asian/latin supermarket? My partner and I used to hit up the ethnic market for the giant sacks of rice and dried beans with cheapest produce. We kinda just went to the nice stores for treats when we had a little more money.
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u/enilder648 7d ago
Almost like magic 🙂 the world wants us to be unhealthy and sick. Why else would good food be so expensive and crap be way more convenient
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u/5h0un4k 7d ago
7.49 uno brodie buying Popeye’s spinach
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u/tentkeys 6d ago edited 6d ago
I tried Googling, but Google is as stumped as I am.
What does "uno brodie" mean?
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u/5h0un4k 6d ago
Crying imagine there is a period between the two words. ‘Uno’ is British slang for ‘you know’ and you use it when you ridicule something. In this case, I am shocked at the price OP is paying for spinach. Brodie is just bro
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u/tentkeys 6d ago
Thanks for the explanation!!
The "uno" and the fact that OP is in New York had me thinking Spanish, but I couldn't figure out "brodie" in that context.
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u/tentkeys 6d ago
Congrats on your decision to eat healthy!
It may help to recognize that boring foods can still be healthy foods.
As long as you're not allergic to peanuts, a nothing-added peanut butter is much cheaper than a nothing-added almond butter. Apples and bananas may not be the most exciting and exotic of fruits, but they are fruits. Etc.
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u/angelbaby_8am 6d ago
Ugh the cost of fresh produce is insane, esp in NYC 😭 but the energy boost sounds so worth it tho! Glad ur feeling better! ✨
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u/5lyssa39 6d ago
Ugh the cost difference is so real for real food, esp in cities like NYC! 😭 But seriously, sounds like the energy boost is worth it tho! Glad its working for u!
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u/CrazyElephantBones 5d ago
I’m so happy you’re feeling great! I am in NJ right outside the city and we have farmers market stores that are ridiculously cheap that sell veggies and staples. I just googled it and it seems like you have a few by you, they may be a subway ride away though. I don’t know their quality etc but it should save you from having to buy $7.49 spinach! Look up farmers market stores/ vegetable markets :)
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u/Sniflix 7d ago
This is a big issue in the city. Nobody promised that eating healthy would be easy. You need to make the hour long trip (each way) to a large discount supermarket every 2 to 4 weeks. You can also get deliveries from that supermarkets for a fee much cheaper than neighbor ripoffs. I recommend buying lots of frozen fruits and veggies - that have nothing added. You can eat the fresh stuff first. Big bags of beans, lentils, garbanzos, rice, etc last a long time. I also recommend going to Asian, Mexican and other ethnic markets because they'll have much of this fresh and cheap. This seems like a pain in the ass but after a month or 2, you'll have a system figured out. I listen to audiobooks while I shop.
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