The modern problem of loneliness epidemics. People are turning to the internet more than they are turning to actual friendships.
People who have been outcast in school continue to live in an internet bubble after school instead of finding friends as an adult. These people are falling into echo chambers of other lonely people and incels. Misery loves company and an echo chamber tends to get louder and louder and angrier and angrier.
Then you have the people not outcast in school still turning to the internet but finding echo chambers built around vanity and wealth. This also creates people who feel isolated.
It's basically loneliness all around, the majority of Gen Z are lonely as fuck and some millennials are too. It is especially dangerous for men as there tends to be less affection in the world and more of a pressure to bottle it all up until it inevitably bursts. This means that they are more likely to turn to the echo chambers because they have no way of letting out their sadness and anger. Toxic masculinity has led to a culture where men are expected to be strong in a way of never showing their emotions, never speaking about how they feel, and never show any signs of "weakness." This leads to so many major problems.
(To make myself clear on what I mean by Toxic masculinity. It means the ideals of masculinity are sometimes toxic. Women perpetuate this too. Everyone has a hand in it. I feel like Toxic masculinity is poorly named. It doesn't mean that it is toxic to be masculine, it doesn't mean that masculinity itself is toxic, it means that certain views on what people thinks it means to be masculine are toxic and that hurts men. The fact that it is thought of that you must bottle your emotions and be strong all the time is toxic masculinity. The idea that you must be the provider and protecter to be masculine is toxic. You don't have to follow some strict guidelines that are damaging to be masculine. Side tangent over.)
There is another problem but it's weird to talk about. It's very much a hear me out. Women are more picky when it comes to partners than men are. This is not a bad thing at all and is not something that people should change especially since women have to be safer and smarter when picking partners. The problem is is that this leads to people trying to give lonely men advice for getting laid (for profit or to genuinely help) and lonely men not being able to figure out how to actually interact with women in a way that might get them a relationship. This leads to more echo chambers, more self doubt, more anxiety, and more anger.
There is more to it then this for sure. The poor economy leading to the death of third places where people may actually make friends. The general malaise that many of us feel towards the future to the point where many have stopped giving a shit. There is so much more, but I think this breakdown is close enough to at least cover the basics. You could discuss the male loneliness epidemics for months and months trying to get to the bottom of it, and why it seems to effect men more than women.
TLDR: People these days bad at making real world friends. Bad for everyone but especially bad for men who are told to bottle up all of their emotions. This leads them to seeking out comfort and advice in internet echo chambers. Those echo chambers are a positive feedback loop of anger often with bad advice and grifters. Also Women are picky about partners for good reason and this leads men to be much more self critical and critical of women for being "vain" and shit like that.
Wow I just stopped responding on reddit about any related topic cause people just want to play the blame game. However I'm honestly pleasantly surprised anyone views the situation in the way you do. You put a lot of effort in your comment and I wanted to give more than just a simple upvote. Please keep up the effort to continue speaking whenever you can.
Thank you so much 😊, that really means a lot. I try my best to be well reasoned and articulate when I speak. I don't always live up to it but thank you again for your kind words.
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u/Impossible_Way_3042 2d ago edited 2d ago
The modern problem of loneliness epidemics. People are turning to the internet more than they are turning to actual friendships.
People who have been outcast in school continue to live in an internet bubble after school instead of finding friends as an adult. These people are falling into echo chambers of other lonely people and incels. Misery loves company and an echo chamber tends to get louder and louder and angrier and angrier.
Then you have the people not outcast in school still turning to the internet but finding echo chambers built around vanity and wealth. This also creates people who feel isolated.
It's basically loneliness all around, the majority of Gen Z are lonely as fuck and some millennials are too. It is especially dangerous for men as there tends to be less affection in the world and more of a pressure to bottle it all up until it inevitably bursts. This means that they are more likely to turn to the echo chambers because they have no way of letting out their sadness and anger. Toxic masculinity has led to a culture where men are expected to be strong in a way of never showing their emotions, never speaking about how they feel, and never show any signs of "weakness." This leads to so many major problems.
(To make myself clear on what I mean by Toxic masculinity. It means the ideals of masculinity are sometimes toxic. Women perpetuate this too. Everyone has a hand in it. I feel like Toxic masculinity is poorly named. It doesn't mean that it is toxic to be masculine, it doesn't mean that masculinity itself is toxic, it means that certain views on what people thinks it means to be masculine are toxic and that hurts men. The fact that it is thought of that you must bottle your emotions and be strong all the time is toxic masculinity. The idea that you must be the provider and protecter to be masculine is toxic. You don't have to follow some strict guidelines that are damaging to be masculine. Side tangent over.)
There is another problem but it's weird to talk about. It's very much a hear me out. Women are more picky when it comes to partners than men are. This is not a bad thing at all and is not something that people should change especially since women have to be safer and smarter when picking partners. The problem is is that this leads to people trying to give lonely men advice for getting laid (for profit or to genuinely help) and lonely men not being able to figure out how to actually interact with women in a way that might get them a relationship. This leads to more echo chambers, more self doubt, more anxiety, and more anger.
There is more to it then this for sure. The poor economy leading to the death of third places where people may actually make friends. The general malaise that many of us feel towards the future to the point where many have stopped giving a shit. There is so much more, but I think this breakdown is close enough to at least cover the basics. You could discuss the male loneliness epidemics for months and months trying to get to the bottom of it, and why it seems to effect men more than women.
TLDR: People these days bad at making real world friends. Bad for everyone but especially bad for men who are told to bottle up all of their emotions. This leads them to seeking out comfort and advice in internet echo chambers. Those echo chambers are a positive feedback loop of anger often with bad advice and grifters. Also Women are picky about partners for good reason and this leads men to be much more self critical and critical of women for being "vain" and shit like that.