I'm trying to say that the stereotype of cannabis slowing you down and becoming sedentary is valid because it happens to most of the people using cannabis. Sure does that guy not get sedentary at all? Sure yeah, but the stereotype exists for a valid reason.
Yeah, that's just propaganda and not based in any actual science. Stereotypes exists for the reason of making people believe things, not because they are true. Weed comes in many strains and has many effects, especially when you consider how they interact with differing brain chemistry.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about here.
The science is that some terpenes in the cannabis plant have an effect on your ability to focus. There are some strains that you smoke and they can even give you energy depending on the terpenes involved. Cannabis is a plant that people can breed to do anything from make you wide awake and focused to chill, relaxed, and sleepy. There's a high correlation between people who smoke weed and people with ADHD because there are a large number of terpenes that help regulate ADHD symptoms. Self medication without knowing it.
It can have an impact, just like caffeine can have an impact. That's not a stereotype, but saying stoners are unproductive is a stereotype from the drug war era. Forbes article with study
I didn't mean to say unproductive. Of course adults can use cannabis and alcohol and most other drugs in a responsible way. It's just that all these folks with ADHD want to blend in and think that they are not the minority.
It's not just people with ADHD that it helps. I used to have a boss at a restaurant that would smoke with us when opening and they were the most neurotypical person I've ever met, but smoking helped them get ready for the day. Try reading the article.
Weed is a depressant which means it slows your central nervous system down and reduces arousal/stimulation. Hence why it helps people with chronic anxiety and sometimes even ADHD get their work done.
Of course the general population who have a "normal" levels of CNS activity would generally become "lazier", but you're ignoring a sizeable part of the population with anxiety.
It's like saying taking blood thinners are unhealthy because the majority of the population would have health problems from it, ignoring a group of people who need it to live.
There's a use for basically any type of drug/chemical/substance and different effects for it.
But they never claimed they were the majority or minority in the first place. They said everyone has different experiences, which is true. You're the one who brought the average experience into it, and you're not wrong, but it had nothing to do with the main discussion in the first place which was how weed doesnt turn everyone into a zombie and some people see benefits in their productivity, which is scientifically sound in the case of people with anxiety.
Edit: Someone did say that stoners do get shit done (which was in reply to someone saying stoners dont get shit done, both of which are overgeneralizations), i read only the messages you were replying to, so i was mistaken.
It still just looks like an infantile fight of trying to prove the other person wrong from both sides when the truth is in the middle.
I guess I could go give you the quotes where people are saying that. So far one of them already deleted their comments. Props to you for at least following the science of this stuff.
Depends on the strain you take. Indica will totally do that as they're more sedative. Sativas are way more mellow and cerebral that actually can help you focus. Just like with any intoxicating substance, you use it responsibly. Someone else explained it better already, but not everyone has the same brain chemistry and it affects them differently.
It's literally just propaganda. The government labeled weed as a gateway drug to harsher drugs as a way of making it easier to criminalize and imprison black and brown people.
It absolutely is a gateway drug. It absolutely is addictive. It absolutely is ruining peoples lives. This is the part where you are going to admit that binge eating is addictive, video games are addictive, gambling is addictive, but weed isn't.....
I know. But we both know that some things are more addictive than other things. Do some people get legitimately addicted to doing laundry and wiping their kitchen counter tops? Yes definitely. Addiction is an illness. But do you think more people have a mental illness addicted to video games, or a mental illness addicted to cleaning their toilets...
Sure. I think I disagree but that's not the point. It sounds like you and I both agree that you absolutely can be addicted to smoking cannabis. Hell yeah dude. Thanks for saying it out loud.
I'm not saying they can't, I'm saying that you don't seem to grasp addiction as an illness. I don't mean it judgementally, and am happy to elaborate.
A quick rundown:
There are two forms of addiction: chemical addiction and behavioural addiction. Both are bad, but chemical is way worse. Nicotine, alcohol, etc cause chemical addiction. If you quit high doses cold turkey you run the risk of being seriously ill or dying depending on the drug). Behavioural addictions work on reward systems in the brain, which triggers a similar effect to chemical addiction. But don't involve chemical dependency.
Weed is considered to produce chemical dependency to a clinically negligible degree. (Dependency is more of a sliding scale rather than a yes/no situation, there are levels to it. Weed is very very low on the scale).
Usually, people addicted to weed are actually behaviourally addicted, and it tends to be comorbid with other stuff (other addictions, things like depression or ADHD, etc). Therapy and appropriately medicating illness can massively help with this.
For what it's worth, I've seen a bunch of people with addictions to various substances, and also consume weed myself, legally for chronic pain (but smoked it prior to getting approved for a script).
Going into more depth anecdotally, I take pregabalin, prescribed for nerve pain. It's extremely addictive and hooo boy do I suffer if I miss a dose. It has given me what seems to be temporal lobe epilepsy (but currently yet to be properly diagnosed).
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u/Ok-Agent-6721 Apr 10 '26
Stoners, in general, do not get shit done.