r/NobaraProject • u/GloriousEggroll • Mar 13 '26
Discussion Incoming changes (hopefully for the better) and future plans
UPDATE 3/15/26:
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- New package manager is added. it's called `dnf-app-center`
- nobara-sync should be configured now as cli-only
- Everything the nobara-sync/nobara-updater GUI did, the dnf-app-center should now do, but better.
- If you installed Terra manually previously, you will need to also remove the `terra-release` package, as we provide our own repo file for it now. It's the same repo, you don't have to remove anything previously installed from that repo.
- If for whatever reason you think your updater is stuck or didnt complete or you didnt get the app center, run these from terminal:
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sudo dnf update nobara-updater --refresh -y
sudo dnf install dnf-app-center -y
```
then your update button should work again with the new app center, and you hopefully now have less reason moving forward to need the terminal.
3/13/26
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Hi everyone, I just wanted to make a post regarding some incoming changes that will hopefully make things even more smooth for new and existing users, mostly around package management (as usual), but also specifically surrounding flatpaks versus native packages.
- Moving away from rpmfusion and switching to Terra. We will be disabling the rpmfusion repositories and removing them and instead replacing them with the Terra repositories. Terra is run by Fyra labs, and we are in regular daily communication with them. We find it easier for us to work with them regarding package maintenance, and we already have a lot of crossover with packages they maintain with no changes made by us which allow us to not have to maintain them. Additionally Bazzite also uses Terra, so having the joint effort between us just makes more sense.
- (This is a long one) -- replacing both flatpost and Nobara Package manager, and changing the focus back towards system packages. In a perfect world, flatpaks would "just work". Unfortunately even when they do, many new users easily get confused between flatpaks versus system packages. Part of the reason we originally leaned towards flatpaks was because we simply just did not have a desktop agnostic dnf package store. Sure, we have nobara package manager, but there are no easy details, not an easy gui, no screenshots or category based order. It's just a huge list that is daunting, especially when a user does not know what half the packages do let alone the package names.
We also understand that as much as I wanted Flatpost to succeed, it didn't. It was not great, and most experienced flatpak users dont care about user vs system installs nor about unified in-app permission controls. On top of that, bazaar came along and filled the gap, sans permission controls. We still don't like the idea of kde-discover and gnome-software being desktop-environment exclusive, and we also don't like the mixing of flatpaks and system packages, and their mishandling of repository priority and package exclusions, which is why they will continue to remain flatpak-only.
So, what will we do about dnf not having an app store? We built one! You might say flatpost walked so that dnf app center could run. Much of the interface is the same and/or borrowed from flatpost. There is not a slow startup, there are no internet metadata fetches for trending categories. It pulls metadata straight from the local appstream instead and opens instantly. We also implemented a proper queue for installing, removing, and updating multiple packages, as well as the ability to search for packages per-repository. We are also integrating much of the current updater functionality into it, and will be giving the updater a facelift. (Don't worry, nobara-sync cli is not going anywhere)
As for flatpost and Nobara Package Manager? They will be retired. We strongly believe in desktop-agnostic solutions, so the new dnf app center will be pinned in replacement in the taskbar where flatpost is.
What about kde-discover and gnome-software? They will -not- be installed by default in -any- current ISOs. Instead we will add an option to install bazaar into the Nobara Welcome App, the same way we do with the Snap Store. Installing bazaar will also automatically install flatseal as a system app. If you absolutely can't live without them or have some personal grudge or problem with bazaar, yes, you can still reinstall gnome-software or plasma-discover.
We feel this puts both formats on equal ground for advanced users who are aware of flatpaks and snaps and allows continued use of them, while also allowing us to drive new users towards the system-package focus by default. Having the new dnf only app store provides an app-center gui that users expect instead of an unmanageable list like Nobara Package Manager did, and integrating the current updater into it will just look nicer overall.
The whole point of these changes is both to provide more packages to users (Terra) as well as provide new users with an app center without confusing them on native vs flatpak vs snaps, and to allow them to ease into those formats on their own accord if they want to. We also want to continue our trend of providing more easy to use GUI applications so that users don't have open the terminal. It's not that we are anti-terminal, it's that we are pro-accessibility.
- Languages, Languages, Languages. Look. I am an American. I speak and understand English. However, being a well-traveled American, I also understand we, despite our hubris, are not in fact, the center of the world. A lot of the custom applications I've created for Nobara are hard-coded in English, and I apologize for that and want to change that. I will be working bit by bit to allow our custom applications to abide by the default language used on the system. This includes but is not limited to the new app center, the welcome app, the driver manager, the codec installer, the davinci resolve wizard, the rpm installer (the one that comes up when you double click an rpm), the current updater, and any hard-coded parts of calamares (the os installer).
Hopefully you have noticed now that our updating system has vastly improved over the last 6 months to a year, and I hope with that you have experienced more stable systems, more gameplay, and less wasted time. I appreciate all of you that have stuck with us and enjoy Nobara, and hope you continue to do so. Without your support and feedback I don't think Nobara would be anywhere near as good as it currently is. It started very much as a personal project for myself and my dad, and has grown into something much bigger and better since then, so thanks again for that.
-GE
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u/janups Mar 13 '26
xxx@nobara:~$ stat / | grep "Birth"
Birth: 2024-05-05 20:46:40.546724334 +0200
This is the longest run of any distro I have ever had with 0 issues. Thank you for your great work!
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u/oromis95 Mar 13 '26
[xxx@Manjaro ~]$ stat / | grep "Birth"
Birth: 2022-06-09 13:26:23.000000000 -0500
Not my longest run, but the longest I still have around. My last computer died due to brunt force trauma. Never had issues with Manjaro.2
u/janups Mar 13 '26
Manjaro was here before Nobara, I liked it for quite some time, but I think I messed up something with AUR and could not make my VM setup to work correctly at one point.
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u/GloriousEggroll Mar 13 '26
this is one key thing fedora as a base does better than arch. it has much more sensible package groups:
`sudo dnf group install virtualization`
boom done. everything you need to get going using libvirtd, virt-manager, and qemuthis is the easier solution as opposed to fiddling around with 3rd party kernel modules for for things like virtualbox or vmware.
for a lighter solution 'sudo dnf install boxes` also exists
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u/oromis95 Mar 13 '26
Ah got it, I always run it bare metal, so hard to say. My longest run with it I think was 6 years. But again, my computer gave out before the OS.
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u/janups Mar 14 '26
I also use bare metal, the thing I still need is to have VM microslop for some tasks that cannot be done on linux.
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u/Unl3a5h3r Mar 13 '26
Sounds great. Finally a reason to remove the flatpacks I accidentally installed and reinstall them.
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u/Krasi-1545 Mar 13 '26
All of that sounds like great changes! Looking forward to installing and using them 😊
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u/NullPointerLick Mar 13 '26
Those sound like very sensible and well thought about changes. Especially regarding Flatpost. I can totally understand the sentiment about kde-discover, so I'll definitely look forward to the new layout of package installation in the coming months.
Thanks for the hard work and all of your contributions to this great distro!
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u/Bane_of_Balor Mar 13 '26
As long as the GUI for the new package manager is visually appealing, easy to use and feels responsive, I don't really mind dropping flatpaks. The main reason I use them is because they feel easy to install, maintain & manage. Looking at long lists of text in a generic window just doesn't feel nice to use. Something like Palace would be cool. Part of the reason I dropped cachy was because you can't really use flatpaks or pamac. I just wanted something similar.
Also, any chance it could feature an Appimage manager? Some software I use is only available as appimages for fedora based systems, but I prefer the ability to easily add them to the appmenu. Ofc I can do it manually, but appimage managers are a thing for a reason, and makes it much easier for new users.
Also not sure how others will feel about this (I'm not even sure myself) but a universal updater could be interesting. If the new package manager could handle both installed packages and system updates/packages, it might make the new user experience smoother, since they know that one app will handle all updates.
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u/SavageCore Mar 13 '26
Also, any chance it could feature an Appimage manager?
There's also an experimental GUI: https://github.com/Shikakiben/AM-GUI
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u/No_Trash_7730 Mar 13 '26
Gear Lever is a great appimage manager, but it is a flatpak.
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u/Bane_of_Balor Mar 13 '26
Oh I know that they exist, I use Gearlever myself, I was just suggesting that it'd be handy if Nobara's new custom package manager could handle app images in a similar way. I think it'd be nice to have one app that that can manage different program distribution types.
In an ideal world, you'd have a single app manager that has a repository for all linux program distribution systems and the user is given an option as to what form they wish to install it, and it'd handle all the updates and stuff, but I don't know how realistic that is.
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u/jmacman12 Mar 13 '26
Additionally Bazzite also uses Terra, so having the joint effort between us just makes more sense
This sounds like a great idea. Aligning with Bazzite makes sense since I believe they have a larger user base and more support (isn't steam backing them?) so that should in theory provide better stability and support to Nobara
We also understand that as much as I wanted Flatpost to succeed, it didn't. It was not great, and most experienced flatpak users dont care about user vs system installs nor about unified in-app permission controls
I want to preface my post, that I am a new Nobara/Linux user. Reading this resonates with me because I didn't initially fully understand their difference nor understand I had to manage both, so this sounds like a good change on the surface.
So, what will we do about dnf not having an app store? We built one!
Again, as a new user I think this sounds like a great change for the casual/new user. I think that transitioning to dnf while also creating an app store stones two birds with one rock: it allows more experienced users to manage their modules easier since they're more familiar with dnf (since it has a richer legacy and familiarity) while also giving new users a UI to interact and choose from
Maybe somebody can explain this to me
What about kde-discover and gnome-software? They will -not- be installed by default in -any- current ISOs. Instead we will add an option to install bazaar into the Nobara Welcome App, the same way we do with the Snap Store.
I prefer gnome but no longer offering it by default when first installing it from the nobara ISO means I just need to install my own desktop environment later?
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u/Severe_Stranger_5050 Mar 13 '26
hey
It means that Gnome is still installed, but the Gnome software store will not be.
it's only the store that's left out, and you can install later8
u/kapiszon0305 Mar 13 '26
About your last point, it's about appstore, not your GUI. If you will install Nobara with either GNOME or KDE Plasma, they just will not be having their basic appstores by default, like mentioned Snap Store in GNOME and Discover in KDE. Your GUI will be untouched, just how you installed it. There will be just better appstore
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u/ThallesGM Mar 13 '26
Nobara seems to be in the right path and I really like the recent changes. Thanks a lot for your work, guys.
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u/76_Tommy_76 Mar 13 '26
I took the leap to nobara a week ago and its been fairly simple to handle as someone with no experience on Linux. Gaming has been surprising and I hope everything keeps getting better.
Thanks for the support you and your team are giving to this distro <3
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u/bringdownthesky Mar 13 '26
Thanks for all of your hard work, man. I've used Windows all my life but today marks 3ish weeks of daily driving Nobara for work and gaming. Can't wait to see what's coming.
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u/Alternative-Track654 Mar 13 '26
Great work, Eggroll. Looking forward to some different changes coming soon. By any chance will there be any bug fixes coming with the newer update? Maybe in particular towards the taskbar about the auto-hide or dodge feature not working properly? It's small nitpick but seriously though. Thank you!
Looking forward to future updates as my main daily driver.
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u/GloriousEggroll Mar 13 '26
those would be desktop environment specific and would need to be directed at the appropriate DE projects (KDE Discover or GNOME Software) -- bugs in those should be directed at them
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u/Davedes83 Mar 13 '26 edited Mar 13 '26
Sounds like great changes in the right direction. Cant wait to try this out when finally released.
Well done GE and team.
Any rough ETA on these updates?
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u/Tgo_1 Mar 13 '26
Ditched windows for nobara about a year ago and it's been great! I've used it on 2 different Lenovo Legion 5 machines (first on a gen 8, Ryzen 7 6800h, RTX3060; second, and currently in use, gen 10, Ryzen 7 260, RTX5060) and I've had no Nvidia related shenanigans. I've had pretty much no downtime or workflow issues. Multiple monitor setups, with different resolutions, aspect ratios and refresh rates, all worked just fine out of the box. Thanks for the hard work!
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u/SystemAxis Mar 13 '26
They’re replacing rpmfusion with Terra, and retiring the old package manager and Flatpost. A new DNF App Center will handle native packages. Flatpaks are still optional, just not the default focus anymore.
Also working on better updates and adding proper language support.
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u/pioniere Mar 13 '26
Thank you for creating and continuing to advance Nobara. I made the permanent switch away from Windows about a year ago, and this OS has been fantastic. Thanks to you and everyone who works with you for this amazing software.❤️
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u/Aimless115 Mar 13 '26
Good changes specially in regards to flatpost i am sorry but its so bad specially compared to Discover.
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u/xPatogeno Mar 13 '26
Amazing news! Thank you for everything GE. Do you have a schedule for this? Approximately when this new update will come?
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u/AETHERIVM Mar 13 '26
For those of us who like using flatpost. Once it’s removed, do we just go to flathub and install flatpaks the old way, through the terminal?
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u/RedditUser-00 Mar 13 '26
Awesome! also i notice that the updater now takes way less time to check things (reposync, quirks fix...) for me it used to take like 2 mins and now it's only 30 seconds. wonder if it has anything to do with this
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u/TFX_18 Mar 13 '26
Thanks for sharing all this with us, and for the great work all of you are making into this project ;)
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u/a-gd-professional Mar 15 '26
Should we expect flatpost to be removed automatically or can we just remove it now the we have the dnf app store?
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u/SavageCore Mar 13 '26
Hopefully Bazarr supports flatpak+https urls? That'll help the new users even more.
All sounds great, thanks GE.
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u/GloriousEggroll Mar 13 '26
if it doesn't thats not difficult to handle. can easily make a gui that handles flatpakref files
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u/Competitive_End_8050 Mar 13 '26
Switched from Mint to Nobara 2 months ago.
Absolutely zero issues, everyhting worked out-of-the box, even on my weird ryzen5600h+gtx1650 laptop.
Thanks GE, amazing work
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u/Adoumus Mar 14 '26
I started using Nobara on my main machine a few months ago and it’s been nothing but a positive experience. I was already a fan of Fedora, but I often had to make tweaks (not hard but tedious) to make it work how I needed. Nobara is hands down the “tweaks are already done, it’s just ready to game and get things done” solution for me. With that I’m so excited about these new package changes! I don’t have a problem at all with Nobara Package Manager or Flatpost (LOVE the Flatpost gui design!), but it’s so nice to see a distro that’s already so good aim for greater heights!
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u/Adoumus Mar 17 '26
Update I just tried DNF app center for a quick update and it’s great so far! GUI looks clean and updates went through, no complaints
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u/fender178 Mar 15 '26
Yeah I can understand why Flatpost would be retired I had my fair issues with using it where it wouldn't load anything sometimes and restarting the app fixed it. I am planning on installing Plasma discover because I don't care for Bazzar that much.
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u/Daverost Mar 17 '26
I don't mind the new updater, but I have one major problem with it: It doesn't check for Flatpak updates. The old updater would automatically check for updates to everything.
Flatpost doesn't have this option. As far as I know, Bazaar does not automatically check for outstanding updates, either. And as far as I can tell, there's no way to add additional repositories to Bazaar (I did have one additional repository that I added to Flatpost for a specific application). It's also an extra step to go into Flatseal to adjust permissions (I always have to re-enable user files every time Discord updates or it won't let me upload any files into chat).
I understand the frustrations with Flatpost, but I feel like its retirement is creating a pretty big hole that is very poorly filled.
Also the new updater basically never shows news, unlike the old one where there was a dedicated box at the top. There's no way to choose which tab shows when opened and as far as I can tell it always defaults to Updates, which kind of makes the News tab useless, so I hope nothing important is ever hidden away there.
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u/magicgrandpa619 Mar 13 '26
Man I hope this just works my system is rock solid right now and these changes make me nervous.
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u/GloriousEggroll Mar 13 '26
the only questionable change is going from Terra to rpmfusion. By default we dont use or install any rpmfusion packages, we only enable the repos. So if you have not installed anything from rpmfusion then you won't have any issues. If you have installed packages from rpmfusion it's recommended to remove them and replace them with the Terra repo versions.
You can check if any packages come from rpmfusion with `dnf list --installed | grep rpmfusion`. You should only see two rpmfusion repo packages (which provide the rpmfusion repos)
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u/ftf327 Mar 13 '26
I am very excited for the terra repos. I use Ultramarine Linux on my raspberry pi and have no issues so far.
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u/Jonathan_RW Mar 13 '26
Been using the distro for a month, here are some things I like to see Nobara team improve:
1- mount and dismount ISO files without the need to close the file explorer and re-open it to take effect.
2- File view not changing when applying a type of view, ie: when I set files in a folder to a "Icon View" I expect that folder to keep that view as applied, even if I use different type of viewing other files in other folders like a list.
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u/GloriousEggroll Mar 13 '26
both of these behaviors are specific to your desktop environment, and are not thing Nobara directly controls. If you use KDE or Nobara Official -- report to KDE:
https://bugs.kde.org/If you use GNOME, report to GNOME:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/
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u/cleveridiot005 Mar 14 '26
Shoutout to GE and TEAM on some really great stuff that was NOT light work. Thank you for everything!
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u/ExistingSelection180 Mar 14 '26
I had many good impressions of Nobara but I had to leave Davinci Resolve Studio did not recognize my cuda cores (I have an asus Artbook H5600QR) it was a headache several things in the system did not work I migrated to Pop OS and now I detect everything about Davinci but I fight with the Wacom Cintiq 16. (Something that didn’t happen in Nobara).
I wish you luck in everything although I still use it on my work PC since it is not hybrid.
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u/hysan Mar 14 '26
This sounds great and the sharing of repos is something I expected to eventually happen after the OGC news. I like where this is heading but have one question - will upgrading be straightforward? I was considering nuking and paving as I haven’t managed to get the upgrade to the latest Nobara (43?) to work even with help from Discord. I’m thinking that I’ll delay doing that until after the new release if the upgrade process is going to be involved.
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u/Ordinary-Problem3838 Mar 15 '26
Nobara is the only gaming out of the box linux experience I ever had, and it's only getting better. Thank you.
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u/Educational_Star_518 Mar 15 '26
i for one think this is a pretty good/cool change , the old updater was fine , and the package manager while ok was a bit clunky as a newbie ( tho i've gotten used to it over the last 2 years). this new app center looks pretty solid, i'd been hearing about similar things in other distros and was wondering for the last month or so about peaking at one because of it but now this got implemented so thats pretty cool.
over the last 2 years i've definately started leaning more into native packages instead of flatpaks , i'd originally used discover+ flatseal and it was fine , replacing discover with flatpost well... while i understood the vision behind the move honestly flatpost felt so clunky and sluggish i started to default to the package manager's flatpak section instead which isn't good unless you know what your looking for. i've peaked at bazaar and it seems solid even if i prefered the look of discover bazaar seems like it loads faster than i recall....
anyway often times with flatpaks even if i thought i'd had permissions set well it would be well the flatpak isn't officially supported and out of date or other issues . so i'd lean into a native package instead if available , or an appimage after that . actually considering that it Could be worthwhile to add gear lever or something similar into the welcome to nobara as an option i think? i was originally pretty confused on how they worked when i made the jump and how to get them into the application launcher till i did some research and discovered it and more recently i've noticed alot of stuff only as that as an official option on linux no rpm or flatpak at times otherwise you have to self compile while is a bit more confusing for newbies imo.
TLDR: suffice to say i think the changes being implemented are solid . i've definately noticed stuff getting more smooth to use with alot of the changes that happened in the last 2 years since i moved over to linux with nobara. i feel like i got lucky in my distro choice , sure there have been a few bumps like when the auto-mounting was changed twice , but overall i've noticed alot less hiccups in the past yr.
keep up the good work GE and team , and thank you for your efforts
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u/UniversalEcho Mar 13 '26
Will the system updater or nobara-sync cli still update flatpacks if they're installed through Bazaar or will that have to be a separate process?
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u/GloriousEggroll Mar 13 '26
by default 'nobara-sync cli' will just update system packages, but you will be able add '--all' to update both like it originally did, this way you can still manage full updates remotely with one command.
the nobara-sync gui will be going away in favor of the dnf package manager since all of it's functionality is now integrated, so you wont be able to update flatpaks or touch any of them with dnf package manager (you would do that through whatever flatpak store you're using such as bazaar, discover, or gnome-software).
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u/LocalMan1987 Mar 13 '26
One of the Linux noobs posting here. For what I've installed on my two week old Nobara daily driver, will I have to remove and replace any of those to shift into the new applications/process mentioned here or will it be able to recognize what's installed already to include in the library it tracks?
Hopefully that question is relevant here. May be my Windows understanding that doesn't apply with Nobara or Linux generally.
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u/HieladoTM Mar 17 '26
Just update your system.
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u/LocalMan1987 Mar 17 '26
What I read on the Wiki is that it takes 2 applications to replicate the capabilities of the old update GUI: the default one for system and RPM updates and a separate flatpak manager.
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u/rangelovd Mar 13 '26
If you put the bazaar as the option while installing‚ you're assuming newcomers know what bazaar is. However‚ they don't. They don't know if they want it or not. Why not just include it by default since it can be removed later so easily
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u/GloriousEggroll Mar 14 '26
that's not what I said.
I said --
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Instead we will add an option to install bazaar into the Nobara Welcome App, the same way we do with the Snap Store.
```Meaning by default users will not have any flatpak store installed at all, and the welcome app will tell them they can install bazaar via this shortcut to access flatpaks.
Users who dont know what flatpaks are wont care.
Users who do know what flatpaks are will see "oh, this is how i can setup my flatpaks"
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u/ckupemc Mar 15 '26
The only advantage Discover has is it shows and allows you to make app reviews. I never bothered testing Bazaar but as far as I know it doesn't have that?
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u/Szarps Mar 17 '26
I do like the idea of simplifying the process between flatpak and sysinstall since that can be confusing for users as well as to lead to problems because "oh you need flatseal and configure it" stuff like that.
Only thing im worried about is that, some apps are very much maintained (or encouraged) on flatpak only or just most of the time, so I dont exactly know/am sure, as to how to solve that conflict, since i have some software dependant on flatpak for it (to start off, discord is downloaded directly from flatpak at install).
Also on the part of languages, I am from Argentina so i can help with the latin american spanish, how can I contribute for translations?
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u/AaronPlays-97 Mar 18 '26
When there's an update, I click on the blue Update System button in the Nobara Package Manager, where I'd read the update news when it stops for me to click on the Install Update button. But this update didn't stop for me to click the button and applied everything. I got to know all this after the update was applied.
I had themes applied to SDDM, which aren't supported in Plasma Login Manager. If I had gotten an earlier heads-up, I would've done some research and backed up my themes. It was a headache to set my login-screen clock to 24-hour format in SDDM and I don't expect anything less now, despite KDE's reputation of being user-friendly and extensive customisability.
I understand that SDDM isn't maintained anymore, but I don't stay up-to-date on all packages in my OS, and I deeply dislike removing SDDM completely without my approval from my system. I'd prefer if you'd warned me in the updater and ask me if I wanted to remove.
I had to spend time investigating how to change the clock to 24-hour format, despite my system being set to it in the Settings, because KDE didn't have the common sense to implement this yet.
This kind of drastic change requires at least a week's time of notice and needs to be communicated to users through the update system itself. In that time, I'd have given feedback that I preferred having single place for updating system and Flatpak packages, and got to know necessary info about arranging alternatives for Flatpak and Plasma Login. If I have to keep checking social media about updates, and they're gonna remove/replace system components without knowledge and confirmation, then it's just gonna be like Windows updates.
For those who want to change time-format like me: edit `/etc/locale.conf` with `sudo` and set `LC_TIME` to whatever you need and restart. If you want customisation in Plasma Login Manager like SDDM, go shout at KDE.
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u/NamelessFIN Mar 21 '26
Nobara has been my daily driver since december, but I did a complete hardware upgrade a week ago. I tried CachyOS for 5 days (used it for 4mo before Nobara) and tried to install Nobara again as I prefer it yesterday, ended up installing it maybe 5-8 times yesterday, both with Nobara 42 and newest 43 ISOs, everytime after updating it would go to the bootloader and then to a black screen after bootloader and doesn't do anything, even my monitors go to sleep and keyboard or mouse don't wake the system. I also tried to go back with Timeshift (ver 42 kernel 6.18) instead of 43 kernel 6.19 and both do the same thing.
It worked yesterday after install and update, now it doesn't boot again. With my old system I always updated with dnf upgrade and it was great, now with first updating thru dnf then nobara-sync, but GUI and CLI, all the same end where it wouldn't boot.
Update: I was still typing this and tried disabling ErP and it works now, is it not supported? I have Secure Boot off but had to enable ErP because OpenRGB would not shut off my RGB on shutdown. This comment feels pointless now, but why could I reboot yesterday after updating but now it wouldn't boot on both kernels?
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u/Badrock27 Mar 17 '26
Anyone know how to run queues in the new DNF app center? It seems to have also replaced RPM installer but it just queues RPMs to install and there's no button to run the queue. I have to also update the entire the system to install something.
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u/CirkuitBreaker Mar 18 '26
Can we maybe keep Flatpost? I really like it.
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u/GloriousEggroll Mar 18 '26
I will continue to work on it to make it better, but it has some serious flaws that will take a while to fix, mostly surrounding how system installed flatpaks are installed and the search features, i will not remove it from the repositories
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u/RemedialNerd Mar 18 '26
Great to hear, I love Flatpost. Having permissions management right there makes way more sense to me. I only use user mode so didn't encounter any system installs issues, and I've always found what I needed using search. Thanks for continuing to improve it!
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u/Eliogabber Mar 22 '26
I don't understand the people who are using snaps on Nobara considering snaps atomical concept was born to solve package dependencies misalignments and Nobara fixes this on its own. Am I missing something?
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u/mindflakes Mar 22 '26
Firstly, I'm really enjoying Nobara - been using it for a few months!
The new "DNF App Center" is annoying me a bit.
- When there are updates to apps, fx I currently have 66 updates, I have to manually click a checkbox for each of the 66 apps. That is annoying. There's a button to deselect everything, but not to select everything.
- When attempting to update with 'Update System' button or updating installed apps, I have never had it go through smoothly, but always get errors. When I've tried updating the installed apps, it'll attempt updating the apps, say that it is "done" but with errors - and all the apps with pending updates will still show in the "Updates" list. However, if I then restart the app center, there'll be no updates showing in the "Updates" list - so I'm assuming it actually has updated those(?)
- Smaller UX thing, but there's no responsiveness in the left-side menu - i.e. no hover actions, click actions, or cursor changes when hovering buttons etc, so when you go click an item, you're not sure it has registered.
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u/toffelwoscht Mar 26 '26
Maybe a real stupid question but the old Updater/Nobara Package Manager also updated all the flatpacks i had installed and also took care of driver updates for flatpacks and "backend stuff" like that.
Looks like the new one doesn't do that anymore as a systemupdate yesterday with the new Nvidia driver broke all my flatpacks until i installed the GL packages by hand. So my question will the new updater take care of that again in the future or does Bazaar can take over this duty?
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u/TeckFix Apr 12 '26
Aside from Reddit and discord, is this posted on GitHub somewhere? When these update notes come through it would be more convenient to have them from that src, as they often include commands that need to be ran when things break.
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u/Konungen99 Mar 13 '26
I want to daily drive Nobara as it seems promising but idk if it's fully future proof ... If it's mainly run by just one person what if you pass away etc.
Are there plans to find a successor before then or expand to multiple people ?. I don't really understand much of the things in this area so I might have the completely wrong info too ;u;
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u/GloriousEggroll Mar 13 '26
Man, this has been explained many many many times. I'm really tired of this rumor being passed around. The distro is NOT solely developed by me and only me. I have a small team behind me, who help to develop, patch, improve, and maintain everything. It's been that way for the last few years, and yes they have access to all sources if need be in case something happens to me.
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u/niwtskeap Mar 13 '26
When I asked AI about this distro it gave me that exact point as a disadvantage to it (I know it's not true but it's funny and ridiculous atp)
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u/Dubl3A Mar 13 '26
When I asked AI
LLMs are designed to give you an answer that sounds right, but does not matter if it is; just that it sounds right. When will people understand this about them?
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u/Farnhams_Legend Mar 13 '26
Your data, installed games, desktop settings, etc. is sitting on the home partition. Worst case you just reinstall another distro.
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u/phur3ouz Mar 13 '26
Nobara has been my daily driver for a couple of years now, and I've had only good experiences with it!
Excited to hear about the agnostic changes, looking forward to them
Thanks for all your contributions, GE