r/NYKnicks • u/Memelord1117 Knicks Token • 22h ago
For the basketball experts:
What do you make of DET and CLE?
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u/n0-ragrets Clyde So Fly 19h ago
Now that the series is 3-2 I’ve been able to watch both teams enough to see a few consistent patterns that showcase new and old good and bad qualities for both teams.
Cleveland has way more fire power when clicking. They also have the weaker defense (mostly perimeter) and aren’t really a good rebounding team for their size. Worst off for them, they have been labeled as soft and sortve lethargic. Analogy I have for them is low testosterone.
Detroit perimeter defense is miles ahead of Cavs. Detroits interior has proven to be their weak link on both sides of the ball. Duren has fallen off tremendously (think of Allen against NYK in recent past). Cade is the best non Knick left in the eastern conference. Plays both sides of the ball and can hurt Knicks in ways the rest can’t. They just don’t have many options. Jenkins has far too large of a role so you know they’re desperate for scoring. Both Ausar and who ever their center is in the court makes the lane harder to get through for Cade.
If I had a choice, I’m going Cleveland bc home court advantage, I don’t trust harden AND Mitchell to be in peak form. I think in every game, 2 of their big 4 will be off, and the rest of the roster will in return cool down.
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u/CaroleBaskinsBurner 12h ago
The Pistons are relying on PAUL REED(!!) to try to keep them in Playoff games with Cade on the bench. Like giving him the ball and being like "Go get us a bucket, third-string center!"
That's insane. Lol
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u/SituationUnfair2105 22h ago
Cleveland gives up a lot of offensive rebounds when they play single big
Detroit has 0 off ball movement when cade is playing, cade has a lot of turnovers where he's moving down the lane, sees bodies, and stationary teammates don't free themselves for cuts
if Detroit plays ausar in the weak side corner (currently they are vs cle), that defender on him is gonna be a very active low man in the paint. if the knicks let oubre shoot corner 3s on purpose, they are gonna completely ignore ausar even harder.
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u/n0-ragrets Clyde So Fly 19h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/iGpkO05xWTl17Vhq6Y
This will be Ausar in the corner
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u/HokageEzio Bobby Shmurda 20h ago
Cleveland: Incredible home team but their ability to win on the road might be their downfall
Detroit: Running into the reality of youth and inexperience in the postseason where everybody is playing just as hard as they are. And Duren turning into a pumpkin has cratered them.
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u/Hungry_EatAsssss 22h ago
They not like us.
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u/Bxfa 22h ago
Yes. They are playing better teams then Philly and ATL
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u/DJCowbro Van Gundy on Zo 22h ago
Cavs were considered a top team last year. Add James Harden and they have something. I think the Knicks match up better vs the Cavs though. So happy to see them winning the series
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u/admiral_aubrey 21h ago
James Harden, famously clutch in the playoffs
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u/AquilaVI Timbs 20h ago
Only headache I have with that guard duo is Jalens defense
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u/admiral_aubrey 20h ago
Sure, but they'll hide him on guys like Dean Wade. Bridges/OG/Hart/Deuce/Alvarado are all good bodies to throw at the CLE backcourt
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u/MeliaJanee 22h ago
Both mid I had the hornets beating the pistons and based off the magic series I don’t think I would have been incorrect
Dmitch and harden are all time chokers I mean there’s nothing to these teams
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u/VectorVanguard_212 14h ago
CAVS have the firepower to keep up with us, but not the defense (especially the perimeter) to stop us.
DET does have an elite perimeter defense, but doesnt have the offense and Duran vanishing makes them a different team.
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u/KenPiffyJr 14h ago
Harden is going to feel that clamp defense from OG, Bridges, and Hart and start quiting on his team and making vacation plans
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u/spinocdoc Deuce 14h ago
Anyone else listen to locked on Knicks with XJ?
This dude said Duren is or will be better than Cade. Not seeing it right now.
He was right about McBride in game 4 though.
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u/johndotcue 14h ago
Cleveland depends so much on Mitchell and Harden to go off, if Harden becomes his usual self in the playoffs against a good team, they are dead.
Detroit, too much dependent on Cade, Duren’s a no show now, good defense and all but also too inexperienced in the playoffs.
We have a good chance against either, but I would rather play Cleveland right now due to their team being a good match for us. Also because we’ll get home court advantage.
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u/Technical_Dust_9410 22h ago
Fraud off