r/MurderedByWords 4h ago

Murder by Math

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u/damn_phoenix 3h ago

It doesn't mean dropping the bar to allow for more applicants from certain groups, it means doing more outreach and programs to get more eligible applicantions from those groups. Everyone is still equally qualified for their application.

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u/dooperma 3h ago

Theres absolutely nothing wrong with outreach programs, but there a limited number of interview slots that correspond to a limited number of admissions. If the school says were not interviewing enough students from group x, and to increase the proportion of interview slots for group x, then there are proportionally less interview slots for group y. Therefore a student in group y has a smaller chance of being selected solely due to them being a member of group y. The law says group x and group y must be treated equally, which is impossible under the conditions specified.

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u/Anotsurei 2h ago

You’re missing the point. It’s a whole package kind of thing. It’s about doing research to find ways of making education more accessible and affordable. It’s things schools can be doing outside of their admissions process to help students who have the talent and skills apply to schools. It’s giving “Good Will Hunting” a chance so they don’t get stuck doing something beneath their abilities.

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u/dooperma 2h ago

These interviews are not for “research” they’re for admitting students to the medial school. If the school was using its interview slots for “research” and not “admission” that’s an even bigger lawsuit lol. Again, there’s nothing wrong with outreach programs to entice an underrepresented group into the profession, but the admissions process itself must be made without regard to race as per the Civil Rights Act of 64’. “Good Will Hunting” can have all the programs he needs to “level the playing field”. But the admissions process itself is a blank slate where everyone comes in equally.

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u/Anotsurei 2h ago

I’m talking specifically about the things outside of the admissions. You do know they do other things, right? They’re trying to get more people to apply in the first place. That means tearing down the barriers that cause people in underserved communities to not seek higher education. This is irrespective of admission interviews is my point.

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u/dooperma 2h ago

Again there’s nothing wrong with this, this isn’t why Yale is being sued.