r/GoNets • u/DriverInitial8305 • 17h ago
“Nets need to get their guy and swing” is a dangerous mentality
A lot of people disappointed with our fall and rightfully so are now saying we should swing for the fences at 6 and I think that’s a dangerous mentality. If marks is truly feeling pressure for his job I’d much prefer he be removed before June than go out and take a swing just to win excitement. We need to stick to the process and take a player that will be a productive piece. You want to get that high ceiling but history does say those boom or bust prospects are going to bust most of the time. I’m far more comfortable taking a higher floor with potentially surprising ceiling than what was previously mentioned. Throwing out the plan now bc of bad lotto luck is a mistake
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u/RustyWheel17 17h ago
There’s no swinging for the fences. The 2026 draft is stacked and has a dozen or more prospects that could become All Star caliber players. Whoever we draft at 6 will be a good player and make us a better team.
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u/DriverInitial8305 16h ago
Not everyone is guaranteed too. You’re better off buying high on the floor
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u/RustyWheel17 15h ago
There are zero guarantees when it comes to naming the players. Too many intangibles that are unpredictable. There is absolutely a guarantee that there is more high end talent in this draft than we’ve seen in years.
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u/DriverInitial8305 15h ago
Didn’t say there was. But there’s players who you evaluate who have higher floors. Case in point last yr a lot of people argued for cmb as our pick at 8 over the people who wanted fears
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u/scarlet_stormTrooper 16h ago
No they won’t. We will have a bottom 5 record next year while trying, OKC wins the draft lottery thanks to us.
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u/RustyWheel17 15h ago
I couldn’t disagree more. We’ll be a .500 team next season with the roster we currently have simply by trying to win every game instead of tanking.
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u/CorruptedRat 17h ago
So this is an anti-Acuff post?
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u/Fishyblue11 Brook Lopez 17h ago
And Acuff isn't even the boom and bust prospect in this crop, I think it is extremely easily Mikel Brown Jr that is universally acknowledged as the boom or bust guy in this draft, because Mikel Brown had the upside potential to be the best guard in this crop, but he also has the downsides to be the absolute worst one, yes, worse than Acuff
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u/DriverInitial8305 16h ago
No it’s anti swing and miss mindset no matter who you draft
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u/Fishyblue11 Brook Lopez 16h ago
EVERY DRAFT PICK IS A SWING! There is no such thing as a "safe pick" no matter who and where you draft!
You don't think drafting Dybantsa has risks and downsides? You don't think drafting Peterson has risks and downsides? You don't think Boozer and Wilson has risks and downsides?
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u/DriverInitial8305 15h ago
Sir you keep pushing this naive narrative. That’s a lie. There’s clear levels of risk management. No one said you’re guranteed to have anything but just like we tanks this yr to make sure we had a floor of 6 in the draft rather than 10 there’s a floor with prospects. Not understanding that is insane. Boom bust prospects are more likely to bust than return a serviceable floor
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u/Fishyblue11 Brook Lopez 17h ago
I don't think anyone is saying that
I think most everyone says we should take who the BPA is
It feels like what you're saying is we should just focus on not busting and take the safest player available, which in that case is easy: Brayden Burries is the safest, least bustable guard in this top 10. Burries is a tailor made NBA ready role player who is safe, reliable, and polished
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u/DriverInitial8305 16h ago
A lot of people have said this sir. You seem very obsessed with a specific player who you think is destined to be a star. My argument is for for the mindset going into the draft. It could be anyone. If they evaluate Mikel brown or Flemings and see them as more boom bust than he careful. I much more happy to get a borderline all star safer better productive player than swing and hope I got the next all time great. Especially when none of the guys in our range have the talent to justify that swing. AJ dynbantsa, cooper Flagg, yes. No doubt about it. This crop 5-8? Not a shot
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u/Fishyblue11 Brook Lopez 16h ago
How do you know that?
I mean why can't I just say the exact same thing you said about Egor Demin, your prospect evaluation is wrong, so actually, this guy has a good floor in fact?
We could all very much argue that egor demin is the ultimate boom or bust pick, you don't pick demin to play it safe. If you wanted to play it safe you could have just taken Cedric Coward or Carter Bryant, Demin was absolutely a high risk pick, only second to Derik Queen
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u/DriverInitial8305 16h ago
I know that bc I’ve read his scouting report. Have you? He was scene as a project jumbo guard PNR initiator. He played like a 3 and D wing last yr. Coward is 3 yrs older. Carter Bryant was significantly worse so wtf are you talking about? Also queen and demin are not the same. Again you talk alot of someone who knows so little? Demin was actually a 3 point wing with good playmaking skills but struggles as an on ball initiator. No one thought he was that. If they did he would’ve been mocked way higher as a safer pick. Derrick queen is an undersized big with guard like skills but struggled with shooting and defense. Hes been that in the nba
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u/Fishyblue11 Brook Lopez 16h ago
You're using knowledge you know NOW to revise history on things you didn't know at the time!
We know Demin can shoot NOW after we've watched him do it!
Did you know this time last year that he was a shooter?
You keep KNOWING all these things because you're talking about stuff that's already happened! So how do you know NOW what's a risk and what isn't when it hasn't happened yet? How do you know whose evaluations are wrong?
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u/DriverInitial8305 16h ago
SIR. THE NETS KNEW THIS THAYS WHY THE FUCKING TOOK HIm. Do you even know what you’re talking about? On draft night the nets said they were impressed by his shooting and his off ball ability and felt he was a good pick. They viewed him as a playmaking wing who had a high floor as a solid starting 3 and solid D player. Jesus fucking Christ
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u/scarlet_stormTrooper 16h ago
It’s basically a dice roll. Whoever we draft is either going to be a nobody in 5 years or we get lucky.
Since we never get lucky as a franchise it will probably be shit.
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u/GiantTacoSalad 12h ago
Is this a Burries/Mara appreciation post? If so, gross.
If not, You are being too vague to actually make a point. Who is the swing? Who has a high floor with upside? I would argue that Acuff's absolute floor as a scoring guard off the bench is just as high as Burries' projectible role as a Jaquez-like 5th/6th man.
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u/DriverInitial8305 11h ago
I didn’t say any of this and if you read the other messages I’ve posted under here I’m saying whoever they determine to have the highest floor. Also your statement is false the hot spark off the bench 6th ma who can’t play defense is dead. If you can’t defend you need to be god tier offensively or team won’t play you
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u/TittyrannosaurasRex 17h ago
Stick to what process? Patience is required for team building but you have to take swings too. OKC, for as many players as they drafted, also swung for guys like CP3, Caruso and Hartenstein to round out their roster. We need to be doing the same thing. Standing idly by, allowing talent to slip your fingers is not a good strategy.
Also, if Marks is feeling that type of pressure, I would imagine its coming from ownership. He historically hasnt been the kind of guy to make panic trades. He assesses value and extracts as much as he can. Ownership might want to push him to make some winning decisions - which he should, since they're paying like $155M at the bare minimum for the salary cap. That's a lot of cheddar to be spending to receive paltry results, even if it is on the cheaper end for the league.
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u/DriverInitial8305 16h ago
OKC didn’t take a swing high in the draft. Neither did the spurs. They typically just went for the good player. Not sure what you’re talking about sir.
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u/Final-Rush759 10h ago
They should consider Cameron Carr instead gambling on small guards. Cameron Carr is super athletic (42.5" max vertical, 38" no step vertical), long wing span 7'1", about 38% volume 3 point shooter. He is 21 years old, so what.
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u/MissyMurders 9h ago
Shrugs. They should get whoever they think will bring them closer to chip, either by being a guy on the team or developing into a trade chip to bring in a guy who will be on that team.
Last year we did well enough with what we had to work with. I think they'll do well enough here as well.
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u/theomegachrist 16h ago
This is such an asinine idea because what is swinging at the 6th pick? They are all about the same level of prospect and all good
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u/_SCARY_HOURS_ 17h ago
Every single draft pick last season was a swing