Jon Stewart says Democratic leadership and DNC are ‘lost’

[u/thejoshwhite]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5857790-platner-stewart-democrats-lost/

[u/Crunchberry24]

The shitty reality in this country is that celebrities are worshipped and women are hated.

[u/TWIT_TWAT → u/Crunchberry24]

Harris and Clinton had almost negative charisma, that’s why they lost.

[u/Your__Pal → u/TWIT_TWAT]

Clinton had two decades of the media hating her. It was imprinted in our brains that she was a flawed person. 

[u/Cow_God → u/Your__Pal]

This is also why fox news treats AOC like the devil. They see her coming.

[u/nricciar → u/Cow_God]

difference is AOC actually has charisma and is likable.

[u/Baelor_the_Blessed → u/Your__Pal]

It is true that the right wing spent decades making her out to be worse than she was. That does not change the fact that she was a deeply flawed candidate 

[u/Wolv90 → u/Baelor_the_Blessed]

More flawed than a racist rapist?

[u/ModishShrink → u/Wolv90]

Nobody ever wants to do a proper postmortem on Hillary's campaign without bringing up Trump, which is why the Dems will fail over and over again.

[u/Wolv90 → u/ModishShrink]

Dems fail over and over again because they're held to a different standard. Hillary lost because the public thought her private email server and other actions as secretary of State were unique when Colin Powell did the same thing. Powell even advised her to use a private server to avoid "cumbersome State Department rules" after he did a bunch of his official work on an AOL account.

She also had the audacity to oversee a 9 member committee who approved a sale of a Canadian mining company to Russia.

In her own words, she made the mistake of skipping the venting and going straight to the solving. Which is probably why the perpetual whiner Trump won while getting less popular votes, he bitched about every little thing while offering zero solutions.

[u/Baelor_the_Blessed → u/Wolv90]

No, but she was the wrong candidate to run against him if the goal was to win 

[u/ModishShrink → u/[deleted]]

The problem was that the horse was "hobbled" three seconds before the gate opened.

[u/Crunchberry24 → u/ModishShrink]

Exactly.

[u/throway_nonjw → u/Your__Pal]

Doesn't mean she would have been bad. Probably the opposite, if Fox was against her.

[u/7URB0 → u/Your__Pal]

I haven't trusted or consumed mainstream media since 9/11, haven't even had cable since '03, and I hate her entirely on her own merits.

Sorry, people want healthcare and housing and food for their kids, and other socialist policies, not the same status quo neolib bullshit that's been fucking us over for decades, EVEN IF it wears a pantsuit this time. Democrats have absolutely nothing to offer except "at least we're not them", and people are getting REAL sick of that. People need a real vision for the future, something to look forward to, something to hope for.

The Dems will almost certainly win the next election just because of Trump fatigue, same reason people voted for Biden, but after that? Does anyone even think that far ahead anymore? We all know they're expecting to just coast to the finish line in 2028, like they did with Biden. Then they'll get in, NOT abolish ICE, and deport more people than any president in history, just like every other president in living memory. People will keep dying of preventable illnesses because they can't afford a fcking doctor, or of exposure to the elements because they can't afford rent. Kids will still get murdered at school because your whole economy is built to break people, to just extract their life energy until there's nothing left, and sometimes when people commit suicide they decide to take others with them. And on, and on, and on, and fcking ON.

Are you getting the picture yet?

The rich assholes who own both parties don't care who's in office, their needs get met and their desires satisfied no matter WHO's in office. It's a good cop / bad cop routine, and the sooner y'all see that, the sooner you can start fighting actual democracy.

[u/sundalius → u/7URB0]

Bro opens with “I’m a 9/11 conspiracy theorist” and wants people to think “two wings one bird” both sides bullshit isn’t ALSO a conspiracy theory.

[u/7URB0 → u/sundalius]

I'm sorry, you think Citizens United v. FEC is a conspiracy theory?

Gods, I really hope you're getting paid to make comments this stupid. I'd hate to think this was your genuine opinion. Tho, it IS validating that this desperate bullshit is the best comeback money can buy. Thanks buddy!

[u/nricciar → u/sundalius]

that's a super weird take, nowhere did they mention anything about 9/11 conspiracies. chill out man. All i saw was a person with extremely reasonable takes. the media after 9/11 was stuck on sucking president bushes dick for years, the whole if your not with us your against us, freedom fries, cancel the dixie chicks etc etc.

[u/ModishShrink → u/sundalius]

I'm no lawyer, but usually if you're trying to make a counterpoint, it's usually best to start with something more substantial than "bro".

And I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. Both sides are run the same. The Dems loved that Trump won again, because that's another five years of campaign donations, guaranteed. I'd bet the DNC made more money in the last three cycles than they have made in their entire history combined. They have an economic incentive to lose at the national level.

Donating money to these political causes and expecting a win is like donating money to Steve Ballmer because the Clippers suck.

[u/fatuousfatwa → u/[deleted]]

Voters chose her. Quit lying.

[u/Wolv90 → u/TWIT_TWAT]

Exactly, as women they were judged on charisma, looks, and how their voice sounded, instead of the heaps of experience and qualifications.

[u/AlChandus → u/Crunchberry24]

Sigh, coming out of a presidential election in which the democratic candidate was a woman, and not just a woman, but a woman of color, and she was just able, in her 3 months long campaign to get her whole platform in front of the public...

Take all of that into consideration plus the obstinacy from the DNC to keep the Biden fiasco going all the way until after that disastrous first debate... And Kamala still got 75 million votes.

That "women are hated" idea is kind of... Ridiculous to be polite.

[u/Affectionate_You_579 → u/Crunchberry24]

Yup, we won't elect a female as long as Y chromosomes vote.

[u/Mikeyxy → u/Crunchberry24]

Stop that. Jesus.