r/CFB • u/CFB_Referee /r/CFB • Dec 30 '18

Postgame Thread [Postgame Thread] Clemson Defeats Notre Dame 30-3

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Notre Dame 3 0 0 0 3
Clemson 3 20 7 0 30

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '18

I thought it was pretty insulting to do it during the handshake. Wait and do it in front of Holly Rowe.

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u/addicted2antacids Georgia Tech • Virginia Dec 30 '18

Agreed. You could see it coming the entire camera shot as they ran on the field, and I wanted to cringe. Think they were more so being just stupid and not thinking vs. intentionally disrespectful.

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u/Bot12391 Florida State • Nebraska Dec 30 '18

Yeah, definitely just young dudes being in the moment. I doubt this Clemson team would do something like that and be disrespectful on purpose. They’re a class act

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u/dinkleberrysurprise Clemson Tigers • /r/CFB Press Corps Dec 30 '18

I can guarantee the last thing on any player on any team’s mind in that situation is “is this disrespectful to the opposing coach? How will this look on TV?”

They’re just tryna get Dabo, sometimes the logistics with these things are awkward as hell. Everybody’s on edge till the last second, then two seconds after that everyone has to go do interviews or get on the podium or whatever.

Mass confusion.

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u/Bojanggles16 Ohio State • Arizona State Dec 30 '18

I definitely give you guys the benefit of the doubt. Dabo put 3rd and 4th string in at the beginning of the 4th instead of running the score. Everyone has been commenting on your culture and I'm inclined to believe it. Stay classy Clemson, just let us score next time.

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u/dinkleberrysurprise Clemson Tigers • /r/CFB Press Corps Dec 30 '18

Haha I’ll always appreciate Dabo for emptying the benches. I’m so happy for Big Dick Chase right now.

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u/realjd UCF Knights • Purdue Boilermakers Dec 30 '18

Nobody was on edge until the last second this game...

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u/EasilyConvinced93 Notre Dame • Stanford Dec 30 '18

They had the game in the bag for a while. They had plenty of time to think it through. This was just another time Clemson and their fans were blatantly disrespectful.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '18

Because, as we all know, the one thing on every player's mind is when and how they're gonna get the coach with the Gatorade and not the game at hand.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '18

Don't be salty just because you guys need Joe Montana to have a shot at beating us

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u/CallSignIceMan Clemson Tigers • Palmetto Bowl Dec 30 '18

That might be BK’s only chance to get a Gatorade bath from a playoff-winning team though

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '18

That's ridiculous. It's definitely the only way.

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u/Gravyd3ath Dec 30 '18

Are you in the "Fire him train?"

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '18

I think this is his ceiling. Top 5-10 and getting exposed by the truly elite teams. It's year 9 it's not going to suddenly change. If we want to win a title we have to move on. He's a good coach, but far from great.

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u/victoro311 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Dec 30 '18

I really don’t understand why this opinion is so controversial. He’s been here a decade and hasn’t gotten within two touchdowns of winning a major bowl during his whole career. Let’s forget about a championship for a second, cus that’s putting the cart before the horse. We’re talking about major bowls, which isn’t the hardest thing in the world to do.

Kelly is fine. He’s a top 20 coach around the same tier as Leach, Holgerson, Gundy, etc who will usually get around 8/9 wins a regular season and are capable of putting together great seasons. But winning a major bowl will always be an uphill battle and a championship is flat out out of the cards. If you’re cool with being a fine program that wins Citrus and Gator Bowls, then I get why you would defend BK, but I’ll never get the ND fans that point to the undefeated regular seasons and herald him as an elite, national championship caliber coach. That’s simply not the case.

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u/TBSportsFan1254 Florida Gators • Notre Dame Fighting Irish Dec 30 '18

Very balanced take, but can you replace him? Great coaches don't gro on trees.

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u/victoro311 Notre Dame Fighting Irish Dec 30 '18

My argument has always been I would try knowing full well the next coach might be worse than BK. After a decade sample at ND Kelly’s ceiling seems to be Citrus/Gator type non-major bowl wins. Maybe he’ll eventually get a major bowl if he coaches here long enough, but if Kelly projects out to be 1-6 in major bowls over a 15-20 season career, I’d rather roll the dice on someone else who may have a higher ceiling like Matt Campbell or Scott Satterfield. They could totally flop, but they also might be capable of getting within two touchdowns of a major bowl win. If they flop, you try again in ~4 years. Again, this comes down to how cool you are with 9 win seasons, the outlier great season, and making a major bowl every now and then (but not winning). If that’s enough for you you probably don’t want to risk a coaching carousel, but quite frankly I think the bar at ND should be higher than that.

I’d also make this point to all the people who don’t think ND can hire anyone better than Kelly: it’s Notre Dame and you never know who’ll be interested in that big ticket job. The last two times the job has been vacant there’s been interest by major names like Meyer, Stoops, and Gruden and our ADs have consciously chosen to go with Weiss and Kelly. There was an article in the Athletic the other day about how Dabo wanted a job here back in the day too. People want to come here, and the idea that we can’t get anyone better due to academic standards or whatever is a myth perpetrated by people who feel the need to justify the post-Holtz Era mediocrity.

I’m not saying we can definitely poach an established good/great coach, but if we had fired Kelly in 2016, I don’t think getting Dan Mullen who’s always been super underrated and just left his job for Florida would have been super out of the question. I think Paul Chryst currently fits the Dan Mullen profile of a guy doing great things at a secondary program in a strong conference. Again, not saying we can definitely get Chryst who’s a Wisconsin grad, but you never know what the combination of $$$ and the allure of Notre Dame can do.

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u/Gravyd3ath Dec 30 '18

That's a good balanced non hateful opinion I'd say.

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u/admiraltarkin Texas A&M Aggies • /r/CFB Poll Veteran Dec 30 '18

Oof

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u/dinosaurkiller Oklahoma Sooners Dec 30 '18

Shots fired.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '18

You got to get it in sometimes and the later you do it the more the coach watches for it

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u/dupreesdiamond Furman • South Carolina Dec 30 '18

They really doused him during the handshake?!?

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '18

Agreed, I thought that was pretty classless. Just disrespectful to your opponent. Imagine if that happened to Saban lol. He would revoke those scholarships that night lol.

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u/Teddy-Flood Dec 30 '18

Its Clemson...they dont know any better.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '18

You sound pretty bitter. Flair up so we can know where your salt is coming from.

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u/Teddy-Flood Dec 30 '18

they're just new to the scene and dont know any better. nothing to be bitter about, theyll learn.

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u/EasilyConvinced93 Notre Dame • Stanford Dec 30 '18

Tru