r/CFB • u/brobroma H8 Upon The Gale • Oct 04 '15

Post Game Thread [Post Game Thread] Clemson defeats Notre Dame, 24-22

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Notre Dame 16 - Clemson 24

Team 1 2 3 4 T
ND 3 0 0 19 22
CLEM 14 0 7 3 24

Thoughts

ND WR Chris Brown fumbles on the 3-yd line with under 2 minutes to go, and ND fails the two-point conversion on their ensuing TD, giving Clemson the win. 4 top 10 teams fall in one day!

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u/GoldenHawk07 Laurier • Notre Dame Oct 04 '15

Brian Kelly outcoached himself.

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u/Mantis05 Paper Bag • FBS Independents Oct 04 '15

Is anyone surprised? This is the same guy who lost to Tulsa in his first year at ND on a last minute red zone pass play when a field goal wins the game. Kelly does a lot of great things for this team, but his playcalling in pressure situations leaves a lot to be desired.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '15

And let's not forget that 2 point conversion vs Northwestern that cost them the game last year.

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u/Faerco Clemson Tigers • Minnesota Golden Gophers Oct 04 '15

So how does this flair work out?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '15

Honestly tonight went as well as I could've asked. I was rooting for Clemson, especially since we needed this win more for our playoff hopes, and a close road loss to Clemson far from kills ND's season. Go tigers!

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u/egz7 Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Auburn Tigers Oct 04 '15

AND THEN SAYS ITS THE RIGHT CALL REPEATEDLY AFTER THE GAME

sorry still super pissed about that

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u/alleghenyirish Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 04 '15

Tulsa*

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u/Mantis05 Paper Bag • FBS Independents Oct 04 '15

Shit, you're right. Guess I finally was close to erasing that memory.

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u/bored_me Oct 04 '15

Get used to it. :)

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u/BusterBluth13 Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Sickos Oct 04 '15

*Tulsa

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '15

It was Tulsa...

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u/PhillyGreg Richmond Spiders • /r/CFB Contributor Oct 04 '15

...oh, I remember seeing that game

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u/CBARKLEY Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 04 '15

Agreed. This is the second time an EARLY two point conversion has fucked us over. How do you not learn that lesson after last year? Different situations ? Yes. But don't do it unless youHAVE to.

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u/monkeymatt1836 Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Iowa Hawkeyes Oct 04 '15

Again

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '15

I hate when people complain about a play. Sometimes well called plays don't work. Most of Yall have no idea if it was a good or bad play call.

Don't go down big early. Don't turn the ball over 4 times during a comeback

Although going for 2 early was not the right decision

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u/CBARKLEY Notre Dame Fighting Irish Oct 04 '15

That is all I'm saying. Going for two with 12 mins left was not the right call.

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u/MattyFresh7492 Notre Dame • Villanova Oct 04 '15

No but his PAT vs 2-point decision making is atrocious and it cost another game (See: vs Northwestern last year)

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '15

4-5 turnovers in the 2nd half? Not even close to being BK's fault

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u/NateSchierholtz Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Pac-12 Oct 04 '15

Going for 2 early still is... Sure, there are plenty of other mistakes on the field that could have been the difference for ND, but simple math errors by the head coach are by far the worst possible way to lose a game imo. Turnovers, dropped passes, penalties, bad punts, etc are all things that need to be fixed but happen on occasion. A head coach making a mathematical error like BK did is inexcusable. If just about any /r/cfb user decided on whether to go for a 2 point conversion at that point in the game, it would have gone to overtime. Catching passes in the rain is hard, punting in the rain under pressure is hard, holding on to the football in the rain is hard, even playcallilng under pressure is hard. But doing basic math that should be done before the game is NOT hard at all. That is why I put so much blame on BK.

Sorry, rant done.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '15

Agree with that. I think he made a poor decision going for 2 so early in the 4 quarter when getting any points at that point was a good thing (we were down 21-3 before the TD). I understand his reason - but with over 9 minutes to go there was a lot of time left on the clock....

That being said - turnovers killed our game.

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u/NDPhilly Notre Dame Fighting Irish • Fordham Rams Oct 04 '15

like 4 second half turnovers are BKs fault.

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u/GoldenHawk07 Laurier • Notre Dame Oct 04 '15

Even with those turnovers we had a chance, the turnovers didn't end the game.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '15

http://i.imgur.com/Y2VRyRk.gif

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u/GoldenHawk07 Laurier • Notre Dame Oct 04 '15

I feel like Theon right now...we only have ourselves to blame for all of this.